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if Johnson or Raab is in charge of negotiations on future relationship with EU, which are more important some would say than the divorce talks, that relationship will be uber Brexity. So in wooing one important constituency to get her deal over the line, she has alienated…
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Is it getting SLIPPY for Liverpool yet?
It's not complicated at all, the question is whether the WA is the best option we have. Who takes over as Tory leader should not impact that question, and in any case won't be the key point in what happens next since the numbers in parliament have not changed.
So sorry, I can respect people who simply cannot bring themselves to vote for it, but I cannot respect people who claim they might or would but oh noes, the Tories might elect someone they don't like. It's bollocks.
The Lab soft brexiteers have been particularly shameless about this sort of thing, their actions say to me they have no intention of backing the deal at all, never have, but they are keen to make it look like they reluctantly enable something very soft or even a referendum.
A proper journalist, and entertaining.
Does anyone even bother with the anodyne line-parrot Laura K?
- cut the money off
- equalise abortion and gay marriage laws in NI (which we should do in any case)
- close Stormont permanently and have direct NI government from London
They've won minor changes before MV2 and secured May's exit before MV3 and probably ensured the next leader, even if not one of them, will likely be a true leaver this time instead of May.
That's probably as much as they could have won from this.
II really wanted the government to win MV3. I started to feel quite optimistic as Monday progressed that things were moving in the right direction. I think May’s slaughtered MV3 stone dead now with her announcement. ☹️.
Doubtful she will get every swivel eyed ERG vote, some would rather bulldoze parliament than vote for May’s sneaky version of a customs union. Doubtful she will get every Tory peoplevoter to support it. Could she really get all 10 DUP abstaining rather than voting against it? Very very doubtful now she will get the Labour votes she needs to pass MV3. Those Labour votes would effectively be putting whips into the hands of new PMs much harder brexit negotiation team with which to lash the Labour benches in the coming years.
With this most ultimate cave in to the hardliners Mays killed the WA stone dead. ☹️
MV3 to go down by 40-50.
*an actual, concrete, negotiated-with-the-EU Customs Union, not a bit of waffle about how they'll "explore" one in that silly "political declaration
Oh, wait...
"I abstain on Never!!!!"
https://twitter.com/DExEUgov/status/1110942385775755264
It seems totally outrageous to me. Who are DExEU to say what respects the Referendum?
It's not a view I have a great deal of sympathy with.
Nothing has changed...
Edit/ BBC saying after the division result at 9.15
Chortle. Brexit The Movie - screenplay rejected for being too far fetched etc etc.
Guess we're on to seeing what the Letwin cabal can come up with next. At least they are trying to find a way forward, even if it is a path toward remain.
Did JRM formally flip too or has he kept his opitons open?
Now, they probably don't even care if we revoke, but frankly who cares what they want now. They refuse to compromise in any way in order to preserve their principles, fine, that's their prerogative. But given that unbending flexibility every other party would be quite reasonable to simply stop talking to the buggers completely. I bet they wouldn't like that, no doubt they would say it is an outrage, but it helps them preserve their principles if no one even speaks to them.
The internecine Tory warfare is of little interest, and no benefit to the nation.
Thanks
Dominic Raab had the wit to keep his mouth shut, didn’t he? Might he be well-placed as a result to be the Platonic ideal ERG candidate? The rest seem to have shot their bolt now.
What I don't get is why the DUP saying no would be any surprise at all to anyone - have they given any indication at all that they were considering switching to the deal?
So has the last gambit failed as well? While some of her own party have folded faster than a bad gambler with a very bad hand the DUP and a few diehards remain and that looks enough as it stands to stop MV3 even if Bercow allows it.
Essentially, that's it. The only options are for May to seek a long extension (is that politically possible now?) or for the clock to run down to 12/4 and we leave without a WA.
To be honest, Parliament can rise on the 6th and we can spend the next week making any last-minute preparations for the brave new world which will await us on 13/4.