So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. Whthe election.
I'm not conflicare? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
I know the point, I simply disagree with it in most cases (there are certainly matters of sufficient import that an important person showing up will add some value). I don't think it does demonstrate concern (and as I noted it doesn't stop accusations they are not concerned),it is not evidence of priority (ditto, as actions demonstrate that, not a walkabout), and I don't see how it offers any accountability in the slightest. Media attention, possibly, except it's usually in reverse as it is media attention of an event which leads to demands that they show themselves.
How soon must they show themselves to show it is not because someone accused them of not showing enough concern? Within a day? A week? What if there are issues in different places, which do they go to? At what level of problem should the PM drop other matters to show up? A flood? Of what size or duration? Riots? Probably. Would an international summit be important enough to not show up to a local matter? Preparing for a budget? A war? Does that mean they don't care?
So no, I can't accept it demonstrates or is evidence of priority as you suggest. If the government response to the floods was well in hand then showing up would be a disruption and would in fact demonstrate tackling the issue is less of a priority than a photo op to show they care. Which in itself would show their concern at being seen to be concerned is higher than their concern about the issue itself. A valid political worry, but not demonstration of genuine concern.
As for your last point, that's abolutely right that seeing things first hand helps push things up the agenda. There will be times when ministers and PMs will need that too. But there are a million and one things for a PM to keep oversight of, and they cannot see or hear all things firsthand - perhaps they shouldn't decide their priorities based on whatever is in front of their faces at any one moment.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
I was thinking of that series last night. I never got past the first few episodes (it seemed like they were overreacting) but thought it might be worth another go.
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
No easy answers - but Corbyn visiting Wales demanding Boris calls a cobra meeting and takes action is beyond parody when it is labour who are responsible here in Wales
Corbyn is frankly yesterdays news and needs to go and attend his allotment having been an utter failure for the labour party.
Mind you I see RLB wants him in her cabinet thereby condemning labour to the widerness
No more bonkers than Starmer seemingly being prepared to have RLB and Burgon in his cabinet.
Interesting to see the furore Johnson and his passport has engendered. It's smart politics.
Johnson talks a lot about "bringing the country together" and in the immediate aftermath of his election victory he could afford to be magnanimous (victors usually can) so there were dollops of understanding and sympathy both for those who voted REMAIN and for those who didn't vote for him on 12/12.
He has of course not to forget who gave him his 80 vote majority and that was the LEAVE vote (or the majority of it) so the occasional symbolic gesture to that group has to be expected.
Gestures like this (as Trump has shown) have a secondary effect - not only do they galvanise your own side but in irritating the other side drives them to the extremes so Trump's blustering aids Sanders as the infuriated Democrats head for the extreme in response.
The response to populist gesture politics is not to get mad or try to get even but let it go. Recognise it for what it is - an empty gesture. Populists need to be confronted on what they do not what they say or the insults. Johnson won't be beaten by insults or by running to extreme responses but by a careful measured forensic analysis of what he and his Government actually do and achieve.
In that regard, Starmer may be the solid Labour option - uninspiring perhaps, dull even but it may be he can hold Johnson to account on what the Government does and not on the gestures and the insults. He won't inspire on day one but over time the critique will cut through especially if it comes to mirror the reality.
I wish there was more of a balance between admiring someone for being pretty consistent in their principles (though with a focus on what those principles are) versus in effect praising them for never changing their mind, which doesn't seem that great a thing for me.
It's all pretty subjective though, my consistency & adherence to principle v. your* bloody minded intractability etc.
It can throw up paradoxes, eg the almost universal PB Tory admiration for the Iron Lady's never turning-ness while many of the same folk have now divined that she made the journey from campaigner for the EEC & enthusiastic enabler of the single market to full blown Brexiteer. That much of this journey would have occurred during her dotage and post-mortem doesn't really seem to affect their certainty.
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
It's not strange because that it was happening has been known for years, so while it is a notable moment, it has been noted. The precise date of it happening being noted would only be of interest to historians.
I get your point but realistically what percentage of the nation has known of this date for years? Sub 1%? Certainly sub 10% so newsworthy imo. Plenty wouldnt even have known we even had active bases in Germany let alone the status of them closing down.
I'd suggest its newsworthy and noteworthy in a similar way to the UK leaving Hong Kong was in 1997 even if the date had been set well in advance.
That was more newsworthy (and indeed had global coverage) as it was the end of the Empire.
Don't be a doomster/gloomster. You've still got Southern Thule.
The next Presidential Election: Agent Orange versus Captain Scarlet.
It will be a monumental (!) showdown between two sides of masculine America -
Tom Hanks vs Charlton Heston. McEnroe vs Connors. Basketball vs Baseball. The Kennedys vs Hoover and Nixon. Atticus Finch vs Al Capone. Seafood vs Steak. Johnny Cash vs Don Williams. Taxi Driver vs Top Gun. Moby Dick vs Utter Dick. Irony vs ...
I wish there was more of a balance between admiring someone for being pretty consistent in their principles (though with a focus on what those principles are) versus in effect praising them for never changing their mind, which doesn't seem that great a thing for me.
It's all pretty subjective though, my consistency & adherence to principle v. your* bloody minded intractability etc.
It can throw up paradoxes, eg the almost universal PB Tory admiration for the Iron Lady's never turning-ness while many of the same folk have now divined that she made the journey from campaigner for the EEC & enthusiastic enabler of the single market to full blown Brexiteer. That much of this journey would have occurred during her dotage and post-mortem doesn't really seem to affect their certainty.
*not you obvs.
It's a fair point, and it will depend on the issue to a large degree I think. Constant political tergiversation or failure to hold any firm views will hardly inspire and some principles have a large enough degree of support to receive acclaim for never yielding on. But particular in periods of intense political upheaval or social/economic/technological change, no movement at all on, to pick a random example, housing policy, would be odd.
Either way, I'm sick and tired of this Project Fear from eadric.
I have diagnosed the illness that infests PB (and, to be fair, many others)
It’s called “normalcy bias”, or “the ostrich effect”. It’s because the overload of information slows down the brains of less intelligent people.
“Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.[1]”
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
You're not in the same category though. In that clip he keeps couching things with "could" and "potentially" which you don't. Then he says the 400,000 number is "not helpful" so what do you do? Come here screaming 400,000 which he just said was not helpful. Great job!
Finally he says he'd rather be accused of being overreacting and you're overreacting to what he said so yes you definitely are overreacting.
Either way, I'm sick and tired of this Project Fear from eadric.
I have diagnosed the illness that infests PB (and, to be fair, many others)
It’s called “normalcy bias”, or “the ostrich effect”. It’s because the overload of information slows down the brains of less intelligent people.
“Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.[1]”
Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects.
Ah a perfect example of Brexit voters.
But I'm really keen to hear about your medical credentials.
Either way, I'm sick and tired of this Project Fear from eadric.
I have diagnosed the illness that infests PB (and, to be fair, many others)
It’s called “normalcy bias”, or “the ostrich effect”. It’s because the overload of information slows down the brains of less intelligent people.
“Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.[1]”
On topic if Sanders really turns out to be the nominee then I'll be going in heavily on Trump to not only win, but lump on Trump winning the popular vote.
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
Borris didn't go to Fishlake in November either, but the Tories still recorded a 13.7% local swing in their favour less than a month later.
Either way, I'm sick and tired of this Project Fear from eadric.
I have diagnosed the illness that infests PB (and, to be fair, many others)
It’s called “normalcy bias”, or “the ostrich effect”. It’s because the overload of information slows down the brains of less intelligent people.
“Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.[1]”
Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects.
Ah a perfect example of Brexit voters.
But I'm really keen to hear about your medical credentials.
Normalcy bias tells me that Sean will be hyperventilating and flip-flopping about on whatever is the issue of concern of the day.
Wow, that is a surprise. I spent 2 years of my childhood in Fallingbostal which at that time had 3 British regiments including a tank regiment and a heavy artillery regiment along with huge REME workshops and sundry minor units, visiting paras etc. And that was only one of the bases of the BAOR which had its own radio station etc. Changed days indeed.
I have diagnosed the illness that infests PB (and, to be fair, many others)
It’s called “normalcy bias”, or “the ostrich effect”. It’s because the overload of information slows down the brains of less intelligent people.
“Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a tendency for people to believe that things will always function the way they have normally have functioned and therefore underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.[1]”
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
Borris didn't go to Fishlake in November either, but the Tories still recorded a 13.7% local swing in their favour less than a month later.
But Boris was booed in Doncaster in September.
Which proved that the Conservatives were hated throughout the North.
We were told that this was so by people who had spent an afternoon in Manchester a few years earlier.
On topic if Sanders really turns out to be the nominee then I'll be going in heavily on Trump to not only win, but lump on Trump winning the popular vote.
I don’t want to sound obsessive (heaven forbid), but you should maybe factor in the impact of the virus on your expectations of a Trump victory. Reasons given here:
Against Trump: It could crash the economy For Trump: He can make a big thing about keeping out foreigners Against Trump: He will probably bollocks up the response For Trump: He can quarantine people in Dem areas on election day
Democrats are in danger of developing an African Am. male problem: https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928 According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
On topic if Sanders really turns out to be the nominee then I'll be going in heavily on Trump to not only win, but lump on Trump winning the popular vote.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
Democrats are in danger of developing an African Am. male problem: https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928 According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
Wow, that is a surprise. I spent 2 years of my childhood in Fallingbostal which at that time had 3 British regiments including a tank regiment and a heavy artillery regiment along with huge REME workshops and sundry minor units, visiting paras etc. And that was only one of the bases of the BAOR which had its own radio station etc. Changed days indeed.
Yes, my best friend at Uni went to Cologne to study for a year and I visited him a couple of times. He used to listen to "Nankers" on BAOR radio who seemed like a typical radio DJ.
I didn't realise that West Germany paid all the bills for the BAOR presence and a united Germany carried on paying for British troops to be stationed well into the 1990s and beyond (cheaper having British troops in Germany than having to feed, clothe and house them in the UK)
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
The answer from the Floods minister on the radio was spot on
“We have Cabinet Government. I am responsible for dealing with the floods and have been out talking to people and making sure they get the help they need. I have been keeping the Prime Minister fully informed so he is completely aware of what we are doing”
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
The answer from the Floods minister on the radio was spot on
“We have Cabinet Government. I am responsible for dealing with the floods and have been out talking to people and making sure they get the help they need. I have been keeping the Prime Minister fully informed so he is completely aware of what we are doing”
Wow, that is a surprise. I spent 2 years of my childhood in Fallingbostal which at that time had 3 British regiments including a tank regiment and a heavy artillery regiment along with huge REME workshops and sundry minor units, visiting paras etc. And that was only one of the bases of the BAOR which had its own radio station etc. Changed days indeed.
Its presumably why Germany is the third highest country for non-UK births among people living in Scotland.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
You are a sort of amateur banker. Here is Neil Ferguson:
“Neil Morris Ferguson OBE FMedSci (born 1968), is a professor of mathematical biology, who specialises in the epidemiology of infectious disease spread in humans and animals. He is the director of the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics (J-IDEA), head of the Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology in the School of Public Health and Vice-Dean for Academic Development in the Faculty of Medicine, all at Imperial College, London.
Ferguson was appointed OBE in 2002 for his work modelling the 2001 United Kingdom foot-and-mouth outbreak. He used mathematical modelling to provide data on several disease outbreaks including the swine flu outbreak in 2009 in the UK and the Western African Ebola virus epidemic in 2016. His work has also included research on mosquito-borne diseases including zika, yellow fever, dengue and malaria.
In February 2020, during the COVID-2019 outbreak which began in China, using statistical models, Ferguson and his team estimated that the reported cases of the new coronavirus are significantly underestimated in China.”
Still, who needs experts, eh?
We do need experts.
People who first decided that Project Fear might be real on walking home from the polling station, not so much.
On topic if Sanders really turns out to be the nominee then I'll be going in heavily on Trump to not only win, but lump on Trump winning the popular vote.
I don’t want to sound obsessive (heaven forbid), but you should maybe factor in the impact of the virus on your expectations of a Trump victory. Reasons given here:
Against Trump: It could crash the economy For Trump: He can make a big thing about keeping out foreigners Against Trump: He will probably bollocks up the response For Trump: He can quarantine people in Dem areas on election day
No.3 has already happened. No.1 is in the process of happening. No.2 is in the process of happening. No.4 will be difficult because of the constitution.
And I will add a No.5: Massive collapse in trust towards government institutions.
But there unknowns, the massive crash in world trade and transportation would mean that everything will have to be made locally, we don't know the precice economic impact.
It will be an accelerant of trends towards Nationalism, Protectionism and Xenophobia that already exist.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
Your passport was blue. But the dye darkens over time, so it now looks black. My mother’s passport from the 1960s is similar. The new passport is a much lighter blue than the old one ever was.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
Almost as if panicking like a headless chicken attracts more attention than being calm and rational.
His personal interest is best served by becoming the media go to guy.
This is the person you should listen to (this particular statement is old but it was the first I pulled up with google). I’ll worry when he gets worried.
The scary thing about the coronavirus is not China, because containment actually seems to be working.
It’s Japan, Korea, Italy.
None of these countries seem institutionally or culturally well prepared for a pandemic.
As I said this morning, speaking to my Thai friend yesterday, there is growing panic at home. Universities cancelling field trips, people cancelling travel plans, lots of people staying indoors or wearing masks outside. Whatever the future for the virus I suggest the world's stock markets are a big sell right now.
Leave Mourinho alone, he's playing without Kane & Son, he's got a tightwad Chairman who wants to do things on the cheap.
He's also putting that thug Alli in his place as well.
I hope Mourinho is Spurs manager as long as Ole is United manager.
Remember that performance against City a few weeks ago.
I was there for that too - the luckiest win ever, well until we then beat Saints in the FA Cup replay.
Levy is the main culprit, too mean to pay for Llorente to sit on the bench in case Kane and Son both injured means likely to cost tens of millions in lost revenue and CL kudos next year.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
You are a sort of amateur banker. Here is Neil Ferguson:
“Neil Morris Ferguson OBE FMedSci (born 1968), is a professor of mathematical biology, who specialises in the epidemiology of infectious disease spread in humans and animals. He is the director of the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics (J-IDEA), head of the Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology in the School of Public Health and Vice-Dean for Academic Development in the Faculty of Medicine, all at Imperial College, London.
Ferguson was appointed OBE in 2002 for his work modelling the 2001 United Kingdom foot-and-mouth outbreak. He used mathematical modelling to provide data on several disease outbreaks including the swine flu outbreak in 2009 in the UK and the Western African Ebola virus epidemic in 2016. His work has also included research on mosquito-borne diseases including zika, yellow fever, dengue and malaria.
In February 2020, during the COVID-2019 outbreak which began in China, using statistical models, Ferguson and his team estimated that the reported cases of the new coronavirus are significantly underestimated in China.”
Still, who needs experts, eh?
I know Neil and have been following him on twitter since December. He’s a statistician not a real world guy.
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
The answer from the Floods minister on the radio was spot on
“We have Cabinet Government. I am responsible for dealing with the floods and have been out talking to people and making sure they get the help they need. I have been keeping the Prime Minister fully informed so he is completely aware of what we are doing”
So what do people think of Boris not turning up to the floods?
I'm conflicted. When these people do I get annoyed as they are just wasting people's time and doing sod all good, but then when they don't it looks like incompetence and not caring. I guess if there was some way of convincing people that your guys had it all under control and you didn't want to get in the way then that would be ok.
At the moment the UK Govt response to the liner off Japan and the floods looks hopeless, but it might be they are doing all the right stuff, but the message on R4 this morning was they wanted to keep Boris under wraps to avoid public incidents aka as they did in the election.
I'm not conflicted in the slightest. Either the government response is working well in which case showing up achieves nothing, or it is not working well and sorting it out will not be aided by Boris getting his wellies on. Some people present in such areas ask where the PM is on these occasions, so there's theoretically some people who would feel better if he did, even if just so they could moan at him, but like I don't think, in most cases, that going walkabout is useful, and as a society we need to grow up from thinking it shows people don't care.
I don't see that happening, since it happens no matter who or which party is in power, but the pointlessness of it is shown by further reactions - if someone does show up does that stop people saying the response is incompetent or they don't care? Not noticably.
The point is that it demonstrates concern, is evidence of priority, offers at least a glimpse of accountability, and helps attract media attention toward the plight of the victims.
As a local politician seeing and hearing things first hand rarely failed to push it up my agenda and enabled me to speak with more authority to others.
He has priorities.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
The answer from the Floods minister on the radio was spot on
“We have Cabinet Government. I am responsible for dealing with the floods and have been out talking to people and making sure they get the help they need. I have been keeping the Prime Minister fully informed so he is completely aware of what we are doing”
"We have Cabinet Government"
Only when it suits Johnson.
When it suits him, we also have Vanishing Cabinet government. He sends them to speak to Cummings and they are never heard of again.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
On topic if Sanders really turns out to be the nominee then I'll be going in heavily on Trump to not only win, but lump on Trump winning the popular vote.
I don’t want to sound obsessive (heaven forbid), but you should maybe factor in the impact of the virus on your expectations of a Trump victory. Reasons given here:
Against Trump: It could crash the economy For Trump: He can make a big thing about keeping out foreigners Against Trump: He will probably bollocks up the response For Trump: He can quarantine people in Dem areas on election day
No.3 has already happened. No.1 is in the process of happening. No.2 is in the process of happening. No.4 will be difficult because of the constitution.
No. 4 will happen anyway since Dem-controlled cities are going to be worst affected.
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
Being there isn't the risk, it's the getting there
The scary thing about the coronavirus is not China, because containment actually seems to be working.
It’s Japan, Korea, Italy.
None of these countries seem institutionally or culturally well prepared for a pandemic.
As I said this morning, speaking to my Thai friend yesterday, there is growing panic at home. Universities cancelling field trips, people cancelling travel plans, lots of people staying indoors or wearing masks outside. Whatever the future for the virus I suggest the world's stock markets are a big sell right now.
Also: short Asian Currencies.
And yes on Thailand. I have a good friend who owns a load of restaurant chains in Bangkok, Phuket etc. She is not happy.
THE two people who were taken ill with coronavirus while staying at a York aparthotel have left hospital and thanked NHS staff for their care and support.
The pair, believed to be Chinese nationals, were taken to hospital by paramedics in hazmat suits from the StayCity aparthotel at the end of last month.
Democrats are in danger of developing an African Am. male problem: https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928 According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
Democrats are in danger of developing an African Am. male problem: https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928 According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
The scary thing about the coronavirus is not China, because containment actually seems to be working.
It’s Japan, Korea, Italy.
None of these countries seem institutionally or culturally well prepared for a pandemic.
As I said this morning, speaking to my Thai friend yesterday, there is growing panic at home. Universities cancelling field trips, people cancelling travel plans, lots of people staying indoors or wearing masks outside. Whatever the future for the virus I suggest the world's stock markets are a big sell right now.
Also: short Asian Currencies.
And yes on Thailand. I have a good friend who owns a load of restaurant chains in Bangkok, Phuket etc. She is not happy.
Buy gold. Already on the up
I have a stake in an Egyptian goldmine (CEY) in my ISA and it is up 72% and rising.
Democrats are in danger of developing an African Am. male problem: https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928 According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
The issue will be insurance cover. Maybe buy it now - before it gets too expensive/not covered by the policy.
I will continue to advocate returning to a self-confident, brave and forward looking state, rather than the shadow of our former selves that we are today. Things have changed radically for the worse, they can change again but we will have to work for it.
Maay I suggest changing your alliegance to the Commonwealth then? It is rather more fit for purpose than the EU "state"......
Do you actually believe this twaddle?
Or are you trying to make us characterise all Leavers as imperial nostalgists, when you are in fact the useful idiots of the forces of authoritarianism?
I will continue to advocate returning to a self-confident, brave and forward looking state, rather than the shadow of our former selves that we are today. Things have changed radically for the worse, they can change again but we will have to work for it.
Maay I suggest changing your alliegance to the Commonwealth then? It is rather more fit for purpose than the EU "state"......
Do you actually believe this twaddle?
Or are you trying to make us characterise all Leavers as imperial nostalgists, when you are in fact the useful idiots of the forces of authoritarianism?
Wow, that is a surprise. I spent 2 years of my childhood in Fallingbostal which at that time had 3 British regiments including a tank regiment and a heavy artillery regiment along with huge REME workshops and sundry minor units, visiting paras etc. And that was only one of the bases of the BAOR which had its own radio station etc. Changed days indeed.
Yes, my best friend at Uni went to Cologne to study for a year and I visited him a couple of times. He used to listen to "Nankers" on BAOR radio who seemed like a typical radio DJ.
I didn't realise that West Germany paid all the bills for the BAOR presence and a united Germany carried on paying for British troops to be stationed well into the 1990s and beyond (cheaper having British troops in Germany than having to feed, clothe and house them in the UK)
The shrinkage in the size of the British army is not unconnected with the end of these arrangements. My main recollection of BAOR radio is Tie a yellow ribbon which was played almost endlessly as unit after unit returned from their tours in NI, not always intact. Still chokes me up a bit tbh.
Your passport was blue. But the dye darkens over time, so it now looks black. My mother’s passport from the 1960s is similar. The new passport is a much lighter blue than the old one ever was.
Shouldn’t the model be to use the exact same shade as Canada? It looks to me as if the Canadians simply retained the colour of the then British passports when they started issuing their own.
Wow, that is a surprise. I spent 2 years of my childhood in Fallingbostal which at that time had 3 British regiments including a tank regiment and a heavy artillery regiment along with huge REME workshops and sundry minor units, visiting paras etc. And that was only one of the bases of the BAOR which had its own radio station etc. Changed days indeed.
Its presumably why Germany is the third highest country for non-UK births among people living in Scotland.
My sister was born in Hanover. Until she was 18 she was entitled to German citizenship. My dad was in Derry at the time. At her wedding he told the story of a message coming over the radio net for Captain L, "its a Golf, Indigo, Roma, Lima, repeat its..."
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
This is almost certainly true already. I cannot believe the virus is in provincial Italy but not in, say, London - or Hamburg.
I don’t want to display any normalcy bias, like an idiot, but probably the best bet now is to presume it will spread everywhere.
I was wrong. You’re not SeanT, you’re Chicken Licken.
Look, this virus is clearly virulent and in the wrong circumstances can be dangerous. But it’s much less dangerous than Spanish flu and barely seems worse than standard flu. There is no reason for hysteria yet.
No more bonkers than Starmer seemingly being prepared to have RLB and Burgon in his cabinet.
Is he?
Yeah, a lot of chaff around before votes are cast.
Smartest thing to do would be to keep McDonnell (at least he can handle an interview) and give him a weighty portfolio, then look to ditch the other fuckwits either straight away or once you've consolidated.
Not that I give a rat's arse about Labour until they embrace electoral reform.
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
This is almost certainly true already. I cannot believe the virus is in provincial Italy but not in, say, London - or Hamburg.
I don’t want to display any normalcy bias, like an idiot, but probably the best bet now is to presume it will spread everywhere.
I was wrong. You’re not SeanT, you’re Chicken Licken.
Look, this virus is clearly virulent and in the wrong circumstances can be dangerous. But it’s much less dangerous than Spanish flu and barely seems worse than standard flu. There is no reason for hysteria yet.
If he really was SeanT, he would be able to afford his own medical ventilator. Which is what I would really be investing in if I were rich. I assume it's the shortage of those once local medical systems become overwhelmed that leads to all the pneumonia deaths.
Assuming we're all going to get it, what you really want is to catch it early, somewhere there is good medical care. If it becomes a pandemic and the medical systems are overwhelmed the mortality rate will leap from 0.5%ish to 4%ish at least as there simply aren't enough ICU beds.
This is incredible. A live, interactive map of South Korea, showing the spread of the virus (and listing the details), with an English language option.
You have to wonder if the UK is capable of similar sophistication. Hmm.
So far, seems only about 3% of suspected cases are turning out to be COVID-19. Seems S. Korea is treating it seriously, checking out all possible cases.
I am supposed to be in Hamburg in a month, for a global expo, and then skiing outside Geneva with my family.
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
Yes. If it gets that far it will make no difference where you are, it will be a truly global pandemic. You might as well run the risk of catching it in Hamburg or Geneva as in London(?).
This is almost certainly true already. I cannot believe the virus is in provincial Italy but not in, say, London - or Hamburg.
I don’t want to display any normalcy bias, like an idiot, but probably the best bet now is to presume it will spread everywhere.
I was wrong. You’re not SeanT, you’re Chicken Licken.
Look, this virus is clearly virulent and in the wrong circumstances can be dangerous. But it’s much less dangerous than Spanish flu and barely seems worse than standard flu. There is no reason for hysteria yet.
If he really was SeanT, he would be able to afford his own medical ventilator. Which is what I would really be investing in if I were rich. I assume it's the shortage of those once local medical systems become overwhelmed that leads to all the pneumonia deaths.
Assuming we're all going to get it, what you really want is to catch it early, somewhere there is good medical care. If it becomes a pandemic and the medical systems are overwhelmed the mortality rate will leap from 0.5%ish to 4%ish at least as there simply aren't enough ICU beds.
Potential significant impact in retirement communities where health facilities are already over stretched. Could change the seaside resorts demographically.
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How soon must they show themselves to show it is not because someone accused them of not showing enough concern? Within a day? A week? What if there are issues in different places, which do they go to? At what level of problem should the PM drop other matters to show up? A flood? Of what size or duration? Riots? Probably. Would an international summit be important enough to not show up to a local matter? Preparing for a budget? A war? Does that mean they don't care?
So no, I can't accept it demonstrates or is evidence of priority as you suggest. If the government response to the floods was well in hand then showing up would be a disruption and would in fact demonstrate tackling the issue is less of a priority than a photo op to show they care. Which in itself would show their concern at being seen to be concerned is higher than their concern about the issue itself. A valid political worry, but not demonstration of genuine concern.
As for your last point, that's abolutely right that seeing things first hand helps push things up the agenda. There will be times when ministers and PMs will need that too. But there are a million and one things for a PM to keep oversight of, and they cannot see or hear all things firsthand - perhaps they shouldn't decide their priorities based on whatever is in front of their faces at any one moment.
Interesting to see the furore Johnson and his passport has engendered. It's smart politics.
Johnson talks a lot about "bringing the country together" and in the immediate aftermath of his election victory he could afford to be magnanimous (victors usually can) so there were dollops of understanding and sympathy both for those who voted REMAIN and for those who didn't vote for him on 12/12.
He has of course not to forget who gave him his 80 vote majority and that was the LEAVE vote (or the majority of it) so the occasional symbolic gesture to that group has to be expected.
Gestures like this (as Trump has shown) have a secondary effect - not only do they galvanise your own side but in irritating the other side drives them to the extremes so Trump's blustering aids Sanders as the infuriated Democrats head for the extreme in response.
The response to populist gesture politics is not to get mad or try to get even but let it go. Recognise it for what it is - an empty gesture. Populists need to be confronted on what they do not what they say or the insults. Johnson won't be beaten by insults or by running to extreme responses but by a careful measured forensic analysis of what he and his Government actually do and achieve.
In that regard, Starmer may be the solid Labour option - uninspiring perhaps, dull even but it may be he can hold Johnson to account on what the Government does and not on the gestures and the insults. He won't inspire on day one but over time the critique will cut through especially if it comes to mirror the reality.
It can throw up paradoxes, eg the almost universal PB Tory admiration for the Iron Lady's never turning-ness while many of the same folk have now divined that she made the journey from campaigner for the EEC & enthusiastic enabler of the single market to full blown Brexiteer. That much of this journey would have occurred during her dotage and post-mortem doesn't really seem to affect their certainty.
*not you obvs.
He is in a perpetual COBRA meeting, planning for 400,000 dead Brits. But of course, he can't admit to it.....
Tom Hanks vs Charlton Heston.
McEnroe vs Connors.
Basketball vs Baseball.
The Kennedys vs Hoover and Nixon.
Atticus Finch vs Al Capone.
Seafood vs Steak.
Johnny Cash vs Don Williams.
Taxi Driver vs Top Gun.
Moby Dick vs Utter Dick.
Irony vs ...
(that's enough ... Ed)
We are officially into The Cassandra Crossing territory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ig-OeD3tI
We are living through a real disaster movie.
I have about a month's worth of food in my Brexit box. Water is a little low.
How long will I need to hide?
Finally he says he'd rather be accused of being overreacting and you're overreacting to what he said so yes you definitely are overreacting.
Ah a perfect example of Brexit voters.
But I'm really keen to hear about your medical credentials.
Should everyone else? Absolutely.
There is zero practical benefit to mass worrying at this stage, its impact would be negative to society rather than positive.
Which proved that the Conservatives were hated throughout the North.
We were told that this was so by people who had spent an afternoon in Manchester a few years earlier.
Against Trump: It could crash the economy
For Trump: He can make a big thing about keeping out foreigners
Against Trump: He will probably bollocks up the response
For Trump: He can quarantine people in Dem areas on election day
https://twitter.com/aaronzitner/status/1230870575968636928
According to the WSJ/NBC phone poll up to 29% of Afr.Am men will vote for Trump, but that's against Buttigieg.
Buttigieg will definitely break the fragile coalition between rich people and minorities.
And what have you got to show for it beyond a bog roll stockpile ?
He's also putting that thug Alli in his place as well.
I hope Mourinho is Spurs manager as long as Ole is United manager.
Remember that performance against City a few weeks ago.
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
Black Men 80:13
Black Women 94:4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics
The Latino vote shares would be interesting to see.
I didn't realise that West Germany paid all the bills for the BAOR presence and a united Germany carried on paying for British troops to be stationed well into the 1990s and beyond (cheaper having British troops in Germany than having to feed, clothe and house them in the UK)
“We have Cabinet Government. I am responsible for dealing with the floods and have been out talking to people and making sure they get the help they need. I have been keeping the Prime Minister fully informed so he is completely aware of what we are doing”
It’s Japan, Korea, Italy.
None of these countries seem institutionally or culturally well prepared for a pandemic.
Only when it suits Johnson.
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/statistics/population-estimates/pop-cob-18/pop-cob-nat-18-publication.pdf
People who first decided that Project Fear might be real on walking home from the polling station, not so much.
No.1 is in the process of happening.
No.2 is in the process of happening.
No.4 will be difficult because of the constitution.
And I will add a No.5: Massive collapse in trust towards government institutions.
But there unknowns, the massive crash in world trade and transportation would mean that everything will have to be made locally, we don't know the precice economic impact.
It will be an accelerant of trends towards Nationalism, Protectionism and Xenophobia that already exist.
Your passport was blue. But the dye darkens over time, so it now looks black. My mother’s passport from the 1960s is similar. The new passport is a much lighter blue than the old one ever was.
https://www.civilserviceworld.com/articles/news/home-office-insists-iconic-blue-uk-passports-are-not-black
You are forgetting the dozens of tins of baked beans.
This is the person you should listen to (this particular statement is old but it was the first I pulled up with google). I’ll worry when he gets worried.
https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/coronavirus-comment-expert-reaction-peter-piot
Levy is the main culprit, too mean to pay for Llorente to sit on the bench in case Kane and Son both injured means likely to cost tens of millions in lost revenue and CL kudos next year.
#BlameBorisForEverything.......
Am I a scaredy-cat for starting to think about my options?
That’s not to say he (Cummings) always gets his way, but neither did Blair and Thatcher in their pomp.
No other Cabinet Minister has a whit of power, save possibly Gove, and only then as a sort of backboy influencer since he lacks a big Department.
THE two people who were taken ill with coronavirus while staying at a York aparthotel have left hospital and thanked NHS staff for their care and support.
The pair, believed to be Chinese nationals, were taken to hospital by paramedics in hazmat suits from the StayCity aparthotel at the end of last month.
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/18244553.york-coronavirus-patients-leave-hospital/
News has to be relevant to people for them to take an interest.
Some people dying in a Chinese city people have never heard of isn't enough.
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/arizona/president
http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/AZ/president/#exit-polls
Trump got 42%, Romney 27%
I wonder if such an increase was caused by Catholic Hispanics not liking the Mormon Romney.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/
In 2004 they didn't do a breakdown by race in Arizona.
Or are you trying to make us characterise all Leavers as imperial nostalgists, when you are in fact the useful idiots of the forces of authoritarianism?
If Trump is winning Wisconsin by 11 he will also win all other Mid-Western states, even Illinois will be close.
If Trump is losing Pennsylvania by 8 he will also lose all other Mid-Western states, even Iowa will be close.
Instead just use the average in all 3 states, it's Trump -1 or something.
Skiing should be fine.
Look, this virus is clearly virulent and in the wrong circumstances can be dangerous. But it’s much less dangerous than Spanish flu and barely seems worse than standard flu. There is no reason for hysteria yet.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
Yeah, a lot of chaff around before votes are cast.
Smartest thing to do would be to keep McDonnell (at least he can handle an interview) and give him a weighty portfolio, then look to ditch the other fuckwits either straight away or once you've consolidated.
Not that I give a rat's arse about Labour until they embrace electoral reform.
1992 Clinton wins, 1997 Blair follows
2008 Obama wins, 2010 Cameron follows
2016 Brexit wins, 2016 Trump follows
2019 Corbyn trounced, 2020 Sanders follows...
What happens after that I wonder
Assuming we're all going to get it, what you really want is to catch it early, somewhere there is good medical care. If it becomes a pandemic and the medical systems are overwhelmed the mortality rate will leap from 0.5%ish to 4%ish at least as there simply aren't enough ICU beds.
Yikes!