Looks like they could soon be eight: from Woodcock: "It was inspiring and humbling to see my friends setting out why they are leaving the Labour Party to start something new. A sad day for them but the beginning of a time of great hope for all those of us who want our country and our politics to change."
There was once a horse in the Grand National called Polish polish. The announcer said 'This is Polish polish not to be confused with Polish Polish nor polish polish nor polish Polish but Polish polish
:-)
Yes and the same problem (in fact a much worse one) would arise if Chuka were to run for IG in Streatham - or indeed in the Grand National.
British politics was in an unsustainable position until today, where the only national party to be fully anti-Brexit is marooned on about 7% in the polls because of association with a previous coalition. Something had to happen in those circumstances, given that around 50-55% of voters are against Brexit.
50%-55% may vote to remain, but only a fraction of those are dedicated Remoaners whose party allegiance depends on its brexit stance. The simple fact is there are a lot of remain voters who are sympathetic to a hard left Labour and a party offering some kind of blairism-cum-yellow bookery is not going to entice them away.
Is that true? I'm not as up on my alignments as I used to be, but if I was asked which group would be least likely to Remain, the hard-left would be one of my first choices.
Yes, a lot of metropolitan Labourism is the middle-class who have benefited from EU membership hankering for their uni days parading around in Che T-shirts, in fact plenty still are at uni in their Che T-shirts. Despite being remainers the LDs don't get their votes because the party isn't revolutionary.
If my maths is right this means that Labour has now lost more than half of its gains at the 2017 GE.
On the main story of the day: I have never voted for a Labour candidate (although I was seriously tempted last time as my MP is Steve Baker, but the rumbles on PB that it was going to be much closer than anybody expected meant I couldn’t risk it) but the prospect of a Labour Party (or replacement) that is actually electable is vital for our democracy. The prospect that Corbyn is electable would be even worse.
How many of 7 had already lost a VONC from their CLPs
CL - Yes CU - Yes AS - Yes GS - Yes AC - ? LB - 2 tabled but withdrawn MG - ?
As one who strives for hard-left, anti-furrinner, illiberal socialist purity in the party, you must consider today's events another milestone passed in your struggle.
However, in the UK the convention is that the group is within the party and it's the party that's important: for example the LOTO is the leader of the Labour party, not the leader of the Labour caucus in the UK Parliament.
So does this separation of party and group affect legal funding and status? For example, will this new group be allowed to access Short Money without an "Independent Party" in existence?
You’d certainly need to be a registered party to claim Short Money after an election, what might happen before that is mostly at the discretion of the Speaker. Labour would certainly argue that 150 independent MPs don’t have the right to call themselves the Official Opposition, for example.
You read posts like this and it’s hard to see how a rational person could post this. I hate to be a “putin is behind everything” but surely this is exactly the kind of unrest that Russia has been accused of in the past of fermenting.
You read posts like this and it’s hard to see how a rational person could post this. I hate to be a “putin is behind everything” but surely this is exactly the kind of unrest that Russia has been accused of in the past of fermenting.
You read posts like this and it’s hard to see how a rational person could post this. I hate to be a “putin is behind everything” but surely this is exactly the kind of unrest that Russia has been accused of in the past of fermenting.
fomenting, even.
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Shame.... shame..... shame.... I was of course talking about a particular fine microbrewery...
Can't comment about how widely recognised she is, but I like Ann Coffey - she gives the impression of competence and clear-headedness. I'm rather glad she's involved. Chuka always gives the impression of pitying everyone who doesn't have the good fortune to be Chuka Umanna. Still, rather him as PM than Corbyn. Rather any of them than Corbyn. Even Mike Gapes.
Hats off! You got the single 'k' right, the single 'm' right and the double 'nn' right too.
And still got it wrong!
But yes, nicely put, 'CU' does appear to rather like himself.
Sigh. Sorry Chuka. Has there ever been a more mispelled politician?
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Yes and the same problem (in fact a much worse one) would arise if Chuka were to run for IG in Streatham - or indeed in the Grand National.
CL - Yes
CU - Yes
AS - Yes
GS - Yes
AC - ?
LB - 2 tabled but withdrawn
MG - ?
On the main story of the day: I have never voted for a Labour candidate (although I was seriously tempted last time as my MP is Steve Baker, but the rumbles on PB that it was going to be much closer than anybody expected meant I couldn’t risk it) but the prospect of a Labour Party (or replacement) that is actually electable is vital for our democracy. The prospect that Corbyn is electable would be even worse.
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