Once you have made those corrections, I think it would be interesting to know how many UK soldiers were lost, and how many foreign casualties were caused by UK troops in the various interventions.
It's not just the KIAs on the battlefield. In Iraq II I regularly used to fly the same patrol of Booties around in a Lynx with a gearbox made of parmesan. They were all much younger than me - I was in my early 30s, they were 18-20 years old. All four of them made it home from Basra and all four of them are now dead - alcohol, drugs or suicide.
I am very, very sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, this never seems to be a high priority for any Govt.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
What the bloody hell are you on about? Prices have been going down for years in Tesco. And the other supermarkets too.
Incidentally, sorry if this was posted hours ago. But although I'm not generally a fan of James Corden, I think he does quite well as Boris Johnson here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBjGD5VGVg0
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
I've just heard the BBC report that Sturgeon thinks the Scottish people should determine whether there is another Indyref, rather than Westminister. Isn't that a referendum to decide whether to have a referendum? The only way out of that is to have another referendum.
Any referendum can only be considered after Holyrood 2021
That Holyrood election will provide a mandate or otherwise to request a referendum and HMG will need to consider it carefully
It is interesting to note that in the latest Scots opinion poll SNP = 39% Pro Union = 60%
Food for thought there
I think you should get out more.
I suspect I know more about politics in Scotland but if you can debunk the latest poll on Scotland please do so
Have to say G , I am at a loss as to how you arrive at everybody in Scotland who does not say they vote SNP being pro union. Reality is that it is about 50/50 on independence/union currently and too close to call. Will be completely different story once it is about independence and not a Westminster brexit election. Once we exit EU , expect a move away from union for certain.
We do disagree on this Malc but I am content for HMG to grant the referendum if Scotland votes for the SNP in a majority in the 2021 Holyrood election
No amount of demanding from the SNP for it before then will see the HOC conceding, there is not the support
Also March 2020 and the Salmond trial may have all sorts of implications for the SNP
There absolutely zero chance whatsoever the Tories would agree to a referendum prior to the 2021 vote. Saying no to another referendum will be the SCON platform in 2021.
I agree 2021 will be critical. An SNP majority would give a mandate IMO.
Sanders is a fundamentally decent man, who can be a bit cranky when railing against a system that generally locks out even his more plausible political desires, Corbyn is a genuine crank, and a dangerous one at that.
I totally agree with that. I find the Sanders and Corbyn comparisons laughable, as Sanders appears to be a completely decent man. Equally I find the Trump and Johnson comparison ridiculous, as nothing Boris has ever said or done comes even close to the things Trump has been repeatedly accused of.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
What the bloody hell are you on about? Prices have been going down for years in Tesco. And the other supermarkets too.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
Because I'd much rather live in a country that accepts a degree of occasional rudeness as the price of free speech, rather than in the thought-police state you seem to crave.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
The astroturfers are the worst part of PB at election time.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
"Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3."
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Your linguistic use is very similar to miss scarlet. Are you related?
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
What the bloody hell are you on about? Prices have been going down for years in Tesco. And the other supermarkets too.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Your linguistic use is very similar to miss scarlet. Are you related?
I don't trust anyone who puts the pound symbol after the cash amount.
I've just heard the BBC report that Sturgeon thinks the Scottish people should determine whether there is another Indyref, rather than Westminister. Isn't that a referendum to decide whether to have a referendum? The only way out of that is to have another referendum.
Any referendum can only be considered after Holyrood 2021
That Holyrood election will provide a mandate or otherwise to request a referendum and HMG will need to consider it carefully
It is interesting to note that in the latest Scots opinion poll SNP = 39% Pro Union = 60%
Food for thought there
I think you should get out more.
I suspect I know more about politics in Scotland but if you can debunk the latest poll on Scotland please do so
Have to say G , I am at a loss as to how you arrive at everybody in Scotland who does not say they vote SNP being pro union. Reality is that it is about 50/50 on independence/union currently and too close to call. Will be completely different story once it is about independence and not a Westminster brexit election. Once we exit EU , expect a move away from union for certain.
We do disagree on this Malc but I am content for HMG to grant the referendum if Scotland votes for the SNP in a majority in the 2021 Holyrood election
No amount of demanding from the SNP for it before then will see the HOC conceding, there is not the support
Also March 2020 and the Salmond trial may have all sorts of implications for the SNP
For Sturgeon perhaps.
Yes limvalents. I do wonder how she will be drawn into it but it will be very interesting but distressing for many involved personally
The London gutterpress rags will be all over it for sure and their limp Scottish equivalents.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
? Food prices are really low in this country. It`s a very competitive market.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
In the long run, this site needs a better balance of left and right- not least for the limited and mercenary reason of some posters wanting more clear-sighted predictions for their betting - so conversely I hope Miss Scarlett or others like her will stay. She's putting her views no more forcefully than a number of posters on the hard right around these parts.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
What the bloody hell are you on about? Prices have been going down for years in Tesco. And the other supermarkets too.
America and Murdoch will watching the election very closely - Johnson\Corbyn could be Trump\Sanders in November 2020.
Only difference is that the sanders progressive wing have an active media voice that holds Trump to account and won't tolerate lies (trump has a lie tracker over 15000). The UK press across print, radio and television have been utterly shameless in their bias at getting Johnson elected. The BBC needs a massive clear out.. To many diehard Tories in senior positions.
No. The main differences are that while Sanders is very left-wing, he hasn't succumbed to the far left moral turpitude that has led to Corbyn spending his entire political career supporting vile antisemites, left-wing dictators, and some of the nastiest people on the planet, providing it's the west (as well as their own people) they're being nasty to. Secondly, Sanders is trying to drag a system that's an at the extremes of a market economy one, that has personal rights over collective endeavour woven into the fabric of its polity, towards European social democracy, which even if you think it won't work in the US system (even if elected he'll probably be blocked by a likely Republican Senate), isn't a terrible idea of and in itself, America can afford universal healthcare and cheaper tuition. Corbyn on the other hand, wants something between full socialism and corporatism that's pretty much a fantasy because it promises the benefits of the former with none of the drawbacks and institutional problems.
Sanders is a fundamentally decent man, who can be a bit cranky when railing against a system that generally locks out even his more plausible political desires, Corbyn is a genuine crank, and a dangerous one at that.
Sanders has endorsed Jeremy Corbyn Progressives Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Krystal Ball, The Young Turks, Michael Brooks, Sam seder, Jimmy Dore have endorsed Corbyn. Go on YouTube watch their coverage, the movement to stop corrupt corporate media and politicians selling out to corrupt lobbyists is over. Neo liberalism is dead.
Corbyn wants the same economic system as France and Germany. Progressives are tired of the bullshit from billionaire press barons, establishment media. Poverty must end. Workers must have rights. Homelessness must end. Politicians fighting for corrupt TWX avoiding billionaires and companies are destroying our society.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Could you explain it a bit better? I'm keen to try
Yes. So you tell me a little about you, your parents, and your grandparents - just pretend we're chatting over a coffee - and I will process and revert with your score between 6 (max oik) and 18 (max posh).
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
"Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3."
Fuck me - I`m voting Tory now
The E92 M3 GTS was the best M3. I wouldn't even vote tory for one of those in Feuerorange.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Reggie, are you generally an a hole or do you really try real hard?
Could you explain it a bit better? I'm keen to try
Yes. So you tell me a little about you, your parents, and your grandparents - just pretend we're chatting over a coffee - and I will process and revert with your score between 6 (max oik) and 18 (max posh).
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
Not publicly! Just explain how the process works
I score my grandparents 1, 2 or 3 as a whole on overall social status? Or by occupation, finances and some third category?
Could you explain it a bit better? I'm keen to try
Yes. So you tell me a little about you, your parents, and your grandparents - just pretend we're chatting over a coffee - and I will process and revert with your score between 6 (max oik) and 18 (max posh).
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
Actually, I think I've just worked it out!
I'm 14. Which is also my mental age, so that's neat
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
In the long run, this site needs a better balance of left and right- not least for the limited and mercenary reason of some posters wanting more clear-sighted predictions for their betting - so conversely I hope Miss Scarlett or others like her will stay. She's putting her views no more forcefully than a number of posters on the hard right around these parts.
Could you explain it a bit better? I'm keen to try
Yes. So you tell me a little about you, your parents, and your grandparents - just pretend we're chatting over a coffee - and I will process and revert with your score between 6 (max oik) and 18 (max posh).
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
Nan and grandad one - part time shop assistant and road digger for the gpo to lay cables Nan and grandad two - housewife and bus driver Mum and dad - insurance claims handler/worked in a cafe and loss adjuster/ran a pub/storeman at a steel erection company Me - insurance claims, bank admin and team manager/ran a pub now on disability benefits and not working
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Just go to your workplace and use the same language Boris uses to describe people and let me know what the response was. I dare you to cal a Muslim at a work a letterbox. I dare you to call a single mother 'ill raised, illegitimate' or a gay guy a bumboy.
Your voting for him to do a job and this is the language he uses so use it.
America and Murdoch will watching the election very closely - Johnson\Corbyn could be Trump\Sanders in November 2020.
Only difference is that the sanders progressive wing have an active media voice that holds Trump to account and won't tolerate lies (trump has a lie tracker over 15000). The UK press across print, radio and television have been utterly shameless in their bias at getting Johnson elected. The BBC needs a massive clear out.. To many diehard Tories in senior positions.
No. The main differences are that while Sanders is very left-wing, he hasn't succumbed to the far left moral turpitude that has led to Corbyn spending his entire political career supporting vile antisemites, left-wing dictators, and some of the nastiest people on the planet, providing it's the west (as well as their own people) they're being nasty to. Secondly, Sanders is trying to drag a system that's an at the extremes of a market economy one, that has personal rights over collective endeavour woven into the fabric of its polity, towards European social democracy, which even if you think it won't work in the US system (even if elected he'll probably be blocked by a likely Republican Senate), isn't a terrible idea of and in itself, America can afford universal healthcare and cheaper tuition. Corbyn on the other hand, wants something between full socialism and corporatism that's pretty much a fantasy because it promises the benefits of the former with none of the drawbacks and institutional problems.
Sanders is a fundamentally decent man, who can be a bit cranky when railing against a system that generally locks out even his more plausible political desires, Corbyn is a genuine crank, and a dangerous one at that.
Sanders has endorsed Jeremy Corbyn Progressives Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Krystal Ball, The Young Turks, Michael Brooks, Sam seder, Jimmy Dore have endorsed Corbyn. Go on YouTube watch their coverage, the movement to stop corrupt corporate media and politicians selling out to corrupt lobbyists is over. Neo liberalism is dead.
The US "progressive" channels are generally pretty good on US politics, but know close to fuck all about anywhere else. It will come as a huge surprise to them if Boris hangs on - the Young Turks recently described him as "as far right as it gets", which is comical given that Boris is to the left of the US President, the entire Republican Party, and the majority of the Democrats. In fact, with his support for a single-payer health system, strict gun controls, and pro-choice stance, he'd probably qualify as a progressive in the US!
Once you have made those corrections, I think it would be interesting to know how many UK soldiers were lost, and how many foreign casualties were caused by UK troops in the various interventions.
It's not just the KIAs on the battlefield. In Iraq II I regularly used to fly the same patrol of Booties around in a Lynx with a gearbox made of parmesan. They were all much younger than me - I was in my early 30s, they were 18-20 years old. All four of them made it home from Basra and all four of them are now dead - alcohol, drugs or suicide.
I am very, very sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, this never seems to be a high priority for any Govt.
The MoD has a £15bn black hole in the budget for the next four years. It's safe to say that the mental health of ex-squaddies isn't going to feature very highly on the list of priorities.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Perhaps you'd like to provide some data to back that claim up.
According to the ONS food prices have increased 13% since 2010.
Whereas in the nine years before 2010 food prices increased by 34%.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Reggie, are you generally an a hole or do you really try real hard?
Could you explain it a bit better? I'm keen to try
Yes. So you tell me a little about you, your parents, and your grandparents - just pretend we're chatting over a coffee - and I will process and revert with your score between 6 (max oik) and 18 (max posh).
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Your linguistic use is very similar to miss scarlet. Are you related?
Or does the truth hurt? Bojo may just fail to get a majority. Thats should cause a lot of grief on this site.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
So you'll be very happy to get Brexit done with the resulting cost reductions for food,footwear & clothing due UK no longer having to apply EU restrictive tariffs & quotas.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
In the long run, this site needs a better balance of left and right- not least for the limited and mercenary reason of some posters wanting more clear-sighted predictions for their betting - so conversely I hope Miss Scarlett or others like her will stay. She's putting her views no more forcefully than a number of posters on the hard right around these parts.
I have no problem with her staying and hope she does
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Reggie, are you generally an a hole or do you really try real hard?
Should that be "in a hole"? If so, no. You obviously live in one, your vision being so impaired.
I am genuinely surprised we haven't had another big Labour giveaway yet.
They may have come to the end of the rope with this. My guess is they will focus on trust to try to discredit Johnson. I do wonder whether some lurid story may be revealed late in the campaign.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Reggie, are you generally an a hole or do you really try real hard?
I think you replied on the wrong account
LOL! Don't worry he can accept his 20¥ I mean 20£ and forget all these account logins in a few days time.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Your linguistic use is very similar to miss scarlet. Are you related?
Or does the truth hurt? Bojo may just fail to get a majority. Thats should cause a lot of grief on this site.
Not causing me remote grief, we get the government we vote for and accept it. I happen to think he'll get a landslide
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
"Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3."
Fuck me - I`m voting Tory now
The E92 M3 GTS was the best M3. I wouldn't even vote tory for one of those in Feuerorange.
Blond, messy hair, prone to fat, little piggy eyes, shirt hanging out?
CCHQ is making a feature of Boris's trademark dishevelled look. Trademark because he tousles his hair before appearing on camera, and he could easily afford suits and shirts that properly fit. Boris's photo ops this election invariably show him mucking in with the workers, with protective clothing or jacket off and sleeves rolled up (but not neatly).
It is clearly a deliberate tactic, and one that runs counter to the Cameron's mum advice taken by Corbyn and previous prime ministers (and Donald Trump, who always looks immaculate). It will be interesting after the election to read a 75,000-word blog post from Dominic Cummings explaining the rationale.
Not so sure about "interesting".
It worked in London in 2008..his silhouette as a disheveled Boris was everywhere..Oyster card holders etc..
I am genuinely surprised we haven't had another big Labour giveaway yet.
Me too. It got me wondering if even the Labour Party is now realising that these bungs are become incredible. If that's the case they might be waiting until the last moment to see what the polls say. I would guess that Tuesday would be the last day for deploying the MOAB (Mother Of All Bungs).
OK. So let us say that you did that properly and got a rounded 16.
You are solid but unspectacular upper class.
I would say simply upper-middle class. Upper class in my mind requires titles, or at least major landholding and a far greater love of shooting and riding to hounds than I have interest in...
Well, if you're representative of Labour activists, then disowning them and telling them to commit an impossible sexual act with themselves if they vote Tory this time might help keep them in the Tory camp a little bit longer.
Wouldn't say I'm disowning them. They are welcome to reform and return. But we mustn't pander.
I am genuinely surprised we haven't had another big Labour giveaway yet.
The reason why Labour are losing this election - and losing it badly - is because they want to. As life-long Marxists Corbyn and McDonnell have no interest in managing a constitutional government in a capitalist system. Their core belief is in "revolution" (details to follow) in which the proletariat overwhelms the bourgeoisie. In the meantime the "progressive" strategy is to make impossible demands on "the system" to expose capitalism's inability to satisfy all the people all of the time. That's why their manifesto reads like a Socialist Worker tract from the 1970s fomenting an industrial dispute, rather than a serious programme for national government. Needless to say, keeping the proles perpetually dissatisfied is an essential part of the struggle.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
I expect your posting on here will end on friday
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
In the long run, this site needs a better balance of left and right- not least for the limited and mercenary reason of some posters wanting more clear-sighted predictions for their betting - so conversely I hope Miss Scarlett or others like her will stay. She's putting her views no more forcefully than a number of posters on the hard right around these parts.
Agreed, though I think the number of posts is very much a function of which parties are doing well. E.g., after the party conference season, there were lots of ecstatic LibDem posters on here, etc.
So, the balance between left and right is better than it seems at the moment, when the Tories are so clearly in the ascendency in the polls (and almost certainly heading for an election win). Many of the rest of us are too depressed to post.
Of course, the point that Miss Scarlett makes is correct -- most of us would be suspended, pending disciplinary action, if we used language like that.
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
My home town - the local Facebook gossip suggests that the presence of the BXP bloke will enable Labour to hold. It last had a Tory MP in 1963 - Paul Williams when it was Sunderland south. Pity - I'd love to see it in the blue column.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Just go to your workplace and use the same language Boris uses to describe people and let me know what the response was. I dare you to cal a Muslim at a work a letterbox. I dare you to call a single mother 'ill raised, illegitimate' or a gay guy a bumboy.
Your voting for him to do a job and this is the language he uses so use it.
I was just trying to be helpful. There's no need for the nastiness that you pretend to abhor.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
What the bloody hell are you on about? Prices have been going down for years in Tesco. And the other supermarkets too.
I wonder if there's a chart of new ID profiles registered on PB and how that compares over time to electoral cycles, just how big is the rise around election night - also their geographic location would be interesting too?
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
Is it acceptable for a political party to be referred to the Equality & Human Rights Commission due to serious allegations of racism, the only other party that has managed that is the BNP.
Are there any Tories canvassing in the north/midlands "red wall'? How is it going in the last couple of days? Feeling confident?
Plenty of anecdotal stuff on Twitter about how horrible it is for Labour.
Corbyn.
My wife had a Labour canvasser around the door this week in Dundee West. She told her that she couldn't vote for Corbyn. Nice woman, intelligent, middle class, strongly anti-SNP (on which they did bond) but she admitted that she was getting an awful lot of that. Chris Law is nailed on and just might be heading higher in the party.
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
I'm on that with the exchange at great odds.
Did it off the back off @dyedwoolie tip. He can be quite astute when he stays off the alt-right culture war nonsense.
I am genuinely surprised we haven't had another big Labour giveaway yet.
They may have come to the end of the rope with this. My guess is they will focus on trust to try to discredit Johnson. I do wonder whether some lurid story may be revealed late in the campaign.
How much would commitment to reducing the interest on current student loans to 0% cost?
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
I'm on that with the exchange at great odds.
Did it off the back off @dyedwoolie tip. He can be quite astute when he stays off the alt-right culture war nonsense.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Just go to your workplace and use the same language Boris uses to describe people and let me know what the response was. I dare you to cal a Muslim at a work a letterbox. I dare you to call a single mother 'ill raised, illegitimate' or a gay guy a bumboy.
Your voting for him to do a job and this is the language he uses so use it.
Bojo was fired from two jobs, for lying. Even his one time best mate, David Cameroon called him a greased piglet "The greased piglet manages to slip through other people's hands where mere mortals fail," the ex-PM tells an audience. Bojo intentionally uses racist language for two reasons. One, like the Sun shit tabloid has shown, racism sells, specially against Muslims. Two, he knows he can get away with it. This whole campaign has daily updates on 'Corbyn the anti semite'.Hardly anyone speaks about Boris, the racist. Sadly, this man, like Trump, has made racism, specially towards Muslims and blacks, socially acceptable.
I came here and tell you that when I was young boy I buy everything I need in Tesco for less than 10 roubles.
Now because your Capitalist running dogs Winston Churchill, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Theresa May and Boris Johnson I buy only half bag of food for tenth price.
Please believe me and vote for Comrade Corbyn! Friendship, Progress and Peace Between Glorious Peoples!
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
It will be a bloodbath for Labour in the Midlands. Corbyn's support for the IRA may not resonate so much in other parts of the country, but here it is utterly toxic.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
Perhaps you'd like to provide some data to back that claim up.
According to the ONS food prices have increased 13% since 2010.
Whereas in the nine years before 2010 food prices increased by 34%.
Me too. That is someone of poor and uneducated stock who has remained resolutely poor and uneducated.
Likely voting next week to Get Brexit Done.
The humorous bit for me was the perverse relationship between the gold reference and the bottom of the pile status (oik). Your observation shows that the humour was unintentional, which is reassuring.
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
I'm on that with the exchange at great odds.
Did it off the back off @dyedwoolie tip. He can be quite astute when he stays off the alt-right culture war nonsense.
Yeah but it makes for some fun rough and tumble too, right?!
It is actually the SLab 21% that concerns me most. That is their best Scottish poll showing since April. Looks like Labour are peaking just right and the Lib Dems are dipping at just the wrong moment.
Our only consolation is that Panelbase has the SNP at 39% in October too, when other pollsters had us in the low 40s.
The heavy media focus on the Con vs Lab fight has, as usual, misled many voters.
However, I’m increasingly optimistic that the SCons are getting support in the wrong areas: building up for some fantastic second places throughout the Central Belt.
How has it misled voters ?
Because there is not one single Con/Lab contest in the whole of Scotland.
Zero out of 59 constituencies.
Labour held East Lothian? Although I would accept that this time around it is really a fight between the Tories and the SNP with the SNP likely to come out on top.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
You really are angry aren't you. Did you forget your medication? Just trying to be helpful.
Just go to your workplace and use the same language Boris uses to describe people and let me know what the response was. I dare you to cal a Muslim at a work a letterbox. I dare you to call a single mother 'ill raised, illegitimate' or a gay guy a bumboy.
Your voting for him to do a job and this is the language he uses so use it.
Bojo was fired from two jobs, for lying. Even his one time best mate, David Cameroon called him a greased piglet "The greased piglet manages to slip through other people's hands where mere mortals fail," the ex-PM tells an audience.
My God. Knowing about David Cameron's porcine predilections ("Gettin' Jiggy wid a Piggy") one would have hoped that he would never use the words "piglet" and "greased" in the same sentence again. Has the man no shame?
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
I'm on that with the exchange at great odds.
Did it off the back off @dyedwoolie tip. He can be quite astute when he stays off the alt-right culture war nonsense.
Mr Woolie is a veritable sage
Oh tish and fye. I'm just an angry middle aged goober who has a head on his knackered old shoulders
I am genuinely surprised we haven't had another big Labour giveaway yet.
They may have come to the end of the rope with this. My guess is they will focus on trust to try to discredit Johnson. I do wonder whether some lurid story may be revealed late in the campaign.
How much would commitment to reducing the interest on current student loans to 0% cost?
To be honest - you won`t like this - the interest rate is largely irrelevant. It is a designed to be a graduate tax which expires after 30 years. Best not thought of as a loan. You`d need to be earning ten times average earnings or something to repay prior to 30 years. See calc on moneysavingexpert.
I recently heard one suggestion to lower the rate of interest but extend the term from 30 to 40 years. This would be worse.
Given the Labour collapse in the North, where will the biggest Labour majority be after Thursday? Is it likely to be in London? If so, Holborn and St Pancras might be the winner.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
So you'll be very happy to get Brexit done with the resulting cost reductions for food,footwear & clothing due UK no longer having to apply EU restrictive tariffs & quotas.
Brexit was not about economics. It was more about immigration, or fear of immigration, nostalgia from pensioners and the working class revolting, after 6 years of Tory austerity. Take back control, is basically control in the hands of Rees Mogg and fellow aristocrats. Who ideally would like children to be going up the chimney and not the social ladder. Be real!
Me too. That is someone of poor and uneducated stock who has remained resolutely poor and uneducated.
Likely voting next week to Get Brexit Done.
The humorous bit for me was the perverse relationship between the gold reference and the bottom of the pile status (oik). Your observation shows that the humour was unintentional, which is reassuring.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
So you'll be very happy to get Brexit done with the resulting cost reductions for food,footwear & clothing due UK no longer having to apply EU restrictive tariffs & quotas.
Brexit was not about economics. It was more about immigration, or fear of immigration, nostalgia from pensioners and the working class revolting, after 6 years of Tory austerity. Take back control, is basically control in the hands of Rees Mogg and fellow aristocrats. Who ideally would like children to be going up the chimney and not the social ladder. Be real!
Is there actually any point posting things like this here?
I think Sunderland Central is a very interesting bet.
The trouble is that it's only at the extremes of the YouGov MRP model that it shows it as a Tory win, by 39-38%, and it requires just over a 10% swing.
But, at 9/2 with Hills, I agree - worth a punt.
My home town - the local Facebook gossip suggests that the presence of the BXP bloke will enable Labour to hold. It last had a Tory MP in 1963 - Paul Williams when it was Sunderland south. Pity - I'd love to see it in the blue column.
I think it's a good value loser.
Disclosure: my betting strategy is based on seeking value at the margins, both hung parliament and Tory landslide, and not herding in the 340-355 seat middle.
I came here and tell you that when I was young boy I buy everything I need in Tesco for less than 10 roubles.
Now because your Capitalist running dogs Winston Churchill, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Theresa May and Boris Johnson I buy only half bag of food for tenth price.
Please believe me and vote for Comrade Corbyn! Friendship, Progress and Peace Between Glorious Peoples!
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
It will be a bloodbath for Labour in the Midlands. Corbyn's support for the IRA may not resonate so much in other parts of the country, but here it is utterly toxic.
Why do you think it is resonating this time, but didn't last time? In 2017, the papers went massive on terrorist sympathising, this time it is antisemitism and much less about his IRA mates. I honestly presumed the terrorist stuff was just now all factored in.
The humorous bit for me was the perverse relationship between the gold reference and the bottom of the pile status (oik). Your observation shows that the humour was unintentional, which is reassuring.
But this one was for a different audience. I'm a crossover artist.
Tomorrow I would like you to go to your workplace and do the following - call all single mothers 'ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate. - Muslim women "letterboxes" and "bank robbers" - Gay men "bumboys. - Black people " piccaninnies" - Voting Conservative will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
Now any workplace would fire you on the spot. If its unacceptable to use this language at work why is it OK for it to be used in politics???
Is it acceptable for a political party to be referred to the Equality & Human Rights Commission due to serious allegations of racism, the only other party that has managed that is the BNP.
No it isn't.
Now I've answered your question can you go to your workplace tomorrow and call your gay colleague "a bumboy" , a single mother "illegitimate", a Muslim " a lettebox" and let me know tomorrow evening what the response was.
Given the Labour collapse in the North, where will the biggest Labour majority be after Thursday? Is it likely to be in London? If so, Holborn and St Pancras might be the winner.
Well, if you're representative of Labour activists, then disowning them and telling them to commit an impossible sexual act with themselves if they vote Tory this time might help keep them in the Tory camp a little bit longer.
Wouldn't say I'm disowning them. They are welcome to reform and return. But we mustn't pander.
But, one person's pander is another person's listen.
If Labour don't listen and learn these voters are likely to stick with the Tories.
In 2010, 20£ at Tesco could buy my stuff worth 3-4 carrier bags. After 2016, that went down below Now I can barely fill one. Don't worry, I always have oven ready Brexit to eat!!
So you'll be very happy to get Brexit done with the resulting cost reductions for food,footwear & clothing due UK no longer having to apply EU restrictive tariffs & quotas.
Brexit was not about economics. It was more about immigration, or fear of immigration, nostalgia from pensioners and the working class revolting, after 6 years of Tory austerity. Take back control, is basically control in the hands of Rees Mogg and fellow aristocrats. Who ideally would like children to be going up the chimney and not the social ladder. Be real!
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
It will be a bloodbath for Labour in the Midlands. Corbyn's support for the IRA may not resonate so much in other parts of the country, but here it is utterly toxic.
Reading that tweet-thread this morning, I discovered that Corbyn launched Labour's manifesto, in Birmingham, on the 45th anniversary of the Brummie pub bombings - the worst IRA atrocity on British soil.
That just beggars belief. Either Labour are run by pig-ignorant fools who didn't check, or they are so filled with entitlement and arrogance they didn't care, or they did it as some kind of evil, sniggering joke.
The last explanation is clearly ludicrous. And yet, with Corbyn, McDonnell and Milne, it just might be possible. That's how bad they are.
I've just heard the BBC report that Sturgeon thinks the Scottish people should determine whether there is another Indyref, rather than Westminister. Isn't that a referendum to decide whether to have a referendum? The only way out of that is to have another referendum.
Any referendum can only be considered after Holyrood 2021
That Holyrood election will provide a mandate or otherwise to request a referendum and HMG will need to consider it carefully
It is interesting to note that in the latest Scots opinion poll SNP = 39% Pro Union = 60%
Food for thought there
Why 2021, why not 2016 when pro indy parties got a majority.
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
It will be a bloodbath for Labour in the Midlands. Corbyn's support for the IRA may not resonate so much in other parts of the country, but here it is utterly toxic.
Why do you think it is resonating this time, but didn't last time? In 2017, the papers went massive on terrorist sympathising, this time it is antisemitism and much less about his IRA mates. I honestly presumed the terrorist stuff was just now all factored in.
He wasn't well known last time. 'Surely that cant be true?' Was stronger. They all know better now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBjGD5VGVg0
I agree 2021 will be critical. An SNP majority would give a mandate IMO.
One of our here today, gone tomorrow posters we have at election time
Fuck me - I`m voting Tory now
https://www.ft.com/content/0ee55f40-b2c9-11e9-8cb2-799a3a8cf37b
limp Scottish equivalents.
So elementary Mr Watson
Progressives Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Krystal Ball, The Young Turks, Michael Brooks, Sam seder, Jimmy Dore have endorsed Corbyn. Go on YouTube watch their coverage, the movement to stop corrupt corporate media and politicians selling out to corrupt lobbyists is over. Neo liberalism is dead.
Corbyn wants the same economic system as France and Germany. Progressives are tired of the bullshit from billionaire press barons, establishment media. Poverty must end. Workers must have rights. Homelessness must end. Politicians fighting for corrupt TWX avoiding billionaires and companies are destroying our society.
If it's the former, your system needs some recalibration, because no way in hell am I as posh as it gets.
Ditto anybody else with an interest in knowing what they are.
I score my grandparents 1, 2 or 3 as a whole on overall social status? Or by occupation, finances and some third category?
And what's the weighting?
TA
I'm 14. Which is also my mental age, so that's neat
You are solid but unspectacular upper class.
Nan and grandad two - housewife and bus driver
Mum and dad - insurance claims handler/worked in a cafe and loss adjuster/ran a pub/storeman at a steel erection company
Me - insurance claims, bank admin and team manager/ran a pub now on disability benefits and not working
Your voting for him to do a job and this is the language he uses so use it.
According to the ONS food prices have increased 13% since 2010.
Whereas in the nine years before 2010 food prices increased by 34%.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/d7c8/mm23
By the way I've never seen a British person write 20£ instead of £20.
Likely voting next week to Get Brexit Done.
Should be 1.25 now. Will be 1.2 eve of poll.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TracyAnnO/status/1203397839453380611
If half of these anecdotes are in the vicinity of reality, then Labour could be headed for an unprecedented meltdown. Their people just won't come out and vote for Corbyn. They might not switch to Boris, Farage or Swinson, but they won't give the anti-semite their support, either.
Labour could lose many dozens of seats. Maybe a hundred?
So, the balance between left and right is better than it seems at the moment, when the Tories are so clearly in the ascendency in the polls (and almost certainly heading for an election win). Many of the rest of us are too depressed to post.
Of course, the point that Miss Scarlett makes is correct -- most of us would be suspended, pending disciplinary action, if we used language like that.
Unless all you buy is avocados
Who is Rayner? Claire darling? Jay?
We are talking about Jess Phillips
For example - 20£
Where's that from?
Is it acceptable for a political party to be referred to the Equality & Human Rights Commission due to serious allegations of racism, the only other party that has managed that is the BNP.
Nice woman, intelligent, middle class, strongly anti-SNP (on which they did bond) but she admitted that she was getting an awful lot of that. Chris Law is nailed on and just might be heading higher in the party.
Did it off the back off @dyedwoolie tip. He can be quite astute when he stays off the alt-right culture war nonsense.
"The greased piglet manages to slip through other people's hands where mere mortals fail," the ex-PM tells an audience.
Bojo intentionally uses racist language for two reasons. One, like the Sun shit tabloid has shown, racism sells, specially against Muslims. Two, he knows he can get away with it.
This whole campaign has daily updates on 'Corbyn the anti semite'.Hardly anyone speaks about Boris, the racist.
Sadly, this man, like Trump, has made racism, specially towards Muslims and blacks, socially acceptable.
I came here and tell you that when I was young boy I buy everything I need in Tesco for less than 10 roubles.
Now because your Capitalist running dogs Winston Churchill, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Theresa May and Boris Johnson I buy only half bag of food for tenth price.
Please believe me and vote for Comrade Corbyn! Friendship, Progress and Peace Between Glorious Peoples!
I recently heard one suggestion to lower the rate of interest but extend the term from 30 to 40 years. This would be worse.
Is that something you should be bragging about?
Disclosure: my betting strategy is based on seeking value at the margins, both hung parliament and Tory landslide, and not herding in the 340-355 seat middle.
Now I've answered your question can you go to your workplace tomorrow and call your gay colleague "a bumboy" , a single mother "illegitimate", a Muslim " a lettebox" and let me know tomorrow evening what the response was.
If you can't do it, why are you a coward?
If Labour don't listen and learn these voters are likely to stick with the Tories.
That just beggars belief. Either Labour are run by pig-ignorant fools who didn't check, or they are so filled with entitlement and arrogance they didn't care, or they did it as some kind of evil, sniggering joke.
The last explanation is clearly ludicrous. And yet, with Corbyn, McDonnell and Milne, it just might be possible. That's how bad they are.
They all know better now.