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  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous
  • eggegg Posts: 1,749
    egg said:

    Floater said:

    Chris said:

    Cyclefree said:

    So reduced choice of food and prices up, increased petrol and electricity prices.

    Vulnerable groups ie the poor hit hardest

    Marvellous.

    Meanwhile Boris’s mates who have shorted the pound will make a killing.

    What was that about Brexit being revenge against the elite?

    Document does not seem to mention agriculture, unless I’ve missed it.

    Is that it? All the 'sensible' people have been telling us it's going to be a disaster, a calamity that cannot be countenanced.

    I often chat politics with a civil servant friend. He's a brexiteer (so make of that what you want) but he's fairly relaxed about it all, isn't too alarmed by no deal. He works with people who've worked for 30-40 years and their attitude is we've seen it all before.

    I am a little nervous and it should be remembered that a single match can cause a house fire. But I'm more inclined to see no deal as a potentially long term chronic condition than a cardiac arrest.
    Have you actually read paragraph 6 on medical supplies? Don't you think it's a cause for concern? (That is a problem that will start on Day 1, and continue for at least 3 months, according to the document.)
    My son couldn't get his meds today and my wife had to wait days last month for her meds - despite me ringing half the pharmacists in North Essex.

    Fecking Brexit eh?

    oh wait - only a problem if Brexit can be blamed.
    It will be. Everything from a bad olympics, floods, listeria outbreak, hysteria outbreaks, power cuts, libor rate misspelling, earthquakes, meteorites, stalactites and stalagmites* And you know, when they bring the tea in on a tray, knock a door and drop it, brexit will be blamed.

    And quite rightly too. No problem with any of that.

    *yes has been going on that long.
    Mentioning the olympics there, we’ve had two successful olympics. And all because one shared good luck charm connecting both.

    This nation needs a petition to get Helen Skelton to flash her knickers at next years event.
  • eggegg Posts: 1,749
    edited September 2019
    The backstop is there to avoid a hard border across Ireland when UK and EU are operating different customs regimes. The hard border not only breaks treaties signed up to by the UK government, in practice it will become focal for protest, likely end up with British troops manning it to protect it. The previous PMs negotiation came up with this backstop, did not come up with an alternative even in face of mortal destruction of her political career. Boris governments official policy is not “we don’t like the backstop so no backstop” the only honest policy and realistic negotiation is an alternative plan to be agreed with EU replacing proposed backstop, indeed something Boris with customary oomph agreed to have settled in just 30 accepting it was up to Britain to provide a solution, he said he was "more than happy" with the "blistering timetable" Merkel had set out.

    Even when we No Deal, we can’t return to the negotiating table for anything until we have an alternative to the backstop.

    So Boris, the EU heads of state and negotiators, the British people, infact the whole world is waiting to hear your plan for alternative backstop, your timetable is ticking down. Where’s the backstop alternative Boris? Where’s the backstop negotiation?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    edited September 2019

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    London gin is a way of making gin not an AOC.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited September 2019
    "From the financial data publicly available, Byline Times can reveal that currently £4,563,350,000 (£4.6 billion) of aggregate short positions on a ‘no deal’ Brexit have been taken out by hedge funds that directly or indirectly bankrolled Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign. "

    https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/11/brexit-disaster-capitalism-8-billion-bet-on-no-deal-crash-out-by-boris-johnsons-leave-backers/

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,238

    Many people are saying Kwasi Kwarteng is as dumb as a box of rocks.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1171850211590901760

    What a twat
    Thing is he's been one of the very few ministers who's been prepared to face the media over the last week. Obviously this evening has been something of a car crash, but up until now I'd felt he'd been doing a relatively good job of defending the indefensible.

    Had been miles better than Nigel Evans, whose the other one who's been sent out to bat on this seam-friendly wicket.
    “Many people are saying” - straight out of Trump’s box of rhetorical tropes.

    Wanker.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    egg said:

    The previous PMs negotiation came up with this backstop, did not come up with an alternative even in face of mortal destruction of her political career.

    This really is a point worth emphasising. I would love to believe Boris has something up his sleeve that will pass muster with the EU and enough MPs, but my big fear is even if he does, remarkably, have something up his sleeve, those groups don't really care.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,710
    dixiedean said:

    Is that it? 5 sides of A4? My son's school report is longer.

    If your son's school report is about Brexit, is he ready to form a government?

    And if it's not about Brexit, can we make it about Brexit?
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous

    Didn't Boris want them to lose their shirts? I know he put JRM in the Cabinet and this has been little talked about but it is disgusting. Vote Leave/Brexit/Tories/TBP are all inextricably linked to Bankers. So really the next election should not be Parliament against the people but the Bankers against the people. :wink:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,698
    kle4 said:

    egg said:

    The previous PMs negotiation came up with this backstop, did not come up with an alternative even in face of mortal destruction of her political career.

    This really is a point worth emphasising. I would love to believe Boris has something up his sleeve that will pass muster with the EU and enough MPs, but my big fear is even if he does, remarkably, have something up his sleeve, those groups don't really care.
    Spot on.
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    kle4 said:

    After Yellowhammer:
    What are the odds that the UK WILL NOT leave the EU at all ?

    75:25. It's under assault from so many fronts, and its best chance now is either a clever remain plan backfires, or the Tories win a comfortable majority in an election. But the remainer plans have worked reasonably well so far, and the Tories and BXP could easily cock things up even if percentage wise they should succeed.
    Not after para 17 has been printed and retweeted a million times.
  • Alistair said:

    I thought the Brexit vote split 50/50 amongst the low income. It was the old who voted for Brexit in numbers.
    The poorest households, with incomes of less than £20,000 per year, were much more likely to support leaving the EU than the wealthiest households, as were the unemployed, people in low-skilled and manual occupations, people who feel that their financial situation has worsened, and those with no qualifications.

    https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities
    Basically, people who don't eat brie.
  • The

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    Agreed.

    On the plus side, the delays at coastal ports should mean proper Brie is already nice and ripe by the time it gets to the supermarkets. :smile:
    Good point!

    Brie should be runny and stinky. Delicious.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous

    Not if we leave with a deal!
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    Quick conclusions after a first skim through:

    1. No single smoking gun here but a lot of smouldering ones.
    2. If we do end up with No Deal, it's going to be very hard now for the Government to plead innocence.
    3. The disruption/civil unrest stuff is worrying. If you were the Real IRA or the Revolutionary Trots of Sydenham or whoever, I imagine it must be quite useful to have the Government enumerate its vulnerabilities like this.
    4. There's a lot of "life will get a bit worse" in here. It only takes one of those to flare up. Britain collectively lost its shit a few years ago when petrol prices went up a bit... this envisages situations worse than that.

    My takes: most ministries (notable exceptions Treasury, DWP) relatively open on the topics they cover in the report.

    Problem is that the most problematic issues aren't covered at all, including:

    1. The inability to trade covering automotive, agriculture and fisheries, pharmaceuticals, services including financial services.
    2. Cross border security.
    3. Attitudes to the border in Ireland
    4. VAT fraud and smuggling in mainland Britain
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    A handful of bookies offering 1.02 and even 1.03 for no 2nd referendum *this year*. Safe as your ISA and double-digit annualised return.

    Also lay the draw for tomorrow's Test. No rain due, and only one batsman due in.

    Dyor obvs.
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    Has anything been written about UK Mainland farmers ? Not NI or Irish farmers ? I don't mean food prices - I mean their viability.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    So Yellowhammer report basically means Northern Ireland is fucked.

    The DUP are an utter disgrace .
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,698

    Has anything been written about UK Mainland farmers ? Not NI or Irish farmers ? I don't mean food prices - I mean their viability.

    Not unless it's section 15.

    Same question could be asked about UK manufacturing - e.g. car makers
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    kle4 said:

    egg said:

    The previous PMs negotiation came up with this backstop, did not come up with an alternative even in face of mortal destruction of her political career.

    This really is a point worth emphasising. I would love to believe Boris has something up his sleeve that will pass muster with the EU and enough MPs, but my big fear is even if he does, remarkably, have something up his sleeve, those groups don't really care.
    Boris Johnson has nothing up his sleeve. He is as badly prepared for Brexit as when BJ turns up for an after dinner speech as Jeremy Vine pointed out. To think people have confidence in BJ!

    I have seen this before in politics and the example I would give is Gordon Brown. He wanted the job all his life and when he got it he had nothing new to say. No agenda, no shining beacon on the hill but a croc of shit, mired in the crisis of events. Brown people will say mitigated the financial crisis but I would say it was not Brown who instigated the policy interventions but civil servants and B of E officials who presented and strongly recommended what to do.
  • kle4 said:

    In much more important news than Brexit, why is this the first time I am hearing about an adaptation of the Watch group of characters from Discworld?!

    https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2479518/game-of-thrones-richard-dormer-set-to-lead-another-giant-fantasy-tv-show

    Never been convinced TV is a good medium for Discworld, but this is still stop the presses news.

    Noooooo!
    The “watch” series were by far the best of the Discworld series. Fabulous characterisation. This will be like touching up the Sistine Chapel with some Matt emulsion.
    I am not generally prone to hissy fits but I dread what these morons will do to it.


  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    edited September 2019
    Just wtched it. Meet the head master.He's been given an impossible job. When this government goes down it'll make the celebrations in '97 look insipid.
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,698
    Things are going so badly for Boris...

    I think we can confidently expect a dead cat appearing in the next few days.

    No idea what type of cat that will be though.
  • I've unleashed a monster. And I don't eat bloody Brie!

    I wouldn't mind eating a bit of Brie. She looks OK as Captain Marvel :blush:

    :blush:
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,733
    dixiedean said:

    Is that it? 5 sides of A4? My son's school report is longer.

    We had this before with David Davis, excruciating detail.

    This may just be the Executive Summary. If this is the best level of report we can come up with, we're stuffed.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I drink it straight but occasionally a splash of water from a beautiful little jug I bought at a pottery in the hills above drumnadrochit. It's my little ritual.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    edited September 2019
    TOPPING said:

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    London gin is a way of making gin not an AOC.
    I know. But London missed a trick by not making it an AOC.

    I’m a modest gin fan, and have long favoured Plymouth gin, but some of the Scottish gins are ok. Some are fucking dire mind.
  • Drutt said:

    Is the redacted bit about refineries? Gilts? Forex?

    The biggest area of risk in financial services relates to the clearing of interest rate derivatives. This is colossal - we’re talking Armageddon for significant institutions across Europe including the UK - but because it’s an arcane subject ir gets little media coverage beyond the specialist press. An agreement was reached to ensure the world didn’t end after a 29th March no-deal exit, but I’m not aware if that extends to a 31st October exit. Google “LCH Brexit” to see more (LCH stands for London Clearing House - a subsidiary of the London Stock Exchange). I could imagine that the Government might be coy about the potential consequences of an inability of the majority of financial institutions in Europe being unable to roll over their derivative positions.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Boris could come back with a great deal - parliament would vote it down.

    Sad but there we are.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,237
    edited September 2019
    Drutt said:

    A handful of bookies offering 1.02 and even 1.03 for no 2nd referendum *this year*. Safe as your ISA and double-digit annualised return.

    Well I laid that 2019 Ref2 unicorn till it cried at 4 - did it over and over again - and I kept telling all you guys too. Smug city. Made enough to carry on smoking.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    TGOHF said:

    Boris could come back with a great deal - parliament would vote it down.

    Sad but there we are.

    I think in that circumstance he would win an election handsomely. Blame fir not brexiting would be squarely at the opposition's feet,
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I drink it straight but occasionally a splash of water from a beautiful little jug I bought at a pottery in the hills above drumnadrochit. It's my little ritual.
    Yes. The ritual is important. My dad always poured his carefully-judged dose of Highland water very carefully into his crystal glass of Highland gold. I’m sure the Big Boss is keeping him topped up. The old boy passed away a year ago yesterday.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,698
    TGOHF said:

    Boris could come back with a great deal - parliament would vote it down.

    Sad but there we are.

    I think that's right.

    With hindsight, Brexit failed because 'a bloody difficult woman' turned out to be 'a bloody lousy salesman'.

    Actually, maybe the point of failure was when Andrea Leadsom made her 'mother' of all gaffes. She'd probably have got it through.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    Boris could come back with a great deal - parliament would vote it down.

    Sad but there we are.

    I think in that circumstance he would win an election handsomely. Blame fir not brexiting would be squarely at the opposition's feet,
    Or we would have left.
  • Imagine this...

    Boris goes to the EU Council on 17 October and signs a withdrawal deal of some description "subject to Parliamentary approval". Backs are slapped, photos are called, beaming grins and shaken hands dominate the world's media.

    Next stop HoC where a tumultuous welcome awaits. "Back me or sack me" he will say. If they back him he'll be very happy and if they sack him he'll be happier still. In the latter case he'll tender his resignation and advise HM to send for Corbyn. In the event of a confidence vote ... the Tories will abstain.

    High on Corbyn's agenda (by now it may be 22 or 23 October) will be an awayday to Brussels where he will cancel Boris's agreement and beg for an extension. Will they give him one, after voting down the agreement? Possibly not...
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
    Top tip: never, ever drink Swedish whisky. They are inordinately proud of it and it tastes fucking shite.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I drink it straight but occasionally a splash of water from a beautiful little jug I bought at a pottery in the hills above drumnadrochit. It's my little ritual.
    Yes. The ritual is important. My dad always poured his carefully-judged dose of Highland water very carefully into his crystal glass of Highland gold. I’m sure the Big Boss is keeping him topped up. The old boy passed away a year ago yesterday.
    Ah I'm sorry. Mine is still with us and is every bit as ritualized in it as me, although hes a fan of the rusty nail
  • TGOHF said:

    Boris could come back with a great deal - parliament would vote it down.

    Sad but there we are.

    I think that's right.

    With hindsight, Brexit failed because 'a bloody difficult woman' turned out to be 'a bloody lousy salesman'.

    Actually, maybe the point of failure was when Andrea Leadsom made her 'mother' of all gaffes. She'd probably have got it through.
    Putting Loathsome into the final two rather than Gove was the moment of failure.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,238

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
    A good malt can, and should, be drunk with or without water.

  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Nigelb said:

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
    A good malt can, and should, be drunk with or without water.

    The only rule being it should be drunk!
  • Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I drink it straight but occasionally a splash of water from a beautiful little jug I bought at a pottery in the hills above drumnadrochit. It's my little ritual.
    Yes. The ritual is important. My dad always poured his carefully-judged dose of Highland water very carefully into his crystal glass of Highland gold. I’m sure the Big Boss is keeping him topped up. The old boy passed away a year ago yesterday.
    Ah I'm sorry. Mine is still with us and is every bit as ritualized in it as me, although hes a fan of the rusty nail
    You’re a lucky man. I treasure that generation. They were thrawn bastards at times, but they gave more than they took.

    Spend time with him. And his silly rituals.
  • glwglw Posts: 9,912

    Things are going so badly for Boris...

    I think we can confidently expect a dead cat appearing in the next few days.

    No idea what type of cat that will be though.

    I hope it's not Larry!
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    Has anything been written about UK Mainland farmers ? Not NI or Irish farmers ? I don't mean food prices - I mean their viability.

    No. This report, as published, is partial. Probably deliberately partial. A lot of the most problematic issues are missing.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I drink it straight but occasionally a splash of water from a beautiful little jug I bought at a pottery in the hills above drumnadrochit. It's my little ritual.
    Yes. The ritual is important. My dad always poured his carefully-judged dose of Highland water very carefully into his crystal glass of Highland gold. I’m sure the Big Boss is keeping him topped up. The old boy passed away a year ago yesterday.
    Ah I'm sorry. Mine is still with us and is every bit as ritualized in it as me, although hes a fan of the rusty nail
    You’re a lucky man. I treasure that generation. They were thrawn bastards at times, but they gave more than they took.

    Spend time with him. And his silly rituals.
    Oh I do I do. My mum and dad are old now but still hale and I'm lucky that I live a short bus ride away. I spend a good deal of time with them
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    Imagine this...

    Boris goes to the EU Council on 17 October and signs a withdrawal deal of some description "subject to Parliamentary approval". Backs are slapped, photos are called, beaming grins and shaken hands dominate the world's media.

    Next stop HoC where a tumultuous welcome awaits. "Back me or sack me" he will say. If they back him he'll be very happy and if they sack him he'll be happier still. In the latter case he'll tender his resignation and advise HM to send for Corbyn. In the event of a confidence vote ... the Tories will abstain.

    High on Corbyn's agenda (by now it may be 22 or 23 October) will be an awayday to Brussels where he will cancel Boris's agreement and beg for an extension. Will they give him one, after voting down the agreement? Possibly not...

    Corbyn could just Revoke if they will not extend and a rapid agreement to expunge article 50 from the Lisbon treaty could be agreed and then their is not a problem. :wink: BJ would be dead under a Bus and his career over....
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Imagine this...

    Boris goes to the EU Council on 17 October and signs a withdrawal deal of some description "subject to Parliamentary approval". Backs are slapped, photos are called, beaming grins and shaken hands dominate the world's media.

    Next stop HoC where a tumultuous welcome awaits. "Back me or sack me" he will say. If they back him he'll be very happy and if they sack him he'll be happier still. In the latter case he'll tender his resignation and advise HM to send for Corbyn. In the event of a confidence vote ... the Tories will abstain.

    High on Corbyn's agenda (by now it may be 22 or 23 October) will be an awayday to Brussels where he will cancel Boris's agreement and beg for an extension. Will they give him one, after voting down the agreement? Possibly not...

    Corbyn could just Revoke if they will not extend and a rapid agreement to expunge article 50 from the Lisbon treaty could be agreed and then their is not a problem. :wink: BJ would be dead under a Bus and his career over....
    Referendum triple lock. We get to vote on any attempt to remove article 50 from the EU
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,856
    From what I understand the DUP thought that Brexit would somehow enhance the United Kingdom. Perhaps they are fantasists.
  • https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous

    Not if we leave with a deal!
    Doesn't that make sense for a hedge fund? It will be long UK equities (or whatever) so it is situationally hedged?
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous

    Not if we leave with a deal!
    Doesn't that make sense for a hedge fund? It will be long UK equities (or whatever) so it is situationally hedged?
    I've got my confused face on now
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  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,780

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
    Top tip: never, ever drink Swedish whisky. They are inordinately proud of it and it tastes fucking shite.
    Much the same might be said for Scottish beer. I'd long thought that a pint of heavy might be a good thing. I was quite wrong.

    I'd be interested in your thoughts about Japanese Whisky - we'll not quibble, but it seems very much the real thing to me.

    Personally I think for these things that you should basically have the brand, and therefore a benefit as you choose.

    Japanese Whisky is in my top 4. (Black Bowmore at #1 obviously)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,238

    Call me old-fashioned, but I think that brie should come from France, whisky should come from Scotland and London gin should come from London.

    All whisky comes from the good place surely? If it's not Scots its whiskey
    “The spelling whiskey is common in Ireland and the United States, while whisky is used in all other whisky-producing countries. In the US, the usage has not always been consistent. From the late eighteenth century to the mid twentieth century, American writers used both spellings interchangeably until the introduction of newspaper style guides.”

    (wiki; consume with care)
    Ah thanks. A good speyside for me all clean and fresh
    I’m not a whisky drinker myself. I only have it in the house for guests. Both blended and malt, although bloody Swedes always head straight for the best malt, and drink it straight. Idiots.
    I would do the same as the Swedes.
    Top tip: never, ever drink Swedish whisky. They are inordinately proud of it and it tastes fucking shite.
    In general, perhaps.
    I have had an excellent Swedish whisky, once.


  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124

    https://twitter.com/Byline_Media/status/1171856106882252802

    Is this even 1% true ? If it is - it is mind-blowingly scandalous

    Not if we leave with a deal!
    Read the article and you'll see it's bollocks. Their charts suggest that not a single short position was taken by anyone unconnected with the two campaigns in the whole of March, and that fewer than 40 such positions were taken in total. They don't tell you exactly what they have been counting either.

    If you believe it, though, you can follow the EvilRichGuys in at 3.5 on a no deal exit on Oct 31
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Roger said:

    Just wtched it. Meet the head master.He's been given an impossible job. When this government goes down it'll make the celebrations in '97 look insipid.
    The easiest way to keep the courts out of politics is for Tories to obey the law.
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