Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
I am not a Labour supporter but have come across Dogus. He is one of the few Labour candidates who could tempt me to vote Labour - especially in a constituency like WBE where it is him or the Conservative. One of the good guys.
I had a quick look at the constituency on the HoC website. If the theory that seats become impossible for the Tories to win once the BAME percentage hits 30 is correct, then this one ought to be just about safe for Labour. But we shall see what transpires.
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
The Russia report should have been published. I doubt there'd have been a voter backlash because there wasn't when George Osborne was found grubbing for Russian millions a decade or so back.
Bit difficult for Labour to run with that given Mandelson had been on the same yacht also grubbing for money. This one should have been a free hit, unless of course it implicated Labour too.
The press ran with it. Mandelson was not after the cash, having fallen out with Brown. The chain was that Osborne leaked what Mandelson said about Brown, and then Nat Rothschild leaked that Osborne was grubbing for roubles (illegally, of course). Yet the party and Osborne survived.
Likewise reports about electoral malpractice in 2015 and funding irregularities and Russian activity in the referendum have not overturned Brexit.
Decrepit's first law of politics: things that ought to matter, usually don't.
Erhhh...you seemed to be misremembering what Mandelson's job was at that time and what the bloke on the yacht's main business was. And unlike Osborne, who went for dinner once, Mandy was being entertained over the summer by him.
I think you will find I have the broad gist right. It was Osborne after the roubles. And the point is the new report that CCHQ is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Kremlin is unlikely to make more of a splash than yachtgate or the referendum revelations.
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
The Russia report should have been published. I doubt there'd have been a voter backlash because there wasn't when George Osborne was found grubbing for Russian millions a decade or so back.
Bit difficult for Labour to run with that given Mandelson had been on the same yacht also grubbing for money. This one should have been a free hit, unless of course it implicated Labour too.
The press ran with it. Mandelson was not after the cash, having fallen out with Brown. The chain was that Osborne leaked what Mandelson said about Brown, and then Nat Rothschild leaked that Osborne was grubbing for roubles (illegally, of course). Yet the party and Osborne survived.
Likewise reports about electoral malpractice in 2015 and funding irregularities and Russian activity in the referendum have not overturned Brexit.
Decrepit's first law of politics: things that ought to matter, usually don't.
Just back from our Remembrance Sunday service and parade in Epping during which the Brexit Party drove a van with a logo on (as well as 'last we forget') during the silence, had members of the crowd in Brexit Party rosettes and the candidate laid a wreath in full military uniform plus rosette. Looks like Farage as well as Corbyn needs a lesson on what Remembrance weekend is supposed to be about
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
The Russia report should have been published. I doubt there'd have been a voter backlash because there wasn't when George Osborne was found grubbing for Russian millions a decade or so back.
Bit difficult for Labour to run with that given Mandelson had been on the same yacht also grubbing for money. This one should have been a free hit, unless of course it implicated Labour too.
The press ran with it. Mandelson was not after the cash, having fallen out with Brown. The chain was that Osborne leaked what Mandelson said about Brown, and then Nat Rothschild leaked that Osborne was grubbing for roubles (illegally, of course). Yet the party and Osborne survived.
Likewise reports about electoral malpractice in 2015 and funding irregularities and Russian activity in the referendum have not overturned Brexit.
Decrepit's first law of politics: things that ought to matter, usually don't.
Mandelson wasn’t after cash for Labour. He wanted it for one of his other projects at the Commission.
The more awkward aspect of the timing was that by the time this story emerged Mandelson had reconciled with Brown and rejoined the cabinet.
The most amusing aspect is that Osborne leaked most of the story himself in a bid to damage Mandelson...
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
I suspect a lot of people remain less than engaged from the GE at this point but the overnight polling was obviously very good for the Conservatives and a 40% vote share against a split opposition guarantees a landslide majority.
We now seem to be in a unseemly dutch auction between the Conservative and Labour Parties to determine which of the two can try and buy the greater number of votes with un-costed campaign spending pledges.
The problem with the hundreds of millions of spending pledges is they will have to be paid for and today's borrowing becomes tomorrow's tax rises - whichever of the two old dinosaur parties ends up in Government can say what it likes now but taxes will ultimately rise and rise considerably to meet the spending pledges.
We are being bribed with our own money and of course there will be a payback down the road.
We also have targeted campaign pledges for each and every day from the Conservative "tsunami of Tory ideas". The Veterans' Railcard - who could possibly object to that? Well, Veterans already enjoy free or heavily discounted travel in London courtesy of the Veterans Oyster Card and armed forces personnel in uniform travel free.
The truth of many of the campaign pledges is they are often far less than they appear but that isn't of course the point.
Technical point; a Dutch Auction is one where a single buyer bids down sellers. A standard auction is where a single seller bids up buyers.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
But at least Johnson wasn't wearing a donkey jacket.....
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
This has potential to shape this election in the latter stages, like what happened for Trump. A game changer.
If you think back to how it began to turn for Oh Jeremy Corbyn, when he called it wrong on Putin’s KGB poisoning of Salisbury with nerve agent of war, how his support went off a cliff, how his critics in opposition and his own party made hay whilst the Jez Sun went down? What if the Tories did nothing about it because of how much Russian money has bought their party and is playing the tune? Facts are Trump has struck off oligarchs on behalf of his British ally the British government haven’t even moved against. Add to it whiff of a cover up. Whispers of links between close aids of the prime minister and Russia. And most of all how it was used as a stick to beat Corbyn, but not enough action taken on the actual problem, this is just the type of thing to definitely reshape last weeks of this campaign. Isn’t it?
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
But at least Johnson wasn't wearing a donkey jacket.....
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Mr. kle4, it's faintly amusing that I'm a better green by accident than the hypocritical and smug Caroline Lucas is.
And all without hectoring others to change their lifestyles.
That death star didn't just build itself Mr Dancer.....
Say what you will about them, but Darth Vader and the Emperor were excellent motivators, and great organisers of major projects. Heck, the people who tried to replace them got their arses kicked by Empire wannabes for crying out loud.
Indeed. Say what you like about Palpatine, but he was a superb organiser and bought peace and security to the Galaxy
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
This has potential to shape this election in the latter stages, like what happened for Trump. A game changer.
If you think back to how it began to turn for Oh Jeremy Corbyn, when he called it wrong on Putin’s KGB poisoning of Salisbury with nerve agent of war, how his support went off a cliff, how his critics in opposition and his own party made hay whilst the Jez Sun went down? What if the Tories did nothing about it because of how much Russian money has bought their party and is playing the tune? Facts are Trump has struck off oligarchs on behalf of his British ally the British government haven’t even moved against. Add to it whiff of a cover up. Whispers of links between close aids of the prime minister and Russia. And most of all how it was used as a stick to beat Corbyn, but not enough action taken on the actual problem, this is just the type of thing to definitely reshape last weeks of this campaign. Isn’t it?
It should be damaging. But tbh, most of those who will care about such a lowlife being in a position of power are probably already resolved not to vote Labour anyway.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
But at least Johnson wasn't wearing a donkey jacket.....
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
I am not a Labour supporter but have come across Dogus. He is one of the few Labour candidates who could tempt me to vote Labour - especially in a constituency like WBE where it is him or the Conservative. One of the good guys.
I had a quick look at the constituency on the HoC website. If the theory that seats become impossible for the Tories to win once the BAME percentage hits 30 is correct, then this one ought to be just about safe for Labour. But we shall see what transpires.
It’s sort of self-correcting.
As BAME hit 30% they will dominate more and more in the middle classes (rather than mainly urban working classes) so a strong and growing cadre of them will find their politics growing increasingly conservative.
It should also ameliorate against silliness like “reparations” since at that proportion of the population they’d be taxing themselves to pay for it too.
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
This has potential to shape this election in the latter stages, like what happened for Trump. A game changer.
If you think back to how it began to turn for Oh Jeremy Corbyn, when he called it wrong on Putin’s KGB poisoning of Salisbury with nerve agent of war, how his support went off a cliff, how his critics in opposition and his own party made hay whilst the Jez Sun went down? What if the Tories did nothing about it because of how much Russian money has bought their party and is playing the tune? Facts are Trump has struck off oligarchs on behalf of his British ally the British government haven’t even moved against. Add to it whiff of a cover up. Whispers of links between close aids of the prime minister and Russia. And most of all how it was used as a stick to beat Corbyn, but not enough action taken on the actual problem, this is just the type of thing to definitely reshape last weeks of this campaign. Isn’t it?
What oligarchs has Trump "struck off"? Best I can tell, the Trump administration has gutted the Magnitsky Act, giving carte blanche for Putin to carry on his policies of murdering inconvenient people. Trump is basically on Putin's side, just more hemmed in by America's constitution.
So if Labour lose having lost Leavers to the Brexit Party and the Tories and Remainers to the LDs, Greens and SNP they now have a cunning plan to accelerate the process
You always give an answer and great rebuttal HY. The latest speculation about the suppressed security report, this time from the Pravda of the BBC, claim Tories suppressed it because Russians named in it are big donors to the Tory party, hence he who pays the piper plays the tune. 😮
What’s the right response? Surely rebutting attack where Labour get their money off unions just adds fuel to the fire as doesn’t actually rebutt?
The right response is to ignore it unless the donations were illegal
This has potential to shape this election in the latter stages, like what happened for Trump. A game changer.
If you think back to how it began to turn for Oh Jeremy Corbyn, when he called it wrong on Putin’s KGB poisoning of Salisbury with nerve agent of war, how his support went off a cliff, how his critics in opposition and his own party made hay whilst the Jez Sun went down? What if the Tories did nothing about it because of how much Russian money has bought their party and is playing the tune? Facts are Trump has struck off oligarchs on behalf of his British ally the British government haven’t even moved against. Add to it whiff of a cover up. Whispers of links between close aids of the prime minister and Russia. And most of all how it was used as a stick to beat Corbyn, but not enough action taken on the actual problem, this is just the type of thing to definitely reshape last weeks of this campaign. Isn’t it?
I don't know. How is one more scandal going to achieve cut-through amongst so many others?
This election seems highly likely, as things stand, to be decided by Brexit, the voters' assessment of the spending plans of the major parties, the extent to which Labour can motivate its core vote, plus the usual split on the constitution in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
Agreed. And we had the added reminder of the five former PMs behind him, who in their time all managed to fasten their coats, polish their shoes and lay their wreath the correct way round.
Must balance male/female, Leave/Remain, AND town/city? That's bad enough, but why not white/BAME and north/south as well?
Is Keir Starmer not allowed to stand unless he can persuade a black female northern Leave Labour MP in a non-urban area to stand and balance out his ticket? Are there any, even?
Co-leaders are a genuinely stupid idea, always and forever.
On the bright side, it’ll probably confine Labour to yet another term of opposition.
So it’s not all bad news.
Unless you want good government.
This is true. But if Labour won’t play the part of the official opposition seriously, holding the Government to account and providing a credible alternative, then what else can we expect?
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
twenty three minutes to save the NHS not cutting through?
The election is in over a month, not tomorrow.
Give Labour time, the sods will come back. It would be too easy otherwise.
The destruction of the NHS at the hands of the Tories is practically the only thing Labour talks about.
Because it works. "X days to save the NHS" is the activation command for the Labour androids.
The fact that they've been saying the same thing since Thatcher and yet the health service remains stubbornly unprivatised goes entirely unnoticed.
Everyone has some stock lines that work. Not perfectly or with the same effect each time, but they work.
The Conservatives are going to find it harder to play the fiscal responsibility card this time, even though Labour’s spending plans are off the scale.
The BBC website today makes it look like the pot is calling the kettle black.
I think the kettle is calling the pot black, which is technically ok.
Feels very much like referendum-redux: make up a huge number and try to force your opponents to defend their position by claiming a smaller, but still really big, number. It won't work because the Labour manifesto will pull the same tricks as last time to obscure the true cost of nationalisation plans etc.
twenty three minutes to save the NHS not cutting through?
The election is in over a month, not tomorrow.
Give Labour time, the sods will come back. It would be too easy otherwise.
The destruction of the NHS at the hands of the Tories is practically the only thing Labour talks about.
Because it works. "X days to save the NHS" is the activation command for the Labour androids.
The fact that they've been saying the same thing since Thatcher and yet the health service remains stubbornly unprivatised goes entirely unnoticed.
Everyone has some stock lines that work. Not perfectly or with the same effect each time, but they work.
The Conservatives are going to find it harder to play the fiscal responsibility card this time, even though Labour’s spending plans are off the scale.
The BBC website today makes it look like the pot is calling the kettle black.
Yes, I think it will be less effective. They are reliant on Labour's lines being similarly not as effective as last time. In fact, they need to be quite a bit less effective.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
I’m trying to decide whether this post is sarcastic, or just....
I don't even remember it coming up during the coalition years as it says it did.
Johnny Mac has already said they will all be sent for re-education.
Labour are either completely convinced the UK wants a totalitarian left wing state and is just about to vote for it, or they know they haven't got a hope and are just putting out there all their long term lefty wet dreams.
Otherwise, why even talk about voter repellent ideas like this?
Must balance male/female, Leave/Remain, AND town/city? That's bad enough, but why not white/BAME and north/south as well?
Is Keir Starmer not allowed to stand unless he can persuade a black female northern Leave Labour MP in a non-urban area to stand and balance out his ticket? Are there any, even?
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
I don't even remember it coming up during the coalition years as it says it did.
Johnny Mac has already said they will all be sent for re-education.
Labour are either completely convinced the UK wants a totalitarian left wing state and is just about to vote for it, or they know they haven't got a hope and are just putting out there all their long term lefty wet dreams.
Otherwise, why even talk about voter repellent ideas like this?
It’s even more bizarre because this sort of talk will drive away large chunks of the public sector, which is about the only solid electoral base Labour has left.
Evening all and being laid low with shingles this weekend, I have been watching too many news programmes on the telebox. Clearly Labour must be panicking that the Tory claims about £trillions on public spending must be getting through the way speaker after speaker is protesting about fake news. I have thought for some time the final polling numbers could end up something like Tory 40 Labour 25, Liberal 15, Brexit 5 Green 5 SNP etc the rest we may indeed end up with a repeat of 1983. Now that would be wonderful.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
Johnson's fag will get a beasting tonight for not cleaning his shoes....
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
Unfortunately, he really does need to front it and he needs to sort himself out.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
Is it? I count fourteen.
Wibble.
Maybe he’s missing a thumb? Although that then begs the question why he refers to ‘thumbs’ plural.
twenty three minutes to save the NHS not cutting through?
The election is in over a month, not tomorrow.
Give Labour time, the sods will come back. It would be too easy otherwise.
The destruction of the NHS at the hands of the Tories is practically the only thing Labour talks about.
Because it works. "X days to save the NHS" is the activation command for the Labour androids.
The fact that they've been saying the same thing since Thatcher and yet the health service remains stubbornly unprivatised goes entirely unnoticed.
Everyone has some stock lines that work. Not perfectly or with the same effect each time, but they work.
The Conservatives are going to find it harder to play the fiscal responsibility card this time, even though Labour’s spending plans are off the scale.
The BBC website today makes it look like the pot is calling the kettle black.
Yes, I think it will be less effective. They are reliant on Labour's lines being similarly not as effective as last time. In fact, they need to be quite a bit less effective.
Even my folks (staunch Conservatives) aren’t impressed by the spending spree.
It will be interesting to see what’s promised in the manifesto - rumours today that Javid will pledge to structurally balance the budget in the next three years - but, by then, it might be too late to fatten the pig for market day.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
Johnson's fag will get a beasting tonight for not cleaning his shoes....
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
I’m trying to decide whether this post is sarcastic, or just....
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
It's so nice to be in a country that has such a depth of political talent that we can afford to be fussy about shoes and the depth of a bow. Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
Powerful argument. You’ve convinced me.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Yes, I have twelve. You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
I’m trying to decide whether this post is sarcastic, or just....
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
Unfortunately, he really does need to front it and he needs to sort himself out.
Or find someone to sort him out. I think if someone is running the country, having someone on the payroll to ensure a high standard of personal presentation at all times is useful and justified. Cummings clearly does not place a high degree of importance on these issues - he turns up to number 10 looking like a hobo.
twenty three minutes to save the NHS not cutting through?
The election is in over a month, not tomorrow.
Give Labour time, the sods will come back. It would be too easy otherwise.
The destruction of the NHS at the hands of the Tories is practically the only thing Labour talks about.
Because it works. "X days to save the NHS" is the activation command for the Labour androids.
The fact that they've been saying the same thing since Thatcher and yet the health service remains stubbornly unprivatised goes entirely unnoticed.
Everyone has some stock lines that work. Not perfectly or with the same effect each time, but they work.
The Conservatives are going to find it harder to play the fiscal responsibility card this time, even though Labour’s spending plans are off the scale.
The BBC website today makes it look like the pot is calling the kettle black.
Yes, I think it will be less effective. They are reliant on Labour's lines being similarly not as effective as last time. In fact, they need to be quite a bit less effective.
Even my folks (staunch Conservatives) aren’t impressed by the spending spree.
It will be interesting to see what’s promised in the manifesto - rumours today that Javid will pledge to structurally balance the budget in the next three years - but, by then, it might be too late to fatten the pig for market day.
It's pretty obviously not aimed at staunch Conservatives. Why do you think their talking heads are struggling to sell it coherently?
Doesn't mean it won't help with the voters it's actually aimed at.
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
I hope he does not win a sizable majority, or we could be looking a a long johnson premiership.
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
Who fucking cares?
To be fair, I do.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
This is why the Conservatives need to keep The Clown’s public appearances to an absolute minimum. The manchild is a liability.
Johnson's fag will get a beasting tonight for not cleaning his shoes....
Not sure what that involves, but it can’t be as bad as his predecessor putting “a private part of his anatomy “ into a pig’s mouth, nor the Eton biscuit game.
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
I dunno. I’ve just looked up this Sophie Wilson in Rotherham and bloody hellfire, she’s a dreadful pick. What were Labour thinking?
Of the three party leaders at the Cenotaph today, Johnson was a ******* disgrace. Unpolished shoes, a coat he didn't (couldn't?) fasten, and laying his wreath upside down. Corbyn did his usual failure to bow trick. Only Swinson actually performed like a PM.
But at least Johnson wasn't wearing a donkey jacket.....
I will be very surprised if Labour hold Ynys Môn. With Albert Owen not standing again their vote will almost certainly fragment.
This is a constituency that hasn’t turned out a sitting MP since 1951, but also hasn’t elected a new MP from the same party since 1929. I do not think this is a hard one to call. Plaid should win pretty easily.
Well 10 years of Westminster Pension Pot plus the post-expenses salary, plus 10 years of Euro Parliament Pension plus the MEP expenses for a decade.
Those 2 together should be around a million, plus the 200k+ pension pot we all have from a fully paid up UK Basic Pension. (Using multiple of 35-40, which is what you currently get for cashing a Final Salary pension in).
Suspect that CL is fairly clean on Parliamentary expenses, probably also compared to the average MEP whilst she was there.
Plus whatever she has accumulated from property and savings over 20 years of politics plus 15 years previsouly.
Plus whatever you make off the back of a PhD in Tudor Chick Lit.
£2-3 million?
Not as loaded as say Diane Abbott, but probably a 1-5 per-center.
Minus donations and other she has spent, which may be zero or may be substantial.
You appear to be assuming that she has spent nothing on anything ever, not even a vegan Bounty bar?
She is unlikely to have spent her pension pots yet. Those alone are probably north of £1 million in total. I’m on a final salary pension myself so I know that they would cost a lot to replicate with a savings pot.
Edit for typos.
Really? I thought you were a teacher?
It’s very simple:
The salary I am on now will be my final salary and is what I was on when the average salary part of the pension kicked in. So part is final salary and part is average salary and both are the same.
Well 10 years of Westminster Pension Pot plus the post-expenses salary, plus 10 years of Euro Parliament Pension plus the MEP expenses for a decade.
Those 2 together should be around a million, plus the 200k+ pension pot we all have from a fully paid up UK Basic Pension. (Using multiple of 35-40, which is what you currently get for cashing a Final Salary pension in).
Suspect that CL is fairly clean on Parliamentary expenses, probably also compared to the average MEP whilst she was there.
Plus whatever she has accumulated from property and savings over 20 years of politics plus 15 years previsouly.
Plus whatever you make off the back of a PhD in Tudor Chick Lit.
£2-3 million?
Not as loaded as say Diane Abbott, but probably a 1-5 per-center.
Minus donations and other she has spent, which may be zero or may be substantial.
You appear to be assuming that she has spent nothing on anything ever, not even a vegan Bounty bar?
She is unlikely to have spent her pension pots yet. Those alone are probably north of £1 million in total. I’m on a final salary pension myself so I know that they would cost a lot to replicate with a savings pot.
Edit for typos.
Really? I thought you were a teacher?
It’s very simple:
The salary I am on now will be my final salary and is what I was on when the average salary part of the pension kicked in. So part is final salary and part is average salary and both are the same.
Profoundly unwise of the Tories to encourage the politicisation of Remembrance Sunday.
The party has forgotten the difference between party interest and national interest. Re-education is going to be harsh.
Absolute disgrace if people booed corbyn laying wreath I didn’t hear it but he lays it on behalf of the Labour Party who actually won the election as the war was ending. No time for the man but anyone, yes anyone, that uses this event for party advantage is a disgrace.
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
I dunno. I’ve just looked up this Sophie Wilson in Rotherham and bloody hellfire, she’s a dreadful pick. What were Labour thinking?
You mean what were Momentum thinking? By all accounts the established local party is not pleased by their new enfant terrible.
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
I dunno. I’ve just looked up this Sophie Wilson in Rotherham and bloody hellfire, she’s a dreadful pick. What were Labour thinking?
You mean what were Momentum thinking? By all accounts the established local party is not pleased by their new enfant terrible.
Ah.
All is unfortunately explained.
Although I must dispute your question. It implies that Momentum think.
Well 10 years of Westminster Pension Pot plus the post-expenses salary, plus 10 years of Euro Parliament Pension plus the MEP expenses for a decade.
Those 2 together should be around a million, plus the 200k+ pension pot we all have from a fully paid up UK Basic Pension. (Using multiple of 35-40, which is what you currently get for cashing a Final Salary pension in).
Suspect that CL is fairly clean on Parliamentary expenses, probably also compared to the average MEP whilst she was there.
Plus whatever she has accumulated from property and savings over 20 years of politics plus 15 years previsouly.
Plus whatever you make off the back of a PhD in Tudor Chick Lit.
£2-3 million?
Not as loaded as say Diane Abbott, but probably a 1-5 per-center.
Minus donations and other she has spent, which may be zero or may be substantial.
You appear to be assuming that she has spent nothing on anything ever, not even a vegan Bounty bar?
She is unlikely to have spent her pension pots yet. Those alone are probably north of £1 million in total. I’m on a final salary pension myself so I know that they would cost a lot to replicate with a savings pot.
Edit for typos.
Really? I thought you were a teacher?
It’s very simple:
The salary I am on now will be my final salary and is what I was on when the average salary part of the pension kicked in. So part is final salary and part is average salary and both are the same.
There are still some of the older teachers who still benefit from the original scheme with the final salary system only. I have just retired on that basis.
Well 10 years of Westminster Pension Pot plus the post-expenses salary, plus 10 years of Euro Parliament Pension plus the MEP expenses for a decade.
Those 2 together should be around a million, plus the 200k+ pension pot we all have from a fully paid up UK Basic Pension. (Using multiple of 35-40, which is what you currently get for cashing a Final Salary pension in).
Suspect that CL is fairly clean on Parliamentary expenses, probably also compared to the average MEP whilst she was there.
Plus whatever she has accumulated from property and savings over 20 years of politics plus 15 years previsouly.
Plus whatever you make off the back of a PhD in Tudor Chick Lit.
£2-3 million?
Not as loaded as say Diane Abbott, but probably a 1-5 per-center.
Minus donations and other she has spent, which may be zero or may be substantial.
You appear to be assuming that she has spent nothing on anything ever, not even a vegan Bounty bar?
She is unlikely to have spent her pension pots yet. Those alone are probably north of £1 million in total. I’m on a final salary pension myself so I know that they would cost a lot to replicate with a savings pot.
Edit for typos.
Really? I thought you were a teacher?
It’s very simple:
The salary I am on now will be my final salary and is what I was on when the average salary part of the pension kicked in. So part is final salary and part is average salary and both are the same.
Ah, now I understand.
For those of us who started later, of course...
I’ve been teaching long enough that the teacher I replaced in my current job had retired at 50 (as was then his right).
Off topic, West Bromwich East constituency. This is my hometown constituency and my mom still lives there. It was looking to be colourful until Watson stepped down. Despite everything (Op Midland, Get Brexit Done - it’s very Leave) I was still intending to bet on Labour here. Now the candidates have been selected and Labour have gone for an anti Brexit chap Ibrahim Dogus of Vauxhall, London, the Tories a female councillor Nicola Richards from neighbouring Dudley Council. Dogus has a decent write up, but London Remainer? Hmmm.
Not related to Dogus specifically, who people on here seem to say is a good sort, even if a strange fit for WBE but I do wonder if Labour have screwed up majorly in an election where every seat will matter one way or another, with some of their selections. For example selecting a 23 year old who is involved in a public spat with a leading anti-child abuse campaigner in Rother Valley (Rotherham) is...bold. There's been the Bassetlaw fiasco, and they've selected a literal Trot in West Brom East. That's not to mention Zarah Sultana in Cov South.
The biggest mistake must be Ali Milani in Uxbridge. He may be a charming man whose juvenile mistakes are all in the past........but standing a candidate with a history of antisemitism on social media seems to be giving Johnson a free pass in a constituency where a strong opponent (or even better, all the opposition parties uniting behind a strong indie) could have seen the end of Johnson.
I hope he does not win a sizable majority, or we could be looking a a long johnson premiership.
I'm expecting some big LibDem movement in London, especially west from Westminster out into Surrey.
However, people were rightly incensed by Rees-Mogg and Bridgen. I think there's no love lost for the tories there right now.
The area from Westminster to Surrey has most of the highest house prices in the country as well as some of the biggest Remain votes, they will not touch Corbyn with a bargepole but they are likely to deliver a big swing from Tory to LD even if Boris wins a majority
I'm expecting some big LibDem movement in London, especially west from Westminster out into Surrey.
However, people were rightly incensed by Rees-Mogg and Bridgen. I think there's no love lost for the tories there right now.
That’s a seat that if they win it back it will be a three-way fight with the Liberal Democrats, which despite them being 8,000 votes adrift doesn’t seem impossible given Sam Gyimah is pretty high profile.
A lot might depend on Felicity Buchan, about whom I know nothing but the name.
Dent Coad is a thoroughly unpleasant person and deserves to lose - but then, how many MPs can we say that about?
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What ever happened to Bumi and Genel?
The more awkward aspect of the timing was that by the time this story emerged Mandelson had reconciled with Brown and rejoined the cabinet.
The most amusing aspect is that Osborne leaked most of the story himself in a bid to damage Mandelson...
https://youtu.be/wxlhyX-4qKI
If you think back to how it began to turn for Oh Jeremy Corbyn, when he called it wrong on Putin’s KGB poisoning of Salisbury with nerve agent of war, how his support went off a cliff, how his critics in opposition and his own party made hay whilst the Jez Sun went down? What if the Tories did nothing about it because of how much Russian money has bought their party and is playing the tune? Facts are Trump has struck off oligarchs on behalf of his British ally the British government haven’t even moved against. Add to it whiff of a cover up. Whispers of links between close aids of the prime minister and Russia. And most of all how it was used as a stick to beat Corbyn, but not enough action taken on the actual problem, this is just the type of thing to definitely reshape last weeks of this campaign. Isn’t it?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7668539/Corbyn-aide-held-four-meetings-Czech-spy-1980s-seen-friend-Soviet-Embassy.html
On the bright side, it’ll probably confine Labour to yet another term of opposition.
So it’s not all bad news.
It was a pretty poor show by Johnson.
Corbyn being a disgrace is priced in.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3g1UiO1nRmA/S4_QRxBlwMI/AAAAAAAAA2I/ajKLRDHkbzc/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Michael-Foot_692412a.jpg
As BAME hit 30% they will dominate more and more in the middle classes (rather than mainly urban working classes) so a strong and growing cadre of them will find their politics growing increasingly conservative.
It should also ameliorate against silliness like “reparations” since at that proportion of the population they’d be taxing themselves to pay for it too.
This election seems highly likely, as things stand, to be decided by Brexit, the voters' assessment of the spending plans of the major parties, the extent to which Labour can motivate its core vote, plus the usual split on the constitution in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Oh, no, wait, you're an idiot.
The BBC website today makes it look like the pot is calling the kettle black.
Do you have a dunce’s hat I can borrow?
Is Keir Starmer not allowed to stand unless he can persuade a black female northern Leave Labour MP in a non-urban area to stand and balance out his ticket? Are there any, even?
You can count to twelve, right? Just look down at your hands. See those fingers and thumbs? That's twelve.
https://twitter.com/DCBMEP/status/1193541258511302661?s=20
Feels very much like referendum-redux: make up a huge number and try to force your opponents to defend their position by claiming a smaller, but still really big, number. It won't work because the Labour manifesto will pull the same tricks as last time to obscure the true cost of nationalisation plans etc.
(SF Maj 2017 GE = 169)
An interesting detail is that if this NI seat changes hands, the Tories need to win one more seat in GB in order to have a parliamentary majority.
It’s not too easy to tell with this one.
Otherwise, why even talk about voter repellent ideas like this?
Wibble.
Unfortunately, he really does need to front it and he needs to sort himself out.
The party has forgotten the difference between party interest and national interest. Re-education is going to be harsh.
It will be interesting to see what’s promised in the manifesto - rumours today that Javid will pledge to structurally balance the budget in the next three years - but, by then, it might be too late to fatten the pig for market day.
Glasgow East 3/1
Motherwell & Wishaw 3/1
Glasgow South West 7/2
Airdrie & Shotts 4/1
Lanark & Hamilton East 7/1
And to think how many threads Mike has posted regarding the impending SNP massacre in these seats. I wonder how much he has staked on SLab?
Doesn't mean it won't help with the voters it's actually aimed at.
Con 6/5
LD 5/2
Lab 3/1
This is a constituency that hasn’t turned out a sitting MP since 1951, but also hasn’t elected a new MP from the same party since 1929. I do not think this is a hard one to call. Plaid should win pretty easily.
The salary I am on now will be my final salary and is what I was on when the average salary part of the pension kicked in. So part is final salary and part is average salary and both are the same.
For those of us who started later, of course...
Absolute disgrace if people booed corbyn laying wreath I didn’t hear it but he lays it on behalf of the Labour Party who actually won the election as the war was ending. No time for the man but anyone, yes anyone, that uses this event for party advantage is a disgrace.
All is unfortunately explained.
Although I must dispute your question. It implies that Momentum think.
Although we need Patel, Raab and Gove to lose their seats as well, don’t forget.
Although in fairness given who the candidates are we knew that already...
Should stress I proofread my posts rather less well than my books, including the latest comedy, available here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edric-Corpse-Lord-Hero-Hornska-ebook/dp/B07YN4DBB9/
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/961013
Mr. Doethur (2), ah, cool.
However, people were rightly incensed by Rees-Mogg and Bridgen. I think there's no love lost for the tories there right now.
A lot might depend on Felicity Buchan, about whom I know nothing but the name.
Dent Coad is a thoroughly unpleasant person and deserves to lose - but then, how many MPs can we say that about?