Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
Well it takes one piece of crap on the side of the road to recognise another.
You know, for a guy who doesn't want to only be known for playing a really long match at Wimbledon, John Isner sure is playing another really long match at Wimbledon. 10:22 AM - 13 Jul 2018"
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
Well it takes one piece of crap on the side of the road to recognise another.
That doesn’t even make sense. Try harder next time.
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
Well it takes one piece of crap on the side of the road to recognise another.
That doesn’t even make sense. Try harder next time.
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
Well it takes one piece of crap on the side of the road to recognise another.
Some people are so upset by the protests that we’ve known are going to happen, the virtue signalling argument is a weird one as well. I doubt anyone who takes the day off work to go and protest Trump is simply doing it for show, and not because, you know they actually don’t like Trump.
In soft fruit world today's Tesco Strawberry score is a seven:
Aberdeenshire Angus Perthshire Fife Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Kent
More interestingly Tesco finally has some Scottish raspberries helping to give for I think the first time more sources of raspberries than strawberries:
Angus Perthshire Nottinghamshire Staffordshire Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Berkshire Kent
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
For shame. I explained upthread why I joined an anti-Trump demonstration yesterday. For you to glibly dismiss demonstrators as "virtue-signalling fools" shows an unwillingness to engage with the argument.
I doubt anyone who takes the day off work to go and protest Trump is simply doing it for show, and not because, you know they actually don’t like Trump.
What's the difference, given how pointless a UK demonstration against a US President is? He's a jerk, and he's President of the USA, and tomorrow he'll still be a jerk, and he'll still be President of the USA, so what are they doing, if it's not for show, and/or to make themselves feel better?
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
For shame. I explained upthread why I joined an anti-Trump demonstration yesterday. For you to glibly dismiss demonstrators as "virtue-signalling fools" shows an unwillingness to engage with the argument.
Did you take your trash home or leave it as litter?
If you took it home then it doesn't sound like its you he's referring to.
I doubt anyone who takes the day off work to go and protest Trump is simply doing it for show, and not because, you know they actually don’t like Trump.
What's the difference, given how pointless a UK demonstration against a US President is? He's a jerk, and he's President of the USA, and tomorrow he'll still be a jerk, and he'll still be President of the USA, so what are they doing, if it's not for show, and/or to make themselves feel better?
I don't agree with the protestors but I can understand why people would protest against something they strongly disagree with. For example f Corbyn ever becomes PM I can see people on the right doing the same thing even if it doesn't make any difference.
I don't agree with the protestors but I can understand why people would protest against something they strongly disagree with. For example f Corbyn ever becomes PM I can see people on the right doing the same thing even if it doesn't make any difference.
It makes more sense to demonstrate against your own government, although not much if it's not trying to influence some particular decision.
Actually having thrown that hand grenade, it is time to log off. As a one-time Constituency Party Chairman of the Conservatives, I look forward to discussing with Brexit fanatics how the Tory's have (hopefully temporarily) wrecked their reputation for business and the economy through their irrational hatred of the EU, and the lies and deceptions about sovereignty. Have a great weekend everyone!!
The answer to your question lies in Edition 35 of British Social Attitudes.
Over the course of 25 years, British public opinion has steadily become more eurosceptic. In 1992, 40% favoured eurosceptic positions (withdrawal or reducing the powers of EU institutions), and 38% favoured europhile positions (extra powers for EU institutions or a single EU government). Now the respective numbers are 69% and 14%. Back in 1992, being strongly pro-EU was mainstream; now it's on the fringe.
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
Well it takes one piece of crap on the side of the road to recognise another.
Some people are so upset by the protests that we’ve known are going to happen, the virtue signalling argument is a weird one as well. I doubt anyone who takes the day off work to go and protest Trump is simply doing it for show, and not because, you know they actually don’t like Trump.
Um, surely that is the only possible reason for doing it. I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with them going doing it, but that is what is happening - a lot of people are taking the time to visibly show that they dislike Trump rather than what most of us do, namely go online and say we don't like him.
It's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own, but equally I don't see that we can pretend these protests are anything other than people putting on a show. At best Trump is annoyed, so it really is just about the people protesting, which is fine if that's what they want.
Walking home I see plenty of discarded anti-Trump signs. Then again, it’s no surprise that the puerile virtue-signalling fools currently blocking up central London wouldn’t think to take their rubbish home with them.
For shame. I explained upthread why I joined an anti-Trump demonstration yesterday. For you to glibly dismiss demonstrators as "virtue-signalling fools" shows an unwillingness to engage with the argument.
I read your ‘explanation’. The first part was to say that British captains of industry etc should be discouraged from ‘consorting’ with Trump. Quite how it helps this country to freeze out the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, who has the future of NATO in his hands, I don’t know.
Your second argument was even thinner. The idea that swing voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan will pay any heed to some protestors in Oxfordshire is for the birds. In fact, the reaction here to Obama’s ‘back of the queue’ statement and the dismal failure of the Guardian’s letter-writing campaign for the 2004 Presidential election shows that such efforts are more likely to be counterproductive.
Protests against foreign leaders for some are like masturbation for others. It might give you pleasure and satisfaction, but let’s not imbue it with moral weight or pretend it will change the world.
This may be passing UK people by but certain Congressional Republicans are, through hearings and information requests, trying to torpedo the Muller enquiry. Currently they are trying to blow the cover of an informant.
In soft fruit world today's Tesco Strawberry score is a seven:
Aberdeenshire Angus Perthshire Fife Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Kent
More interestingly Tesco finally has some Scottish raspberries helping to give for I think the first time more sources of raspberries than strawberries:
Angus Perthshire Nottinghamshire Staffordshire Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Berkshire Kent
@Richard_Nabavi From what I’ve seen on my timeline, some are going out there and doing it because they are concerned that if Trump coming is just treated as normal visit, then that contributes to the normalisation of Trumpism.
@kle4 The virtue signalling accusation though implies a lack of sincerity in what someone is doing that you are simply ‘putting on a show’ of moral superiority as opposed to genuinely caring about said matter. I doubt the protestors are faking it, anyone who makes the effort to go out there today must genuinely be against Trump.
In soft fruit world today's Tesco Strawberry score is a seven:
Aberdeenshire Angus Perthshire Fife Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Kent
More interestingly Tesco finally has some Scottish raspberries helping to give for I think the first time more sources of raspberries than strawberries:
Angus Perthshire Nottinghamshire Staffordshire Cambridgeshire Herefordshire Berkshire Kent
@Richard_Nabavi From what I’ve seen on my timeline, some are going out there and doing it because they are concerned that if Trump coming is just treated as normal visit, then that contributes to the normalisation of Trumpism.
@kle4 The virtue signalling accusation though implies a lack of sincerity in what someone is doing that you are simply ‘putting on a show’ of moral superiority as opposed to genuinely caring about said matter. I doubt the protestors are faking it, anyone who makes the effort to go out there today must genuinely be against Trump.
Oh, I don't personally think virtue signalling implies a lack of sincerity, necessarily, more just that the motivation is more about the individual signalling their virtue than what they are concerned about. Which is to say the emotion or thought conveyed may well be sincerely held, but the person is very conscious of how they are displaying it. It's a phrase I'm a fan of, like snowflake, because I think it can apply to left and right in the right circumstances.
@Alistair, @DavidL I think the long summer daylight is what's behind the famous quality of Scottish raspberries. I'm currently further north than either Edinburgh or Dundee, and I can tell you that the raspberries here in Finland knock spots off any other. Even so I look forward to our own Scottish crop in August.
@Alistair, @DavidL I think the long summer daylight is what's behind the famous quality of Scottish raspberries. I'm currently further north than either Edinburgh or Dundee, and I can tell you that the raspberries here in Finland knock spots off any other. Even so I look forward to our own Scottish crop in August.
As I understand it it is lack of light. In mid summer the Raspberries grow too quickly and so don't fully develop their sugars and flavour. Autumn Rasps stay on the cane for longer so get more sugars.
@Alistair, @DavidL I think the long summer daylight is what's behind the famous quality of Scottish raspberries. I'm currently further north than either Edinburgh or Dundee, and I can tell you that the raspberries here in Finland knock spots off any other. Even so I look forward to our own Scottish crop in August.
As I understand it it is lack of light. In mid summer the Raspberries grow too quickly and so don't fully develop their sugars and flavour. Autumn Rasps stay on the cane for longer so get more sugars.
I don't agree with the protestors but I can understand why people would protest against something they strongly disagree with. For example f Corbyn ever becomes PM I can see people on the right doing the same thing even if it doesn't make any difference.
It makes more sense to demonstrate against your own government, although not much if it's not trying to influence some particular decision.
"Our own government" - in fact the Conservative government headed by Mrs May, not mine at all - is on the point of selling us out to American big business and unscrupulous short-term fund-managers. My reading is that that is what people have been protesting about.
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Italy, EMG poll:
M5S-EFDD: 30% (-1)
LEGA-ENF: 28% (+1)
PD-S&D: 18%
FI-EPP: 10%
FdI-*: 4%
LeU-S&D: 4% (+1)
+E-ALDE: 2%
Ncl-*: 1%
PSI/Verdi/CP/SVP-S&D/G-EFA/*/EPP: 1%
Field work: 6/07/18 – 8/07/18
Sample size: 1,526"
' Police have fired plastic baton rounds during one of the worst nights of violence in Londonderry for years.
Seventy-four petrol bombs and two improvised explosive devices were thrown at officers on Thursday - the sixth consecutive night of violence. '
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44816025
@NailaJeanMeyers
You know, for a guy who doesn't want to only be known for playing a really long match at Wimbledon, John Isner sure is playing another really long match at Wimbledon.
10:22 AM - 13 Jul 2018"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isner–Mahut_match_at_the_2010_Wimbledon_Championships
BBC. Grow up!
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If you took it home then it doesn't sound like its you he's referring to.
https://twitter.com/Suewilson91/status/1017725558032039936
Over the course of 25 years, British public opinion has steadily become more eurosceptic. In 1992, 40% favoured eurosceptic positions (withdrawal or reducing the powers of EU institutions), and 38% favoured europhile positions (extra powers for EU institutions or a single EU government). Now the respective numbers are 69% and 14%. Back in 1992, being strongly pro-EU was mainstream; now it's on the fringe.
It's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own, but equally I don't see that we can pretend these protests are anything other than people putting on a show. At best Trump is annoyed, so it really is just about the people protesting, which is fine if that's what they want.
Your second argument was even thinner. The idea that swing voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan will pay any heed to some protestors in Oxfordshire is for the birds. In fact, the reaction here to Obama’s ‘back of the queue’ statement and the dismal failure of the Guardian’s letter-writing campaign for the 2004 Presidential election shows that such efforts are more likely to be counterproductive.
Protests against foreign leaders for some are like masturbation for others. It might give you pleasure and satisfaction, but let’s not imbue it with moral weight or pretend it will change the world.
And that picture is just superb
@kle4 The virtue signalling accusation though implies a lack of sincerity in what someone is doing that you are simply ‘putting on a show’ of moral superiority as opposed to genuinely caring about said matter. I doubt the protestors are faking it, anyone who makes the effort to go out there today must genuinely be against Trump.
Like all early autumn raspberries they are completely tasteless.
I think the long summer daylight is what's behind the famous quality of Scottish raspberries. I'm currently further north than either Edinburgh or Dundee, and I can tell you that the raspberries here in Finland knock spots off any other. Even so I look forward to our own Scottish crop in August.
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My best Raps from my plants are the October ones.