In the same way that the stimulate package/bank bailouts extended and made worse the 2008 economic downturn, and the 'New Deal' extended and made worse the grate depredation. this will do the same, totally unnecessarily.
This is just terrible
Mate, it was easing off of the relief measure that made the great depression worse.
I think anyone seeking to analyse this on a day by day basis is going to end up driving themselves bonkers and also highly likely miss any big picture.
See, well, any recent long term political argument within the UK.
True but that won't stop most of us on PB from analysing everything on a second to second basis. 😊
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We have Google Classroom and Google Meet. It’s pretty easy to use and you can run a school like a school and classes like classes. Have they been caught out or is it a choice to go via email?
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We are having a trial run this week with only Y7&8 coming into school while we teach the rest electronically. My expectation is that it will work for the conscientious, but there will be a surprising number of pupils experiencing problems with their Wi-fi...
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We have Google Classroom and Google Meet. It’s pretty easy to use and you can run a school like a school and classes like classes. Have they been caught out or is it a choice to go via email?
I haven’t been in for two days because I’ve been ill, ironically. But I think they had safeguarding concerns over video interactions. Our SLT have always been extremely conservatively minded about such things, and they seemed to want to avoid anything they couldn’t tightly control.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
In Germany it seems that almost all people go by the simplified version of the Asronomical Seasons starting on the 21sts, like you do.
Australian outside of the tropical zones go by the Meteorological Seasons starting in the 1sts. I prefer the Meteorological Seasons simply because it means my birthday is in summer, rather than spring.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Across the whole country at once. Wouldn't completely rule out Friday night tbh
I don’t see why the restrictions should apply as rigidly to the sparsely populated rural areas of the country as they do to the overpopulated cities. The latter are surely the dirty bomb
In the same way that the stimulate package/bank bailouts extended and made worse the 2008 economic downturn, and the 'New Deal' extended and made worse the grate depredation. this will do the same, totally unnecessarily.
This is just terrible
Mate, it was easing off of the relief measure that made the great depression worse.
incorrect, the US downturn was well on its way to being recovering before the US government intervened.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
I think either that or Monday night, that’s the night where most people are at home in a normal week (I know, I know). They announced the last upgrade on a Monday night for maximum exposure so am expecting the same again. Get the children to school Monday morning, leak the lockdown. Bring down the hammer at 1700hrs.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We have Google Classroom and Google Meet. It’s pretty easy to use and you can run a school like a school and classes like classes. Have they been caught out or is it a choice to go via email?
I haven’t been in for two days because I’ve been ill, ironically. But I think they had safeguarding concerns over video interactions. Our SLT have always been extremely conservatively minded about such things, and they seemed to want to avoid anything they couldn’t tightly control.
They’re setting up to record Google Meet sessions. I find it very strange that we are seen as fine when we are in a classroom but not online but it’s management’s call. My biggest fear is screwing up technically, so I end up wasting my time talking away with the microphone turned off.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Across the whole country at once. Wouldn't completely rule out Friday night tbh
I don’t see why the restrictions should apply as rigidly to the sparsely populated rural areas of the country as they do to the overpopulated cities. The latter are surely the dirty bomb
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
Channel 4 News pretty blunt. Enforced social distancing is coming. Soon. Maybe a week?
Weekend
Is that a hunch or informed speculation?
I mean they've already said in yesterday's press conference that the isolation advice for over 70s would be by the end of the week.
I posted downthread where that news came from - it tallies with something else I was told at weekend
Will going outside for exercise still be allowed?
Hancock last night was actively encouraging exercise (when careful distance is kept) and other countries seem to allow it - would be a large and odd step to basically institute house arrest, not least as lots of essential activities have to continue anyway
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We have Google Classroom and Google Meet. It’s pretty easy to use and you can run a school like a school and classes like classes. Have they been caught out or is it a choice to go via email?
I haven’t been in for two days because I’ve been ill, ironically. But I think they had safeguarding concerns over video interactions. Our SLT have always been extremely conservatively minded about such things, and they seemed to want to avoid anything they couldn’t tightly control.
They’re setting up to record Google Meet sessions. I find it very strange that we are seen as fine when we are in a classroom but not online but it’s management’s call. My biggest fear is screwing up technically, so I end up wasting my time talking away with the microphone turned off.
I didn’t know you could do that. It might make a difference. If I’m well enough to go in tomorrow I will ask about it.
Edit - I think their concern was what students might (or, more accurately, might not) be wearing.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Lockdown doesn't mean people can't go to the shops, and panic buying isn't likely to get any better in the immediate aftermath of a tightening of restrictions.
Friend of mine is a school governor and they think the local ones are all going to have to shut this week. They're really struggling not just with absent students disrupting planning but more importantly with staffing. Now that sounds like the voice of Captain Obvious speaking but the precise cause is less intuitive!
Allowing more generous teacher-student ratios doesn't solve the problem because it isn't just teaching staff. The critical shortage that will force closure for them is actually canteen staff. Packed lunches are largely a thing of the past and they simply can't make the food.
Most of this is nonsense - the reason the canals in Venice are not transparent is silt in the water. Not pollution. No Gondoliers punting about - no silt stirred up
Any pollution is probably still there.
It is a bit like the steam from power station cooling towers - the number of environmentalists who think that this is some toxic chemical is quite remarkable.
That chemical has probably killed more people on any given day than any other.
True. I was very proud when the boiler I built passed a rigorous safety test ( 300% of working pressure) by the Society of Model And Experimental Engineers boiler tester. He died a couple of weeks later - think he was 93.
In the same way that the stimulate package/bank bailouts extended and made worse the 2008 economic downturn, and the 'New Deal' extended and made worse the grate depredation. this will do the same, totally unnecessarily.
This is just terrible
Mate, it was easing off of the relief measure that made the great depression worse.
incorrect, the US downturn was well on its way to being recovering before the US government intervened.
This is an exciting definition of recovery which consists of gdp falling every year until the first New Deal was enacted.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
Those parents will stay have to pay the fees - yes? Otherwise, private schools are going to hit financial problems very soon.
If they are moving to remote learning, presumably yes.
Our remote learning is all setup and ready to go now. Are you on the same sort of timeline?
Not really, tbh. It is not looking ready to go. Most of it would I think be emailing out resources at selected moments.
We have Google Classroom and Google Meet. It’s pretty easy to use and you can run a school like a school and classes like classes. Have they been caught out or is it a choice to go via email?
I haven’t been in for two days because I’ve been ill, ironically. But I think they had safeguarding concerns over video interactions. Our SLT have always been extremely conservatively minded about such things, and they seemed to want to avoid anything they couldn’t tightly control.
They’re setting up to record Google Meet sessions. I find it very strange that we are seen as fine when we are in a classroom but not online but it’s management’s call. My biggest fear is screwing up technically, so I end up wasting my time talking away with the microphone turned off.
I didn’t know you could do that. It might make a difference. If I’m well enough to go in tomorrow I will ask about it.
Edit - I think their concern was what students might (or, more accurately, might not) be wearing.
Just repeating what I was told about the recording, I’m not sure they’ve figured it all out yet, though. I see the problem with student attire, not something we could police as easily.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
One thing that is long overdue is putting all homework online, all class materials online and all the text books online. All homework should be submittable online as well.
The Free School round the corner manages to do this - standard software and not even expensive.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
Last week in my church the, the dioceses had invoked the 1542 Sacrament act, so that communion was given in just one kind (bread) and not wine so there was no need to use a shared chalices.
It felt quite reassuring so how to know that this had been foreseen almost half a millennium ago.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Across the whole country at once. Wouldn't completely rule out Friday night tbh
I don’t see why the restrictions should apply as rigidly to the sparsely populated rural areas of the country as they do to the overpopulated cities. The latter are surely the dirty bomb
I really hope we don’t have to resort to enforced lockdown though I fear it is coming.
Judging by the way my local town has responded (the cafes and local Spoons were jammed packed apparently this afternoon) - Yep.
I really despair.
Why are so many people total fuckwits?
I walked past a cafe today full of people....
The chemist was heaving too....I am on the lookout for a thermometer
I went in one today, stayed at least 4 meters away from the lady buying Halls at the counter with the slight cough... didn't touch anything, opened the door pusher with my elbow.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
One thing that is long overdue is putting all homework online, all class materials online and all the text books online. All homework should be submittable online as well.
The Free School round the corner manages to do this - standard software and not even expensive.
I do most of that already. Marking work submitted electronically is probably the weakest link in the chain.
What’s the point of refuelling if you can’t drive anywhere?
You can't travel to work ?! That's a de facto almost 100% economic shutdown.
This is France.
I think "the police will be monitoring compliance" is code for "please consider your bribe level very carefully".
Our workplace is managing things on an ad hoc basis - being sensible etc. We all travel in by car, currently away from the office myself due to being near some known cases Friday. I'd hope Boris can let SMEs police themselves.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
Welcome.
I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
One thing that is long overdue is putting all homework online, all class materials online and all the text books online. All homework should be submittable online as well.
The Free School round the corner manages to do this - standard software and not even expensive.
I do most of that already. Marking work submitted electronically is probably the weakest link in the chain.
Getting rid of the "lost homework followed by the bad phone photo of from a classmate" is worth 1p in income tax, as far as I am concerned.
That and not seeing an 11 year old bent like one of the seven dwarfs by a backpack of text books...
I really hope we don’t have to resort to enforced lockdown though I fear it is coming.
Judging by the way my local town has responded (the cafes and local Spoons were jammed packed apparently this afternoon) - Yep.
I really despair.
Why are so many people total fuckwits?
I walked past a cafe today full of people....
The chemist was heaving too....I am on the lookout for a thermometer
I went in one today, stayed at least 4 meters away from the lady buying Halls at the counter with the slight cough... didn't touch anything, opened the door pusher with my elbow.
I haven't been to the pub since last Thursday...5 nights without going to the pub....the last time this happened to me I must have been 16 and studying for my O'Levels.....
On the contrary! I am making a valid and important point about the politics of this. It's one of the best points I've ever made and it's timely. It simply has to be made in response to the "let's all get behind Boris" guff.
Like this -
Run up to the Global Financial Crisis. Tories ostensibly relaxed about the public finances. Not arguing for less spending or higher taxes. The opposite in fact on taxes. Neither arguing for tighter regulation of the City. Again, the opposite if anything.
Simply not true. I refer you to Peter Lilly - who at the time was Shadow Chancellor - arguing vehemently against Browns plans to reduce regulation and oversight by the Bank of England.
"With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority--the "super-SIB"--it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse."
"The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day."
This was only one of many repeated warnings by the Shadow Chancellor about Brown's plans.
Brown was warned what would happen and he ignored the warnings.
Is there an easily accessible list of how Bernie did 4 years ago in these States? I'm guessing Sanders will do worse tonight than he did then, consistent with the rest of the States so far.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Lockdown doesn't mean people can't go to the shops, and panic buying isn't likely to get any better in the immediate aftermath of a tightening of restrictions.
You could announce people have a set 3 hour segment for their shopping, depending on your surname. Some photo ID. A-F, 8am until 11am. Limits on the number of any particular items you can buy. Stores restock basics like loo rolls at the start of each 3 hour session.
It will still be chaotic, but not quite the absolute bedlam of everyone waiting for the store to open...
What’s the point of refuelling if you can’t drive anywhere?
You can't travel to work ?! That's a de facto almost 100% economic shutdown.
This is France.
I think "the police will be monitoring compliance" is code for "please consider your bribe level very carefully".
Our workplace is managing things on an ad hoc basis - being sensible etc. We all travel in by car, currently away from the office myself due to being near some known cases Friday. I'd hope Boris can let SMEs police themselves.
I got sent home at lunch time...those of us who work in the public sector who have been sent to work from home...I think it's probably some kind of test run for universal income....
What are the chances of Bernie pulling out tonight?
There's a scenario - not at all likely but possible - where he runs the table today. Old voters stay home, figuring it's in the bag, young folks turn out in droves.
Not expecting this but putting it down so I seem like a genius if it does.
In the same way that the stimulate package/bank bailouts extended and made worse the 2008 economic downturn, and the 'New Deal' extended and made worse the grate depredation. this will do the same, totally unnecessarily.
This is just terrible
Mate, it was easing off of the relief measure that made the great depression worse.
incorrect, the US downturn was well on its way to being recovering before the US government intervened.
This is an exciting definition of recovery which consists of gdp falling every year until the first New Deal was enacted.
I perhaps I was intersperses, I was referring to ALL US Federal government action, including tariffs and extra spending, which started a log time before the official 'new deal' which was IMO just and extension and expansion of what the US government had been doing for a few years.
Soon after the 'stock market crash' the economy was recovering and unemployment falling, from 9% down to 6% then the big interventions came and unemployment rose to over 10% and stayed there for 10 years.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Is there an easily accessible list of how Bernie did 4 years ago in these States? I'm guessing Sanders will do worse tonight than he did then, consistent with the rest of the States so far.
The Municipal Police have put 342 fines in Madrid in the last 24 hours for breach of the traffic restrictions of the state of alarm. They all exceed 600 euros. The most fined districts have been Puente de Vallecas, Centro and Tetuán. There are nine people arrested. In the Basque Country, the Ertzaintza and local police have reported 70 breaches for the same reason.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
Mine is also partly a boarding school, the overseas students in particular are desperately trying go get back home (where it’s safe). Absences are doubling day by day from day students as well. You can’t teach half in and half out, the lack of decision making in government has made the situation chaotic and intolerable.
(finally a good time for my first post - apologies if I do something stupid with it)
I also teach at a boarding school. They were due to break up for Easter at the end of the week, but a large proportion of the foreign boarding students either left at the weekend, or were making plans to leave over the next two days. The school have decided to shut from tomorrow afternoon. We have contingency plans in place for the students who are either not able to go home early, or indeed are not currently able to travel due to any flight restrictions that might be put in place.
It's been quite a strange atmosphere over the last couple of days - lots of people making nervous jokes about anyone who coughs in a classroom, and lots of students worried about relatives in other countries. I'm sure the same atmosphere is being reflected in classrooms throughout the UK, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools decide to effectively close for Easter early at the end of the week. If they don't, I imagine a lot of students just won't be going into school for the rest of term.
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I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
I don't think there is anything else particularly special the school is having to do - it's more that they were caught on the hop slightly by the extreme speed at which the government advice changed over the last couple of days. We seemed to go from 'let the kids catch the virus and build up immunity' to 'the whole country's about to be locked down' without anything in-between, and I imagine it's been a very difficult time for the SMT of my school, and lots of others like it.
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
One thing that is long overdue is putting all homework online, all class materials online and all the text books online. All homework should be submittable online as well.
The Free School round the corner manages to do this - standard software and not even expensive.
Luckily the most recent editions of pretty much all maths textbooks now include online editions. It's becoming quite standard for my A level students to use iPads in class with all the electronic editions of the textbooks, rather than cart around lots of paper copies. We don't use one textbook for GCSE, though, so we'll have to be more hands-on in putting that material online.
On the contrary! I am making a valid and important point about the politics of this. It's one of the best points I've ever made and it's timely. It simply has to be made in response to the "let's all get behind Boris" guff.
Like this -
Run up to the Global Financial Crisis. Tories ostensibly relaxed about the public finances. Not arguing for less spending or higher taxes. The opposite in fact on taxes. Neither arguing for tighter regulation of the City. Again, the opposite if anything.
Simply not true. I refer you to Peter Lilly - who at the time was Shadow Chancellor - arguing vehemently against Browns plans to reduce regulation and oversight by the Bank of England.
"With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority--the "super-SIB"--it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse."
"The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day."
This was only one of many repeated warnings by the Shadow Chancellor about Brown's plans.
Brown was warned what would happen and he ignored the warnings.
Was George Osborne as Shadow Chancellor coming out with such warnings in 2006 and 2007?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
On the contrary! I am making a valid and important point about the politics of this. It's one of the best points I've ever made and it's timely. It simply has to be made in response to the "let's all get behind Boris" guff.
Like this -
Run up to the Global Financial Crisis. Tories ostensibly relaxed about the public finances. Not arguing for less spending or higher taxes. The opposite in fact on taxes. Neither arguing for tighter regulation of the City. Again, the opposite if anything.
Simply not true. I refer you to Peter Lilly - who at the time was Shadow Chancellor - arguing vehemently against Browns plans to reduce regulation and oversight by the Bank of England.
"With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority--the "super-SIB"--it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse."
"The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day."
This was only one of many repeated warnings by the Shadow Chancellor about Brown's plans.
Brown was warned what would happen and he ignored the warnings.
Was George Osborne as Shadow Chancellor coming out with such warnings in 2006 and 2007?
It was far too late by then. The damage was done. By Brown.
Just been talking to my mate who got laid off today and got his view on the announcements. Bearing in mind he is obviously worried and upset however I suspect his sentiments are being echo'd up and down the country.
His view is "yeah its those that have stuff being bailed out again, the boss is going to be ok and they will help him keep it in its minimal state and make sure he doesn't need to pay his mortgage. Those of us hoping the money lasts till the end of the month are screwed" (sanitised for sensitive ears)
What are the chances of Bernie pulling out tonight?
There's a scenario - not at all likely but possible - where he runs the table today. Old voters stay home, figuring it's in the bag, young folks turn out in droves.
Not expecting this but putting it down so I seem like a genius if it does.
Sanders can't even hold mass rallies at the moment, he's completely done for in every way.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
I think pouring it directly down your windpipe could do it actually, I mean you'd likely kill the virus..
There are some crazy, crazy anti-vaxers types who literally do this. Some even dose their children.....
My mate had a good suggestion earlier. When (fingers crossed) we have a virus vaccine, anyone who is anti-vaxxer will be excluded from the programme and allowed to take their risk.*
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
To avoid transmission via bank notes.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
Not sure that I see the merit of it , but it was suggested that virus transmission was more likely via notes and coins.
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I suspect you are right. For the sake of an extra week it makes sense to end the term early. Any particular special actions apart from as you say if people can't actually go home?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season
In Germany it seems that almost all people go by the simplified version of the Asronomical Seasons starting on the 21sts, like you do.
Australian outside of the tropical zones go by the Meteorological Seasons starting in the 1sts. I prefer the Meteorological Seasons simply because it means my birthday is in summer, rather than spring.
Went very big on him.
Hoping that pays off tonight.
That's a de facto almost 100% economic shutdown.
I take it you have a vested interest?
Luckily we've been moving into more and more electronic work setting since the start of the year - it's quite common in my subject to use online homework sites regularly, particularly with the GCSE students. The start of next term is going to be when we may face issues if everything is still locked down.
Surely even the ERG would see it is madness to try and No Deal in the middle of this once in a hundred years shitstorm?
Tell me I am not deluded.
Edit - I think their concern was what students might (or, more accurately, might not) be wearing.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1239942521993736192
Friend of mine is a school governor and they think the local ones are all going to have to shut this week. They're really struggling not just with absent students disrupting planning but more importantly with staffing. Now that sounds like the voice of Captain Obvious speaking but the precise cause is less intuitive!
Allowing more generous teacher-student ratios doesn't solve the problem because it isn't just teaching staff. The critical shortage that will force closure for them is actually canteen staff. Packed lunches are largely a thing of the past and they simply can't make the food.
The Free School round the corner manages to do this - standard software and not even expensive.
Why are so many people total fuckwits?
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
He seemed to be indicating we were going to drag ourselves to the weekend yesterday. I could do with a couple of days to sort things at work...
The chemist was heaving too....I am on the lookout for a thermometer
It felt quite reassuring so how to know that this had been foreseen almost half a millennium ago.
I think "the police will be monitoring compliance" is code for "please consider your bribe level very carefully".
Not really, no. I live inside the M25
More like decidedly odd
What time do we get the Florida exit poll?
That and not seeing an 11 year old bent like one of the seven dwarfs by a backpack of text books...
"With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority--the "super-SIB"--it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse."
"The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day."
This was only one of many repeated warnings by the Shadow Chancellor about Brown's plans.
Brown was warned what would happen and he ignored the warnings.
It will still be chaotic, but not quite the absolute bedlam of everyone waiting for the store to open...
Not expecting this but putting it down so I seem like a genius if it does.
Soon after the 'stock market crash' the economy was recovering and unemployment falling, from 9% down to 6% then the big interventions came and unemployment rose to over 10% and stayed there for 10 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgyQsIGLt_w
His view is "yeah its those that have stuff being bailed out again, the boss is going to be ok and they will help him keep it in its minimal state and make sure he doesn't need to pay his mortgage. Those of us hoping the money lasts till the end of the month are screwed" (sanitised for sensitive ears)
* they are not allowed to change their minds.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.