The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
Blame game is Corbyn Vs Remain
SNP success blows Remain argument out of the water.
Remain party wins Remain country shock. Must be because they aren't radically left wing (except they are whenever it suits the argument)
Left wing party with "remain" leader wins all the seats. Left wing party with "neutral" leader leads party to the worst result since 1935.
I know you're circling the wagons around your man and there is nobility in that. But he is a total abject failure, whose ego has led to this moment.
I just don't understand how you can't see the difference between a party standing across constituencies that mostly went for Remain, versus one standing in seats across the spectrum, gaining in Remainy seats (possibly, we'll see) while losing massively in Leave or less ardent Renain seats. The SNP doesn't have these Leave areas to lose.
It looks like Labour will lose votes in Scotland to the SNP, just like it's losing them everywhere else.
Wake up, this is a total catastrophe for Labour. There is nothing good here. This has happened on Corbyn's watch, he is responsible.
Very easy to scapegoat, but you don't need to fight this battle, the left are undoubtedly gone from the field.
Facts are that the progressive parties shared a similar response to Brexit initially, to accept the result but try to make the best of it. SNP, LDs and Plaid all initially had a similar position to Corbyn. They switched to full on Remain2.0 parties only quite recently, and that because they wanted to target Labour Remainers, which is fair enough but a second referendum and Remain was never a viable strategy for the UK as a whole after 2016. It's the major difference in policy between Labour's decent showing in 2017 and its drubbing now, on the major political issue of the day. It wasn't because people suddenly realised Corbyn was a bit of a lefty between 2017 and now.
I think they only held it last time due to Greening - I knew several people there who are not natural conservatives but had a lot of time for her (don't know much about either candidate this time)
Kerching! One of my better bets - selling the LibDems on SPIN's 25-10-0 markets at 9.5, so even if the LibDems had managed second place I'd still have lost only 0.5 points.
A cynical person would egg people like them on to take control of the Labour party.
Bit late for that I think.
True, they have gone all culture wars which has only resulted in people like him....going even more all in on it. The way to help the working class Welsh is to call them white supremacists. Cummings will be rubbing his monkey paws.
Jess Phillips would be shite as leader. All she's done for the past 3 years is post sarcastic tweets without taking any action - I see no evidence she would be any better than Corbyn
One of the richest parts of the country is keen on Marxism.
As I argued in 2017, the people driving Corbynism are the children of the well-off middle classes. University educated but saddled in debt, living in "nice" places like Putney but renting four to a house with no hope of ever getting on the property ladder.
Corbynism was always a middle class youth rebellion about living standards not being equal to their parents.
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https://twitter.com/skyelections/status/1205303645211938817?s=20
Facts are that the progressive parties shared a similar response to Brexit initially, to accept the result but try to make the best of it. SNP, LDs and Plaid all initially had a similar position to Corbyn. They switched to full on Remain2.0 parties only quite recently, and that because they wanted to target Labour Remainers, which is fair enough but a second referendum and Remain was never a viable strategy for the UK as a whole after 2016. It's the major difference in policy between Labour's decent showing in 2017 and its drubbing now, on the major political issue of the day. It wasn't because people suddenly realised Corbyn was a bit of a lefty between 2017 and now.
SNP are going to make big inroads here.
Labour win
Tory vote share down 8.4%
That's majority of 64.
LOL.
Possibly with more honest financial arrangements.
Lab 22,780
Con 18,006
LD 8,548
Grn 1,133
Lab gain.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205304492989788161?s=20
Vale of Clwyd swing, 5.5% Lab to Con Maj 1827.
NE Wales looking good so far a clean sweep.
Checks results
Drinks more Champagne
Heads back to bed for another hour or two.
BREAKING NEWS!
Strangford : Jim Shannon (D.U.P) has retained his seat.
The SNP will win almost all seats with around 44-45% of the vote.
First result beating the exit poll.
perhaps the remain alliance helped here
Corbynism was always a middle class youth rebellion about living standards not being equal to their parents.
Belfast East : Sources say Gavin Robinson (D.U.P) will hold his seat.