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  • Telegraph says Lab's Broadband plan would breach EU State Aid rules.

    Anyone still clinging to the fantasy that Corbyn and co aren't Brexiteers?
  • And finally

    What would Jeremy Corbyn do if he found himself with an unexpectedly free Friday night? “He’d go outside in the garden and sit on the fence all night;” “Scrolling through Twitter, saying ‘I’m really very nice!’;” “A nice sit-down dinner with someone who doesn’t like Britain;” “I can’t see him going out on the town. He’d get his pencil out and start writing. Working out a way to scrap Trident.”

    What about Boris Johnson? “You know he’s going to get up to something;” “On the razz. Goes down Wetherspoons, or the casino;” “Shags his secretary;” “A bit of a messy night out. It wouldn’t be civilised. I think there would be apologies the next morning.”

    How about Jo Swinson? “Shopping online;” “Watching Gogglebox;” “Plotting how to stay in Europe;” “Well she’s a Lib Dem, so a really nice restaurant made of recycled paper, or something.”

    And Nigel Farage? “Out with his crackpot friends. In the pub with his wellies on;” “He’d go to the casino with Boris. He’d carry his drinks for him;” “It would be party time. He’d go crazy, like Prince Harry used to do;” “He’d be on the piss with his dog.” Would the dog be drinking too? “I wouldn’t put it past him.”

    https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/11/he-put-the-milk-in-before-taking-the-teabag-out-hes-a-proper-nutcase-whos-going-to-pay-me-for-a-four-day-week-my-election-focus-groups-in-stoke-bolton-and-west-brom-2/
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,129
    edited November 2019

    Telegraph says Lab's Broadband plan would breach EU State Aid rules.

    Anyone still clinging to the fantasy that Corbyn and co aren't Brexiteers?

    Having the state intervene in a market that is already highly competitive and not only just undercutting it, but eliminating it. I don't see how it could be compatible with the EU.
  • ‘He put the milk in before taking the teabag out!’, ‘He’s a proper nutcase’, ‘Who’s going to pay me for a four-day week?’ My election focus groups in Stoke, Bolton and West Brom

    This week we have visited three Labour-held, Leave-voting seats of the kind the Conservatives are looking to regain in their quest for a majority: Stoke-on-Trent North, Bolton North East, and the seat held until recently by Labour’s deputy leader, West Bromwich East.

    https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/11/he-put-the-milk-in-before-taking-the-teabag-out-hes-a-proper-nutcase-whos-going-to-pay-me-for-a-four-day-week-my-election-focus-groups-in-stoke-bolton-and-west-brom-2/

    I know this is Labour seats, but it doesn't read well for the Tories. A lot of Corbyn policies are bonkers, but ahh f##k it whats the worst that could happen, we aren't going to become a Communist country.

    Thanks for the link, absolutely brilliant. People are really hilarious aren't they, like proper laugh out loud funny, and they have more common sense than you come across in a month of reading PB. I think we will be all right whoever wins this election, the British sense of humour will see us through.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293

    And finally

    What would Jeremy Corbyn do if he found himself with an unexpectedly free Friday night? “He’d go outside in the garden and sit on the fence all night;” “Scrolling through Twitter, saying ‘I’m really very nice!’;” “A nice sit-down dinner with someone who doesn’t like Britain;” “I can’t see him going out on the town. He’d get his pencil out and start writing. Working out a way to scrap Trident.”

    What about Boris Johnson? “You know he’s going to get up to something;” “On the razz. Goes down Wetherspoons, or the casino;” “Shags his secretary;” “A bit of a messy night out. It wouldn’t be civilised. I think there would be apologies the next morning.”

    How about Jo Swinson? “Shopping online;” “Watching Gogglebox;” “Plotting how to stay in Europe;” “Well she’s a Lib Dem, so a really nice restaurant made of recycled paper, or something.”

    And Nigel Farage? “Out with his crackpot friends. In the pub with his wellies on;” “He’d go to the casino with Boris. He’d carry his drinks for him;” “It would be party time. He’d go crazy, like Prince Harry used to do;” “He’d be on the piss with his dog.” Would the dog be drinking too? “I wouldn’t put it past him.”

    https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/11/he-put-the-milk-in-before-taking-the-teabag-out-hes-a-proper-nutcase-whos-going-to-pay-me-for-a-four-day-week-my-election-focus-groups-in-stoke-bolton-and-west-brom-2/

    :D:D:D
  • And finally

    What would Jeremy Corbyn do if he found himself with an unexpectedly free Friday night? “He’d go outside in the garden and sit on the fence all night;” “Scrolling through Twitter, saying ‘I’m really very nice!’;” “A nice sit-down dinner with someone who doesn’t like Britain;” “I can’t see him going out on the town. He’d get his pencil out and start writing. Working out a way to scrap Trident.”

    What about Boris Johnson? “You know he’s going to get up to something;” “On the razz. Goes down Wetherspoons, or the casino;” “Shags his secretary;” “A bit of a messy night out. It wouldn’t be civilised. I think there would be apologies the next morning.”

    How about Jo Swinson? “Shopping online;” “Watching Gogglebox;” “Plotting how to stay in Europe;” “Well she’s a Lib Dem, so a really nice restaurant made of recycled paper, or something.”

    And Nigel Farage? “Out with his crackpot friends. In the pub with his wellies on;” “He’d go to the casino with Boris. He’d carry his drinks for him;” “It would be party time. He’d go crazy, like Prince Harry used to do;” “He’d be on the piss with his dog.” Would the dog be drinking too? “I wouldn’t put it past him.”

    https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/11/he-put-the-milk-in-before-taking-the-teabag-out-hes-a-proper-nutcase-whos-going-to-pay-me-for-a-four-day-week-my-election-focus-groups-in-stoke-bolton-and-west-brom-2/

    People of Stoke nail it...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,213
    edited November 2019
    More taxes incoming with labour ?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7680077/Labours-eco-war-drivers-Jeremy-Corbyns-plan-force-60-cent-drop-motorists-mileage.html

    Edit: Interesting quote from the err 'left' contained within:

    Labour's net 2030 policy has also been criticised as 'unachievable' by its own trade union supporters, who have warned it would mean petrol cars being 'confiscated'.
    The GMB union said the target 'threatens whole communities' and would mean families taking 'only one flight every five years'.
    The union's leader, Tim Roache, wrote: 'We believe it would mean within the next decade a series of measures such as the confiscation of petrol cars....it will put entire industries and the jobs they produced in peril.' !
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,129
    edited November 2019
    Pulpstar said:
    The document proposes 'demand management' to force a 'large and rapid' drop in car use.

    Again, not scary at all....Stealing companies, restricting movement of citizens, have the state control your internet (and be able to see what you do with)....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    New thread!
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,564

    Shocking!

    Naughty Labour supporters put out an edited version of an interview. The Tories would never do that!

    Funny though...

    https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1195323494264967168?s=20

    If that gets out to everyone Boris will sweep the country and turn Scotland, South Wales and Liverpool blue.

  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    Gabs2 said:

    Brom said:

    Brom said:

    RobD said:

    Westminster voting intention:

    CON: 43% (+3)
    LAB: 30% (-)
    LDEM: 15% (-)
    BREX: 5% (-3)
    GRN: 2% (-1)

    via @PanelbaseMD, 13 - 14 Nov
    Chgs. w/ 08 Nov

    Methodology changes? Nice to see Labour static for a change ;)
    Labour stuck on 30%, I'm sure they will crawl upwards gradually but now BXP have stood down Tories will be the right side of 40% unless they have a campaign meltdown.
    The Tories were on the right side (for them) of 40% last time, just saying.
    Yes but so were Labour. Unless the Lib Dems are being squeezed to single figures this seems unlikely this time around. Even if the Tories hit 317 it might be enough to get the deal through given their new influx of MPs, though the aim is 330 plus.
    I don't know. Momentum are out in droves, pounding the doorsteps. They will generate a big Labour turnout and convert a lot of switchers.
    A bit rude. They're pretty objectionable but I can't see that they'll turn that many off Labour, amongst those that are left.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,316
    edited November 2019
    Noo said:


    But ISPs isn't like energy suppliers at all. People need very different levels of internet provision. The "pipe" needs to be different sizes, in both up and down directions and this differs widely for different people. Labour proposal is one exactly identical service for everybody.

    On the contrary, last mile connectivity is exactly the kind of infrastructure that should probably be nationalised. Fibre to the home gives you a pipe of arbitrary size to the nearest exchange. How much internet you actually got attached to the end of that pipe is up to you - if you want to pay for a huge internet connection you can do so & a base level of connectivity would be cheap to supply on a national level.

    Last mile network connections are a natural monopoly - like the railways, water & gas supply the in/on the ground infrastructure is either 1) nationally owned or 2) very heavily regulated for good reasons. This isn’t really controversial stuff economically - it’s the “market forces uber alles” types who see communists round every corner that are going off the deep end about this.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,614
    algarkirk said:

    Shocking!

    Naughty Labour supporters put out an edited version of an interview. The Tories would never do that!

    Funny though...

    https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1195323494264967168?s=20

    If that gets out to everyone Boris will sweep the country and turn Scotland, South Wales and Liverpool blue.

    It's Rowley Birkin QC!

    Just missing "a lorry load of exploding French cheese!"

    "But I was very, very drunk...."
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,316

    Pulpstar said:
    The document proposes 'demand management' to force a 'large and rapid' drop in car use.

    Again, not scary at all....Stealing companies, restricting movement of citizens, have the state control your internet (and be able to see what you do with)....
    Right now we have demand management by congestion & the amount of time people are prepared to sit in traffic. How is that better?
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329

    ‘He put the milk in before taking the teabag out!’, ‘He’s a proper nutcase’, ‘Who’s going to pay me for a four-day week?’ My election focus groups in Stoke, Bolton and West Brom

    This week we have visited three Labour-held, Leave-voting seats of the kind the Conservatives are looking to regain in their quest for a majority: Stoke-on-Trent North, Bolton North East, and the seat held until recently by Labour’s deputy leader, West Bromwich East.

    https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/11/he-put-the-milk-in-before-taking-the-teabag-out-hes-a-proper-nutcase-whos-going-to-pay-me-for-a-four-day-week-my-election-focus-groups-in-stoke-bolton-and-west-brom-2/

    I know this is Labour seats, but it doesn't read well for the Tories. A lot of Corbyn policies are bonkers, but ahh f##k it whats the worst that could happen, we aren't going to become a Communist country.

    These comments are pretty funny - Corbyn is vanilla and Boris is raspberry ripple!
    Swinson would spend Friday night in nice restaurant made of recycled paper.

    What I think it does show is that if the Tories could come up with something to neutralise the privatise the NHS stuff they might be able to move some people to them. I don’t think for one second that they are planning to privatise it but if they could come up with a charter or commitment to free at the point of use system for all British citizens then it would go alongside their funding announcements. They could even put any questions off for a generation by linking it to the 100th anniversary and putting in strategic goals in that period. Developing 5g health care at scale

    The other thing I think they should do is take a greater role is building new social housing and linking right to buy to the age of the property, that is discounts on older housing stock that may need upgrading are higher and new stock less, but still available. Also regional discounts related to demand so if you have social housing in London you will get less of a discount than an area with less housing demand for example Hartlepool.

    You can imagine the bus being more popular if it said get Brexit done so we can support the 30 year plan for the NHS, or get Brexit done for the New Right to Buy.
  • ***** Betting Post *****

    Labour-held Dewsbury is a largish constituency I know well, comprising the town of Dewsbury itself which itself is a somewhat down at heel West Yorkshire former mill town with an exceedingly high first and second generation Asian population. Taking Dewsbury on its own, this would surely be an overwhelmingly safe seat for Labour, but it rates as being a marginal on account of the constituency including a number of prosperous middle class rural villages located between Dewsbury and Huddersfield.
    Electoral Calculus currently has Labour winning 40.0% of the vote with the Tories comfortably behind on 34.7%. On this basis, Baxter gives Labour a 58% chance of retaining this seat with the Tories on 39%.
    Based on these numbers, one might expect Labour to be the odds-on favourite with the Tories trailing well behind in the betting but in fact the opposite is the case ... the Tories are 1/2 odds-on favourite with both Betfair Sportsbook and its sister company Paddy Power, with Labour available on offer at 6/4 with both firms. I've filled my boots with both firms, although the maximum stake I was allowed was somewhat restricted.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131
    glw said:

    Floater said:

    Mr McDonnell said that if other broadband providers did not want to give access to British Broadband, then they would also be taken into public ownership.

    Chilling...do what the government say or we will seize your business.

    Now, about inwards business investment......
    Just raising the prospect of nationalisation will have a chilling effect.

    In fact a quick Google and I found this.


    Labour broadband pledge stalls TalkTalk sale
    A deal to sell FibreNation to CityFibre has been postponed until after the general election, Sky News understands.

    https://news.sky.com/story/labour-broadband-pledge-stalls-talktalk-sale-11861708

    Damage already done by the Labour Party.
    Hmm. A chilling effect induced by a party determined to bring in a fuck-business policy. So unusual, that.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    Noo said:

    malcolmg said:

    Labour 6th on first preferences in Inverness council by-election:

    https://twitter.com/HighlandCouncil/status/1195311955734597632

    Another SNP victory assured and under 7% for Labour
    You are becoming the SNP version of HYUFD. The unquestioning belief and loyalty is really quite quaint.
    I think he means this by election result is assured, after the transfers. He's probably right.
    Forehead is too thick to work that one out.
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