How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
I have decided that the driver behind these movements, to NOM and against Tory Maj, and a lower pound.... is simply the reports of higher turnout. It can't be anything else?!
And that could just be a function of the season and the weather.
Turnout, predictably, described as "brisk" when I voted about an hour ago in Harrogate. Ended up voting for the Yorkshire party, because I couldn't face spoiling my ballot, or voting for any of the usual clown shoes masquerading as serious politicians.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
There is a weather window coming into.London at about 5.30 tonight where its clearing up. People even after being knocked up are saying on the doorstep they will wait for the rain to.ease..if it doesnt then the results could be pretty skewed as voters warm and snug in their homes decide to stay there
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
I saw a poster for a book she's written about inspiring women from Boudicca to Yvette Cooper.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
OK boomer.
hoho. Just keep following the herd if it makes you feel better.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
Looking at all the turnout reports, turnout seems to be way up in London but not outside of London.
Beyond the M25 there is silence.
I'd love to see some shots of some of those youth-populated queues outside voting stations from very early this morning, which as dusk descends I suspect are now totally deserted. *** Tumbleweed *** It's amazing really what little value the younger generation places on their time. They're clearly not destined to become plumbers or electricians in their mature years.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
What I don't get is why her parents are not protecting her from herself? She is clearly a vulnerable soul that has become a brand to be manipulated by cynical people. Like a female Scandanavian William Hague without the wit but with a better PR manager.
Turnout, predictably, described as "brisk" when I voted about an hour ago in Harrogate. Ended up voting for the Yorkshire party, because I couldn't face spoiling my ballot, or voting for any of the usual clown shoes masquerading as serious politicians.
Voted at 3PM, took a brolly as it is raining here. Polling station as quiet as usual, no other voters. Turnout apparently up slightly but staff thought this was due to people wanting to vote before it gets dark and the weather turns a little nastier.
This is in Amber Valley, a former bellwether that is now a safe Conservative seat. Not sure it tells us much other than people voting earlier than normal.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
My rule of thumb is adding 7% to the leader of the opposition on the preffered PM figures from Mori.
It worked really well last time, May was leading by 11, so it gave me a Conservative lead of 4.
Now it says Boris leads by 14, so I think the Conservative lead is 7.
Turnout, predictably, described as "brisk" when I voted about an hour ago in Harrogate. Ended up voting for the Yorkshire party, because I couldn't face spoiling my ballot, or voting for any of the usual clown shoes masquerading as serious politicians.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
The final Survation in 2017 had a 1% Tory lead, the final Survation now has an 11% Tory lead.
In 2017 Yougov MRP forecast a hung parliament it now forecasts a Tory majority
Voted at 3PM, took a brolly as it is raining here. Polling station as quiet as usual, no other voters. Turnout apparently up slightly but staff thought this was due to people wanting to vote before it gets dark and the weather turns a little nastier.
This is in Amber Valley, a former bellwether that is now a safe Conservative seat. Not sure it tells us much other than people voting earlier than normal.
I shouldn't worry. It probably just means all those people in queues are voting Labour.
Agreed, but given the reference was to Swinson we are talking Con/LD seats where Corbyn does not matter.
I thought the whole point of voting tactically for LibDems was to deny the Tories a majority. In which case the only alternative is getting Corbyn as PM.
Logic failure, I think, Mr Rose. Another alternative is to deny an overall majority to both of them. If the Lib Dems do well today, and hold the balance of power, then neither the Tories nor Labour can run amok with their own pet - extremist - policies. This would be good for the country.
I fear that denying an overall majority to both of them will pretty quickly end in us doing all this over again.
With the same leaders, would you say?
Good question! I'd say Corbyn would stay in those circumstances, Boris would be quickly and quietly replaced by the Saj (or equivalent) and Jo - if the LibDems do well as posited in the earlier question - then she'll be around as well. If the LibDems are sub-20 I think Jo will be gone by about this time tomorrow.
Agree that 20+ will see her safe. 15 will see her safe but with grumbling. 12 or fewer she'll be gone.
Betfair currently has Ed Davey and Layla Moran on similar odds for next leader - not really worth the bet IMO. Everyone else a long way behind, presumably reflecting the fact that Chuka looks unlikely to get elected right now.
She certainly does. I always assumed she was a front for some eco organization but maybe it's just a revenue stream based on "brand Greta" they are interested in. Does anyone on here know what / who is behind her? Not just pushy parents presumably ...
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
The final Survation in 2017 had a 1% Tory lead, the final Survation now has an 11% Tory lead.
In 2017 Yougov MRP forecast a hung parliament it now forecasts a Tory majority
£ -0.53%, somebody got people counting at polling stations?
Turnout here in London is absolutely on fire! These are Labour voters not tory (ethnic minorities- could save Labour seats in the north/Midlands if repeated there)
How far away from a polling station do you have to be to be allowed to handout political leaflets? There is some video this morning of Labour campaigners handing out vote Faiza Shaheen leaflets to people going in to vote at the entrance to a polling station in Redbridge.
Outside "a circle with a radius of 250 metres from the main entrance of a polling station."
The guy in the video was about 25 feet from the door and stopping people as they were going in.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
PC or not, the girls at my daughter's secondary school compete for the best Greta impressions, not complimentary.
This is the optimist's guide to potential results:
Tory landslide: Laugh at Corbyn Small Tory majority: Laugh at Bozo for being in the same position as TMay Hung parliament: Laugh at Boris fanbois Corbyn win: laugh insanely and kill oneself!
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
PC or not, the girls at my daughter's secondary school compete for the best Greta impressions, not complimentary.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
PC or not, the girls at my daughter's secondary school compete for the best Greta impressions, not complimentary.
I have decided that the driver behind these movements, to NOM and against Tory Maj, and a lower pound.... is simply the reports of higher turnout. It can't be anything else?!
And that could just be a function of the season and the weather.
But may balance itself out if turnout drops this evening.
How far away from a polling station do you have to be to be allowed to handout political leaflets? There is some video this morning of Labour campaigners handing out vote Faiza Shaheen leaflets to people going in to vote at the entrance to a polling station in Redbridge.
Outside "a circle with a radius of 250 metres from the main entrance of a polling station."
The guy in the video was about 25 feet from the door and stopping people as they were going in.
250 metres would exclude loads of area - sounds a bit extreme.
Voted at 3PM, took a brolly as it is raining here. Polling station as quiet as usual, no other voters. Turnout apparently up slightly but staff thought this was due to people wanting to vote before it gets dark and the weather turns a little nastier.
This is in Amber Valley, a former bellwether that is now a safe Conservative seat. Not sure it tells us much other than people voting earlier than normal.
Do we have any evidence turnout is up outside big cities and university towns?
Last election Liverpool smashed it in was 1983 and 1987.
OMG, that really is a bad omen! Tory landslide. Aghh!
We'll have the prospect of Leeds United storming it in 5 to 10 years !
That will coincide with a three day week and the power cuts. Nah, Corbyn will be well gone after his third attempt...unless of course the lights go off because Boris' Brexit really is a shambles.
She certainly does. I always assumed she was a front for some eco organization but maybe it's just a revenue stream based on "brand Greta" they are interested in. Does anyone on here know what / who is behind her? Not just pushy parents presumably ...
This is the optimist's guide to potential results:
Tory landslide: Laugh at Corbyn Small Tory majority: Laugh at Bozo for being in the same position as TMay Hung parliament: Laugh at Boris fanbois Corbyn win: laugh insanely and kill oneself!
A small Tory majority is the same position as Cameron not May
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
PC or not, the girls at my daughter's secondary school compete for the best Greta impressions, not complimentary.
A little bit of weakness in GBP vs USD/EUR but well within a normal days trading range.
If the exit poll shows a HP there will an almighty plunge.
Indeed. I assume if Con Maj then there will be a slight fall tomorrow (buy on the rumour, sell on the fact) and then I'll trade out all that remains and I'll be done for the year.
How can someone so young become so arrogant and smug? I am begining to believe in reincarnation; she must have been an angry old man in a previous life.
She is somewhere on the autistic scale. One of my cricket colleagues is similarly diagnosed. He has a successful career but a similar personality. Managing him when I was skipper was a nightmare.
PC or not, the girls at my daughter's secondary school compete for the best Greta impressions, not complimentary.
£ -0.53%, somebody got people counting at polling stations?
And the FTSE is up 1.13%. These are very normal daily moves.
What would be abnormal?
Well for example immediately after the vote to leave, the FTSE 100 index fell by 8% and £ lost 11% against the $.
Is it comparable? If turnout worries are influencing a small percentage of holders, would you expect a precipitous drop or a small decline over the next few hours?
This is the optimist's guide to potential results:
Tory landslide: Laugh at Corbyn Small Tory majority: Laugh at Bozo for being in the same position as TMay Hung parliament: Laugh at Boris fanbois Corbyn win: laugh insanely and kill oneself!
A small Tory majority is the same position as Cameron not May
Au contraire. A small majority for Bozo will be exactly the same as no other party will touch the lying bastard with a barge pole
£ -0.53%, somebody got people counting at polling stations?
And the FTSE is up 1.13%. These are very normal daily moves.
What would be abnormal?
Well for example immediately after the vote to leave, the FTSE 100 index fell by 8% and £ lost 11% against the $.
Is it comparable? If turnout worries are influencing a small percentage of holders, would you expect a precipitous drop or a small decline over the next few hours?
I take it there is a lot of nervousness, but changes of < 1% happen every day. There are loads of bits of news that move the needle e.g. Trump has back on China Tariff stuff today.
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And that could just be a function of the season and the weather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4tD2Hbg_A
FTSE 100 and 250 are moving in tandem so not election related.
Forex still doing nothing of note.
And do you get a medal for becoming a British citizen?
I think I got that right.
On the eve of election last time around, the average Tory lead was 6.64%. In reality, the results came in with a Tory lead of just 2.4%, 64% lower than the average. If the percentage difference is the same between polls and reality this time, it will mean an eventual Tory lead of 3.5%.
It's amazing really what little value the younger generation places on their time. They're clearly not destined to become plumbers or electricians in their mature years.
Voted at 3PM, took a brolly as it is raining here. Polling station as quiet as usual, no other voters. Turnout apparently up slightly but staff thought this was due to people wanting to vote before it gets dark and the weather turns a little nastier.
This is in Amber Valley, a former bellwether that is now a safe Conservative seat. Not sure it tells us much other than people voting earlier than normal.
It worked really well last time, May was leading by 11, so it gave me a Conservative lead of 4.
Now it says Boris leads by 14, so I think the Conservative lead is 7.
In 2017 Yougov MRP forecast a hung parliament it now forecasts a Tory majority
Betfair currently has Ed Davey and Layla Moran on similar odds for next leader - not really worth the bet IMO. Everyone else a long way behind, presumably reflecting the fact that Chuka looks unlikely to get elected right now.
She won't be such a smart ar$$ next time.
15:51 - sunset, London. One second later than tomorrow, which is the earliest sunset of the year.
Tory landslide: Laugh at Corbyn
Small Tory majority: Laugh at Bozo for being in the same position as TMay
Hung parliament: Laugh at Boris fanbois
Corbyn win: laugh insanely and kill oneself!
You're going to ask aren't you - "which wing?"
But may balance itself out if turnout drops this evening.
Although, I'm not quite sure what powers Varicose Vein man would have....
IDS' son was out with us, a charming criminal barrister
Beautiful sky now but quite cold and windy.
BONG!!!!!
Lab 35% on Betfair is very close to 36% GB.
I would have thought something like Con 41.5%, Lab 35.8% (GB) could give a Hung Parliament.