OK, you've lost me there. Which Hardy does that refer to?
(I will admit I know his short stories rather better than his novels, which I find overlong and tedious. In fact I think I've only ever read one right the way through.)
Apparently taking a break to read a French magazine helps. It’s called the Nouvel Obs cure.
I do hope so. I like d'Hondt. A proper PR system when the constituencies are big enough. Much better than that AV rubbish. Or STV - that really is nonsense on stilts, what with all that surplus votes business and taking a week to finish the count.
Will you be voting for Labour ?
I will be voting for the same party as I voted for in the last Euro election.
Will you miss Brexit . Politics has never been more chaotic and interesting , I’m sure we’re becoming addicted to this .
No. I have never been more disgusted at the political process and its representatives. Having wrested control of foreign policy away from the executive they have shown themselves entirely inadequate to wield it.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
The FT have got hold of the EU ambassadors briefing notes on an Article 50 extension .
Clear if the UK wants a long extension it will have to have EU elections . Even if the UK had an extension for a year if it doesn’t send MEPs by July 1st then the UK extension is terminated .
What’s not clear is whether the EU would allow some get out clause to send the current UK MEPs back if an election wasn’t held .
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If you get the votes you get a seat, that's how it works. You don't keep nazis out by not having elections.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
So you think Brexit is a great liberal free-trade project but predict the election of Tommy Robinson if it's denied? What does that tell you about your initial judgement?
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
OK, you've lost me there. Which Hardy does that refer to?
(I will admit I know his short stories rather better than his novels, which I find overlong and tedious. In fact I think I've only ever read one right the way through.)
The Trumpet-Major.
There was a deal of his stuff on the syllabus when I studied English. I loathed his novels; some of the poetry is rather good, though.
OK, thanks. Not heard of that one before.
No reason you should.
I was probably one of the 0.1% of readers (and there weren’t that many of them) who really enjoyed Howard Jacobson’s ‘Peeping Tom’ - which, although not a very good novel, burned brightly with its hatred of Hardy.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Thanks Dr Foxy - it is a bitter blow to happen in a few weeks
Sorry about your news Big G. There seems to be a lot of bad news around at the moment sadly.
Yes, Mrs Foxy is at the sharp end of sorting out social care for her mother this week. The frail old dear is fading away. While Brexit paralyses our Parliament, life goes on.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
OK, you've lost me there. Which Hardy does that refer to?
(I will admit I know his short stories rather better than his novels, which I find overlong and tedious. In fact I think I've only ever read one right the way through.)
The Trumpet-Major.
There was a deal of his stuff on the syllabus when I studied English. I loathed his novels; some of the poetry is rather good, though.
OK, thanks. Not heard of that one before.
No reason you should.
I was probably one of the 0.1% of readers (and there weren’t that many of them) who really enjoyed Howard Jacobson’s ‘Peeping Tom’ - which, although not a very good novel, burned brightly with its hatred of Hardy.
That's another one I'll cheerfully admit to not having heard of!
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Why do you persist in mocking this kind of things? It’s important to these islands with whom we have a long shared history. It may not be as significant as the US oust EU but they need to be done
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
Slightly O/T but I had one ear to Sky and they were talking about the internet presence of politicians. T May 1.5 million internet dodahs they were using Magic Grandad - 5.4 million T Robbinson - 17.6 million. I was surprised to say the least, but Mr Robinson as an elected politician certainly has a potential after i heard those figures. Also on a more disturbing note is that railing against Muslims seems to be very popular.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If you get the votes you get a seat, that's how it works. You don't keep nazis out by not having elections.
Indeed, but if we leave the EU we won’t need the elections.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
Man in crowd: Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the Tsar? Rabbi: The Tsar? Man: Yes, a blessing for the Tsar Rabbi: (thinks furiously) Of course! God bless and keep the Tsar...far away from us.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
One thing is certain - he's twenty grand poorer than he was when he got up this morning:
What’s confusing say the UK extends to June 30 th .
Then in the middle of June revokes Article 50 having not had EU elections .
Which is why they won’t allow the extension past the EU Election Day, unless the Treaty is ratified by both sides and we can no longer revoke A50. The situation you describe would bring absolute chaos to the EU, as the Parliament would be incorrectly constituted.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
It was Angles not Saxons in the Midlands and North.
A Norsex would have been in the Herts-Beds-Bucks area if it had ever existed.
It is just as well for Grayling that Adonis had that spell at transport. Otherwise he would be in a league of his own for mind-bending incompetence rather than just the worst transport secretary of all time.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
So you think Brexit is a great liberal free-trade project but predict the election of Tommy Robinson if it's denied? What does that tell you about your initial judgement?
My judgement is that enough people will be absolutely furious at having Brexit denied by the political classes, that they’ll elect anyone prepared to turn the system upside-down.
Also, the vast majority of people still think UKIP is Farage’s party, they don’t know it’s now Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s party - and the EU election is run on a closed party list basis.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
UKIP may lose votes if Yaxley-Lennon is on the ballot. Also I would guess that he would not be at the top of the ballot, since longserving Kippers would take those spots.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Why do you persist in mocking this kind of things? It’s important to these islands with whom we have a long shared history. It may not be as significant as the US oust EU but they need to be done
Agreed. The new arrangement will be no better than the one they already had through the EU and possibly worse. If No Deal goes ahead, it will definitely be worse because their exports will be displaced by Chinese ones as they lose their preferential trade status.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
One thing is certain - he's twenty grand poorer than he was when he got up this morning:
OK, you've lost me there. Which Hardy does that refer to?
(I will admit I know his short stories rather better than his novels, which I find overlong and tedious. In fact I think I've only ever read one right the way through.)
The Trumpet-Major.
There was a deal of his stuff on the syllabus when I studied English. I loathed his novels; some of the poetry is rather good, though.
OK, thanks. Not heard of that one before.
No reason you should.
I was probably one of the 0.1% of readers (and there weren’t that many of them) who really enjoyed Howard Jacobson’s ‘Peeping Tom’ - which, although not a very good novel, burned brightly with its hatred of Hardy.
That's another one I'll cheerfully admit to not having heard of!
Jacobson is a good writer, but that one was pretty obscure three decades ago.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
It was Angles not Saxons in the Midlands and North.
A Norsex would have been in the Herts-Beds-Bucks area if it had ever existed.
It was a mixture (hence why the client king of Bernicia used 'King of the North Saxons'). But also, the distinctions between tribes may have been quite minor. We don't know as much as is sometimes thought, and a lot of what we 'know' may of course be wrong.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Thanks Dr Foxy - it is a bitter blow to happen in a few weeks
Sorry about your news Big G. There seems to be a lot of bad news around at the moment sadly.
Yes, Mrs Foxy is at the sharp end of sorting out social care for her mother this week. The frail old dear is fading away. While Brexit paralyses our Parliament, life goes on.
Sorry to hear that. We have been there with our family and now, at our age, we just pray we will not be a burden on our dear family at some time in the future
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If you get the votes you get a seat, that's how it works. You don't keep nazis out by not having elections.
Indeed, but if we leave the EU we won’t need the elections.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Why do you persist in mocking this kind of things? It’s important to these islands with whom we have a long shared history. It may not be as significant as the US oust EU but they need to be done
Oh, I am quite fond of Fiji, my GG Grandfather spent some years there in the 19th Century as a missionary, but Dr Fox is being economical with the truth. He hasn't improved any trade deal or saved any money, merely replicated EU deals.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
So you think Brexit is a great liberal free-trade project but predict the election of Tommy Robinson if it's denied? What does that tell you about your initial judgement?
My judgement is that enough people will be absolutely furious at having Brexit denied by the political classes, that they’ll elect anyone prepared to turn the system upside-down.
Also, the vast majority of people still think UKIP is Farage’s party, they don’t know it’s now Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s party - and the EU election is run on a closed party list basis.
The ballot papers show the candidates, so if UKIP try to put him up, his name will be there.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
Is anyone clear about what they actually do want in terms of what the EU might actually deliver, as opposed to what they don't? Or is this an impossible dream. Just wanting to know.....and trying to keep it simple.
That was always going to be the case, that there couldn't be any uncertainty whatsoever in the minds of the EU, about whether or not we would be members in July, in advance of the EU elections in May.
I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
If people are willing to vote for the Neon Nazi, then it says a lot about them that is deplorable.
The worst thing is that they don't even have to vote for him by name, he'll likely be high on the UKIP party list.
Is he actually a member? And if so how will Batterns UKIP do against Farage's Brexit Party of one?
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Thanks Dr Foxy - it is a bitter blow to happen in a few weeks
Sorry about your news Big G. There seems to be a lot of bad news around at the moment sadly.
Yes, Mrs Foxy is at the sharp end of sorting out social care for her mother this week. The frail old dear is fading away. While Brexit paralyses our Parliament, life goes on.
Sorry to hear that. We have been there with our family and now, at our age, we just pray we will not be a burden on our dear family at some time in the future
No, not a burden, merely part repayment for the care and attention she gave to Mrs Foxy and I when younger.
I cannot remember an argument that I have ever had with her or my late Father in Law. Indeed she used to infuriate Mrs Foxy by taking my side in a few issues ;-)
Not impressed by Health Services on the Island btw. I am not surprised with this:
So after negotiating a brexit deal with a firm with no ships, he now has to renegotiate a no-brexit deal with a firm that does have ships. Well, he's trying all the combinations, I'll give him that...
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
And? It also adjoined the kingdom of the East Angles. Why not then 'West Anglia?'
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
And Today his botched privatisation of probation services claimed another casualty when Interserve collapsed, leaving 40 000 on probation to be picked up by others
Point 1) They were well aware of it. Point 2) It is at a much greater in scale now. Point 3) The stench reaches up to the very top of the party. Point 4) The die-hard Corynites (not you, BTW) deny and excuse anti-Semitism. Point 5) Labour has become a fertile breeding ground for anti-Jewish rhetoric and feelings, attracting more such rhetoric and comments.
None of those things are points. Number 3 is particularly hyperbolic while conveying no information whatever.
Okay, you've gone from being wilfully ignorant to blindly stupid now. Or trolling.
I've provided you lots of information in the past - and you choose to just put your head in the sand.
...So, the DUP claim they won't waver on red lines, meaning they need something new. The EU insist they won't waver on offering anything new. May has nothing new to offer without the EU giving her something, and no legal wrangling will help unless Cox suddenly thinks his previous opinion was bollocks, and the DUP deciding to believe him on that?
I do get there's always a lot of tough talk, but quite where there is even room to maneuver I am struggling with.
When the May Deal does pass - thanks to the votes of MPs who said they would never, ever vote for it - how much money would they have cost the country in wasted No Deal preparations?
Not nearly as businesses will have wasted trying to deal with this uncertainty right up to the point of departure. It's really unforgiveable.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
And? It also adjoined the kingdom of the East Angles. Why not then 'West Anglia?'
Mercia, East Anglia and Northumbria were Angle kingdoms, not Sacon ones- indeed I understand there is still a notable genetic difference between Essex and Suffolk. Angles were not North Saxons, though were still Germanic.
Mercia was 'West Anglia' if you like; Northumbria 'North Anglia'. But loyalties to old homelands back then were not necessarily that strong: loyalties were first to an individual lord. And kingdom names could be connected to other things than an ancestral homeland or tribe on the other side of the North Sea.
So after negotiating a brexit deal with a firm with no ships, he now has to renegotiate a no-brexit deal with a firm that does have ships. Well, he's trying all the combinations, I'll give him that...
and people tell us Brexit would have gone so much more successfully if the leavers had been in charge!
...So, the DUP claim they won't waver on red lines, meaning they need something new. The EU insist they won't waver on offering anything new. May has nothing new to offer without the EU giving her something, and no legal wrangling will help unless Cox suddenly thinks his previous opinion was bollocks, and the DUP deciding to believe him on that?
I do get there's always a lot of tough talk, but quite where there is even room to maneuver I am struggling with.
The hardcore Leavers have to decide whether no Brexit is worse than a bad Brexit. They’re dithering.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
I grew up on a large estate.
I believe that Sam Cam grew up on an estate nr Scunthorpe...
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
I grew up on a large estate.
I believe that Sam Cam grew up on an estate nr Scunthorpe...
I have a lot in common with Samantha Cameron.
We both have long standing links to Sheffield and we both love David Cameron.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Thanks Dr Foxy - it is a bitter blow to happen in a few weeks
Sorry about your news Big G. There seems to be a lot of bad news around at the moment sadly.
Yes, Mrs Foxy is at the sharp end of sorting out social care for her mother this week. The frail old dear is fading away. While Brexit paralyses our Parliament, life goes on.
Sorry to hear that. We have been there with our family and now, at our age, we just pray we will not be a burden on our dear family at some time in the future
No, not a burden, merely part repayment for the care and attention she gave to Mrs Foxy and I when younger.
I cannot remember an argument that I have ever had with her or my late Father in Law. Indeed she used to infuriate Mrs Foxy by taking my side in a few issues ;-)
Not impressed by Health Services on the Island btw. I am not surprised with this:
That is much like our relationship with both sets of parents and with our children so busy in their jobs we do not want to cause them problems , but we have no way of knowing our future possible care plans, so we just all concentrate on being family
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
It was Angles not Saxons in the Midlands and North.
A Norsex would have been in the Herts-Beds-Bucks area if it had ever existed.
Isn’t Norsex what Ulsterman practice before marriage?
...So, the DUP claim they won't waver on red lines, meaning they need something new. The EU insist they won't waver on offering anything new. May has nothing new to offer without the EU giving her something, and no legal wrangling will help unless Cox suddenly thinks his previous opinion was bollocks, and the DUP deciding to believe him on that?
I do get there's always a lot of tough talk, but quite where there is even room to maneuver I am struggling with.
The hardcore Leavers have to decide whether no Brexit is worse than a bad Brexit. They’re dithering.
A few are. But it's whether the DUP care either way that matters.
Though actually it merely appears to be a continuation of existing arrangements via the EU.
Sorry to hear the bad news Big G. Cancer at a young age is often an aggressive form.
Why do you persist in mocking this kind of things? It’s important to these islands with whom we have a long shared history. It may not be as significant as the US oust EU but they need to be done
Oh, I am quite fond of Fiji, my GG Grandfather spent some years there in the 19th Century as a missionary, but Dr Fox is being economical with the truth. He hasn't improved any trade deal or saved any money, merely replicated EU deals.
In that tweet he’s entirely factual. Nothing economical
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
I grew up on a large estate.
I believe that Sam Cam grew up on an estate nr Scunthorpe...
I have a lot in common with Samantha Cameron.
We both have long standing links to Sheffield and we both love David Cameron.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
...So, the DUP claim they won't waver on red lines, meaning they need something new. The EU insist they won't waver on offering anything new. May has nothing new to offer without the EU giving her something, and no legal wrangling will help unless Cox suddenly thinks his previous opinion was bollocks, and the DUP deciding to believe him on that?
I do get there's always a lot of tough talk, but quite where there is even room to maneuver I am struggling with.
That was before todays meetings and Dodds upbeat assessment.
We will know by tuesday so not much more can kicking
Anyway, talking of kicking, far more important than brexit is tomorrow when Wales claim the Grand Slam
Not good for either of you, Big G or Foxy. Wish you both well.And, Big G, losing someone from a generation below you is hard. Very hard. Been there, done that.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
And? It also adjoined the kingdom of the East Angles. Why not then 'West Anglia?'
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
And? It also adjoined the kingdom of the East Angles. Why not then 'West Anglia?'
West Anglia as a term exists - the railway line from London Liverpool Street to Cambridge via Harlow, for example.
* A majority is achieved in referenda in Wessex. Essex, Sussex and Middlesex * They tell me - and I mean this quite sincerely - what the arse they have done with Norex? There has to have been one, surely.
It wasn't called Norsex, but Northumbria, referring to a geographical feature (the Humber) rather than the people.
Interesting, thank you.
There was a ruler called 'King of the North Saxons' during the time of the Nordic Kingdom of York in the ninth century. But I don't think it was considered a country and certainly the name hasn't survived even though the area involved must have covered most of what is now Northumberland (a corruption of 'Northumbria'.)
I have learned two things tonight * The reason for the disappearance of Norsex * Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Wouldn't Mercia have been the most likely candidate for "Norsex", given that it would have adjoined Wessex and Middlesex?
But it was south of the North. If that makes sense.
But it must have adjoined the other "Sexes" - if you know what I mean. Northumbria is hundreds of miles away.
And? It also adjoined the kingdom of the East Angles. Why not then 'West Anglia?'
That sounds like aprivatised water company!
It was, at one time at least, a Co-op based on Peterborough.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
Fucking hell, Chris Grayling couldn't organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
I bow to nobody in my disdain for Chris Grayling, but I think it's worth pointing out that this comment is both misogynistic and betrays a consecending attitude towards people living in social housing. Besides, I suspect Grayling would struggle to organise a pregnancy in any residential environment, as he is too busy up fucking over the whole country to focus on anyone specifically.
I grew up on a large estate.
I believe that Sam Cam grew up on an estate nr Scunthorpe...
I have a lot in common with Samantha Cameron.
We both have long standing links to Sheffield and we both love David Cameron.
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I hope those in favour of an extension are looking forward to "Tommy Robinson" MEP taking his seat in the European Parliament?
Clear if the UK wants a long extension it will have to have EU elections . Even if the UK had an extension for a year if it doesn’t send MEPs by July 1st then the UK extension is terminated .
What’s not clear is whether the EU would allow some get out clause to send the current UK MEPs back if an election wasn’t held .
* The reason for the disappearance of Norsex
* Sainsbury's gin and dry tonic is nice but makes me burp
Then in the middle of June revokes Article 50 having not had EU elections .
I was probably one of the 0.1% of readers (and there weren’t that many of them) who really enjoyed Howard Jacobson’s ‘Peeping Tom’ - which, although not a very good novel, burned brightly with its hatred of Hardy.
T May 1.5 million internet dodahs they were using
Magic Grandad - 5.4 million
T Robbinson - 17.6 million.
I was surprised to say the least, but Mr Robinson as an elected politician certainly has a potential after i heard those figures.
Also on a more disturbing note is that railing against Muslims seems to be very popular.
Rabbi: The Tsar?
Man: Yes, a blessing for the Tsar
Rabbi: (thinks furiously) Of course! God bless and keep the Tsar...far away from us.
- "Fiddler on the Roof".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-47586480
A Norsex would have been in the Herts-Beds-Bucks area if it had ever existed.
Also, the vast majority of people still think UKIP is Farage’s party, they don’t know it’s now Stephen Yaxley-Lennon’s party - and the EU election is run on a closed party list basis.
It does show that on certain issues MPs from different sides can work together.
(I know, I know...
https://news.sky.com/story/tommy-robinson-becomes-adviser-to-ukip-leader-gerard-batten-11560682
I cannot remember an argument that I have ever had with her or my late Father in Law. Indeed she used to infuriate Mrs Foxy by taking my side in a few issues ;-)
Not impressed by Health Services on the Island btw. I am not surprised with this:
http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/Health-Care-News/isle-of-wight-trust-admits-failing-terribly-in-reports-to-coroner-who-was-left-wanting-to-weep-
https://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2019/03/public-sector-likely-suffer-collapse-interserve
Okay, you've gone from being wilfully ignorant to blindly stupid now. Or trolling.
I've provided you lots of information in the past - and you choose to just put your head in the sand.
Their advantage is that no one can outflank them.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affairs/brexit/house/house-magazine/102554/excl-nigel-dodds-warns-theresa-may-we
...So, the DUP claim they won't waver on red lines, meaning they need something new. The EU insist they won't waver on offering anything new. May has nothing new to offer without the EU giving her something, and no legal wrangling will help unless Cox suddenly thinks his previous opinion was bollocks, and the DUP deciding to believe him on that?
I do get there's always a lot of tough talk, but quite where there is even room to maneuver I am struggling with.
Mercia was 'West Anglia' if you like; Northumbria 'North Anglia'. But loyalties to old homelands back then were not necessarily that strong: loyalties were first to an individual lord. And kingdom names could be connected to other things than an ancestral homeland or tribe on the other side of the North Sea.
We both have long standing links to Sheffield and we both love David Cameron.
We will know by tuesday so not much more can kicking
Anyway, talking of kicking, far more important than brexit is tomorrow when Wales claim the Grand Slam
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