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I have made the truly agonising decision to leave the Labour Party after 55 years. I can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM. I will continue to serve the people of Liverpool Riverside as I have had the honour to do since 1997. pic.twitter.com/3BTzUacZvo
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The absolute state of the party. Jess Phillips testing a defence for why she is still in the party. It isn't convincing
two weeks agoonce......They are beyond help, so we're just going to have to let them go the way of 'Scottish' Labour, tbh.
So it is Boris's Deal or No Deal. Choose, MPs.....
In fairness, no to AV's strategy of 'you are too stupid to understand AV' worked, so telling people they are dumb can work.
Liverpool Riverside will have a better MP than Louise Ellman after the next GE.
Think Corbyn will be out before too long, though.
Conservative 288 (-29)
Labour 244 (-18)
SNP 35 (--)
Liberal Democrat 19 (+7)
DUP 10 (--)
By way of comparison, at GE1992 the Conservatives had 336 MPs elected and had lost 12 of these by the time of the dissolution for GE1997 (losing their majority since there were 659 MPs in the Commons at the time). The changes we have seen have been monumental in size and speed, and it's particularly noteworthy that the Opposition has also lost so many MPs.
They don't.
Male MPs receive significantly more abuse than female MPs, according to research by University of Sheffield researchers, and reported by the BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49247808
What is true is that the media focuses on abuse received by female MPs. Here's an example where one person threatened four male and two female MPs, but only the abuse of female MPs was highlighted:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49211222
Does anybody else have a response?
I can think of at least two male MPs in the past couple of decades who have been attacked, one was a LD MP who was attacked with a sword and the other was a Labour MP who was stabbed. Obviously, the attempt on their lives was thwarted but does someone really need to die before abuse/violence is taken seriously?
During the Major government Labour picked up a defection and a couple of by-elections from the Conservatives, so when one party was down the other was up.
I wasn't quite following politics at the time of the formation of the SDP (as I was concentrating on learning to walk), but Wikipedia tells me only one Conservative MP left to join them, and I can also see that they lost a net two MPs due to by-elections, so that only comes to a net loss of three MPs.
Nothing is certain, of course, and the changes of MP allegiance may not be reflected in the public at large, but there must be a chance that both Labour and the Conservatives lose seats at the next general election.
https://twitter.com/SKinnock/status/1184584192430084096
Margaret Hodge, Ivan Lewis, Fabian Hamilton, Luciana Berger, Louise Ellman, Ruth Smeeth, Ed Miliband, Alex Sobel.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/election-2017-winners-and-losers-on-a-night-of-drama-1.440165
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/864023364624687104
It’s impossible to meet the deadline even if a deal is signed off tomorrow .
He can just say it was a negotiation tactic , whatever makes him feel better .
And all the Oppositions Parties campained to "respect" the referendum result which allowed the Leave vote to splinter.
This time if there's an election people know they have to vote Boris to get Brexit done. A vote anywhere else obviously leads to Remain.
Tim Montgomerie: Triumphant Theresa is reshaping British politics
https://capx.co/triumphant-theresa-is-reshaping-british-politics/
https://twitter.com/tconnellyrte/status/1184622227259559942?s=21
I assume Ellman will stand down now, she hasn't a hope of holding the seat. I hadn't realised she was 73, so I hate to say it but seems like its time to announce you're going too.
Yes, I wanted PR too, but baby steps. A No to AV has put voting reform back 25 years or more. There is no chance of PR anytime in next decade absent some pretty seismic shocks in British politics, and we just don't get those.... oh wait.
Thank you for your comments. Yes, I think no deal in 2019 is most closely coupled to currency movements. Thank you for your responses.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/asked-3100-people-who-would-17092555
NI would be de jure part of the UK, but de facto part of the EU.
The DUP are going to have a canary.
(Apart from Jo Maugham trying to make a prat of himself again, and Labour definitely not having an anti-Semitism problem).
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10152183/extinction-rebellion-luvvies-open-letter-hypocrites/
NI is trapped in some weird customs limbo —- forever, with a veto given in effect to Sinn Fein.
It might be a profitable limbo, but it is a limbo nonetheless.
I am desperately trying to be fair, but I don’t think I could support this.
(And it is not clear what the breakdown is between actual threats of violence and ‘abuse’.)
So we’ll continue flying around the world in First and on private planes, but the rest of you need to cut your carbon emissions to zero!
I just had a dream that Robert Peston joined the government as Boris’s press secretary.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/chinas-cultural-power/600049/
I was right, and this is going to keep hurting them until there are mass expulsions, starting with Corbyn himself.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1184708062260666368?s=21
Optimists learn English.
Pessimists learn Chinese.
Realists learn how to use an AK.
If the DUP are not a massive currency shorting operation - then they've missed their opportunity.
Hmmmm. I suppose it’s only rational for the DUP to squeeze everything they can out of this. If we ever leave, we should subcontract all international negotiations to them.
It seems a reasonable compromise to me and the EU have made a series of meaningful concessions there.
The DUP would be mad not to take it.
Mildly surprised by the timing, but not the action.
More to follow?
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-heads-for-brussels-as-brexit-deal-hangs-in-the-balance-11837315
Of course that's not a critical mass of people, and only reaches an intolerable stage in certain CLPs, and the problem of antediluvian attitudes is not unique to Labour - it's fair to say some Tory CPs will have their own issues (hence Cameron's 'A' List), but the problem has been made more acute because in Labour that behaviour has gone unchecked because those doing it are on the 'right' side of the Corbynite/Corbynsceptic divide - and so get tacit or active support from the much larger group of people who see the battle between factions as more important than kicking out obnoxious people on their 'side'. Like a certain person lower down will excuse the horrible stuff Ellman in particular has had to put up with because she has the 'wrong' politics.
I'd add to this that women Labour MPs often come from outside the longstanding old boy activist and union networks that see themselves as reasserting their control over 'their' party. Finally, the Jewish female Labour MPs have in particular, been more visible in raising the issue due to the nastier, intimidatory edge to the abuse they get. Because it hasn't been dealt with by the shameful people in charge of Labour, it creates a feedback loop - MP complains, seen as disloyal to the Dear Leader, gets more abuse. Nothing is done. Complains again. More abuse, targeted for deselection in favour of someone who is slavishly loyal.
TL;DR Labour is now an utter disgrace of a party.
Boris justs shrugs his shoulders to the DUP and says they've got all they are getting. Because the House will not go for No Deal.
Deal by 31st looks solid.
Not much point in it now.
NI will be trapped in a de facto EU regulatory space, and a veto handed to Sinn Fein.
I think DUP would be mad to go for it.
I know you and I disagree violently about Brexit, but I honestly think this is “worse” than May’s deal.
Honestly, the key difference between Johnson supporters and Corbynistas is it is possible the former might one day admit they were wrong.
It’s just the Remainers now sense it as a threat so want to pre-emptively sledge it.
We all know the game.
That’s not true either.
I would honestly like to know why you think this is better.
I confess I expected the interim Deal to pass back then. There were reasons why it didn't and those reasons haven't gone away.
One big reason is it's interim. We have to accept detailed concessions on Ireland while not knowing what will be arranged long term. There's a vague FTA doing heavy lifting in this agreement. We don't know anything about it, except it won't be low obligation and quickly agreed, as the Johnson regime claims it will be. What it actually will be, if it happens at all (No permanent Deal is still a possibility), will have a huge effect on the acceptability of the Irish arrangements to the DUP and others.
Can you explain that again?