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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,238
    edited July 2019
    AndyJS said:

    Boris setting up Raab as his natural successor.

    Hardly.

    The choice is a combination of a gesture towards the no dealers, and Bush picking Dan Quayle.



    Though 'natural' in its archaic sense is apt.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842

    Laura K reporting this is now biggest clear out of a cabinet outside a change of party in power.

    She is a bit late coming to that conclusion. It was that a number of hours ago
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    Laura has upgraded the Javid chancellor move to "expected"
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,707
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    JohnO said:

    Ross Thompson dead cert as replacement. Hic.

    LOL, how far the mighty have fallen , how bad does it have to be that you have to dredge to such a level, the man aspires to be a cretin.
    Eliza, can you request your drunken first-year programmers at the Uni of Strathclyde to insert the humour, politeness and positivity subroutines back into your program please? ;)
    Truth must out Josias, country is going down the plughole with this lot for sure
    There is a slight chance he might put the plug in in time. But it is remote.

    ('putting the plug in' might mean something very different to Boris.)
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006

    IanB2 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Bloody hell. Even fans of Dominic Raab didn't expect this.
    How reliable are her job tips? No one else is reporting them
    It lines up with what Steven Swinford was reporting earlier.

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1153984555403096064
    Hunts gone.

    Purge of the moderates to be replaced by Patel Raab Williamson

    Great day for Labour
    Even better day for the Lib Dems!
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798
    Seems that Hunt's been fired to spend more time with his family.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,847

    dixiedean said:

    This screams prorogation to me. Mmmm.

    To me it looks more like Boris wants to ram through a deal so is packing the payroll vote and banking on the sacked to support him on policy grounds.
    Surely the way to do that would be the opposite, put people who disagree with you on the payroll vote and have backbenchers who agree with you!
    But agree on what? The suggestion is he is packing the payroll vote with headbangers so they have to support his Brexit deal, while relying on the sacked MPs to vote for a deal because they think it is better than no deal.
    Ok, I see, that makes some sense.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,814
    This is a starting gun for an election. No doubt in my mind.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131

    viewcode said:

    I am sure Boris does not intend to leave with No Deal.

    I'm a bit disappointed to hear you say that. Given his behaviour I think it's entirely possible. I'd say that it's likely in fact, but YMMV.

    I don't have any sort of inside knowledge of the new administration. It just seems fairly obvious that avoiding No Deal is manifestly in any administration's interests. All the more so if it doesn't have a majority!
    You're assuming that Boris cares about the people of the country or the administration. He just might be loyal to himself and nobody else. If no-deal wins him an election (and @HYUFD has frequently advanced scenarios where it does) then he will no-deal regardless of any bad effects to other people.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    No ifs or buts ! Lol that's always followed by a U turn
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,238
    AndyJS said:

    Two Brains Priti Patel is about to get one of the most important jobs in government.

    Two brain cells.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    Hehe.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    Has WilliamGlenn popped up yet to point out this is all part of Boris’s secret masterplan to discredit all the Leavers in Government, and Brexit once and for all, so he can Remain in the EU and lead us into the Euro?

    Johnson is going all out. Not sure if it will work, but if it fails, I suspect Brexit will fall with him. The reaction against everything Johnson related will be total.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842
    Javid confirmed
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    If Grayling has gone... that has to be good news.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,291
    Javid officially appointed Chancellor.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    harsh on Rochdale but you got Swinson to a tee, though you missed out rampant fibber.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Have to laugh at the mock shock and horror that those who backed Hunt are not being preferred. I thought this was a betting site? Surely gamblers should understand that those who back the winnings horse get the winnings?

    Hunt and his supporters lost the election fair and square. Boris had the backing of over 150 MPs didn't he?Theoretically he could easily fulfil every ministerial role only with those who backed him.

    Other than Mordaunt still not seen any names going to backbenches to regret. In fact Arkhangelsk those like May, Hammond and failing Grayling out this is a good day.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,217
    Javid chancellor now... "Heard" get in ...Kerching !
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    Now we see why Bozo didn’t bother writing a memorable speech.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Guess the prices could bounce around insanely in the next week, but for what it's worth …..

    https://twitter.com/smarkets/status/1154078044421861376
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,903

    Jezbollah still responding to every single thing that ever happens with "we need a general election". So call a confidence vote you gutless scum coward.

    We've been here before - he was pushed into a VONC vote against May which strengthened her. It's worse than useless unless you think you might win. Putting one on dissolution day to be voted on when they get back sounds a more interesting tactic.
    So why doesn't he shut up then?
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,084
    nico67 said:

    nico67 said:

    Has anyone heard the background music on Sky News .

    I know it’s from a horror film but can’t place it .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1PH_Y8Xn4g
    Brilliant thanks . Perhaps the theme to Titanic would have been more appropriate !
    Horror Movie?

    Psycho I'd have thought.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me-VhC9ieh0
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    :lol:
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    By your “warmongerer” comment, I’m presuming you weren’t a member of the Labour party during the Blair years?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,491
    The Saj as CoE is the only appointment I’m really happy with so far.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    There's something of the Kim Jongun about these sackings. A new side of Boris Johnson - to me at least.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,707

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    Why should any decent, genuine, Labour person listen to a denier and excuser of anti-Semitism?
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469

    dixiedean said:

    This screams prorogation to me. Mmmm.

    To me it looks more like Boris wants to ram through a deal so is packing the payroll vote and banking on the sacked to support him on policy grounds.
    Surely the way to do that would be the opposite, put people who disagree with you on the payroll vote and have backbenchers who agree with you!
    But agree on what? The suggestion is he is packing the payroll vote with headbangers so they have to support his Brexit deal, while relying on the sacked MPs to vote for a deal because they think it is better than no deal.
    But then both Francois and Baker will have to be in the government.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    FF43 said:

    There's something of the Kim Jongun about these sackings. A new side of Boris Johnson - to me at least.

    In terms of bold decisiveness, perhaps. In terms of wanting yes-speaking acolytes and no intellectual challenges from potential rivals, no.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    Whichever ones her Fracking and Tory masters say she has.

    More Tory than most Tories says her voting record

    Consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees, despite promising not to as one of the key policies that helped elect many Lib Dem MPs in 2010. Her track record on environmental issues, meanwhile, shows she supported the badger cull, fracking and HS2.

    SO consumed with hatred for Labour that you no longer care how bad Swinsons Tory collaboration was

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Ms “I’ve got Advanced A Level Maths” Truss won’t be best pleased.....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    Jezza needs only to be told by a few Tory rebels (aka sane branch of Conservative Party) that they would VoNC and he goes for it tomorrow.

    I am sure there are channels of communication available.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131

    Laura K reporting this is now biggest clear out of a cabinet outside a change of party in power.

    It is a change of party in power. The Conservative Party is renewing itself. Think of it as a regeneration... :)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,490

    The Saj as CoE is the only appointment I’m really happy with so far.

    I agree, I think he'll do great.

  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,605
    Today was going to be an alcohol free day but I've just poured myself a very large scotch.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,679
    God I hate Brexiteers, they've fucked the Conservative party and very soon they will fuck the country.

    Worse than Mark Reckless the lot of them.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    Whichever ones her Fracking and Tory masters say she has.

    More Tory than most Tories says her voting record

    Consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees, despite promising not to as one of the key policies that helped elect many Lib Dem MPs in 2010. Her track record on environmental issues, meanwhile, shows she supported the badger cull, fracking and HS2.

    SO consumed with hatred for Labour that you no longer care how bad Swinsons Tory collaboration was

    You are so rattled; it’s a sight to behold.

    Is Jo Swinson living rent free in your head?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772

    Ms “I’ve got Advanced A Level Maths” Truss won’t be best pleased.....
    At least that appointment is not stark bonkers on a Nixon level like the other rumoured ones are.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    By your “warmongerer” comment, I’m presuming you weren’t a member of the Labour party during the Blair years?
    I’m guessing he was. A transparent attempt to displace his guilt.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,237
    The clearest sign of a new spirit of optimism and global 'can do' is surely the elevation of Priti Patel and Dominic Raab to two of the major offices of state. Great news.

    But sacking Chris Grayling just for a cheap headline? No. That is a gratuitous abuse of power which is not to be applauded.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    By your “warmongerer” comment, I’m presuming you weren’t a member of the Labour party during the Blair years?
    Left it on the eve of the invasion and voted LD at following GE
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,720
    Does Donald Trump know the difference between Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,653

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    Whichever ones her Fracking and Tory masters say she has.

    More Tory than most Tories says her voting record

    Consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees, despite promising not to as one of the key policies that helped elect many Lib Dem MPs in 2010. Her track record on environmental issues, meanwhile, shows she supported the badger cull, fracking and HS2.

    SO consumed with hatred for Labour that you no longer care how bad Swinsons Tory collaboration was

    Corbyn and Johnson are wonderful news for the LibDems, especially now that Johnson has embraced the hard right. I’m sorry you can’t see that, but it’s true. I would prefer a Labour Party that could defeat the Tories. Sadly, though, that’s not what Labour members want.

  • FlannerFlanner Posts: 437
    Cicero said:

    ON THREAD

    As a totally tribal Liberal Democrat I genuinely feel sympathy for Richard. I am as committed to the ideals of my own party as he has been to his and although the Lib Dems test me occasionally, the bonds of friendship alone keep me on the campaign trail.

    However in the 6 hours that BoJo has been PM, this shuffle confirms every one of everyone's worst fears about him.

    The guy is taking a wrecking ball to party unity and whereas Mrs. May alienated her opponents, Johnson is alienating his allies.

    How long before the first "Boris has blown it" headline?

    It's over half a century since I joined the Liberal Party. Not once have I felt remotely as strongly as I do now that we really are the only option. And that - just possibly - Providence may have given us the leader we need to make the most of the position we're in.

    The fat thug seems determined to demonstrate it's possible to be more dangerous than Corbyn and more doomed to failure than May. We really are the only party committed to healthy, democratic, capitalism.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Good to see Hunt sacked. I liked him but turning his nose down at Defence was disgusting. Our Armed Forces deserve better than to be scorned.

    Who does he think he is to demand any job? He lost fair and square. Had he won I doubt he would have given Boris a Great Office of State and he would have been entitled to pick the team he wanted.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Preston reporting Hunt was offered Defence.
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    Even Grayling at Home Office would have been better. This person is just a thicko.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842
    Abbott would be far worse
  • eekeek Posts: 28,406
    Is he trying to make Labour's front bench look good?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,772
    I see Johnson doesn't care about lying to a PM.

    Figures I guess.
  • ZephyrZephyr Posts: 438
    malcolmg said:

    Cicero said:

    malcolmg said:

    Whether or not you like them as people or approve of their politics, there is something worth noting about having two of the three big cabinet jobs taken by people of colour.

    Of course promotions to these jobs should be on merit - but it is still a significant step in terms of representation

    Garbage , race , colour , creed should play no part in it, talent should be the only prerequisite. It is coming to it when we are putting people in charge of the country purely based on their colour, we are nearing the bottom.
    Blast. I hate agreeing with you. I feel unclean. :wink:
    I am usually right and always truthful, you are in good company.
    I am not sure I agree. How do you smash glass ceilings with your approach? It’s like you are saying humans don’t contain subjectivity and prejudice can decide purely objectively.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    By your “warmongerer” comment, I’m presuming you weren’t a member of the Labour party during the Blair years?
    Left it on the eve of the invasion and voted LD at following GE
    In which case, fair play to you sir.

    (A curious mirror of my own situation: left the LDs after many years during the coalition, briefly joined the Greens, voted for EICIPM, but now returned to the LDs.)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    malcolmg said:

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    harsh on Rochdale but you got Swinson to a tee, though you missed out rampant fibber.
    Rochdale reminds me of so called football "supporters" who want their team to lose 8-0 every week so the manager gets sacked.

    Just give up the season ticket and go and support a non league side.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    I see Johnson doesn't care about lying to a PM.

    Figures I guess.

    Penny Mordaunt was presumably sacked because the quota of unabashed liars in the Cabinet has been reached.
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469

    Ms “I’ve got Advanced A Level Maths” Truss won’t be best pleased.....
    So Truss' arse-licking got her nowhere - so far.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    edited July 2019
    There is nothing much happening this evening so if you fancy watching a documentary about Macmillan's Night of the Long Knives when he cleared out half the Cabinet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwpKCXirC8
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Good to see Hunt sacked. I liked him but turning his nose down at Defence was disgusting. Our Armed Forces deserve better than to be scorned.

    Who does he think he is to demand any job? He lost fair and square. Had he won I doubt he would have given Boris a Great Office of State and he would have been entitled to pick the team he wanted.

    I couldn't agree more. Dreadful to think he was too good for Defence.
  • ZephyrZephyr Posts: 438

    The picture is a fist pump between two anti EU on their success so far.
    The actual picture behind is a Canaletto?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,814
    Do the public really react to cabinet reshuffles? A good number I know probably couldn’t name 5 cabinet ministers (they will probably be able to name much fewer after today, admittedly!)
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    God I hate Brexiteers, they've fucked the Conservative party and very soon they will fuck the country.

    Worse than Mark Reckless the lot of them.

    May fucked the country and if it wasn't for Ruth Davidson would have lost the election and we would have PM Corbyn.

    If zero of her cabinet were left after the reshuffle it wouldn't have been the worst thing.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,131
    Oh fuck Rutger Hauer has died.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842

    There is nothing much happening tonight so if you fancy watching a documentary about Macmillan's Night of the Long Knives when he cleared out half the Cabinet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwpKCXirC8

    7 people were sacked.

    that isn't even close to what we have seen so far today

    (and the list of those leaving government will grow as we move into the junior ranks)
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019

    Ms “I’ve got Advanced A Level Maths” Truss won’t be best pleased.....
    So Truss' arse-licking got her nowhere - so far.
    She looked happy enough going into No 10 just now.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    It's an ill wind that bows nobody any good. Priti Patel as HS is stark raving bonkers but it won't do Hislop any harm
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    AndyJS said:

    Good to see Hunt sacked. I liked him but turning his nose down at Defence was disgusting. Our Armed Forces deserve better than to be scorned.

    Who does he think he is to demand any job? He lost fair and square. Had he won I doubt he would have given Boris a Great Office of State and he would have been entitled to pick the team he wanted.

    I couldn't agree more. Dreadful to think he was too good for Defence.
    You would not have seen Theresa May give top jobs to the also-rans in her leadership election (except for all of them, including Boris of the FO).
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,005
    eek said:

    https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1154067867429740547

    In other news how on earth did they make new twitter worse than the previous version...

    There may be other simpler methods, but you can get back to the previous format by:

    More>Settings & Privacy>About Twitter>Directory

    Then click on Home.

    It only lasts for the session you're logged in for but worth it I find.

  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Do the public really react to cabinet reshuffles? A good number I know probably couldn’t name 5 cabinet ministers (they will probably be able to name much fewer after today, admittedly!)
    I expect the public to pick up on the sheer scale of the reshuffle and the hard right turn.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,903

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    Hi John. Here's our basic problem. He is democratically elected (you missed out "twice" - check your script it is supposed to come before democratically). Which matters nothing when Labour party voters are dumping us en masse.

    Jezbollah wouldn't know political strategy if it ripped up the marrows in his allotment. I am sick of knocking doors where its marked L all the way across the sheet - solid Labour voters going back years - who are no longer voting for us because of Him. So yes, he can do one. Because He, not me, is the liability. He is the one ensuring that we stay in permanent opposition

    As for the Blair reference, I say this: Tough on Corbyn, Tough on the Causes of Corbyn. My now former branch chair who set up the "Labour Gentiles Forum" in response to being "suppressed" by "right wing Jewish zealots" has quit before he was expelled as is now openly supporting the Brexit Party. Not that we have lost anything as he openly refused to vote Labour in the Euros having openly refused to campaign in the locals despite him being a candidate. He and his Corbyn worshipping tossers had of course agreed with you that I - not they - was the problem. No. No. No.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    Patel as Home Secretary is a shocker.
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    More Ministers were sacked than wickets fell at Lords today !
  • chloechloe Posts: 308
    Sajid aside it seems No deal Brexit conviction is more important that competence for the top jobs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163

    This reshuffle is shaping up as vengeful and stupid.

    It does look excessively personal

    But I do believe that any incoming PM has the right to completely reshape their team. No-one should expect to stay in post
    Seems reasonable. May not always be smart, but keeping people is not always smart.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    kinabalu said:

    The clearest sign of a new spirit of optimism and global 'can do' is surely the elevation of Priti Patel and Dominic Raab to two of the major offices of state. Great news.

    But sacking Chris Grayling just for a cheap headline? No. That is a gratuitous abuse of power which is not to be applauded.

    Grayling seems to have resigned, despite Johnson pledging support. Unless there's some joke here I've missed?
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469

    Ms “I’ve got Advanced A Level Maths” Truss won’t be best pleased.....
    So Truss' arse-licking got her nowhere - so far.
    She looked happy enough going into No 10 just now.
    Business Secretary ?

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    Whichever ones her Fracking and Tory masters say she has.

    More Tory than most Tories says her voting record

    Consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees, despite promising not to as one of the key policies that helped elect many Lib Dem MPs in 2010. Her track record on environmental issues, meanwhile, shows she supported the badger cull, fracking and HS2.

    SO consumed with hatred for Labour that you no longer care how bad Swinsons Tory collaboration was

    Corbyn and Johnson are wonderful news for the LibDems, especially now that Johnson has embraced the hard right. I’m sorry you can’t see that, but it’s true. I would prefer a Labour Party that could defeat the Tories. Sadly, though, that’s not what Labour members want.

    You would prefer a Labour Party that continued the Thatcher Blair Concensus Liz 4% Kendall your choice i seem to remember

    Hence you liking Swinson who voted with the Tory whip more than almost any Tory.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    AndyJS said:

    Good to see Hunt sacked. I liked him but turning his nose down at Defence was disgusting. Our Armed Forces deserve better than to be scorned.

    Who does he think he is to demand any job? He lost fair and square. Had he won I doubt he would have given Boris a Great Office of State and he would have been entitled to pick the team he wanted.

    I couldn't agree more. Dreadful to think he was too good for Defence.
    You would not have seen Theresa May give top jobs to the also-rans in her leadership election (except for all of them, including Boris of the FO).
    Yes May did that except for Osborne and it was part of her being a disaster.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,005
    edited July 2019
    viewcode said:

    Oh fuck Rutger Hauer has died.

    Bugger. It's never not time for this.

    https://youtu.be/NoAzpa1x7jU
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,605

    I want to know what lottery numbers Jo Swinson has this week.

    Whichever ones her Fracking and Tory masters say she has.

    More Tory than most Tories says her voting record

    Consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees, despite promising not to as one of the key policies that helped elect many Lib Dem MPs in 2010. Her track record on environmental issues, meanwhile, shows she supported the badger cull, fracking and HS2.

    SO consumed with hatred for Labour that you no longer care how bad Swinsons Tory collaboration was

    You seem a bit rattled BigJohn. Not your usual amiable self.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    First Secretary of State? Has Boris made Raab his deputy?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,903

    malcolmg said:

    Corbyn is a gormless gutless clueless cretin. He knows that however excretingly bad Shagger's cabinet looks - and its spectacular so far - it'll still be more popular than he is
    You should leave the Party if you are so consumed with bile and hatred for our democratically elected leader.

    You are no longer an asset to the Labour cause you are a liability.

    I know these things I am an accountant.

    Perhaps Ms Swinson the austerity collaborator and war mongerer is more to your taste.
    harsh on Rochdale but you got Swinson to a tee, though you missed out rampant fibber.
    Rochdale reminds me of so called football "supporters" who want their team to lose 8-0 every week so the manager gets sacked.

    Just give up the season ticket and go and support a non league side.
    I want the manager sacked because we ARE losing 8-0 every week
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,313
    Richard Nabavi has encapsulated the views of many moderate Tories in this piece. After almost 20 years of membership and some years as a member of my local party executive, I too have resigned.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    Do you still think Labour are going to win the next election @bigjohnowls?
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    Is Raab the new No.2 ? Where is Gove in all this ?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    So Raab is effectively Deputy PM too.

    Fucking bizarre.
  • Okay I did the big three, I'm away to eat Chinese, feel free to sub-contract yourselves-

    https://twitter.com/10downingstreet
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Another of the Bozo arse lickers Hancock now going into blow Bozo and pledge total loyalty to the Great Leader .
  • surbiton19surbiton19 Posts: 1,469
    After this carnage, will someone who was appointed today, resign tomorrow ?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    Richard Nabavi has encapsulated the views of many moderate Tories in this piece. After almost 20 years of membership and some years as a member of my local party executive, I too have resigned.

    Can I interest you in one of these? 👉 🔶
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