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Having experienced your disenchantment and disappointment 3 years ago when May was chosen it isn't something I would wish on anyone. I feel like all my worst fears came true with May. I hope for all our sakes that your fears with Boris don't come true and that before long you can feel free to rejoin.
The Conservative Party is exactly that, a conservative party committed to national sovereignty, tradition etc, if you are really a globalist free trader above all you are ideologically really an Orange Book LD
The truly tragic thing is that we’re ensuring a Corbyn Premiership with Johnson’s approach.
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Thank you Malcolm, as a fellow Celt help yourself to a brandy!
Fenster , I bought a nice Woodford Reserve Bourbon at the weekend I will indulge and toast your good health tonight.
The reason I ask is that we are abroad for about 6 weeks in September/October and I have just discovered that I cannot appoint a proxy without knowing the date of the election I want it for.
The problem is I could well be abroad by the time I know a date and talking to the Electoral Registration office trying to do it whilst abroad sounds a bit hit and miss to say the least. It's a bit of a Catch-22. Anybody got any suggestions?
You are one of the most courteous and sensible Tories I have encountered (despite my occasional ribbing of you).
The contemptuous reaction from the new model party representatives in the comments, to the decision of so long standing a member, suggests that you made the right judgment.
Or take the form with you and complete and send it to the council from abroad, as soon as you hear the news.
Or appoint a permanent proxy for all future elections and then cancel this when you get back. (Edit/ although on reflection this might fall foul of having a good reason)
https://twitter.com/RyanHillMI/status/1154044858580869129
It's not your party anymore.
I thought May was massively unsuited to leadership. Not unsuited to a cabinet role, but very much unsuited to leading a political party in modern times.
My instinct is that Boris will be much better at it. A better delegator, communicator and listener.
The circumstances in which both of them have had to operate as PM are obviously very tough, but May was a disastrous pick from the start for me. I just couldn't get my head round it.
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My membership depends on Boris getting a deal but without that I will follow Richard
You believe the UK should remain in the EU and that makes you a remainer enemy of Boris' administration.
Not wanting a no deal Brexit doesn't make one a Lib Dem.
The single issue infatuation of some of the current Conservative party makes me wonder if they really belong in whatever Farage is calling his cult band of followers.
It's disappointing.
What is pathetic is when political parties whine that supporters leave them. Those supporters and members dont owe anything to the new leader. If Boris does well and he fells leaving was a mistake he'll say so.
Quite witty, too.
He has a big (arguably insurmountable) task on his hand to tackle Brexit, but I imagine his leadership will be similar to that of his mayoral stint.
Sustained No Deal = A Corbyn Premiership
Leaving in an orderly fashion in say March 2020 = Should ensure the Tories remain the largest party in Parliament, do you honestly think in May 2022 Leavers will be upset that we didn't Leave in October 2019 that they'll vote Brexit party.
We're not ready for No Deal in October, we need to pass a dozen bills including a trade bill and financial services bill and we do not have the time to do so. On November 1st government revenues are going to fall of a cliff.
Don't worry the financial services sector doesn't contribute that much to the Exchequer.
By far and away the greatest risk to the Conservative (and indeed to the UK's democratic integrity) would be a failure to deliver on Brexit. On that basis May has proven so far to be infinitely worse, less competent and more dangerous than Johnson to both her country and her party.
Salisbury won multiple elections on it in the 19th century as did Disraeli against the Liberals
Unlike you I am staying in my party, then again we haven't just elected our spanner, and there is definite pressure being mustered to try and out the Jeremy. It won't work of course, but try I must.
Question - who is crazier in their possessed-by-Dracula loyalty to their respective leaders. HYUFD or Jezziah?
I would say there seems to be a ferocious reaction from those who want to stop brexit indicating they must be worried Boris does succeed
Pick the least worst. It is your vote!
https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1154044277338415104?s=21
In any case on current polls the main beneficiaries of No Deal would be the LDs as more Remainers are voting LD with Yougov today than for Corbyn Labour
There was a good interview with GoD earlier, where he went through the process of “onboarding” a new PM. He kisses the Queen’s hand, goes to 10DS, gets the security briefing, then needs to write coherent and personal responses to a dozen or more world leaders who will be calling on the phone to offer their congratulations.
I do wonder whether we will soon see an attempt to found a successor party. There are some obvious problems:
- CHUK already tried and failed
- They might be blamed for bringing down the government/letting in Corbyn
- In the present situation, it's not necessary for the immediate goal of influencing the government, since a caucus can be formed within the Parliamentary conservative party.
However for the longer term, it's not obvious that the sane faction can do much within the existing party other than fight a losing battle, as they will be under threat from deselection. To provide a sane version of the conservatives, it may be necessary to 'dismiss the membership and elect another', IE, form a new party.
Some advantages:
- Business, rather than the membership, has always been the major support of the party anyway. Businesses may be receptive to an alternative to Boris 'F*ck Business' Johnson.
- 96,000 members may not me that hard to replace, given enough funding.
- It should be fairly easy not to make the same mistakes as CHUK. Some obvious names, for example: 'Serious Conservatives' , 'Sensible Conservatives', or even 'Sane Conservatives' (Not sure what the Electoral Commission rules are exactly, but they don't seem to completely object to other parties with 'Conservative' or 'Labour' in the name).
- Boris will need a coalition with someone, and may actually not mind giving up the 31st Oct date as long as someone else forces him to do so.
One thing the CHUKkers proves though, is that a few defectors is not enough. It has to be a mass exodus or nothing. How many MPs are up for it?
https://twitter.com/liamfox/status/1154058729949671424?s=21