I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Not an accusation against you but it is undeniable that the reverse also applies and widely - that antisemitism in Labour is being exploited to the hilt by political opponents many of whom are not as a general rule the most passionate of warriors against racism.
(Snip)
Yep, I agree with that. Some of the attacks against anti-Semitism within Labour are somewhat blunted by comments made by the same accusers against - say - Muslims.
(Cue someone saying: "Islam isn't a race!")
How about me?
"Are Somalis and Indonesians the same race?"
The subject has responded to the stimulus as expected.
The point is the moment you say "Islam isn't a race!" in response to someone complaining about someone saying something twattish or evil against Muslims, you're siding with the twats.
What about saying something twattish about Catholics? Or Jehovas? Or the Westborough Baptist Church? How about Scientology?
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
So Andrea Leadsom now has less than 22 hours to ensure at least 8 X MPs back her (including herself) and is still three short but is *still* layable at 9/1 on Betfair right now.
Utter madness. I've literally run out of money to put down against it.
She doesn't stand a hope of being elected leader. Free money.
The standard for conviction is beyond reasonable doubt. The standard for bringing it to the attention of [whoever] for criminal trial is a prima facie level of evidence that the person has committed a crime. As to your contention that no jury would convict, I'm happy to test that by letting it go to trial and see what they would say. Maybe they'll surprise you, as Clive Ponting so demonstrated.
You can sneak to whomever you like for whatever you like, the only bound being that your evidence is not so weak that you are wasting police time by advancing it. The DPP must satisfy himorherself that there is a reasonable chance of getting a conviction *and* that it is in the public interest to prosecute. On the first, there probably isn't, and on the second I'd expect the DPP to be wary of being used as a tool in a political battle. Not saying it won't happen (see under Huhne) but it's odds agin (see under Johnson, B.)
To your second point (DPP wary of being used as a tool in a political battle) I would hope s/he would find the courage appropriate to the post, and there is an obvious recent (US) precedent with the investigation of Clinton's emails. To your first point (reasonable chance of getting a conviction), I think it would get past a jury.
The conviction rate in Crown Court trials, excluding guilty plea cases, is *under 33%.* I the other over 66% a paid professional must have thought there was a reasonable chance of conviction, and got it wrong. Your and my amateur assessments are therefore of negligible value.
The Clinton email case is just so far away from Gove doing a couple of lines that I don't know where to start with it.
I think Kingsley Napley are wrong.
In general, people plead guilty because their counsel advise them they would be likely to be found guilty at trial. A plea of guilty will result in a lower sentence than going to trial and being found guilty.
The cases that go to trial are those where the Defence case is strongest.
My "efnik" homeland of Kerala in southern India has a population that is very roughly 55% Hindu, 27% Muslim, and 18% Christian. We all speak the local language, Malayalam. But are we really three separate races as Josias seems to suggest?
On an even more personal note, my uncle who lives in Mumbai converted from Hinduism to Christianity and married a fellow Christian from Kerala. And I self-identify as an Atheist.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Somewhat plausible. Although after a campaign, I would expect it to revert a lit to L:ab/Con
That is the lowest Brexit vote share for a few weeks. Most of the survey was conducted before Peterborough result was known.I stongly suspect that a GE would see both main parties well above 30%. - ie their total combined vote share would be similar to 2015.
Of course, the lower the Brexit Party goes in the polls, the more problematical the Tory strategy of embracing No Deal becomes. Suppose they can squeeze even a third of those Brexit Party votes in their direction. That's 6%. Can they be sure that adopting No Deal won't squeeze at least 6% of their existing supporters towards Labour and the Lib Dems?
Pretty much, according to Deltapoll 53% of Tory voters would back No Deal over 34% for Remain (more than the 51% who would back May's current Deal over Remain) and 80% of Brexit Party voters would back No Deal over just 3% for Remain (and lots of 2017 Tories are currently voting Brexit Party)
I make that a 13% swing from Conservative to Liberal Democrat which will make a lot of difference in some places. On that straight swing, Taunton Deane (current Con majority 15,887) would fall but as we know it doesn't work like that. You'd likely see more Labour tactical voting and a CON unwind to BXP so I think on those polling numbers the LDs would be up to 50-60 seats.
I note the CON-LAB share is back up to 53% which once again rewards them with the majority of the seats - we really need to see the duopoly nearer 40% to make things interesting but I would caution against treating Baxter as gospel.
I'd also caution about choosing leaders on the basis of which polls better and policies on the basis of which one polls best with the public.
If parties had solely chosen leaders based on who polls best with the public since the year 2000, then the Tories would have chosen Ken Clarke rather than IDS in 2001 and Michael Howard in 2003, David Cameron over David Davis in 2005 and Theresa May over Andrea Leadsom in 2016.
Labour would have chosen David Miliband over Ed Miliband in 2010 and Andy Burnham over Jeremy Corbyn in 2015.
Given hypothetical voting intentions were therefore largely correct based on those general elections in all cases bar maybe 2015 and 2016 (and even then May scraped home v Corbyn) it would also be a mistake to ignore them and Boris' high current poll rating with the public versus the other Tory leadership contenders
My "efnik" homeland of Kerala in southern India has a population that is very roughly 55% Hindu, 27% Muslim, and 18% Christian. We all speak the local language, Malayalam. But are we really three separate races as Josias seems to suggest?
On an even more personal note, my uncle who lives in Mumbai converted from Hinduism to Christianity and married a fellow Christian from Kerala. And I self-identify as an Atheist.
Is he a different race from me?
You are making unnecessarily heavy weather of the obvious fact that you can have higher or less high correlations between two characteristics. If someone speaks Icelandic, does it follow that they are Icelandic? No. Is there a high probability that they are Icelandic? Yes. If someone speaks English, the answers are No and No.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Given your job they were probably too scared to offer you drugs.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
One rule of beef: always choose the rib-eye.
Always.
Indeed. I broke the rule tonight, I've learned my lesson. At least the wine is good.
Just watching Marr interviewing McVey. I really hope she wins. Labour landslide.
The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now
Don't leave me McVey I can't survive, I can't stay alive Without your love, no baby Don't leave me McVey I can't exist, I will surely miss your tender kiss So don't leave me McVey
The standard for conviction is beyond reasonable doubt. The standard for bringing it to the attention of [whoever] for criminal trial is a prima facie level of evidence that the person has committed a crime. As to your contention that no jury would convict, I'm happy to test that by letting it go to trial and see what they would say. Maybe they'll surprise you, as Clive Ponting so demonstrated.
You can sneak to whomever you like for whatever you like, the only bound being that your evidence is not so weak that you are wasting police time by advancing it. The DPP must satisfy himorherself that there is a reasonable chance of getting a conviction *and* that it is in the public interest to prosecute. On the first, there probably isn't, and on the second I'd expect the DPP to be wary of being used as a tool in a political battle. Not saying it won't happen (see under Huhne) but it's odds agin (see under Johnson, B.)
To your second point (DPP wary of being used as a tool in a political battle) I would hope s/he would find the courage appropriate to the post, and there is an obvious recent (US) precedent with the investigation of Clinton's emails. To your first point (reasonable chance of getting a conviction), I think it would get past a jury.
The conviction rate in Crown Court trials, excluding guilty plea cases, is *under 33%.* I the other over 66% a paid professional must have thought there was a reasonable chance of conviction, and got it wrong. Your and my amateur assessments are therefore of negligible value.
The Clinton email case is just so far away from Gove doing a couple of lines that I don't know where to start with it.
I think Kingsley Napley are wrong.
In general, people plead guilty because their counsel advise them they would be likely to be found guilty at trial. A plea of guilty will result in a lower sentence than going to trial and being found guilty.
The cases that go to trial are those where the Defence case is strongest.
Obviously. But that doesn't alter the point, which is that "likelihood of conviction" assessments are very difficult and of negligible value unless they come from lawyers (which I am) specialising in criminal trials (which I'm not).
I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Not an accusation against you but it is undeniable that the reverse also applies and widely - that antisemitism in Labour is being exploited to the hilt by political opponents many of whom are not as a general rule the most passionate of warriors against racism.
(Snip)
Yep, I agree with that. Some of the attacks against anti-Semitism within Labour are somewhat blunted by comments made by the same accusers against - say - Muslims.
(Cue someone saying: "Islam isn't a race!")
I will make your day , you are talking bollox , Islam is not a race it is a religion.
Where do you stand on Judaism on the same point?
I am a Catholic - what race am I?
Islam like Catholicism is the religion of over a billion people across the world of many races. Judaism is a much smaller faith whose adherents supposedly descend from Abraham and which doesn’t generally seek converts. Judaism is a race - other faiths perhaps not.
Technically Muslims claim descent from Abraham as well.
Just watching Marr interviewing McVey. I really hope she wins. Labour landslide.
The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now
Don't leave me McVey I can't survive, I can't stay alive Without your love, no baby Don't leave me McVey I can't exist, I will surely miss your tender kiss So don't leave me McVey
Gyimah all your Govin' All your hugs and kisses too Gyimah all your Govin' Don't let up until we're through
Just watching Marr interviewing McVey. I really hope she wins. Labour landslide.
The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now The only McVey is up Baby For you and me now
Don't leave me McVey I can't survive, I can't stay alive Without your love, no baby Don't leave me McVey I can't exist, I will surely miss your tender kiss So don't leave me McVey
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
One rule of beef: always choose the rib-eye.
Always.
Indeed. I broke the rule tonight, I've learned my lesson. At least the wine is good.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
A brother of a friend of mine spent half a million pounds on cocaine and gambling over a few years, it destroyed his family.
I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Not an accusation against you but it is undeniable that the reverse also applies and widely - that antisemitism in Labour is being exploited to the hilt by political opponents many of whom are not as a general rule the most passionate of warriors against racism.
(Snip)
Yep, I agree with that. Some of the attacks against anti-Semitism within Labour are somewhat blunted by comments made by the same accusers against - say - Muslims.
(Cue someone saying: "Islam isn't a race!")
How about me?
"Are Somalis and Indonesians the same race?"
The subject has responded to the stimulus as expected.
The point is the moment you say "Islam isn't a race!" in response to someone complaining about someone saying something twattish or evil against Muslims, you're siding with the twats.
Islam is a religion, like Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism.
I suspect the honourable gentleman is missing the point, and refer him to my previous response.
In addition: Judaism is also a religion: and I'm far from certain that (as TUD points out below), that Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) are of the same race as most other Jews - despite AIUI being officially recognised as being Jewish.
I also said above:
The Falasha community of Ethiopia, were airlifted to Israel (in the 80s I think). Then you have traditions stating that there was another Jewish temple built in Elephantine, along the Nile, after the first was destroyed, and the claims that the Ethiopian city of Axum is currently home to the Ark. Despite being majority Christian, Ethiopians still involve "Ark replicas" (Tabots) in their Timkat festival.
It is frustrating trying to verify the Ark thing. Graham Hancock (?no relation?) wrote a book about it which says that everyone in Axum believes it. If you go to Axum and ask people if they think the Ark is in Axum they all say yes. Trouble is, if you ask them why they hold this belief they invariably say "Because we read it in Mr Hancock's book."
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Somewhat plausible. Although after a campaign, I would expect it to revert a lit to L:ab/Con
That is the lowest Brexit vote share for a few weeks. Most of the survey was conducted before Peterborough result was known.I stongly suspect that a GE would see both main parties well above 30%. - ie their total combined vote share would be similar to 2015.
Of course, the lower the Brexit Party goes in the polls, the more problematical the Tory strategy of embracing No Deal becomes. Suppose they can squeeze even a third of those Brexit Party votes in their direction. That's 6%. Can they be sure that adopting No Deal won't squeeze at least 6% of their existing supporters towards Labour and the Lib Dems?
Pretty much, according to Deltapoll 53% of Tory voters would back No Deal over 34% for Remain (more than the 51% who would back May's current Deal over Remain) and 80% of Brexit Party voters would back No Deal over just 3% for Remain (and lots of 2017 Tories are currently voting Brexit Party)
Different pollsters come up with different results. But, this, and the Peterborough result are consistent with TBP support being just over 20% overall.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
A brother of a friend of mine spent half a million pounds on cocaine and gambling over a few years
I know a man who is currently in prison after blowing £14m of his clients' money on his gambling addiction. A couple of days before his arrest, he blew £200,000.
Somewhat plausible. Although after a campaign, I would expect it to revert a lit to L:ab/Con
That is the lowest Brexit vote share for a few weeks. Most of the survey was conducted before Peterborough result was known.I stongly suspect that a GE would see both main parties well above 30%. - ie their total combined vote share would be similar to 2015.
Of course, the lower the Brexit Party goes in the polls, the more problematical the Tory strategy of embracing No Deal becomes. Suppose they can squeeze even a third of those Brexit Party votes in their direction. That's 6%. Can they be sure that adopting No Deal won't squeeze at least 6% of their existing supporters towards Labour and the Lib Dems?
Pretty much, according to Deltapoll 53% of Tory voters would back No Deal over 34% for Remain (more than the 51% who would back May's current Deal over Remain) and 80% of Brexit Party voters would back No Deal over just 3% for Remain (and lots of 2017 Tories are currently voting Brexit Party)
Different pollsters come up with different results. But, this, and the Peterborough result are consistent with TBP support being just over 20% overall.
It should also be noted that 18% of current Labour voters, 19% of current Green voters and even 5% of current LD voters would prefer No Deal to Remain on the same poll
I'm *amazed* that you are so utterly blind to anti-Semitism amongst your political friends, yet are so acutely sensitive to perceived racism by your enemies.
It's almost as though you don't actually care about racism, except as a political weapon.
Not an accusation against you but it is undeniable that the reverse also applies and widely - that antisemitism in Labour is being exploited to the hilt by political opponents many of whom are not as a general rule the most passionate of warriors against racism.
(Snip)
Yep, I agree with that. Some of the attacks against anti-Semitism within Labour are somewhat blunted by comments made by the same accusers against - say - Muslims.
(Cue someone saying: "Islam isn't a race!")
How about me?
"Are Somalis and Indonesians the same race?"
The subject has responded to the stimulus as expected.
The point is the moment you say "Islam isn't a race!" in response to someone complaining about someone saying something twattish or evil against Muslims, you're siding with the twats.
Islam is a religion, like Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism.
I suspect the honourable gentleman is missing the point, and refer him to my previous response.
In addition: Judaism is also a religion: and I'm far from certain that (as TUD points out below), that Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) are of the same race as most other Jews - despite AIUI being officially recognised as being Jewish.
I also said above:
The Falasha community of Ethiopia, were airlifted to Israel (in the 80s I think). Then you have traditions stating that there was another Jewish temple built in Elephantine, along the Nile, after the first was destroyed, and the claims that the Ethiopian city of Axum is currently home to the Ark. Despite being majority Christian, Ethiopians still involve "Ark replicas" (Tabots) in their Timkat festival.
It is frustrating trying to verify the Ark thing. Graham Hancock (?no relation?) wrote a book about it which says that everyone in Axum believes it. If you go to Axum and ask people if they think the Ark is in Axum they all say yes. Trouble is, if you ask them why they hold this belief they invariably say "Because we read it in Mr Hancock's book."
"The Sign and the Seal", yes. I am not Graham Hancock, by the way
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Given your job they were probably too scared to offer you drugs.
I’m sure. I was more likely to have garlic waved at me.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
A brother of a friend of mine spent half a million pounds on cocaine and gambling over a few years
I know a man who is currently in prison after blowing £14m of his clients' money on his gambling addiction. A couple of days before his arrest, he blew £200,000.
Yes, my friends brother was gambling while coked up and using money embezzled or conned out of family. He had lost all contact with real values.
I have never touched the stuff. Recreational drugs are very frowned upon in my line of work, apart from alcohol and not even much of that nowadays.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
One rule of beef: always choose the rib-eye.
Always.
Indeed. I broke the rule tonight, I've learned my lesson. At least the wine is good.
I prefer Rump Steak, generally.
Were ribeye steaks available in this country before approximately 2000 ?
I'm sure it was only fillet, rump, sirloin and T-bone in the 1980s and 1990s.
My "efnik" homeland of Kerala in southern India has a population that is very roughly 55% Hindu, 27% Muslim, and 18% Christian. We all speak the local language, Malayalam. But are we really three separate races as Josias seems to suggest?
On an even more personal note, my uncle who lives in Mumbai converted from Hinduism to Christianity and married a fellow Christian from Kerala. And I self-identify as an Atheist.
Is he a different race from me?
You are making unnecessarily heavy weather of the obvious fact that you can have higher or less high correlations between two characteristics. If someone speaks Icelandic, does it follow that they are Icelandic? No. Is there a high probability that they are Icelandic? Yes. If someone speaks English, the answers are No and No.
You seem to be suggesting my uncle is a different race from me!
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
Steak night for the first time in a while. Made the mistake of getting filet mignon. Went rare and it's from a very reputable establishment so it should be pretty much the best available. I've realised it's the blandest and mushiest cut of beef. I'm back on the rib-eye train.
One rule of beef: always choose the rib-eye.
Always.
Indeed. I broke the rule tonight, I've learned my lesson. At least the wine is good.
I prefer Rump Steak, generally.
Were ribeye steaks available in this country before approximately 2000 ?
I'm sure it was only fillet, rump, sirloin and T-bone in the 1980s and 1990s.
It was often called by its French name, Entrecote.
A much better cut. Flavour compounds are aromatic compounds in the chemical sense of aromatic. Therefore they are fat soluble. Lean cuts are relatively flavourless.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Red wine is better.
I don’t drink much either. Last time I had wine was 13th May. I may treat myself after I do my talks on Tuesday.
On the other hand if you were to see my plant nursery bills ......
I recently managed to get some rare aloe polyphilla - an extraordinary plant naturally found in Lesotho, which survives outside even in very cold winters. It has a spectacular spiral pattern and I’m planning to have them in the rockery in the Lakes so that I can see them out of the bedroom window.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
It would be a brave stupid person indeed to offer the head of compliance a line of coke!
My "efnik" homeland of Kerala in southern India has a population that is very roughly 55% Hindu, 27% Muslim, and 18% Christian. We all speak the local language, Malayalam. But are we really three separate races as Josias seems to suggest?
On an even more personal note, my uncle who lives in Mumbai converted from Hinduism to Christianity and married a fellow Christian from Kerala. And I self-identify as an Atheist.
Is he a different race from me?
You are making unnecessarily heavy weather of the obvious fact that you can have higher or less high correlations between two characteristics. If someone speaks Icelandic, does it follow that they are Icelandic? No. Is there a high probability that they are Icelandic? Yes. If someone speaks English, the answers are No and No.
You seem to be suggesting my uncle is a different race from me!
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Given your job they were probably too scared to offer you drugs.
I’m sure. I was more likely to have garlic waved at me.
Fuck it, even though I cannot explain Leadsom's price I've decided it is because absolute fucking idiots are betting on her. I have entered the great "Laying Leadsom" game. This is what I should have done with Jeb Bush but got scared off.
With Rudd and potentially Mordaunt and Hammond to back Hunt tomorrow surely it makes it now almost impossible to avoid a Johnson Vs Hunt final two....there's only ever going to be one winner there unless Boris really screws up.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
It would be a brave stupid person indeed to offer the head of compliance a line of coke!
Even stupider to do so to the Head of Investigations!
Mind you, never ever underestimate the stupidity of far too many in the City.
The weather forecast tomorrow in London is 12C. Which is about right for mid June, as a minimum.
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
Australia by any chance?
I'm thinking the Alentejo. Or Andalucia. And I am thinking quite seriously.
Andalucia is great. It's been a while since I visited but they had the right idea about tapa, a delicious free accompaniment to sipping ice cold Alhambra Reserva on a terrace.
Interestingly, or not, some weather geeks think tomorrow could be a modest record.
In terms of max, it will likely be the coldest June day in London since the Coronation, and possibly since 1903.
Ha! Where's yer global warming now?
There is a theory - a subset of the overall global warming theory - which says climate change will mean cold melting Arctic ice flooding south, interrupting the Gulf Stream, even destroying it, which will give Britain (and the rest of north and west Europe) the climate it SHOULD have, in respect of its latitude: and that is the climate of Labrador, Canada.
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
Given your job they were probably too scared to offer you drugs.
I’m sure. I was more likely to have garlic waved at me.
Interestingly, or not, some weather geeks think tomorrow could be a modest record.
In terms of max, it will likely be the coldest June day in London since the Coronation, and possibly since 1903.
Ha! Where's yer global warming now?
There is a theory - a subset of the overall global warming theory - which says climate change will mean cold melting Arctic ice flooding south, interrupting the Gulf Stream, even destroying it, which will give Britain (and the rest of north and west Europe) the climate it SHOULD have, in respect of its latitude: and that is the climate of Labrador, Canada.
Fantastic.
The Scots will come south.
They only ever got as far as Derby. You're safe enough in Richmond.
The weather forecast tomorrow in London is 12C. Which is about right for mid June, as a minimum.
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
Australia by any chance?
I'm thinking the Alentejo. Or Andalucia. And I am thinking quite seriously.
Andalucia is great. It's been a while since I visited but they had the right idea about tapa, a delicious free accompaniment to sipping ice cold Alhambra Reserva on a terrace.
Have you head the tale of the origins of tapas? They were literally "tops" - little slices of bread you put over the top of your beer or wine bottle, to keep out the flies.
Then people started eating them. Then people started putting fun stuff on them. And so tapas were born. No idea if it is true. I quite like the story.
Jerry Hunt's is a magical world Full of strippers and long-legged girls
In touch with the ground I'm on the Hunt down after you Smell like I sound I'm lost in a crowd And I'm hungry like the wolf Straddle the line in discord and rhyme I'm on the Hunt down after you Mouth is alive with juices like wine And I'm hungry like the wolf
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
The weather forecast tomorrow in London is 12C. Which is about right for mid June, as a minimum.
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
Australia by any chance?
I'm thinking the Alentejo. Or Andalucia. And I am thinking quite seriously.
Andalucia is great. It's been a while since I visited but they had the right idea about tapa, a delicious free accompaniment to sipping ice cold Alhambra Reserva on a terrace.
Have you head the tale of the origins of tapas? They were literally "tops" - little slices of bread you put over the top of your beer or wine bottle, to keep out the flies.
Then people started eating them. Then people started putting fun stuff on them. And so tapas were born. No idea if it is true. I quite like the story.
I think I'd heard that one. There's quite a list on Wiki, being a cynical **** I'm attracted to 'tavern owners from Castile-La Mancha found out that the strong taste and smell of mature cheese could help disguise that of bad wine, thus "covering" it, and started offering free cheese when serving cheap wine'.
The weather forecast tomorrow in London is 12C. Which is about right for mid June, as a minimum.
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
Come to the sandpit. We’re expecting 45°C and 70% humidity in Dubai tomorrow. Lovely*!
*if you’re a camel. If you’re a human, it’s close to unbearable.
Yeah, I am aware there are hot climates which are just TOO hot.
The worst I have encountered was desertified northern Ethiopia, where it didn't dip below 30C..... AT NIGHT.
And the people "lived" in stifling mud huts, with no fans, no breeze, no nothing, certainly no air con. It was just hideous. I do not understand how anyone could endure it. Or why they endured it.
The weather forecast tomorrow in London is 12C. Which is about right for mid June, as a minimum.
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
We had some pretty hot days in May so cannot complain too much and personally I prefer 12 degrees to anything over 25.
If you want a hot summer guaranteed move to Spain, Greece, Italy, Australia, the south of France or Florida or if you really want to fry, North Africa and the Middle East
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
It's only a debt if you actually owe it.
Lovely: a clean Brexit will start with Britain being taken to court for not paying her debts.
What do you think that will do to Britain’s credit rating, bearing in mind the size of the debt and deficit we have to finance every single day?
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
This would be a contractual dispute, not a sovereign debt default. That would require the government to miss interest repayments on Gilts or not be able to redeem any that come due.
In a no deal scenario we'd be liable for half of the money and the EU would be able to take the government to court over that sum and win. The membership fees are nothing more than a promissory note as part of our membership, should the latter cease the former goes with it, how can they seek to enforce membership fees on a non-member.
I'm not saying it is a road we should go down, but the idea that not paying would be the same a a debt default is absolutely wrong and the same kind of scaremongering rubbish from the EU that means people don't believe anything they say.
Fuck it, even though I cannot explain Leadsom's price I've decided it is because absolute fucking idiots are betting on her. I have entered the great "Laying Leadsom" game. This is what I should have done with Jeb Bush but got scared off.
Doubtless others will have played this better and/or in larger size but here's my book to the nearest tenner.
230 Johnson 450 Hunt -1880 Leadsom 320 Gove 130 Stewart 530 Javid 190 Corbyn (PM Market if the Tory leader somehow doesn't become PM) 425 Raab 1930 odd on Mcvey (Not going to sell that at 380)
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
This would be a contractual dispute, not a sovereign debt default. That would require the government to miss interest repayments on Gilts or not be able to redeem any that come due.
In a no deal scenario we'd be liable for half of the money and the EU would be able to take the government to court over that sum and win. The membership fees are nothing more than a promissory note as part of our membership, should the latter cease the former goes with it, how can they seek to enforce membership fees on a non-member.
I'm not saying it is a road we should go down, but the idea that not paying would be the same a a debt default is absolutely wrong and the same kind of scaremongering rubbish from the EU that means people don't believe anything they say.
You’re failing to see the wood for the trees, I’m afraid.
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
It's bollocks tho. Macron might wish to be the Jupiterian emperor of the world, but, despite that, he does not personally get to decide what constitutes a sovereign debt default.
Macron is increasingly comical and cack-handed. His unwarranted arrogance has just collapsed the merge of Fiat Chrysler and Renault. He was meant to be the French Thatcher. So far he is a disappointing mix of Mitterand distracted by his mistress, and Chirac at the onset of his dementia.
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
It's only a debt if you actually owe it.
Lovely: a clean Brexit will start with Britain being taken to court for not paying her debts.
What do you think that will do to Britain’s credit rating, bearing in mind the size of the debt and deficit we have to finance every single day?
It's not a debt. Both sides recognise it's not a debt. It's continued membership dues in the transition period and the nation's share of pension liabilities wrt British people who have worked for the EU. Neither are considered a debt.
I see that Macron has pointed out to Tory leadership hopefuls what a sovereign debt default is and what it means for a country.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
This would be a contractual dispute, not a sovereign debt default. That would require the government to miss interest repayments on Gilts or not be able to redeem any that come due.
In a no deal scenario we'd be liable for half of the money and the EU would be able to take the government to court over that sum and win. The membership fees are nothing more than a promissory note as part of our membership, should the latter cease the former goes with it, how can they seek to enforce membership fees on a non-member.
I'm not saying it is a road we should go down, but the idea that not paying would be the same a a debt default is absolutely wrong and the same kind of scaremongering rubbish from the EU that means people don't believe anything they say.
You’re failing to see the wood for the trees, I’m afraid.
I'm not, I think you are and you're getting caught up in a bunch of useless rhetoric from both sides. The markets will honestly give no fucks if the UK and EU enter into a contract resolution process over the exit bill. Nobody on their right mind believes that not paying the full £39bn asked is going to have even the slightest effect on the ability or willingness to pay interest on Gilts.
As I've said before a lot, there are going to be lot of unlikely winners and losers from brexit, and that goes for outcomes too.
It's funny how many people actually want to be the next prime minister. They used to call managing the England football team the impossible job. Leading Britain is surely the impossible job now. How is someone going to be able to become Tory leader and not then look like a complete idiot shortly after. You can only become leader by promising proper Brexit right away but we aren't remotely well prepared for that. We all know that there will be no serious renegotiation of the deal but perhaps Boris will gets the right wing press to strike fear into the heart of Brussels.
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Running around banking Raab who's not whacked up on Scooby Snacks?
In general, people plead guilty because their counsel advise them they would be likely to be found guilty at trial. A plea of guilty will result in a lower sentence than going to trial and being found guilty.
The cases that go to trial are those where the Defence case is strongest.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/embarrassed-pollster-ripped-up-poll-that-showed-labor-losing-election-20190604-p51u9v.html
Maybe pollsters have a liberal bias.
On an even more personal note, my uncle who lives in Mumbai converted from Hinduism to Christianity and married a fellow Christian from Kerala. And I self-identify as an Atheist.
Is he a different race from me?
Despite living in London and working in the City I have never taken cocaine or even been offered it. I’ve read enough emails/chats from my “victims” to know how widespread this is. It seems like the most colossal waste of money to me. There are so many nicer natural ways of getting a high and feeling good.
Obviously, now I will never be able to stand for Tory party leader. But we all have our crosses to bear .....
http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/polls/brexit-deal-leaders (p5)
Labour would have chosen David Miliband over Ed Miliband in 2010 and Andy Burnham over Jeremy Corbyn in 2015.
Given hypothetical voting intentions were therefore largely correct based on those general elections in all cases bar maybe 2015 and 2016 (and even then May scraped home v Corbyn) it would also be a mistake to ignore them and Boris' high current poll rating with the public versus the other Tory leadership contenders
I can't survive, I can't stay alive
Without your love, no baby
Don't leave me McVey
I can't exist, I will surely miss your tender kiss
So don't leave me McVey
All your hugs and kisses too
Gyimah all your Govin'
Don't let up until we're through
Red wine is better.
Purely for entertainment value, from 2003:
https://grahamhancock.com/drsunilatlantis/
I have never touched the stuff. Recreational drugs are very frowned upon in my line of work, apart from alcohol and not even much of that nowadays.
I'm sure it was only fillet, rump, sirloin and T-bone in the 1980s and 1990s.
A much better cut. Flavour compounds are aromatic compounds in the chemical sense of aromatic. Therefore they are fat soluble. Lean cuts are relatively flavourless.
On the other hand if you were to see my plant nursery bills ......
I recently managed to get some rare aloe polyphilla - an extraordinary plant naturally found in Lesotho, which survives outside even in very cold winters. It has a spectacular spiral pattern and I’m planning to have them in the rockery in the Lakes so that I can see them out of the bedroom window.
Fascinating article by you, have skim-read it and now starting again at the beginning.
Harper found some weed smell
That's the stuff a Chief Whip knows
Pop goes a rival
"You'll see your problems multiplied
If you continually decide
To faithfully pursue
The policy of truth"
I am not getting through.
Want to think about that for two seconds?
Except, this is the maximum. TWELVE DEGREES.
Help. 12 bloody degrees Celsius AND it is gonna piss down.
I. Want. To. Emigrate.
In terms of max, it will likely be the coldest June day in London since the Coronation, and possibly since 1903.
Hand in Gove
The man talks out of his behind
"These are not like any others' drugs
These ones are different because it's us"
Still one of the all time classic British movies.
Mind you, never ever underestimate the stupidity of far too many in the City.
Fantastic.
The Scots will come south.
Full of strippers and long-legged girls
Then people started eating them. Then people started putting fun stuff on them. And so tapas were born. No idea if it is true. I quite like the story.
If that's what he offers people, he'll be a shoo-in for PM.
Well, at least from 50% of the voters...
I'm on the Hunt down after you
Smell like I sound I'm lost in a crowd
And I'm hungry like the wolf
Straddle the line in discord and rhyme
I'm on the Hunt down after you
Mouth is alive with juices like wine
And I'm hungry like the wolf
*if you’re a camel. If you’re a human, it’s close to unbearable.
Do you think that when Boris and Michael and Jeremy and co have stopped stabbing each other in the front and back they might focus on what matters to the country?
Or is that a pathetically old-fashioned hope?
I suspect they don't but that's the problem with politics nowadays. Nobody seems to be thinking beyond the end of their nose.
It's only a debt if you actually owe it.
There's quite a list on Wiki, being a cynical **** I'm attracted to 'tavern owners from Castile-La Mancha found out that the strong taste and smell of mature cheese could help disguise that of bad wine, thus "covering" it, and started offering free cheese when serving cheap wine'.
Good night.
The worst I have encountered was desertified northern Ethiopia, where it didn't dip below 30C..... AT NIGHT.
And the people "lived" in stifling mud huts, with no fans, no breeze, no nothing, certainly no air con. It was just hideous. I do not understand how anyone could endure it. Or why they endured it.
No need to apologise; that was very good.
If you want a hot summer guaranteed move to Spain, Greece, Italy, Australia, the south of France or Florida or if you really want to fry, North Africa and the Middle East
NEW THREAD
What do you think that will do to Britain’s credit rating, bearing in mind the size of the debt and deficit we have to finance every single day?
In a no deal scenario we'd be liable for half of the money and the EU would be able to take the government to court over that sum and win. The membership fees are nothing more than a promissory note as part of our membership, should the latter cease the former goes with it, how can they seek to enforce membership fees on a non-member.
I'm not saying it is a road we should go down, but the idea that not paying would be the same a a debt default is absolutely wrong and the same kind of scaremongering rubbish from the EU that means people don't believe anything they say.
230 Johnson
450 Hunt
-1880 Leadsom
320 Gove
130 Stewart
530 Javid
190 Corbyn (PM Market if the Tory leader somehow doesn't become PM)
425 Raab
1930 odd on Mcvey (Not going to sell that at 380)
collapsed
Macron is increasingly comical and cack-handed. His unwarranted arrogance has just collapsed the merge of Fiat Chrysler and Renault. He was meant to be the French Thatcher. So far he is a disappointing mix of Mitterand distracted by his mistress, and Chirac at the onset of his dementia.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/emmanuel-macron-gets-lesson-capitalism-090142794.html
As I've said before a lot, there are going to be lot of unlikely winners and losers from brexit, and that goes for outcomes too.