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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Biden goes into tonight’s primaries as an 88% chance on Betfair for the nomination

After his sensational change of fortune just ten days ago ex-VP, 77-year old Joe Biden heads into tonight’s round of primaries. The one that will be most watched is Michigan where Bernie Sanders pulled off a sensational victory of Clinton at WH2016. The polling, this time, is heavily for Biden. Michigan will be a key target for the Dems in Novermber.

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    Can it be Joe 90?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    According to Wiki (I know, I know) on published data the UK has the fourth (third on a list which excludes China) highest number of tests behind S Korea and Italy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing

    Not all the data is completely up to date, and some countries are notably absent - eg Germany, Spain - but so far, we seem to be doing pretty well...
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    FPT

    DHSC just updated its breakdown of cases by local authority, which now shows the number of cases in each area as of 9am this morning. Five new cases were detected in Kensington and Chelsea, one of the UK’s wealthiest areas, bringing the total in the borough to 13.

    The area with the most cases overall remains Hertfordshire, with three new cases bringing the total in the county to 16.

    Skiers...Luton Airport...

    So not Remainers but pleb Leavers who think an M&S meal is a Michelin starred experience.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,941
    This market’s still under-round.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Any links to cases by area ?
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    FPT

    DHSC just updated its breakdown of cases by local authority, which now shows the number of cases in each area as of 9am this morning. Five new cases were detected in Kensington and Chelsea, one of the UK’s wealthiest areas, bringing the total in the borough to 13.

    The area with the most cases overall remains Hertfordshire, with three new cases bringing the total in the county to 16.

    Skiers...Luton Airport...

    Notable growth in Southwark, 1->3->5->8 cases.

    K&C and Hertfordshire you've singled out.

    Hampshire now up to 10, from 2, 3 days ago.
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    YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited March 2020
    Also, on self-isolation after a skiing or any other kind of holiday, is it that easy?

    Suppose Our Man into Tyrol manages to return to Barnes.

    First, he has to get from Heathrow/Luton/Stansted Airport to Barnes.

    Second, his cupboard is bare of milk, bread and supplies. There are long delays in getting supermarkets to deliver at the moment (a week in my part of the world).

    Without friendly and accommodating neighbours, then it is not going to be so easy for a returning holiday-maker to self-isolate for 2 weeks.
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_the_United_Kingdom#Statistics


    I would be interested to know how many of the recent (passed few days) cases are from people who have retered from other contrarys, and how many from inside the UK, I don't understand why they are not publishing this anymore?

    As UK cases seem to be scattered rater than clustered, for the most part, that would suggest to me its still mostly from people who contracted it oversees but maybe I'm wrong.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    I see there were lots of calls in the EP for the EU to take a co-ordinating role in the management of the crisis - something I raised a couple of days ago - to some derision from the usual suspects on here. Rather amusing to see all the clips of speakers from all over the EU speaking very fluent English as they made their points.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,446
    BigRich said:
    91 cases in Greater London
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880

    BigRich said:
    91 cases in Greater London
    Half the cases are in the greater South East.
    20 cases are in Devon-Torbay-Cornwall.

    However there are cases in every region.
    No where is immune.
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    New York is sending the National Guard to the New York City suburb of New Rochelle to help set up a coronavirus containment area.

    https://trib.al/Vaq5utG
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    Also from the WSJ

    The GOP is racing to stop a Texas candidate who tweets photos of women’s breasts and supports teaching students conspiracy theories: “We will crush him or I will light myself on fire.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/front-runner-for-texas-school-board-wants-to-teach-pole-dancing-conspiracy-theories-11583526093
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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123

    New York is sending the National Guard to the New York City suburb of New Rochelle to help set up a coronavirus containment area.

    https://trib.al/Vaq5utG

    I'm getting images of the start of ET in my head.
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    YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited March 2020



    Half the cases are in the greater South East.
    20 cases are in Devon-Torbay-Cornwall.

    However there are cases in every region.
    No where is immune.

    There are none in Gogledd Cymru
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter. com/davidfrum/status/1237401899189633024

    Haha, Biden comes out of that very well.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    Warren has already left it too late to endorse.
    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/486631-political-reporter-if-warren-waits-too-long-to-endorse-bernie-it-will-be

    Or isn’t going to endorse at all.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,292
    Scott_xP said:

    twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1237401899189633024

    He has a very bad habit of jabby pointy motion with his hands when he disagrees with people.
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    sarissasarissa Posts: 1,800
    Sandpit said:

    What was the price of a barrel of oil in September 2014?

    Around $100
    https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart
    Irrelevant as N sea income had been destroyed by Osborne in his 2011 Budget tax grab.
    https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/gallery/publications/statistics-publication/2018/08/government-expenditure-revenue-scotland-2017-18/00539518.gif
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,205



    Half the cases are in the greater South East.
    20 cases are in Devon-Torbay-Cornwall.

    However there are cases in every region.
    No where is immune.

    There are none in Gogledd Cymru
    Just one case in Lincolnshire, I think.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,713

    BigRich said:
    91 cases in Greater London
    I'm happy to be leaving the Smoke to head to the Smog of Teesside this evening.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,333
    edited March 2020
    Scott_xP said:
    Politicians telling voters they are full of shit is something I would like to see an awful lot more of. Many voters ARE full of shit, let's face it, and therefore it is an example of that thing which so many people say they want to hear from politicians - the much fabled "telling it like it is".
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,853
    ...
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797

    Can it be Joe 90?

    2020 vision doesn’t require those specs....
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited March 2020
    [Edit: I see that the video has just been posted]

    Not sure if this helps or hinders Biden. He goes up in my estimation - it's rather refreshing to see a politician arguing back against idiocy - but I'm not the target market.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited March 2020
    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed



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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    edited March 2020

    [Edit: I see that the video has just been posted]

    Not sure if this helps or hinders Biden. He goes up in my estimation - it's rather refreshing to see a politician arguing back against idiocy - but I'm not the target market.

    The gun nuts aren’t going to vote Democrat anyway.

    Plenty of gun owners, though, are unlikely to be offended.
    This is not ‘deplorables’ - it’s a guy telling a guy who’s full of shit that he’s full of shit.
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880
    Coronavirus, per capita ranking

    1. San Marino (1500 per million)
    2. Vatican City (1000)
    3. Iceland (190)
    4. Italy (152)
    5. S Korea (147)
    6. St. Barts (111)
    7. Iran (96)
    8. Bahrain (65)
    9. Switzerland (57)
    10. China (56)
    11. Norway (53)
    12. Denmark (45)
    ...
    xx. UK (6)
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed

    That’s a “good” new infections rate.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,316
    Number of new daily cases appears now to be falling in France and Germany.

    Adding that to what's already happened in China and South Korea - is there a chance it is being brought under control?

    Albeit I'm not sure how that would be the case?
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed

    That’s a “good” new infections rate.
    yes...but...numbers from Lombardy may be only partial because when they sent the updated numbers this late afternoon, they were still waiting for the results of some tests....
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    [Edit: I see that the video has just been posted]

    Not sure if this helps or hinders Biden. He goes up in my estimation - it's rather refreshing to see a politician arguing back against idiocy - but I'm not the target market.

    This could be like the moment John Major was court on camera calling some of his MPs 'Bastards', The press reporting it as a 'gaff' but then his popularity rose after, as people felt they could relate to that feeling.

    But....
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880
    MikeL said:

    Number of new daily cases appears now to be falling in France and Germany.

    Adding that to what's already happened in China and South Korea - is there a chance it is being brought under control?

    Albeit I'm not sure how that would be the case?

    People with “flu” starting to self isolate?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,164
    North Dakota is up tonight, North Carolina was won by Biden on Super Tuesday
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797

    Also from the WSJ

    The GOP is racing to stop a Texas candidate who tweets photos of women’s breasts and supports teaching students conspiracy theories: “We will crush him or I will light myself on fire.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/front-runner-for-texas-school-board-wants-to-teach-pole-dancing-conspiracy-theories-11583526093

    The top candidate for the board of education...
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    MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    Kind of on topic, I have just put some money on Amy Klobuchar as Biden's VP choice (I'm assuming Biden wins the nomination) as,

    1. She is female
    2. She would shore up Minnesota and probably help in Wisconsin / Iowa
    3. I think the Democrats hierarchy will be well aware there has to be a high chance Biden does not complete his first term, never mind his second. So the VP candidate will have to be someone who can step up to the plate. I can't see any of the others mentioned (Abrams, Harris etc) doing that
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed



    That's a significant drop from yesterday, now the nation is in lock down, have they modified there policy on testing.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,292
    Chameleon said:

    www.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237426680781774850

    Peak cases, or weekend numbers?

    That death rate is horrific.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,902
    edited March 2020
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited March 2020

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed

    That’s a “good” new infections rate.
    yes...but...numbers from Lombardy are partial because when they sent the updated numbers this late afternoon, they were still waiting for the results of some tests....
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880
    Spoke too soon.
    No sign of levelling off in Italy.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited March 2020
    It seems unclear what's going on in Lombardy.

    It's very important to know, either way.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,333
    Trump goes odds AGAINST on Betfair. People are waking up.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,316
    edited March 2020
    That's the lowest daily Italy number since 6 March.

    Last 3 days:

    7 Mar - 1,247
    8 Mar - 1,492
    9 Mar - 1,797
    10 Mar - 977
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,853
    edited March 2020
    England coronavirus warm spots. Given the still low number of cases per area, it would be incorrect to view these as outbreaks as opposed to clusters, but rather places where the initial outbreaks are looking a little more likely, especially where neighbouring areas appear. It is perfectly possible for a dozen or so cases to be in a closed group who have all been isolated and the infection chain broken:

    >5 cases per 100k residents: Torbay, Kensington and Chelsea
    > 2 per 100k: Brighton & Hove, Southwark, Barnet
    >1 per 100k: Devon, Bracknell Forest, Wokingham, Ealing, Hounslow, Hammersmith&Fulham, Westminster, Camden, Tower Hamlets, Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Wolverhampton, Liverpool, Bolton, Trafford, Bury, Oldham, York, Cumbria, Newcastle uT

    Many of the areas reporting new cases are in a quadrant between north and west of Central London. Brighton and Torbay did not see a large uptick today.

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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880
    edited March 2020
    The reporting on coronavirus is awful.

    We are relying on half-mashed Twitter reports from surgeons to understand how Italy is dealing with the plague.

    Let alone Iran or South Korea.

    Where are the intrepid journalists on the spot?
    Where are the foreign stringers?

    And can I note, Iceland.
    Proportionally it has a worse outbreak than Italy, and nobody seems to have noticed.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    kinabalu said:

    Trump goes odds AGAINST on Betfair. People are waking up.

    I did say several times that the lay at 1.75 was great value.
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    MikeL said:

    Number of new daily cases appears now to be falling in France and Germany.

    Adding that to what's already happened in China and South Korea - is there a chance it is being brought under control?

    Albeit I'm not sure how that would be the case?

    People washing there hands better and more often?

    Possibly combined with other spreading reducing meshurs e.g. not shacking hands, phoning in sick rather than going to work when starting to feel unwell.

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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    MrEd said:

    Kind of on topic, I have just put some money on Amy Klobuchar as Biden's VP choice (I'm assuming Biden wins the nomination) as,

    1. She is female
    2. She would shore up Minnesota and probably help in Wisconsin / Iowa
    3. I think the Democrats hierarchy will be well aware there has to be a high chance Biden does not complete his first term, never mind his second. So the VP candidate will have to be someone who can step up to the plate. I can't see any of the others mentioned (Abrams, Harris etc) doing that

    I think either would be preferable to the Klob.
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    BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    edited March 2020
    And since Boris won so handsomely, he can cheerfully tell that many rebels to go fuck themselves :smile:
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426
    BigRich said:

    [Edit: I see that the video has just been posted]

    Not sure if this helps or hinders Biden. He goes up in my estimation - it's rather refreshing to see a politician arguing back against idiocy - but I'm not the target market.

    This could be like the moment John Major was court on camera calling some of his MPs 'Bastards', The press reporting it as a 'gaff' but then his popularity rose after, as people felt they could relate to that feeling.

    But....
    If I can understand the sound correctly, the man is talking about a video of Biden talking about banning guns which Biden says is fake.

    The voter says: "It's your face and your voice".

    The 2020 election folks.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited March 2020

    The reporting on coronavirus is awful.

    We are relying on half-mashed Twitter reports from surgeons to understand how Italy is dealing with the plague.

    Let alone Iran or South Korea.

    Where are the intrepid journalists on the spot?
    Where are the foreign stringers?

    And can I note, Iceland.
    Proportionally it has a worse outbreak than Italy, and nobody seems to have noticed.

    I suppose journalists don't want to get the virus, and lockdowns make it difficult anyway. If there are then official silences, that only leaves social media and twitter, which may be both more and less helpful in building up a more integrated picture.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    They're meant to be our representatives, not our betters I think? So they should talk to the public the same as they would if they weren't politicians, or if the public were
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,880

    And since Boris won so handsomely, he can cheerfully tell that many rebels to go fuck themselves :smile:
    McVey, Chope, Francois.
    The absolute dregs de la dregs.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426
    NYTimes:

    With New Rochelle, a small city just north of New York City in Westchester County, emerging as the center of the state’s outbreak, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York on Tuesday announced a targeted containment strategy to halt the spread of the virus.

    The state’s plan focuses on a “containment area” in New Rochelle with a one-mile radius centered around a synagogue believed to be at the center of the cluster, officials said.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,429
    Waitrose advancing the cut off for amending home delivery orders tonight from 11 pm to 9 pm “due to high demand”.

    The beginning of the end is nigh.

    I hope I get the toilet rolls I ordered.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    Can it be Joe 90?

    Is that the opposite of a pop culture reference?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797
    Interesting thread.
    Huge scepticism about China’s official figures in the comments, but I can’t see how they could hide a continuing outbreak elsewhere in the country for any great length of time...

    https://twitter.com/StephenMcDonell/status/1237198964182540290
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    HYUFD said:
    Interesting. Both Sanders and Biden advancing on Trump to similar degrees. The fallout from the virus must be already affecting him.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 31,014

    And since Boris won so handsomely, he can cheerfully tell that many rebels to go fuck themselves :smile:
    McVey, Chope, Francois.
    The absolute dregs de la dregs.
    Trouble is that in this one particular instance they happen to be right. Whether by design or blind luck I don't know. But the Huawei decision is by far the biggest mistake Boris has made since he won the election - and the one that will com back to bite him in the future.

    I just hope his other decisions are less suicidally stupid.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited March 2020
    Nigelb said:

    Interesting thread.
    Huge scepticism about China’s official figures in the comments, but I can’t see how they could hide a continuing outbreak elsewhere in the country for any great length of time...

    https://twitter.com/StephenMcDonell/status/1237198964182540290

    Zero does seem a bit optimistic. I wonder if numbers are very considerably down, but not zero, and the Chinese government are "rounding that off" to zero for economic reasons.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Politicians telling voters they are full of shit is something I would like to see an awful lot more of. Many voters ARE full of shit, let's face it, and therefore it is an example of that thing which so many people say they want to hear from politicians - the much fabled "telling it like it is".
    The famed "£80k isn't even in the top 50% of income" guy could have done with Burgon telling him he was full of shit.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    HYUFD said:
    I wonder if landlords will give rent holidays?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048
    edited March 2020
    isam said:

    They're meant to be our representatives, not our betters I think? So they should talk to the public the same as they would if they weren't politicians, or if the public were
    I think there's a line to be walked. Expecting our representatives to be paragons of virtue, superlative in the legislative fields and inspiring political visionaries is being a bit unfair, but personally I don't think it unreasonable that when we give people power over us there is a reasonable expectation that they will be better on average, to hold them to a higher standard than a random person on the street.

    Now, that doesn't mean we should expect them to never drop the professional facade in their interactions with us, each to their own, but I also don't agree that we would expect them to talk to the public in precisely the same way as if they were not politicians. They are performing a role as political leaders, and just as we don't talk the same at work as we do at home, or if we were up before a judge or in a rap battle, so too they will communicate in a different way in different situations and to different people. The fact is they are what they are, and while there is not a need for constant massaging of their every utterance toward us, it does not follow that they should act as though they are not politicians.

    But there is always a place, even for politicians, to speak plainly, even forcefully.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,618
    Alistair said:

    HYUFD said:
    I wonder if landlords will give rent holidays?
    Don't be ridiculous, as if landlords would ever think about anyone but themselves.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,713
    HYUFD said:
    I saw this interview this morning. Lisa was very poor. The sort of wibbling nonsense I thought she was able to rise above.

    Alas it appears that this whole self identification issue is enough to get her tied up in knots.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    And since Boris won so handsomely, he can cheerfully tell that many rebels to go fuck themselves :smile:
    Hopefully that will be the case on many issues, in a good way, though we're a bit at his mercy there.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    BigRich said:

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed



    That's a significant drop from yesterday, now the nation is in lock down, have they modified there policy on testing.
    Or the people tasked with doing the counting can't get out.

    Or have the virus.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,429

    HYUFD said:
    I saw this interview this morning. Lisa was very poor. The sort of wibbling nonsense I thought she was able to rise above.

    Alas it appears that this whole self identification issue is enough to get her tied up in knots.
    Given how provocative Morgan was being, I think she comes out of this pretty well. And I have little time for the hundred gender folks.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,446
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068

    Also, on self-isolation after a skiing or any other kind of holiday, is it that easy?

    Suppose Our Man into Tyrol manages to return to Barnes.

    First, he has to get from Heathrow/Luton/Stansted Airport to Barnes.

    Second, his cupboard is bare of milk, bread and supplies. There are long delays in getting supermarkets to deliver at the moment (a week in my part of the world).

    Without friendly and accommodating neighbours, then it is not going to be so easy for a returning holiday-maker to self-isolate for 2 weeks.

    It's not about complete self isolation

    It's about changing the quantity of people you have physical interactions with. If you live in London, travel by tube to the office, where you spend time with a lot of people, you may be in close physical contact with 1,000 people a day.

    Given the virus is currently doubling every six days, that means that it might mean that one to three of the six thousand people you have physical contact with over that period gets it.

    Now, imagine you cut your physical contact down to 100 people a day. That means that instead of one to three people, it's 0.1 to 0.3 people that you pass it onto to. So long as everyone does this, then the number of new cases slows dramatically.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426
    Nigelb said:

    Interesting thread.
    Huge scepticism about China’s official figures in the comments, but I can’t see how they could hide a continuing outbreak elsewhere in the country for any great length of time...

    https://twitter.com/StephenMcDonell/status/1237198964182540290

    So, locking down an entire province might work?

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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,385
    edited March 2020
    Donald Trump. ‘I do not intend to make this election about age. I will not exploit, for political purposes, my opponent’s senility and octogenarianism.’

    Of course, that would be far too classy for Trump. He’llmore probably make up some series of lies linking Biden to the mafia. But how the actual fuck are we talking about a Democratic front runner who is older than the oldest first time president ever elected, and an alternative who is older than that?

    I mean - how?
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    eristdooferistdoof Posts: 4,912
    BigRich said:

    MikeL said:

    Number of new daily cases appears now to be falling in France and Germany.

    Adding that to what's already happened in China and South Korea - is there a chance it is being brought under control?

    Albeit I'm not sure how that would be the case?

    People washing there hands better and more often?

    Possibly combined with other spreading reducing meshurs e.g. not shacking hands, phoning in sick rather than going to work when starting to feel unwell.

    Or just the usual day to day variability you get in count data.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144

    HYUFD said:
    I saw this interview this morning. Lisa was very poor. The sort of wibbling nonsense I thought she was able to rise above.

    Alas it appears that this whole self identification issue is enough to get her tied up in knots.
    She knows she has lost - so can say whatever she wants to say, rather than what is required to win votes.

    But freed up to wibble ain't a great look.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,333

    Interesting. Both Sanders and Biden advancing on Trump to similar degrees. The fallout from the virus must be already affecting him.

    When Biden wins WH2020 I'll be happy (obvs) but there is going to be that little voice whispering to me, "We could have had Bernie!"
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2020
    kinabalu said:

    Trump goes odds AGAINST on Betfair. People are waking up.

    Winning Party Dems are still odds against. 2.02

    I said they were value at 2.18 and I have backed them at 2.5.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,067

    Italy update

    528 new cases for a total of 8514 currently infected.,

    168 new deaths. 135 of them in Lombardy.
    260 new healed

    That’s a “good” new infections rate.
    dire death rate though
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    HYUFD said:
    I wonder if landlords will give rent holidays?
    Don't be ridiculous, as if landlords would ever think about anyone but themselves.
    I was being highly rhetorical.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,797

    HYUFD said:
    I saw this interview this morning. Lisa was very poor. The sort of wibbling nonsense I thought she was able to rise above.

    Alas it appears that this whole self identification issue is enough to get her tied up in knots.
    Piers Morgan self identifies as a horse’s arse.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,551
    Given that the altercation was with an angry gun owner rather than an angry egg thrower fists would have been a less than optimal idea.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426

    HYUFD said:
    I saw this interview this morning. Lisa was very poor. The sort of wibbling nonsense I thought she was able to rise above.

    Alas it appears that this whole self identification issue is enough to get her tied up in knots.
    The actual clip linked to there, she seems to handle it well. Piers gets himself into some weird place where he wants to self identify as a penguin and Nandy says it would be an improvement.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,551
    That is great news about America lifting the ban on British beef! Haggis next...
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