Very interesting article in today’s Times by Matthew Syed on the futility of echo chambers where people of similar backgrounds haughtily agree their way of doing things is the right way to the exclusion of other voices... Is he a lurker?
I hope the parties have their candidates all lined up, including backups for those they will be deselecting. A whole bunch of new O'Mara's is nto going to add to the worthiness of the next parliament.
Quite obviously the point of that is to prevent the thing falling through if Brussels offers a different date from the one the PM is mandated to request.
It hands the keys to the Commons, not to Brussels.
Not really. The EU gets to name any date and parliament just gets to rubber stamp it or not.
I wonder whether apologists for this most unsuitable PM are going through the same early stages of doubt that the apologists for Gordon Brown did before the election-that-never-was. When will they reach the obvious conclusion that he is just a walking ego without a single redeemable feature.
So what are the numbers looking like for tomorrow? How many Labour Leavers are we expecting?
Fewer than 5 was my guess last time. Don't see any reason to change.
Any Labour MP who sides with the government whether positively or via abstention will be ending their career as a Labour MP, so it will just be those Leave supporters who are standing down, I'd have thought.
They're happy to be part of a party mired in anti-Semitism, and led by an anti-Semite, but voting with the Conservatives is beyond the pale?
The Conservative Party is not the only one that has lost the plot.
If MPs back the extension and refuse to give Johnson an election before 31st October, then from what he said just now he either has to resign or break the law.
Boris will of course refuse to implement an extension using the royal prerogative and would not be breaking the law as Bills need royal signature to become law.
Though Corbyn said today he would back an election regardless despite Blair warning Corbyn Boris had set an 'elephant trap' for him
Boris Johnson is not yet the Queen.
The Queen does what Boris says as she showed when she prorogued Parliament at his request, he is her Chief Minister after all unless the Commons votes for an election or another Chief Minister
The Queen will think long and hard about becoming the first monarch since Queen Anne to withhold assent. It would be a hugely political act for her to undertake, with or without the Prime Minister’s advice. It would be as controversial as her dismissing the Prime Minister herself.
No it wouldn't, voters backed the Queen asserting to proroguing Parliament by an over 20% margin with Survation at the weekend and voters also opposed further extension by 47% to 41% in the same poll (though I suspect the Queen would just dismiss Parliament and order a general election herself if necessary instead so voters can decide before October 31st whether to deliver Brexit or not)
If the Commons has passed a bill there should be no reason why it shouldn't receive assent.
There should as the executive would refuse to implement it and it betrays the Leave vote of 2016
You do realise the bill simply requires an extension to be asked for an accepted IF a deal is not agreed?
As Boris is going to get a deal, this is not a problem.
I've lost track of the master plan a bit. Is the Northern Ireland referendum still on course for mid-September?
Quite obviously the point of that is to prevent the thing falling through if Brussels offers a different date from the one the PM is mandated to request.
It hands the keys to the Commons, not to Brussels.
Not really. The EU gets to name any date and parliament just gets to rubber stamp it or not.
Indeed. It is a hideous act of treachery. A Zinoviev letter. But real. And turned into a series of cheerful tweets.
Expect Boris to use it every day in the campaign. With lethal effect.
Let’s just remember that MPs are elected to represent the best interests of their constituents, they are not delegates they are just doing their job and people who call them traitors are, I’m afraid, lacking an understanding of how U.K. democracy works
I hope the parties have their candidates all lined up, including backups for those they will be deselecting. A whole bunch of new O'Mara's is nto going to add to the worthiness of the next parliament.
Quite obviously the point of that is to prevent the thing falling through if Brussels offers a different date from the one the PM is mandated to request.
It hands the keys to the Commons, not to Brussels.
Not really. The EU gets to name any date and parliament just gets to rubber stamp it or not.
That's it. The decision is parliament's. Brussels can't "impose" anything.
I am going to be neutral on this. I voted remain but want a deal
I did not vote for Boris and dislike Cummings with a passion
I blame ERG and others for torpoeding TM sensible deal
However, a GE is needed ro smoke out Boris support and to negate the argument that he is unelected (if he should win)
Corbyn needs testing again and in a very different arena to 2017
Jo Swinson's time has come and I expect the lib dems will do very well
I do not share HYUFD opinion Boris will win a majority as he will lose most of Scoland, London and the South though Corbyn is likely to be caught in a pincer movement and lose the most seats
Conclusion their is a real possibility of a labour, lib dem, snp, plaid coalition under another leader who will agree a referendum and that referendum is likely to win due to the change in demography and the young people able to vote
Caveat - IMHO
Lose London AND THE SOUTH? I think the south will still be there for Boris.
All of it?
The polling will be crucial. If it looks like Corbyn might actually win - or just be the leader of the biggest party - then yes, terrified southerners (and many others) will peg their noses and vote Boris.
I would how the Tory party would react if Boris called the election and Corbyn became PM?
I am going to be neutral on this. I voted remain but want a deal
I did not vote for Boris and dislike Cummings with a passion
I blame ERG and others for torpoeding TM sensible deal
However, a GE is needed ro smoke out Boris support and to negate the argument that he is unelected (if he should win)
Corbyn needs testing again and in a very different arena to 2017
Jo Swinson's time has come and I expect the lib dems will do very well
I do not share HYUFD opinion Boris will win a majority as he will lose most of Scoland, London and the South though Corbyn is likely to be caught in a pincer movement and lose the most seats
Conclusion their is a real possibility of a labour, lib dem, snp, plaid coalition under another leader who will agree a referendum and that referendum is likely to win due to the change in demography and the young people able to vote
Caveat - IMHO
Lose London AND THE SOUTH? I think the south will still be there for Boris.
All of it?
The polling will be crucial. If it looks like Corbyn might actually win - or just be the leader of the biggest party - then yes, terrified southerners (and many others) will peg their noses and vote Boris.
I would how the Tory party would react if Boris called the election and Corbyn became PM?
So I’m in Liverpool overnight go take younger twin to the Keith Haring exhibition at Tate Liverpool and we are in Amalia (a proper Italian restaurant) with all Italian staff.
Younger twin has just ordered the Hawaiian pizza to the complete disgust of the staff
He could have been a bit clearer - by saying the stuff about the election, rather than making a speech that didn't mention it, and then having someone brief the press anonymously about it.
Once in a generation? How far apart does he think our elections are even if they were on schedule if he thinks they offer a once in a generation chance to change things?!
I am going to be neutral on this. I voted remain but want a deal
I did not vote for Boris and dislike Cummings with a passion
I blame ERG and others for torpoeding TM sensible deal
However, a GE is needed ro smoke out Boris support and to negate the argument that he is unelected (if he should win)
Corbyn needs testing again and in a very different arena to 2017
Jo Swinson's time has come and I expect the lib dems will do very well
I do not share HYUFD opinion Boris will win a majority as he will lose most of Scoland, London and the South though Corbyn is likely to be caught in a pincer movement and lose the most seats
Conclusion their is a real possibility of a labour, lib dem, snp, plaid coalition under another leader who will agree a referendum and that referendum is likely to win due to the change in demography and the young people able to vote
Caveat - IMHO
Lose London AND THE SOUTH? I think the south will still be there for Boris.
All of it?
The polling will be crucial. If it looks like Corbyn might actually win - or just be the leader of the biggest party - then yes, terrified southerners (and many others) will peg their noses and vote Boris.
I would how the Tory party would react if Boris called the election and Corbyn became PM?
Well if it is the will of the people so be it, better that than yet again ignoring the Leave vote and extending again without consulting them and showing contempt for democracy.
Though even if Boris does not win a majority I cannot see Corbyn becoming PM, Swinson would almost certainly be Kingmaker and veto him
If Johnson makes an election announcement on Wednesday, why cannot Corbyn respond by tabling a VNOC? That would take priority in terms of Commons business , and if passed would set the 14 day clock ticking effectively denying Johnson his preferred date. Given the events of recent days, he might be nuch better placed to gain support from other parties to be installed as an alternative PM.
Quite obviously the point of that is to prevent the thing falling through if Brussels offers a different date from the one the PM is mandated to request.
It hands the keys to the Commons, not to Brussels.
Not really. The EU gets to name any date and parliament just gets to rubber stamp it or not.
Indeed. It is a hideous act of treachery. A Zinoviev letter. But real. And turned into a series of cheerful tweets.
Expect Boris to use it every day in the campaign. With lethal effect.
He could have been a bit clearer - by saying the stuff about the election, rather than making a speech that didn't mention it, and then having someone brief the press anonymously about it.
Maybe he left a cue card back in the garden and left it out by mistake.
Anyone still claiming there’s a master strategy? It all looks like Frank Spencer rollerskating tonight.
There’s clearly a strategy. Get MPs so desperate they eventually agree to a new deal, offered by a spooked EU. Whether it works is moot.
What you’re seeing is tactics. Which vary from day to day, like skirmishes in a larger war.
Johnson claims something is developing on the deal and the EU will only negotiate under pressure. That's wrong on both counts. Nothing serious is developing and the EU won't buckle under a false deadline. But let's go with the fiction. The negotiations do develop into a deal that both sides can accept on October 31. Johnson can rightly claimed to have delivered, to have succeeded where his predecessor failed. But supposing, as is actually the case, he won't have anything by October 31. He has failed to deliver. What happens now?
If he says, I don't mind very much whether I get a deal, my selected date is more important than the outcome, some people would buy that. He's not saying that however.
Very interesting article in today’s Times by Matthew Syed on the futility of echo chambers where people of similar backgrounds haughtily agree their way of doing things is the right way to the exclusion of other voices... Is he a lurker?
He is a very good writer across a broad range of subjects. I dont know his politics but expect he would make a good MP.
Labour candidate in 2001 in Wokingham but I think he is more a lib dem today
No he supports Leave now - so he is more like a wet Tory. Remember them ?
If Johnson makes an election announcement on Wednesday, why cannot Corbyn respond by tabling a VNOC? That would take priority in terms of Commons business , and if passed would set the 14 day clock ticking effectively denying Johnson his preferred date. Given the events of recent days, he might be nuch better placed to gain support from other parties to be installed as an alternative PM.
What does the PB brains trust think about whether the new Benn bill requires Queen's Consent for accepting the extension? HY gets some cop for his view lower down the thread but I think there's some confusion in there between Royal assent and Queen's Consent. Surely forcing the PM into accepting an extension affects the Crown's prerogative power? If it does, then the Govt can kill the bill at the third reading.
Note that the person who gets to make the call on whether it affects prerogative power is a chap called John Bercow. He made a (predictably wrong and) bold call on that point in the Cooper-Letwin bill when the HoL tweaked it.
But if Bercow said it doesn't affect prerogative power, the power to negotiate and conclude treaties (obviously) is unchanged by the legislation, and HMG can refuse to accept the extension offered. That's why there has been such an emphasis on getting a Minister to say they will abide by the legislation.
The only thing that can save Johnson is Labour rebels voting for the government, but I can't see more than about 10 or 15 doing so, which won't be enough.
Corbyn will vote with Johnson for an election pre 31st October as he made clear today
If we had a younger audience on here you would "become a meme". The audacious certainty of your posts/predictions is really very funny. You are Boris Johnson's Poundland Nostradamis.
"Boris will trounce the non-believers. He will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp. There is no presence of remainer infidels in the city of London. God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of the will-o-the-people. Praise be to Comical Ali"
I don't know why everyone is so surprised on here.
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised on here.
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
I was just going to say he makes a refreshing change from May.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised on here.
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
I mean, technically Boris still hasn’t done anything.
Anyone still claiming there’s a master strategy? It all looks like Frank Spencer rollerskating tonight.
There’s clearly a strategy. Get MPs so desperate they eventually agree to a new deal, offered by a spooked EU. Whether it works is moot.
What you’re seeing is tactics. Which vary from day to day, like skirmishes in a larger war.
From here, any conceivable deal is a defeat for Johnson. No Deal is his only option.
Agreed. He and Cummings would have gamed what would be the easiest to spin. Boris as the No Dealer with a heavy heart fits the bill. 'I wanted a deal, I really did, but because the people have spoken/Theresa was crap/the EU are nasty/parliament is uncooperative then No Deal it has to be. Let's make it work!'
If Boris wins a majority before 31st October ironically he can then finally pass the Withdrawal Agreement with some promise about a technical solution for the Irish border from the EU
What is your assumption about BXP in any election before 31 October? Do you think an agreement with the Tories will be reached, which Boris then would renege on if he passes a deal, or do you think BXP stand in some places but not enough to harm the Tories, or they stand all over the place but still not well enough to stop BoJo?
There will be no pact with the Brexit Party as that requires abandoning the Withdrawal Agreement completely, Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement minus the backstop and will campaign on that basis with No Deal a last resort to ensure Brexit on October 31st
I don't know why everyone is so surprised on here.
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
I was just going to say he makes a refreshing change from May.
The polls back up your feelings.
Brexit MEP on R5 confirms if Hammond et al are deselected then Brexit Party will only stand against Labour and Lib Dem remoaners.
From anti Brexit ConsEurope but even it gives the Tories more than Labour plus SNP plus Plaid plus Greens combined with LDs or DUP holding the balance of power
Do I not remember many, many posts on pb.com assuring us that Boris could not have a General Election, even if he wanted one?
Let's see what happens.
My reading is that Corbyn will vote for a General Election. Not least because he has been asking for one for two years, and his unique selling point is that he is a straightforward politician.
He is not a devious little shit like Blair.
I don't know what will happen in the General Election, but Boris merely has not to lose too badly. (He may win of course). Provided Boris does not lose badly, whoever takes power after the Election will be just as impotent and crippled as the Tory Gov'ts over the last 2 years.
Anyone still claiming there’s a master strategy? It all looks like Frank Spencer rollerskating tonight.
There’s clearly a strategy. Get MPs so desperate they eventually agree to a new deal, offered by a spooked EU. Whether it works is moot.
What you’re seeing is tactics. Which vary from day to day, like skirmishes in a larger war.
From here, any conceivable deal is a defeat for Johnson. No Deal is his only option.
Agreed. He and Cummings would have gamed what would be the easiest to spin. Boris as the No Dealer with a heavy heart fits the bill. 'I wanted a deal, I really did, but because the people have spoken/Theresa was crap/the EU are nasty/parliament is uncooperative then No Deal it has to be. Let's make it work!'
If Boris wins a majority before 31st October ironically he can then finally pass the Withdrawal Agreement with some promise about a technical solution for the Irish border from the EU
What is your assumption about BXP in any election before 31 October? Do you think an agreement with the Tories will be reached, which Boris then would renege on if he passes a deal, or do you think BXP stand in some places but not enough to harm the Tories, or they stand all over the place but still not well enough to stop BoJo?
There will be no pact with the Brexit Party as that requires abandoning the Withdrawal Agreement completely, Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement minus the backstop and will campaign on that basis with No Deal a last resort to ensure Brexit on October 31st
Yes, but what do you think BXP will do in response to that, and what level of effect (or not) do you think their actions will have?
There is no end to these people’s obsequious obeisance to Brussels. Nothing their own country wants matters. It’s all about the greater good.
That's not exactly what it says, is it?
Parliament have to agree it.
Since we have proved incapable as a country of progressing this, perhaps we need wiser heads to give us advice on what is achievable.
Ugh.
Why? You and your hideous wine-guzzling, self-aggrandising ilk have utterly fubared things up. The referendum was sold on a lie, and we've been utterly incapable of sorting it out ourselves, because of extremists on all sides - apparently including yourself.
If you were genuinely interested in the good of the country (which you are not), then you would gaze into the abyss facing us with no-deal and look at taking a little step backwards.
That doesn't have to mean the end of Brexit. But it does mean we don't have to step joyously over the edge.
But I daresay you'll be okay, with your expensive wines and foreign jaunts.
If MPs back the extension and refuse to give Johnson an election before 31st October, then from what he said just now he either has to resign or break the law.
Boris will of course refuse to implement an extension using the royal prerogative and would not be breaking the law as Bills need royal signature to become law.
Though Corbyn said today he would back an election regardless despite Blair warning Corbyn Boris had set an 'elephant trap' for him
Boris Johnson is not yet the Queen.
The Queen does what Boris says as she showed when she prorogued Parliament at his request, he is her Chief Minister after all unless the Commons votes for an election or another Chief Minister
The Queen will think long and hard about becoming the first monarch since Queen Anne to withhold assent. It would be a hugely political act for her to undertake, with or without the Prime Minister’s advice. It would be as controversial as her dismissing the Prime Minister herself.
I’d expect the private secretary to put immense pressure on Boris not to be an idiot
Do I not remember many, many posts on pb.com assuring us that Boris could not have a General Election, even if he wanted one?
Let's see what happens.
My reading is that Corbyn will vote for a General Election. Not least because he has been asking for one for two years, and his unique selling point is that he is a straightforward politician.
He is not a devious little shit like Blair.
I don't know what will happen in the General Election, but Boris merely has not to lose too badly. (He may win of course). Provided Boris does not lose badly, whoever takes power after the Election will be just as impotent and crippled as the Tory Gov'ts over the last 2 years.
I suggest these strategists have a look at the audience queuing outside the Rocky Horror Show in northern towns. Working class people have just as wide a selection of views as middle class ones.
From anti Brexit ConsEurope but even it gives the Tories more than Labour plus SNP plus Plaid plus Greens combined with LDs or DUP holding the balance of power
The campaign and , therefore, equal time has not even started. Give a little bit of time.
I don’t believe that there has been a single case ever of a Prime Minister advising a monarch not to give royal assent to a bill that both Houses of Parliament have passed. So what is being hinted at is literally without precedent.
I don’t really understand why anyone thinks the Prime Minister even has a role in this process, never mind a veto.
If MPs back the extension and refuse to give Johnson an election before 31st October, then from what he said just now he either has to resign or break the law.
Boris will of course refuse to implement an extension using the royal prerogative and would not be breaking the law as Bills need royal signature to become law.
Though Corbyn said today he would back an election regardless despite Blair warning Corbyn Boris had set an 'elephant trap' for him
Boris Johnson is not yet the Queen.
The Queen does what Boris says as she showed when she prorogued Parliament at his request, he is her Chief Minister after all unless the Commons votes for an election or another Chief Minister
The Queen will think long and hard about becoming the first monarch since Queen Anne to withhold assent. It would be a hugely political act for her to undertake, with or without the Prime Minister’s advice. It would be as controversial as her dismissing the Prime Minister herself.
I’d expect the private secretary to put immense pressure on Boris not to be an idiot
Boris is desperate to pull together his party by becoming BXP, which requires being as Brexity as humanly possible, why would he not take any action to achieve that, and not be humiliated as the shortest serving PM in history, just because of difficulty it caused someone else or an institution?
I really can’t cope with any more redwood without being physically sick, it’s gone beyond insults telling us we need to get this behind us so that he can deliver his slash and burn vision for the U.K. which only benefits the rich
I don’t believe that there has been a single case ever of a Prime Minister advising a monarch not to give royal assent to a bill that both Houses of Parliament have passed. So what is being hinted at is literally without precedent.
So Boris might well do it and defend it with a whinge that Bercow started this?
I don't know why everyone is so surprised on here.
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
I was just going to say he makes a refreshing change from May.
If MPs back the extension and refuse to give Johnson an election before 31st October, then from what he said just now he either has to resign or break the law.
Boris will of course refuse to implement an extension using the royal prerogative ...
From anti Brexit ConsEurope but even it gives the Tories more than Labour plus SNP plus Plaid plus Greens combined with LDs or DUP holding the balance of power
The campaign and , therefore, equal time has not even started. Give a little bit of time.
Yes Corbyn could be pushed under 20% yet as Labour was in the European Parliament elections (while most Brexit Party voters now back the Tories most LDs in the Euros are sticking with the yellows)
I don’t believe that there has been a single case ever of a Prime Minister advising a monarch not to give royal assent to a bill that both Houses of Parliament have passed. So what is being hinted at is literally without precedent.
So Boris might well do it and defend it with a whinge that Bercow started this?
What is the “it” that he has the power to do? He is not the Queen and there is no precedent saying that the Prime Minister can counsel the Queen not to give Royal Assent.
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(I'm hard of hearing).
The Conservative Party is not the only one that has lost the plot.
Expect Boris to use it every day in the campaign. With lethal effect.
So I’m in Liverpool overnight go take younger twin to the Keith Haring exhibition at Tate Liverpool and we are in Amalia (a proper Italian restaurant) with all Italian staff.
Younger twin has just ordered the Hawaiian pizza to the complete disgust of the staff
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1168553425405128704
http://hurryupharry.org/2019/09/02/check-and-mate/
Is Boris Johnson prepared to put the Queen through that?
Parliament have to agree it.
Since we have proved incapable as a country of progressing this, perhaps we need wiser heads to give us advice on what is achievable.
Though even if Boris does not win a majority I cannot see Corbyn becoming PM, Swinson would almost certainly be Kingmaker and veto him
To quote my inner DUP
no no no no
And there was much rejoicing...
https://twitter.com/karenwales66/status/1168571715666030593?s=21
and this:
https://twitter.com/karenwales66/status/1168480045138087936?s=21
What do you think happens to the Monarchy if the marxists get in?
If he says, I don't mind very much whether I get a deal, my selected date is more important than the outcome, some people would buy that. He's not saying that however.
What does the PB brains trust think about whether the new Benn bill requires Queen's Consent for accepting the extension? HY gets some cop for his view lower down the thread but I think there's some confusion in there between Royal assent and Queen's Consent. Surely forcing the PM into accepting an extension affects the Crown's prerogative power? If it does, then the Govt can kill the bill at the third reading.
Note that the person who gets to make the call on whether it affects prerogative power is a chap called John Bercow. He made a (predictably wrong and) bold call on that point in the Cooper-Letwin bill when the HoL tweaked it.
But if Bercow said it doesn't affect prerogative power, the power to negotiate and conclude treaties (obviously) is unchanged by the legislation, and HMG can refuse to accept the extension offered. That's why there has been such an emphasis on getting a Minister to say they will abide by the legislation.
"Boris will trounce the non-believers. He will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp. There is no presence of remainer infidels in the city of London. God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of the will-o-the-people. Praise be to Comical Ali"
Johnson was elected to re-unite the Right, get Brexit done, and win an election.
Every single thing he has done has been in service of those goals, and to accomplish them he had had to act with an aggression and decisiveness that is only shocking because it follows 3 years of May doing almost literally nothing.
Brexit MEP on R5 confirms if Hammond et al are deselected then Brexit Party will only stand against Labour and Lib Dem remoaners.
Let's see what happens.
My reading is that Corbyn will vote for a General Election. Not least because he has been asking for one for two years, and his unique selling point is that he is a straightforward politician.
He is not a devious little shit like Blair.
I don't know what will happen in the General Election, but Boris merely has not to lose too badly. (He may win of course). Provided Boris does not lose badly, whoever takes power after the Election will be just as impotent and crippled as the Tory Gov'ts over the last 2 years.
It is the best way out for Boris.
If you were genuinely interested in the good of the country (which you are not), then you would gaze into the abyss facing us with no-deal and look at taking a little step backwards.
That doesn't have to mean the end of Brexit. But it does mean we don't have to step joyously over the edge.
But I daresay you'll be okay, with your expensive wines and foreign jaunts.
I don’t really understand why anyone thinks the Prime Minister even has a role in this process, never mind a veto.
Voters opposed further extension by 47% to 41% with Survation at the weekend and backed the Queen asserting to proroguing Parliament by a 20% margin.
56% of Monarchists voted Leave and 65% of Republicans voted Remain so the Queen would also just be delivering for her base
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/05/18/who-are-monarchists
Probably worth noting they're quite big books.