A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Good grief. In effect, the Sheriff was condoning the offence.
People like Xenon will be shocked to learn that Christopher Daniel is white.
I don't think that having good career prospects, or educational prospects, ahead of you, should result in any sentencing discount. If anything, it seems worse for such people to commit serious offences than it is for people who have nothing.
What happened to that female student who stabbed her boyfriend and was convicted but she was still intending to become a doctor?
On the question of when did Fiona Onasanya commit the offence, I think the jury should have been asked to give a verdict on two counts to make their position explicitly clear. If the judge was going to make such a big thing of the distinction between the two points in time, it should not have been left to his discretion.
By your own efforts and personal qualities you have risen to a great height, which I am satisfied you intended to use not so much for personal advancement as for the cause of social justice which first persuaded you to go into politics.
By your own efforts and personal qualities you have risen to a great height, which I am satisfied you intended to use not so much for personal advancement as for the cause of social justice which first persuaded you to go into politics.
I'm surprised he didn't mention her similarity to Jesus.
Upon hearing her sentence, the first thought in my head was "Did race have anything to do with the harshness of the sentence and how does this compare to Huhne?" Glad to see from the sentencing remarks that the judge directly addresses the second point, and provides a very reasoned explanation as to his decision, which implies that race was not a factor, even implicitly.
Nope. What is this cross-party 'softer Brexit which the EU would have agreed to'? Would it, for example, have required any changes to the Withdrawal Agreement - you know, the one which the EU has said a thousand times can't be changed?
Upon hearing her sentence, the first thought in my head was "Did race have anything to do with the harshness of the sentence and how does this compare to Huhne?" Glad to see from the sentencing remarks that the judge directly addresses the second point, and provides a very reasoned explanation as to his decision, which implies that race was not a factor, even implicitly.
How is her virtue in being a role model to black girls nothing to do with race?
Nope. What is this 'softer Brexit which the EU would have agreed to'? Would it, for example, have required any changes to the Withdrawal Agreement - you know, the one which the EU has said a thousand times can't be changed?
It is absolutely correct.
But of course we are talking about June 2016. Not today.
But of course we are talking about June 2016. Not today.
Possibly, but that's not what Lewis Goodall says.
Edit: Even back in June 2016, I don't think there would have been cross-party agreement on anything. As you have pointed out many times, the opposition just want to oppose. They set up their six unrealisable tests specifically to provide an excuse to oppose anything agreed with the EU.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Good grief. In effect, the Sheriff was condoning the offence.
People like Xenon will be shocked to learn that Christopher Daniel is white.
I don't think that having good career prospects, or educational prospects, ahead of you, should result in any sentencing discount. If anything, it seems worse for such people to commit serious offences than it is for people who have nothing.
What happened to that female student who stabbed her boyfriend and was convicted but she was still intending to become a doctor?
Nope. What is this cross-party 'softer Brexit which the EU would have agreed to'? Would it, for example, have required any changes to the Withdrawal Agreement - you know, the one which the EU has said a thousand times can't be changed?
Who knows, Richard. Mrs May made no effort to find out.
Upon hearing her sentence, the first thought in my head was "Did race have anything to do with the harshness of the sentence and how does this compare to Huhne?" Glad to see from the sentencing remarks that the judge directly addresses the second point, and provides a very reasoned explanation as to his decision, which implies that race was not a factor, even implicitly.
I suppose when all is said and done, her likely striking-off, and loss of employment as an MP, are a much more serious punishment than 3 months in jail. I think that there would be more public sympathy for her if she showed any remorse for her behaviour.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Upon hearing her sentence, the first thought in my head was "Did race have anything to do with the harshness of the sentence and how does this compare to Huhne?" Glad to see from the sentencing remarks that the judge directly addresses the second point, and provides a very reasoned explanation as to his decision, which implies that race was not a factor, even implicitly.
I suppose when all is said and done, her likely striking-off, and loss of employment as an MP, are a much more serious punishment than 3 months in jail. I think that there would be more public sympathy for her if she showed any remorse for her behaviour.
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The first season on grand tour was mixed, some brilliant episodes (including the epic first one)...since then it is just absolutely terrible and it really isn’t clear what it is now. Initially the idea was the tent went to a new country every week and they made content from there, now it is in jezzas back garden and the episodes are just random collections of contrived mini films. There is no format, none of the type of popular classic segments.
But of course we are talking about June 2016. Not today.
Possibly, but that's not what Lewis Goodall says.
Edit: Even back in June 2016, I don't think there would have been cross-party agreement on anything. As you have pointed out many times, the opposition just want to oppose. They set up their six unrealisable tests specifically to provide an excuse to oppose anything agreed with the EU.
True. But it would have made it slightly (slightly) more difficult for Lab MPs to oppose whatever deal was eventually reached if they had been invited in (and declined) back at the beginning of the process.
And as for six impossible tests, well the whole thing is impossible so what difference would a few more contradictory and unachievable requests make?
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Sorry to object again, but that's nonsense. It has nothing to do with 'good faith'. It's no different from any other draft international agreement which doesn't get ratified by a country's legislature. Happens all the time.
Upon hearing her sentence, the first thought in my head was "Did race have anything to do with the harshness of the sentence and how does this compare to Huhne?" Glad to see from the sentencing remarks that the judge directly addresses the second point, and provides a very reasoned explanation as to his decision, which implies that race was not a factor, even implicitly.
How is her virtue in being a role model to black girls nothing to do with race?
That sentence is about being a role model, not the group for whom she is a role model.
Switch out 'black girls' for 'the deaf', 'the disabled', or 'Syrian refugee orphans' ad infinitum, and the sentence still works, particularly given the judge's subsequent reference to social justice. So it is not about race, but about being a role model for a group which needs role models. If you don't think black girls need role models, I'd suggest you try being one for a while.
In the US, there is an entire industry intent on building racism (and a whole list of other -isms) into every issue, regardless of fit. I had not realized it was as bad in the UK, where the historical factors conducive to giving rise to such attitudes are nowhere near as strong.
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The Grand Tour is uneven. The ones that most closely follow the old TG format have been occasionally good, mostly OK to poor. The big set piece adventures to somewhere exotic have been every bit as good as their old TG equivalents, if not better as they seem to have a bit more budget to play with.
Sorry to object again, but that's nonsense. It has nothing to do with 'good faith'. It's no different from any other draft international agreement which doesn't get ratified by a country's legislature. Happens all the time.
Indeed, Mr Nabavi. I think Mr Green needs to look at how the US Senate works.
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The Grand Tour is uneven. The ones that most closely follow the old TG format have been occasionally good, mostly OK to poor. The big set piece adventures to somewhere exotic have been every bit as good as their old TG equivalents, if not better as they seem to have a bit more budget to play with.
One thing you can’t fault, the stunning 4K cinematography. I think they would be better just agreeing to make 4-5 “big adventures” per year that are say 90 mins long, as they can’t do all the popular top gear segments and their replacements are naff.
I still think Theresa is going to pull off a deal. Though the behaviour of Parliament is making it ever more difficult...
I'd say most likely outcome is she brings her deal back with another waffly letter from the EU giving "assurances" that "no-one wants the backstop to be used" (but without actually changing anything in the deal itself), the ERG and DUP swallow their pride, and it scrapes through Parliament.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Good grief. In effect, the Sheriff was condoning the offence.
People like Xenon will be shocked to learn that Christopher Daniel is white.
I don't think that having good career prospects, or educational prospects, ahead of you, should result in any sentencing discount. If anything, it seems worse for such people to commit serious offences than it is for people who have nothing.
What happened to that female student who stabbed her boyfriend and was convicted but she was still intending to become a doctor?
She should apply for a surgery residency, given her skills with a knife ...
While surgery is violence with permission, generally it needs to be a little more controlled.
I suspect she will be banned by the GMC, and move into non clinical research.
Maybe she could become a forensic pathologist, what with dead people not minding so much if you stick a blade in them, and her experience of the criminal justice system...
Meanwhile, for a bit of light relief from from discussions about jailed MPs and Br*x*t, I have found myself in Las Vegas for a few days.
Anything I absolutely have to do while here?
S-i-L lives in LV, and we've found the regular attractions pale very quickly. However, a trip out into the desert to somewhere like Red Rock Canyon is worth doing, as are some of the "ghost towns" nearby. It's near enough to the Grand Canyon to take a road trip there (there are bus tours from LV) or helicopter tour if you're willing to drop the $$$. The Hoover Dam is much closer and a good compromise if you don't fancy going all the way to the canyon.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
I understand that there’s sometimes a fine line between punishing someone for an offence and destroying someone’s future life for things they did as a juvenile, but on the face of it this looks like the wrong decision. Would be interested to hear the reasoning, maybe it was that the offences were at the very minor end of the scale or there was some other mitigation. He certainly had a good lawyer.
Meanwhile, for a bit of light relief from from discussions about jailed MPs and Br*x*t, I have found myself in Las Vegas for a few days.
Anything I absolutely have to do while here?
Avoid the pretty women who turn out to be prostitutes and/or men.
On checking in I was asked about 10 times whether I really only wanted just one key to my room so it is quite obvious that the default is not to avoid such people.
I still think Theresa is going to pull off a deal. Though the behaviour of Parliament is making it ever more difficult...
I'd say most likely outcome is she brings her deal back with another waffly letter from the EU giving "assurances" that "no-one wants the backstop to be used" (but without actually changing anything in the deal itself), the ERG and DUP swallow their pride, and it scrapes through Parliament.
May has decided to run down the clock a little more by chasing unicorns. The main goal is to try to shift the blame.
A dental student found guilty of sexually assaulting a six-year-old girl will face no punishment after being granted an absolute discharge.
Christopher Daniel, 18, denied carrying out numerous assaults on the girl while he was aged 15 to 17 and she was between six and eight.
He was granted the discharge by Sheriff Gerard Sinclair after being found guilty at Dumbarton sheriff court at the end of a three-day trial. It means that Daniel, from Glasgow, will not be placed on the sex offenders register and the guilty verdict was not recorded as a conviction.
The victim’s family were not allowed to see a report sent by the sheriff to the Crown Office explaining his “wholly exceptional” decision, an STV investigation has found. They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal.
Good grief. In effect, the Sheriff was condoning the offence.
People like Xenon will be shocked to learn that Christopher Daniel is white.
I don't think that having good career prospects, or educational prospects, ahead of you, should result in any sentencing discount. If anything, it seems worse for such people to commit serious offences than it is for people who have nothing.
What happened to that female student who stabbed her boyfriend and was convicted but she was still intending to become a doctor?
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The Grand Tour is uneven. The ones that most closely follow the old TG format have been occasionally good, mostly OK to poor. The big set piece adventures to somewhere exotic have been every bit as good as their old TG equivalents, if not better as they seem to have a bit more budget to play with.
One thing you can’t fault, the stunning 4K cinematography. I think they would be better just agreeing to make 4-5 “big adventures” per year that are say 90 mins long, as they can’t do all the popular top gear segments and their replacements are naff.
I think the next season is going to be exactly that.
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The Grand Tour is uneven. The ones that most closely follow the old TG format have been occasionally good, mostly OK to poor. The big set piece adventures to somewhere exotic have been every bit as good as their old TG equivalents, if not better as they seem to have a bit more budget to play with.
One thing you can’t fault, the stunning 4K cinematography. I think they would be better just agreeing to make 4-5 “big adventures” per year that are say 90 mins long, as they can’t do all the popular top gear segments and their replacements are naff.
I rewatch the opening of the first GT (Clarkson going from London => Hothouse Flowers in the desert) quite often. It is fantastic.
Meanwhile, for a bit of light relief from from discussions about jailed MPs and Br*x*t, I have found myself in Las Vegas for a few days.
Anything I absolutely have to do while here?
S-i-L lives in LV, and we've found the regular attractions pale very quickly. However, a trip out into the desert to somewhere like Red Rock Canyon is worth doing, as are some of the "ghost towns" nearby. It's near enough to the Grand Canyon to take a road trip there (there are bus tours from LV) or helicopter tour if you're willing to drop the $$$. The Hoover Dam is much closer and a good compromise if you don't fancy going all the way to the canyon.
Many thanks an itinerary is beginning to form itself!
I don't think her being black has a tin of beans to do with her sentence, OTOH it has probably made her brother's more severe because he is a young black man. The leniency is due to the judge being a bleeding lefty halfwit.
Nope. It's more the hard rightwing bias on here through which PBers view the world.
Onasanya MP and solicitor gets 3 months jail. Her brother gets 10 months jail for the same offence. Both black.
She got off very lightly, and I agree with @tlg86 that the jury should have been asked to determine when her dishonesty began. But Festus was actually jailed for 3 offences:
Interesting that the Speaker didn't call either of the amendments calling for indicative votes on options (F amd P), nor the SNP one calling for Article 50 to be revoked (Q):
I still think Theresa is going to pull off a deal. Though the behaviour of Parliament is making it ever more difficult...
So do I. Passed in Feb/March, leave in Q2. Then she continues as PM until 2021 when she steps down and is replaced by Brexit Czar Michael Gove.
This is the future that I see. I've tried others, I really have, and I know that plenty of them seem more likely right now, but none are quite as vivid and realistic looking on my device as the one above.
Meanwhile, for a bit of light relief from from discussions about jailed MPs and Br*x*t, I have found myself in Las Vegas for a few days.
Anything I absolutely have to do while here?
Avoid the pretty women who turn out to be prostitutes and/or men.
On checking in I was asked about 10 times whether I really only wanted just one key to my room so it is quite obvious that the default is not to avoid such people.
It's so you can leave one in the slot by the door to keep the lights and a/c on while you're out.
Mr. Urquhart, only seen about half an episode of Top Gear since May, Clarkson, and Hammond left. Not seen any of the Grand Tour.
The Grand Tour is uneven. The ones that most closely follow the old TG format have been occasionally good, mostly OK to poor. The big set piece adventures to somewhere exotic have been every bit as good as their old TG equivalents, if not better as they seem to have a bit more budget to play with.
One thing you can’t fault, the stunning 4K cinematography. I think they would be better just agreeing to make 4-5 “big adventures” per year that are say 90 mins long, as they can’t do all the popular top gear segments and their replacements are naff.
I rewatch the opening of the first GT (Clarkson going from London => Hothouse Flowers in the desert) quite often. It is fantastic.
I hate to think how much they spent on that opening sequence.
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https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-festus-onasanya-and-fiona-onasanya-sentencing-remarks-of-mr-justice-stuart-smith/
This is Groundhog Day.
You have not simply let yourself down; you have let down those who look to you for inspiration, your party, your profession and Parliament.
Constituents? I guess a judge wouldn't know who they were.
busjoyridden Nissan micra with mystery Russian behind the wheel.Still a short list, but shaping up.
https://twitter.com/montie/status/1090250234003890176
By your own efforts and personal qualities you have risen to a great height, which I am satisfied you intended to use not so much for personal advancement as for the cause of social justice which first persuaded you to go into politics.
(and Margaret Moran, deemed not fit to plead).
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1090251379086712834
Dr. Spyn, I'd watch Top Gear again if the Duke of Edinburgh were a presenter.
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1090251592996147200?s=21
Neither Wembley or Wigan’s ground are being used for rugby league World Cup, but leigh’s is.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/rugby-league/47040055
That’s like holding an ashes series and not playing at lords or headingly.
But of course we are talking about June 2016. Not today.
Edit: Even back in June 2016, I don't think there would have been cross-party agreement on anything. As you have pointed out many times, the opposition just want to oppose. They set up their six unrealisable tests specifically to provide an excuse to oppose anything agreed with the EU.
https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1090253665737342976?s=21
I suspect she will be banned by the GMC, and move into non clinical research.
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1090250386550722560
And as for six impossible tests, well the whole thing is impossible so what difference would a few more contradictory and unachievable requests make?
@DavidL would know better.
Anything I absolutely have to do while here?
Switch out 'black girls' for 'the deaf', 'the disabled', or 'Syrian refugee orphans' ad infinitum, and the sentence still works, particularly given the judge's subsequent reference to social justice. So it is not about race, but about being a role model for a group which needs role models. If you don't think black girls need role models, I'd suggest you try being one for a while.
In the US, there is an entire industry intent on building racism (and a whole list of other -isms) into every issue, regardless of fit. I had not realized it was as bad in the UK, where the historical factors conducive to giving rise to such attitudes are nowhere near as strong.
Every single night however....
I understand that there’s sometimes a fine line between punishing someone for an offence and destroying someone’s future life for things they did as a juvenile, but on the face of it this looks like the wrong decision. Would be interested to hear the reasoning, maybe it was that the offences were at the very minor end of the scale or there was some other mitigation. He certainly had a good lawyer.
Don’t take your credit cards to the casino, and make sure you wear a watch ‘cos there’s no clocks anywhere.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sentencing-remarks-onasanyadocx.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/29/amendments-to-may-statement-brexit-bill
This is the future that I see. I've tried others, I really have, and I know that plenty of them seem more likely right now, but none are quite as vivid and realistic looking on my device as the one above.
Bravo!