We might see the Lib Dems leading in the polls if they have a bounce after winning the by-election. I wonder if a few Tory MPs might suspect that they were worried about the wrong threat when they panicked about the Brexit Party?
From recent statements they aren't worried about LDs or TBP. It is all about beating Corbyn. Would be ironic if Bozza pulled that off, only to find he finished third.
If they can beat Corbyn, then Swinson could be PM. It’s not so far fetched.
My suspicion is that even a stellar LD vote total, in excess of Lab, will leave them well short in seats. Any deal with Lab would almost certainly see a Lab PM in that circumstance (although I'm not convinced it would be Corbyn unless he was very close to a majority).
For Swinson to be PM, I'd imagine she needs to lead the largest party in a coalition. I don't see the maths of LD/SNP/PC/Green having a majority.. so she'd have to win more seats than Lab.
Long way off but two possibilities strike me. One, would be LibDem + SNP. I know that may seem extremely unlikely now but who knows?
The other is LibDem + moderate Labour. This has real plausibility to me esp if Corbyn loses again.
But if the LibDems continue their trajectory and Boris bombs all this will be moot. The greatest seismic change in British politics will not be Faragists, but the LibDems winning more than 325 seats outright.
Re Ipsos. Just produced polling in Canada and they are on their own having Cons 7 points clear whilst all the other polls have Liberals in the lead between1 and 3%
One interesting and largely unremarked polling finding is this. In a POST Brexit election, 14% would still vote BXP. What else in their manifesto is so appealing?
We might see the Lib Dems leading in the polls if they have a bounce after winning the by-election. I wonder if a few Tory MPs might suspect that they were worried about the wrong threat when they panicked about the Brexit Party?
From recent statements they aren't worried about LDs or TBP. It is all about beating Corbyn. Would be ironic if Bozza pulled that off, only to find he finished third.
If they can beat Corbyn, then Swinson could be PM. It’s not so far fetched.
My suspicion is that even a stellar LD vote total, in excess of Lab, will leave them well short in seats. Any deal with Lab would almost certainly see a Lab PM in that circumstance (although I'm not convinced it would be Corbyn unless he was very close to a majority).
For Swinson to be PM, I'd imagine she needs to lead the largest party in a coalition. I don't see the maths of LD/SNP/PC/Green having a majority.. so she'd have to win more seats than Lab.
Long way off but two possibilities strike me. One, would be LibDem + SNP. I know that may seem extremely unlikely now but who knows?
The other is LibDem + moderate Labour. This has real plausibility to me esp if Corbyn loses again.
But if the LibDems continue their trajectory and Boris bombs all this will be moot. The greatest seismic change in British politics will not be Faragists, but the LibDems winning more than 325 seats outright.
We might see the Lib Dems leading in the polls if they have a bounce after winning the by-election. I wonder if a few Tory MPs might suspect that they were worried about the wrong threat when they panicked about the Brexit Party?
From recent statements they aren't worried about LDs or TBP. It is all about beating Corbyn. Would be ironic if Bozza pulled that off, only to find he finished third.
If they can beat Corbyn, then Swinson could be PM. It’s not so far fetched.
My suspicion is that even a stellar LD vote total, in excess of Lab, will leave them well short in seats. Any deal with Lab would almost certainly see a Lab PM in that circumstance (although I'm not convinced it would be Corbyn unless he was very close to a majority).
For Swinson to be PM, I'd imagine she needs to lead the largest party in a coalition. I don't see the maths of LD/SNP/PC/Green having a majority.. so she'd have to win more seats than Lab.
There has to be a tipping point under FPTP and it will depend on distribution of votes between types of seats and geography. If it comes down to Remain vs Leave and LbDems can beat Labour handily, it will then depend on how the Leave vote splits between Brexit Party and Tories. Very difficult to call, I'd say.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
We might see the Lib Dems leading in the polls if they have a bounce after winning the by-election. I wonder if a few Tory MPs might suspect that they were worried about the wrong threat when they panicked about the Brexit Party?
From recent statements they aren't worried about LDs or TBP. It is all about beating Corbyn. Would be ironic if Bozza pulled that off, only to find he finished third.
If they can beat Corbyn, then Swinson could be PM. It’s not so far fetched.
My suspicion is that even a stellar LD vote total, in excess of Lab, will leave them well short in seats. Any deal with Lab would almost certainly see a Lab PM in that circumstance (although I'm not convinced it would be Corbyn unless he was very close to a majority).
For Swinson to be PM, I'd imagine she needs to lead the largest party in a coalition. I don't see the maths of LD/SNP/PC/Green having a majority.. so she'd have to win more seats than Lab.
There has to be a tipping point under FPTP and it will depend on distribution of votes between types of seats and geography. If it comes down to Remain vs Leave and LbDems can beat Labour handily, it will then depend on how the Leave vote splits between Brexit Party and Tories. Very difficult to call, I'd say.
Re Ipsos. Just produced polling in Canada and they are on their own having Cons 7 points clear whilst all the other polls have Liberals in the lead between1 and 3%
Liberal - NDP coalition?
No tradition of coalitions in Canada. Will be a minority government, if no majority. Unless something changes.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
Bought him at 76 and sold out my stake at 48. He's shown no signs of going anywhere after a small surge to take him ahead of the 1% field but could have debate upside.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I agree. There have been many false dawns, but 50 or more seats is very possible at next GE.
So my constituency, Ealing Central & Acton, went from a super-marginal to a 14k Lab majority. Plenty of disgruntled remain Cons voters voting Lab as told to me on the doorstep. LDs with 3k (33k for Lab, 19k for Cons [a Boris leaver]).
The numbers are big but after a 2017 10k vote switch between the main parties I would have thought that the seat automatically becomes a LibDem target.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I think this is accurate but only as long as Corbyn remains Labour leader. Whether fair or not, the Lib Dems do not have a reputation of being a serious party that one would expect to produce a PM. An extended period of being ahead of Labour because Corbyn is still in place may change people's views on that but, just as Tory hopes rest on Boris producing a non-disastrous Brexit, so Lib Dem hopes rest on Corbyn remaining leader of the Labour party for at least the next couple of years.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I think this is accurate but only as long as Corbyn remains Labour leader. [...] so Lib Dem hopes rest on Corbyn remaining leader of the Labour party for at least the next couple of years.
I totally agree, and nearly added that caveat.
If Labour had a half-decent leader they would probably rocket.
I can't see the LDs becoming the largest party but I can see the price for any grand coalition involving the LDs and SNP (plus others) will involve IndyRef2
If that passes, Swinson has a choice to make - find and win a new seat or depart the scene.
You can't be party leader when your seat is about to disappear due to Scotland ceasing to be part of the union.
That useless twonk, Corbyn, is asking us all to join in a rally tomorrow asking for .....drum roll ..... a General Election.
Why the fuck doesn’t he just table a VoNC?
If Boris did go for a GE, I don’t even think he would demand an extension of Art. 50 as the price for it.
No I think on this Corbyn is absolutely right. This has been discussed widely across the opposition. Timing is everything. If the VONC falls, as it likely tomorrow, it will fortify Boris for the summer. It will be much better to leave the fool (Boris that is, not Corbyn) to start making plenty of errors and enemies through the rest of the summer and then hit him hard in early September when minds will be very focused on the looming exit date.
Corbyn has got this one right.
"Now is not the time"
A common theme for May, her enemies, Corbyn, his enemies, and Boris and his opposition and enemies too I expect.
Yeah, yeah: manana, manana, jam tomorrow, excuses, excuses.
All bullshit, I’m sorry to say.
He’s not doing it because he wants a No Deal Brexit, wants that to happen under the Tories, doesn’t want all the bother of having to negotiate with the EU and wants to come to power in the chaos unleashed by such an exit with all the blame falling on the Tories.
And thanks to the ERG loons and their little helpers, he may well get his wish.
The ERG want a clean Brexit. If it happens they're not loons.
If no deal happens then every single one of the over 400 MPs who rejected the deal is responsible. If they also opposed no deal then they were loons for rejecting the only deal.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
The South of England could be very interesting. There are lots of Tory Remainers who would not vote Corbyn. They could switch to Lib Dem. Nick would be in a good position to know this.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I think this is accurate but only as long as Corbyn remains Labour leader. [...] so Lib Dem hopes rest on Corbyn remaining leader of the Labour party for at least the next couple of years.
I totally agree, and nearly added that caveat.
If Labour had a half-decent leader they would probably rocket.
Sadly (from my anti-statist viewpoint) I think that is certainly true.
The interesting point here is we are dealing with genuine unknowns in terms of future events/consequences. It is not inconceivable that we could, at the next election, see a massive Tory majority, a massive Labour majority, a clear Lib Dem majority, a narrow BXP majority or simply a massive mess with no one anywhere near a majority.
All depends on such a complex interweaving of possible outcomes it would make Stephen Strange's 14,000,605 possible futures seem predictable.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
The South of England could be very interesting. There are lots of Tory Remainers who would not vote Corbyn. They could switch to Lib Dem. Nick would be in a good position to know this.
The key question is what the LDs economic policies will be. If they want to try and overtake Labour then they will need to have quite a hard left economic agenda BUT this is not likely to appeal to Tory remainers in places like Chesham and Amersham.
I can't see the LDs becoming the largest party but I can see the price for any grand coalition involving the LDs and SNP (plus others) will involve IndyRef2
If that passes, Swinson has a choice to make - find and win a new seat or depart the scene.
You can't be party leader when your seat is about to disappear due to Scotland ceasing to be part of the union.
She has another choice - agree to it after the new government has brought in PR for Westminster.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I stand by my 12% forecast for the LibDems at a GE.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I think this is accurate but only as long as Corbyn remains Labour leader. [...] so Lib Dem hopes rest on Corbyn remaining leader of the Labour party for at least the next couple of years.
I totally agree, and nearly added that caveat.
If Labour had a half-decent leader they would probably rocket.
Sadly (from my anti-statist viewpoint) I think that is certainly true.
The interesting point here is we are dealing with genuine unknowns in terms of future events/consequences. It is not inconceivable that we could, at the next election, see a massive Tory majority, a massive Labour majority, a clear Lib Dem majority, a narrow BXP majority or simply a massive mess with no one anywhere near a majority.
All depends on such a complex interweaving of possible outcomes it would make Stephen Strange's 14,000,605 possible futures seem predictable.
You can always rely on climate protestors to make it all about themselves. Me me me, the lot of them.
Which is unfortunate because the good cause in question gets plenty of attention now without such ego boosting stuff, which just makes plenty of others who agree with the broad principle embarrassed.
Greenpeace protestors have just blocked the police outriders.
How on earth the police allowed that to happen.
I noticed that eco-fascists tried something similar on the Tour de France a few days ago....they didn't last long in the middle of the road! No plod acceptance of the Exhibition Rebellion lot in France.
So my constituency, Ealing Central & Acton, went from a super-marginal to a 14k Lab majority. Plenty of disgruntled remain Cons voters voting Lab as told to me on the doorstep. LDs with 3k (33k for Lab, 19k for Cons [a Boris leaver]).
The numbers are big but after a 2017 10k vote switch between the main parties I would have thought that the seat automatically becomes a LibDem target.
Today's Yougov crossbreaks - for what they are worth - shows Labour comfortably ahead in London again.
That useless twonk, Corbyn, is asking us all to join in a rally tomorrow asking for .....drum roll ..... a General Election.
Why the fuck doesn’t he just table a VoNC?
If Boris did go for a GE, I don’t even think he would demand an extension of Art. 50 as the price for it.
No I think on this Corbyn is absolutely right. This has been discussed widely across the opposition. Timing is everything. If the VONC falls, as it likely tomorrow, it will fortify Boris for the summer. It will be much better to leave the fool (Boris that is, not Corbyn) to start making plenty of errors and enemies through the rest of the summer and then hit him hard in early September when minds will be very focused on the looming exit date.
Corbyn has got this one right.
"Now is not the time"
A common theme for May, her enemies, Corbyn, his enemies, and Boris and his opposition and enemies too I expect.
Yeah, yeah: manana, manana, jam tomorrow, excuses, excuses.
All bullshit, I’m sorry to say.
He’s not doing it because he wants a No Deal Brexit, wants that to happen under the Tories, doesn’t want all the bother of having to negotiate with the EU and wants to come to power in the chaos unleashed by such an exit with all the blame falling on the Tories.
And thanks to the ERG loons and their little helpers, he may well get his wish.
If no deal happens then every single one of the over 400 MPs who rejected the deal is responsible
Almost. Those who voted against triggering A50, whether we agree with that choice or not, at least did not agree implicitly to no deal. Most MPs did, then moaned about no deal but refused to stop it unless it was in the one way they wanted - which means they don't actually care about stopping no deal, just winning, which is not the same thing.
The thing is surely this. Labour aren't going to get any better under Corbyn, are they? They will continue to roll along the bottom.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
I think this is accurate but only as long as Corbyn remains Labour leader. [...] so Lib Dem hopes rest on Corbyn remaining leader of the Labour party for at least the next couple of years.
I totally agree, and nearly added that caveat.
If Labour had a half-decent leader they would probably rocket.
Sadly (from my anti-statist viewpoint) I think that is certainly true.
The interesting point here is we are dealing with genuine unknowns in terms of future events/consequences. It is not inconceivable that we could, at the next election, see a massive Tory majority, a massive Labour majority, a clear Lib Dem majority, a narrow BXP majority or simply a massive mess with no one anywhere near a majority.
All depends on such a complex interweaving of possible outcomes it would make Stephen Strange's 14,000,605 possible futures seem predictable.
So my constituency, Ealing Central & Acton, went from a super-marginal to a 14k Lab majority. Plenty of disgruntled remain Cons voters voting Lab as told to me on the doorstep. LDs with 3k (33k for Lab, 19k for Cons [a Boris leaver]).
The numbers are big but after a 2017 10k vote switch between the main parties I would have thought that the seat automatically becomes a LibDem target.
There must be some very interesting seats out there where last time the Remain vote coalesced around Labour - I’m particularly thinking of Bristol West which was supposed to be a 4 way marginal and labour got a five figure majority. In those seats if Labour does not come out supporting remain in a real way you could see a huge shift in votes, although hatred of Boris might keep the vote together somewhat.
When Edward Heath left the palace in 1974 he was surprised to find that his bodyguard was about to go off in another car. Heath asked where he was going, and was told that since he wasn't PM anymore he wasn't entitled to any personal protection.
When Edward Heath left the palace in 1974 he was surprised to find that his bodyguard was about to go off in another car. Heath asked where he was going, and was told that since he wasn't PM anymore he wasn't entitled to any personal protection.
That is much the narrative Sky have applied to TM and she was not filmed leaving the palace
When Edward Heath left the palace in 1974 he was surprised to find that his bodyguard was about to go off in another car. Heath asked where he was going, and was told that since he wasn't PM anymore he wasn't entitled to any personal protection.
That is much the narrative Sky have applied to TM and she was not filmed leaving the palace
And, of course, there is still a need for a certain level of security for former PMs (and some former Cabinet ministers) but it is at a lower level
When Edward Heath left the palace in 1974 he was surprised to find that his bodyguard was about to go off in another car. Heath asked where he was going, and was told that since he wasn't PM anymore he wasn't entitled to any personal protection.
I understood that former PMs retained police protection for the rest of their lives!
When Edward Heath left the palace in 1974 he was surprised to find that his bodyguard was about to go off in another car. Heath asked where he was going, and was told that since he wasn't PM anymore he wasn't entitled to any personal protection.
That is much the narrative Sky have applied to TM and she was not filmed leaving the palace
And, of course, there is still a need for a certain level of security for former PMs (and some former Cabinet ministers) but it is at a lower level
I bet security around blair is still incredibly tight.
Extinction Rebellion, or Greenpeace, chose their moment well in terms of symbolism.
Mainly female protestors linking arms, in thin clothes, holding up all the pomp and motorcade aplomb that a state can bear down for its main occasions.
That useless twonk, Corbyn, is asking us all to join in a rally tomorrow asking for .....drum roll ..... a General Election.
Why the fuck doesn’t he just table a VoNC?
If Boris did go for a GE, I don’t even think he would demand an extension of Art. 50 as the price for it.
No I think on this Corbyn is absolutely right. This has been discussed widely across the opposition. Timing is everything. If the VONC falls, as it likely tomorrow, it will fortify Boris for the summer. It will be much better to leave the fool (Boris that is, not Corbyn) to start making plenty of errors and enemies through the rest of the summer and then hit him hard in early September when minds will be very focused on the looming exit date.
Corbyn has got this one right.
"Now is not the time"
A common theme for May, her enemies, Corbyn, his enemies, and Boris and his opposition and enemies too I expect.
Yeah, yeah: manana, manana, jam tomorrow, excuses, excuses.
All bullshit, I’m sorry to say.
He’s not doing it because he wants a No Deal Brexit, wants that to happen under the Tories, doesn’t want all the bother of having to negotiate with the EU and wants to come to power in the chaos unleashed by such an exit with all the blame falling on the Tories.
And thanks to the ERG loons and their little helpers, he may well get his wish.
If no deal happens then every single one of the over 400 MPs who rejected the deal is responsible
Almost. Those who voted against triggering A50, whether we agree with that choice or not, at least did not agree implicitly to no deal. Most MPs did, then moaned about no deal but refused to stop it unless it was in the one way they wanted - which means they don't actually care about stopping no deal, just winning, which is not the same thing.
That's fair. Though even those MPs knew Article 50 had been triggered and that no deal was the legal default alternative.
But yes for those MPs who voted to invoke Article 50, rejected the deal and reject no deal there is no excuse.
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The other is LibDem + moderate Labour. This has real plausibility to me esp if Corbyn loses again.
But if the LibDems continue their trajectory and Boris bombs all this will be moot. The greatest seismic change in British politics will not be Faragists, but the LibDems winning more than 325 seats outright.
It's absolutely worth a £fiver.
The Queen - Is that him on a high wire about to land by the palace rails ?
Mrs May - It is .... oh dear. He'll need surgery for that serious anal injury.
The Queen - The Palace saves the day. I think we'll send for Jeremy.
Mrs May - Corbyn ?!?!?
The Queen - You do have a sense of humour after all ..... Jeremy Hunt it is.
In half an hour or so Boris will be handed the nuclear codes.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/23/cory-booker-2020-1428356
Very difficult to call, I'd say.
So in many ways, the LibDems are unlikely now to slip back.
It's all down to Boris. If, as most of us on here think, Boris bombs then the beneficiaries of that will be the LibDems and BXP. If Boris pulls off the unexpected then the BXP will tank but I don't think the LibDems would.
So, regardless of the fact that I'm a LibDem member there are very sound reasons for backing the LibDems to do well.
That share of the vote in 1983 and 2010 was when they were up against Cons and Labour polling 42% and 27% (1983) and 36% and 29% (2010).
They are currently up against 25% and 19% in the latest poll. It makes all the difference.
Baxter it and you will see
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
Rupa Huq, the Lab MP has recently been involved in an anti-semitism ( https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7118151/Labour-MP-Rupa-Huq-accused-anti-Semitism-former-employee.html ).
The numbers are big but after a 2017 10k vote switch between the main parties I would have thought that the seat automatically becomes a LibDem target.
FPTP is a fickle beast!
Anecdotally, from Labour’s heartlands, people dislike Corbyn’s Labour but express unease with the idea of voting LD.
My six year old daughter pointed at the telly and said 'look Daddy, it's Boris Johnson'.
^ This
Where is their Alistair Campbell / Peter Mandelson?
If Labour had a half-decent leader they would probably rocket.
If that passes, Swinson has a choice to make - find and win a new seat or depart the scene.
You can't be party leader when your seat is about to disappear due to Scotland ceasing to be part of the union.
(although technically May doesn't resign until she hands in her seal of office at the end of the meeting with the Queen)
Start there.
If no deal happens then every single one of the over 400 MPs who rejected the deal is responsible. If they also opposed no deal then they were loons for rejecting the only deal.
https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1154022246475862019
The interesting point here is we are dealing with genuine unknowns in terms of future events/consequences. It is not inconceivable that we could, at the next election, see a massive Tory majority, a massive Labour majority, a clear Lib Dem majority, a narrow BXP majority or simply a massive mess with no one anywhere near a majority.
All depends on such a complex interweaving of possible outcomes it would make Stephen Strange's 14,000,605 possible futures seem predictable.
Absolutely nothing to see here....
Which is unfortunate because the good cause in question gets plenty of attention now without such ego boosting stuff, which just makes plenty of others who agree with the broad principle embarrassed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom
Interestingly, the ‘green deal’ is the one radical Democratic policy which polls show as supported by a significant majority of the electorate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.125575094
https://twitter.com/GreenpeaceUK/status/1154031511529594881?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1154031511529594881&ref_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49073992
Mainly female protestors linking arms, in thin clothes, holding up all the pomp and motorcade aplomb that a state can bear down for its main occasions.
But yes for those MPs who voted to invoke Article 50, rejected the deal and reject no deal there is no excuse.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/361905/Boris-Johnson-has-new-role-in-Ben-and-Holly-s-Little-Kingdom
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49088773/boris-johnson-the-boy-who-wanted-to-be-world-king