Moeen Ali and Sam Curran are really showing up the top five here. Conditions are far worse and yet they've scored more runs each than the supposed batsmen added together. If I were Keaton Jennings I would take this decision away from Ed Smith, and if I were Joe Root I would be writing a letter of resignation.
Mr. Rentool, because at some point Labour MPs (and members) need to decide whether they want Corbyn to be PM or not. Bleating about anti-semitism is all well and good, but those MPs who line up behind Corbyn, even if they grumble, come the next General Election will be campaigning to make him Prime Minister.
We'll see if anyone else joins Frank Fields. Kudos to him for resigning.
hasnt his local party go infested with corbynites threatening de selection? FF is one of the very few who could possibly pull of as an independent. Though it would be difficult.
And now every labour mp each time they appear in the media are going to be askew
'Do you agree with Frank Field's resignation over anti semitism'
What a descent into turmoil by a once noble party
And Frank Field was a credit to labour that Corbyn and his cabal can only dream about
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
Thought this was quite interesting, not about right or wrong just a reflection on the two different universes (as he puts it) of Corbyn.
I am more interested in a politician that talks to the second universe of normal people...
The solution has been obvious for some time. Corbyn needs a partner from the right of the party capable of dealing with press.
Corbyns error, which will keep him out of office, is that he is unable to work with or motivate people who do not fully agree with him.
Blair worked with and promoted left wingers.
It is unfortunate that Corbyn just packed his cabinet and front bench with people who agreed with him and never gave anyone else a chance...
I don't think the messenger would help much if Corbyn was still leader, he could be a bit smoother with the media but considering how they have been with him I don't expect or perhaps even want him to treat them any differently to how they treat him. I think the problem would largely remain regardless of having someone smooth from the right of the party to deal with the press. They would still really go for Corbyn.
Abandon the idea of good press and go straight to the voters, the tv rules kick in around election time so there is no choice for the TV coverage but to attempt to show balance and that is when we have the opportunity to get our message across.
That doesn't work. There are 80000 voters in each constituency. If you want to speak to half of them each year, you need to reach over 100 a day. You need mass media.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
Mr. Rentool, because at some point Labour MPs (and members) need to decide whether they want Corbyn to be PM or not. Bleating about anti-semitism is all well and good, but those MPs who line up behind Corbyn, even if they grumble, come the next General Election will be campaigning to make him Prime Minister.
Why did Frank Field nominate Corbyn for a shot at the leadership then ?
He has known him for years Hardly kudos more like thick as pig shit.
Mr. Rentool, because at some point Labour MPs (and members) need to decide whether they want Corbyn to be PM or not. Bleating about anti-semitism is all well and good, but those MPs who line up behind Corbyn, even if they grumble, come the next General Election will be campaigning to make him Prime Minister.
What Labour members and MPs opposed to Jeremy Corbyn need to decide is whether it is more important to oppose Jeremy Corbyn or to have a Labour government. It's pretty clear that the option of both is not going to be available unless he chooses to step down voluntarily.
There is an interesting parallel that I might have drawn attention to in the past. Leave advocates and supporters needed to decide whether it was more important to oppose xenophobic lies or to get Britain to leave the EU. Sadly they by and large decided that the xenophobic lies could be tolerated.
Mr. Rentool, because at some point Labour MPs (and members) need to decide whether they want Corbyn to be PM or not. Bleating about anti-semitism is all well and good, but those MPs who line up behind Corbyn, even if they grumble, come the next General Election will be campaigning to make him Prime Minister.
Why did Frank Field nominate Corbyn for a shot at the leadership then ?
He has known him for years Hardly kudos more like thick as pig shit.
I believe his stated reason was that all the other candidates were centrists and he believed that having a left wing voice in the contest was essential to get a range of views even though he didn't want Corbyn to win.
Mr. Rentool, because at some point Labour MPs (and members) need to decide whether they want Corbyn to be PM or not. Bleating about anti-semitism is all well and good, but those MPs who line up behind Corbyn, even if they grumble, come the next General Election will be campaigning to make him Prime Minister.
Corbyn or a Tory as PM, I choose Corbyn.
We aren't electing an all-powerful President, we are electing a parliament. There will be natural checks and balances from within the PLP and other parties a minority Labour government would have to rely on. We'll have a Socialist government, not a Marxist one.
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
One slight amendment. You are broadly right but in Labour's case it is the leader of the Party. That makes a big difference (cf Tim Farron).
But considering he was dropped for his wretched batting form, that 40 made under floodlights should be an abject humiliation to the top six especially the idiot who for the second test running made a dumb decision after winning he toss.
Veteran Labour MP Frank Field has quit the party's group in Parliament, saying the leadership has become "a force for anti-Semitism in British politics". The Birkenhead MP also blamed a "culture of intolerance, nastiness and intimidation" in local parties.
Moeen Ali and Sam Curran are really showing up the top five here. Conditions are far worse and yet they've scored more runs each than the supposed batsmen added together. If I were Keaton Jennings I would take this decision away from Ed Smith, and if I were Joe Root I would be writing a letter of resignation.
I get serious grief for posts like that when a wicket falls.
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
You are very blinkered and trying to move the goal posts by including both parties when you haven't got a foot to stand on
Labour under Corbyn are a disgrace to our Country and I simply cannot comprehend how anyone can knock on doors asking for him to become PM.
Mr. Rentool, then I fear you choose wrong, letting the red rosette eclipse the idiocy, misjudgements, and even worse vices of Corbyn.
A PM is not all-powerful but there is plenty of decision-making that does not require Parliamentary approval, including the disposition of the armed forces.
I hope we never have to discover whether you or I am right about this, because I'm quite confident I would be, and the consequences for the country would be appalling. [I'd also quite like to have a genuine dilemma over who to vote for, and if Labour had a leader who didn't describe Hamas as his friends or pray at the grave of terrorists, I might just have to consider whether to vote blue or red next time].
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
One slight amendment. You are broadly right but in Labour's case it is the leader of the Party. That makes a big difference (cf Tim Farron).
Is this a reference to the hostile environment policy towards the windrush generation and the citizens of nowhere comment?
She was merely a prominent Conservative who didn't speak out during the london mayoral campaign so I guess she can only be partially blamed there.
Good point.
Edit: Not seeing a rush to discipline Boris for his recent comments either...
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
That’s a good call. The batsmen have totally and utterly failed to perform in this series, there’s no reason they should keep their places except that they feel entitled to them. If we lose this Test the selectors need to do something radical next week.
Not to sound like a Lib DemTory apologist for Corbyn but are we sure Field's resignation isn't more to do with his probable deselection by the europhiles than Corbyn ?
Oh, and fair play to Frank Field, an honest and longstanding public servant who’s given his life to the Labour Party. Hopefully the next few weeks will see more sensible Labour MPs also resign the whip.
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
You are very blinkered and trying to move the goal posts by including both parties when you haven't got a foot to stand on
Labour under Corbyn are a disgrace to our Country and I simply cannot comprehend how anyone can knock on doors asking for him to become PM.
With the greatest of respect you have rose tinted glasses towards the Conservative party and the opposite towards the Labour party. Whilst you may see the current Labour party as racist and the current Conservative one as not many people have the exact opposite view, many people wonder how people can knock doors and vote for the Conservatives.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
Oh, and fair play to Frank Field, an honest and longstanding public servant who’s given his life to the Labour Party. Hopefully the next few weeks will see more sensible Labour MPs also resign the whip.
If only the likes of Chuka and Kinnock Jnr had any backbone.
A council finance manager has admitted defrauding £60,000 from the Grenfell Fire victim fund in the latest shocking fraud case linked to the disaster.
Jenny McDonagh, 39, stole cash meant for survivors of the west London tragedy, spending it on holidays to Dubai and Los Angeles, as well as expensive dinners out, designer hairstyles and online gambling.
Have Owen Jones and theJezziah ever been seen in the same room?
I was thinking about pointing out that he was likely to be deselected and perhaps jumped before he was pushed but I decided to leave it.
We are a similar age, I have the baby face thing going on as well although to a lesser extent and the politics but I think we pretty much separate at that point.
Moeen Ali and Sam Curran are really showing up the top five here. Conditions are far worse and yet they've scored more runs each than the supposed batsmen added together. If I were Keaton Jennings I would take this decision away from Ed Smith, and if I were Joe Root I would be writing a letter of resignation.
I get serious grief for posts like that when a wicket falls.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
There are plenty of good bowling attacks in Division Two. No bowling attack containing Michael Hogan and Graham Wagg can be considered a pushover.
There is a serious shortage of good batsmen, especially in the clubs at the bottom end.
Mr. Rentool, then I fear you choose wrong, letting the red rosette eclipse the idiocy, misjudgements, and even worse vices of Corbyn.
A PM is not all-powerful but there is plenty of decision-making that does not require Parliamentary approval, including the disposition of the armed forces.
I hope we never have to discover whether you or I am right about this, because I'm quite confident I would be, and the consequences for the country would be appalling. [I'd also quite like to have a genuine dilemma over who to vote for, and if Labour had a leader who didn't describe Hamas as his friends or pray at the grave of terrorists, I might just have to consider whether to vote blue or red next time].
We may be dealing with an apartheid regime with despicable views but come on Jeremy protesting outside their embassy just isn't cricket old sport...
Edit: interesting thread Richard.
I do admire your stoical defence of Corbyn but nothing you can do now will change the narrative on Corbyn and anti semetic views and this will follow him for as long as he leads the labour party including a GE campaign.
Who would have thought that virtually all the summer holidays would be dominated with Corbyn's anti semetic issues giving the government a free pass. Labour's lost summer
The problem with the racism scandals in both parties is the voters either don't care, think the other party is worse or think the other party is just as bad or just disbelieve it.
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
You are very blinkered and trying to move the goal posts by including both parties when you haven't got a foot to stand on
Labour under Corbyn are a disgrace to our Country and I simply cannot comprehend how anyone can knock on doors asking for him to become PM.
With the greatest of respect you have rose tinted glasses towards the Conservative party and the opposite towards the Labour party. Whilst you may see the current Labour party as racist and the current Conservative one as not many people have the exact opposite view, many people wonder how people can knock doors and vote for the Conservatives.
I see Corbyn as a real threat to this Country with his views and as long as he leads labour the party will continue to plumb the depths. Labour need to rid themselves of him and install someone like Thornberry
Mr. Rentool, I've voted for at least five different parties at various elections. Two at General Elections. I'm rather disheartened by the current state of the blues, but the reds are led by a complete imbecile, with a habit of siding with this nation's enemies.
In a May versus (say) Cooper contest, I'd need to weigh things up.
In an Anyone Else versus Corbyn contest, Anyone Else has my vote.
So much for Nick P's strategy of keeping quiet about antisemitism. Every time the story looks like it might die down, something comes up to push it back up the news agenda.
The fact that Corbyn can't kill this row suggests that if he becomes PM and has to deal with a crisis, it won't go very well.
A council finance manager has admitted defrauding £60,000 from the Grenfell Fire victim fund in the latest shocking fraud case linked to the disaster.
Jenny McDonagh, 39, stole cash meant for survivors of the west London tragedy, spending it on holidays to Dubai and Los Angeles, as well as expensive dinners out, designer hairstyles and online gambling.
A council finance manager has admitted defrauding £60,000 from the Grenfell Fire victim fund in the latest shocking fraud case linked to the disaster.
Jenny McDonagh, 39, stole cash meant for survivors of the west London tragedy, spending it on holidays to Dubai and Los Angeles, as well as expensive dinners out, designer hairstyles and online gambling.
So much for Nick P's strategy of keeping quiet about antisemitism. Every time the story looks like it might die down, something comes up to push it back up the news agenda.
The fact that Corbyn can't kill this row suggests that if he becomes PM and has to deal with a crisis, it won't go very well.
So much for Nick P's strategy of keeping quiet about antisemitism. Every time the story looks like it might die down, something comes up to push it back up the news agenda.
The fact that Corbyn can't kill this row suggests that if he becomes PM and has to deal with a crisis, it won't go very well.
These things aren't organically "coming up", they're deliberately being put on the news agenda. The wreath story is a rerun, it was a story during the 2017 election. The public ignored it.
But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth.... ......massive donations to crowdfunders send the same old signal to us: what happens to women is always less important than the reputation of “great” men.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
There are plenty of good bowling attacks in Division Two...
But he hasn't been making the heavy runs against all of them... and has been out cheaply in recent FC innings. But as I said, he a plausible short term expedient.
A council finance manager has admitted defrauding £60,000 from the Grenfell Fire victim fund in the latest shocking fraud case linked to the disaster.
Jenny McDonagh, 39, stole cash meant for survivors of the west London tragedy, spending it on holidays to Dubai and Los Angeles, as well as expensive dinners out, designer hairstyles and online gambling.
If ever there was a case for imposing an exemplary sentence on someone. 10 years?
If we wanted to make the punishment fit the crime, she should work as unpaid secretary to Emma Dent Coad for five years.
That'll learn her not to touch things that don't belong to her.
I did think of something similar, but who would trust her with anything?
I can’t imagine that stealing government emergency relief money will go down too well with the girls inside.
On a personal note, usually government bureaucracy that keeps money from people (welfare, housing etc) is met with harsh critism for being unfair on people. With Grenfell we got to see what happens when the government takes the opposite approach of making immediate handouts and asking questions later. At least a dozen people in prison for fraud and theft. That’s very sad to see.
That seems entirely reasonable to me. Benazir Bhutto was killed due to a bombing of a vehicle she was in, and Pervez Musharraf survived a couple of attempts to blow him up when in his car.
If you are the leader in Pakistan stay away from public roads.
That seems entirely reasonable to me. Benazir Bhutto was killed due to a bombing of a vehicle she was in, and Pervez Musharraf survived a couple of attempts to blow him up when in his car.
If you are the leader in Pakistan stay away from public roads.
I think it is the claim of it being super cheap that is being mocked.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
There are plenty of good bowling attacks in Division Two...
But he hasn't been making the heavy runs against all of them... and has been out cheaply in recent FC innings. But as I said, he a plausible short term expedient.
Who do we have as a real prospect at three ?
That's easy. Nobody.
In the longer term Steve Eskinazi of Middlesex may come into the equation, but he isn't making runs at all against any sort of attack. Harry Finch of Sussex looks promising, but he's still young.
There is a reason Root is there, and before him, Vince. It's called 'a dearth of alternatives.'
So the only two Labour MPs to quit so far are one who was facing a sexual misconduct investigation, and one who had been deselected.
Point of order: isn't it that he had been threatened with deselection?
In which case, the path to absolute power within the Labour Party is clear for Momentum ...
I think you're right: he'd already had a motion of no confidence passed in him, which obviously indicates a strong likelihood of deselection, but it hadn't formally happened yet.
I've always quite liked Field; he's always been a genuinely independently-minded MP, who doesn't just have kneejerk stances depending on what other people on his "wing" of the party thought (although people mainly focus on some his more right-wing stances, he also has sometimes criticised the Labour leadership from the left, e.g. Harriet Harman's stupid support of the government's welfare cuts). I wouldn't have voted for the motion of no confidence personally. But still, anyone who thinks this is about the principle rather than the personal is kidding themselves.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
There are plenty of good bowling attacks in Division Two...
But he hasn't been making the heavy runs against all of them... and has been out cheaply in recent FC innings. But as I said, he a plausible short term expedient.
Who do we have as a real prospect at three ?
That's easy. Nobody.
In the longer term Steve Eskinazi of Middlesex may come into the equation, but he isn't making runs at all against any sort of attack. Harry Finch of Sussex looks promising, but he's still young.
There is a reason Root is there, and before him, Vince. It's called 'a dearth of alternatives.'
That is a little unfair. Root is a class act, normally in the top 3 batsmen in the world.
So the only two Labour MPs to quit so far are one who was facing a sexual misconduct investigation, and one who had been deselected.
Point of order: isn't it that he had been threatened with deselection?
In which case, the path to absolute power within the Labour Party is clear for Momentum ...
I think you're right: he'd already had a motion of no confidence passed in him, which obviously indicates a strong likelihood of deselection, but it hadn't formally happened yet.
I've always quite liked Field; he's always been a genuinely independently-minded MP, who doesn't just have kneejerk stances depending on what other people on his "wing" of the party thought (although people mainly focus on some his more right-wing stances, he also has sometimes criticised the Labour leadership from the left, e.g. Harriet Harman's stupid support of the government's welfare cuts). I wouldn't have voted for the motion of no confidence personally. But still, anyone who thinks this is about the principle rather than the personal is kidding themselves.
It's probably both, perhaps with some other factors thrown in as well.
So much for Nick P's strategy of keeping quiet about antisemitism. Every time the story looks like it might die down, something comes up to push it back up the news agenda.
The fact that Corbyn can't kill this row suggests that if he becomes PM and has to deal with a crisis, it won't go very well.
These things aren't organically "coming up", they're deliberately being put on the news agenda. The wreath story is a rerun, it was a story during the 2017 election. The public ignored it.
I agree with this. What I don’t know is who is responsible for these stories dominating the news agenda. My guess is the Labour Right.
Of course, it is perfectly fair, as this is what your political enemies do. I doubt if the story of Toff Cameron & the pig was true, but it was cleverly used by his enemies and played into Cameron’s weakness as seemingly very rich & privileged.
A good politician should be able to move the news agenda on. Corbyn has not managed to do this.
England's top six today scored a grand total of 71.
Ian Bell is 141 not out, on a day when pretty much every other side is struggling with the bat (if you want to see a car crash, look at Leicestershire).
Can I remind people I recently tipped him to be recalled for Sri Lanka?
Good call. I would play him at 3 and drop Root to 4. The problem, however, is who plays 1 and 2.
I wouldn't play Root either. Give him the winter off.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
But who is Bell making his runs against ? (hint, most of them against the bottom of the second division...) He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done. We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
There are plenty of good bowling attacks in Division Two...
But he hasn't been making the heavy runs against all of them... and has been out cheaply in recent FC innings. But as I said, he a plausible short term expedient.
Who do we have as a real prospect at three ?
That's easy. Nobody.
In the longer term Steve Eskinazi of Middlesex may come into the equation, but he isn't making runs at all against any sort of attack. Harry Finch of Sussex looks promising, but he's still young.
There is a reason Root is there, and before him, Vince. It's called 'a dearth of alternatives.'
That is a little unfair. Root is a class act, normally in the top 3 batsmen in the world.
He's a good batsman although in the last year he's been very been prone to pretty cameos.
But he is not a number 3, unfortunately, or at least, not a number three cum captain.
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'Do you agree with Frank Field's resignation over anti semitism'
What a descent into turmoil by a once noble party
And Frank Field was a credit to labour that Corbyn and his cabal can only dream about
With Parliament coming back soon the newspapers will have to actually get back to reporting on the government more regularly, which is probably good for Labour.
As a temporary measure, Denly and Burns to open, Bell at three, maybe Buttler at four as captain, Bairstow, Stokes, Ali, Woakes (also either captain or vice captain) Curran, Rashid, Porter.
I think that would be an interesting side and give our misfiring seniors (a) a much needed break and (b) a sharp reminder that they perform or they're out.
He has known him for years Hardly kudos more like thick as pig shit.
There is an interesting parallel that I might have drawn attention to in the past. Leave advocates and supporters needed to decide whether it was more important to oppose xenophobic lies or to get Britain to leave the EU. Sadly they by and large decided that the xenophobic lies could be tolerated.
That doesn't make his resignation wrong, however. The bad does not wash away the good.
We aren't electing an all-powerful President, we are electing a parliament. There will be natural checks and balances from within the PLP and other parties a minority Labour government would have to rely on. We'll have a Socialist government, not a Marxist one.
But considering he was dropped for his wretched batting form, that 40 made under floodlights should be an abject humiliation to the top six especially the idiot who for the second test running made a dumb decision after winning he toss.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45359009
Not mincing his words.
Labour under Corbyn are a disgrace to our Country and I simply cannot comprehend how anyone can knock on doors asking for him to become PM.
A PM is not all-powerful but there is plenty of decision-making that does not require Parliamentary approval, including the disposition of the armed forces.
I hope we never have to discover whether you or I am right about this, because I'm quite confident I would be, and the consequences for the country would be appalling. [I'd also quite like to have a genuine dilemma over who to vote for, and if Labour had a leader who didn't describe Hamas as his friends or pray at the grave of terrorists, I might just have to consider whether to vote blue or red next time].
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1035188362829864966
She was merely a prominent Conservative who didn't speak out during the london mayoral campaign so I guess she can only be partially blamed there.
Good point.
Edit: Not seeing a rush to discipline Boris for his recent comments either...
He's a plausible short term expedient, but no more than that.
England's problem is, of course, at 1,2 and 3.
It's not as though we haven't tried a large number of options as openers; all have failed, and Cook is done.
We don't have a number three at all (Root should be batting at four where he belongs - and though I agree he shouldn't be captain, there is no obvious replacement, though Woakes and Buttler are possibilities).
We have a fine middle order and decent bowling options. And no solutions at the top of the order.
They initially caused this mess and they were aware of his past , and suitability to lead the Labour Party.
Jenny McDonagh, 39, stole cash meant for survivors of the west London tragedy, spending it on holidays to Dubai and Los Angeles, as well as expensive dinners out, designer hairstyles and online gambling.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6113131/Grenfell-council-worker-helped-money-meant-victims-charged-fraud.html
We are a similar age, I have the baby face thing going on as well although to a lesser extent and the politics but I think we pretty much separate at that point.
There is a serious shortage of good batsmen, especially in the clubs at the bottom end.
Admittedly this is like saying someone is less crazy than Chris Williamson, but let's take the positives here.
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1035192373461045248
https://slate.com/technology/2018/08/no-matter-how-bad-it-gets-trump-will-never-give-up.html?
And in that context...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45358883
In a May versus (say) Cooper contest, I'd need to weigh things up.
In an Anyone Else versus Corbyn contest, Anyone Else has my vote.
I don't know for sure, but I thought so. I might be wrong though.
The fact that Corbyn can't kill this row suggests that if he becomes PM and has to deal with a crisis, it won't go very well.
That'll learn her not to touch things that don't belong to her.
Imran Khan mocked for helicopter home-to-work commute
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-45356096
In which case, the path to absolute power within the Labour Party is clear for Momentum ...
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1035195615947497473
But as I said, he a plausible short term expedient.
Who do we have as a real prospect at three ?
I can’t imagine that stealing government emergency relief money will go down too well with the girls inside.
On a personal note, usually government bureaucracy that keeps money from people (welfare, housing etc) is met with harsh critism for being unfair on people. With Grenfell we got to see what happens when the government takes the opposite approach of making immediate handouts and asking questions later. At least a dozen people in prison for fraud and theft. That’s very sad to see.
This may be both directly important in terms of who might join him, but also how they react to the sh*t he will receive from the Corbynite faction.
If you are the leader in Pakistan stay away from public roads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW-0kbIcf1E
In the longer term Steve Eskinazi of Middlesex may come into the equation, but he isn't making runs at all against any sort of attack. Harry Finch of Sussex looks promising, but he's still young.
There is a reason Root is there, and before him, Vince. It's called 'a dearth of alternatives.'
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/whether-corbyn-becomes-prime-minister-or-not-the-far-left-will-make-sure-we-suffer-1.469009
Some disgusting examples of the cult on twitter / blogging.
I've always quite liked Field; he's always been a genuinely independently-minded MP, who doesn't just have kneejerk stances depending on what other people on his "wing" of the party thought (although people mainly focus on some his more right-wing stances, he also has sometimes criticised the Labour leadership from the left, e.g. Harriet Harman's stupid support of the government's welfare cuts). I wouldn't have voted for the motion of no confidence personally. But still, anyone who thinks this is about the principle rather than the personal is kidding themselves.
I can identify with the commentator's curse. Boy I've made some mistaken predictions in the past.
Of course, it is perfectly fair, as this is what your political enemies do. I doubt if the story of Toff Cameron & the pig was true, but it was cleverly used by his enemies and played into Cameron’s weakness as seemingly very rich & privileged.
A good politician should be able to move the news agenda on. Corbyn has not managed to do this.
But he is not a number 3, unfortunately, or at least, not a number three cum captain.