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  • HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    Thats because everyone wants to live in the South East. We don't really have a housing problem, we have a regional imbalance problem.
  • TonyETonyE Posts: 938

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    Who is going to the Whips office?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    So now she's looking for a new chief whip does this set off a proper reshuffle?
  • I was told a few years ago that I’d make an excellent Chief Whip.

    Just saying.
  • HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    Thats because everyone wants to live in the South East. We don't really have a housing problem, we have a regional imbalance problem.
    There is a really interesting recent freakonomics podcast about German economy and contained in it why they don't have the same problem as London / SE.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518
    TonyE said:

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    Who is going to the Whips office?
    Someone who’s the squeakiest of squeaky clean and has the respect of the whole party.

    Narrows the list of options down somewhat.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Gosh, what a joke we are. We can't even have proper bloody sex scandals.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    Gavin Williamson - @Shadsy wins !
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Also, having seen the full spreadsheet, there seems to be a rather high correlation between being considered a potential future leader and being named on the sheet. Considering the timing it seems to me that someone may be trying to get rid of some rivals.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    TonyE said:

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    Who is going to the Whips office?
    Priti Patel.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,893
    It makes sense for May to promote one of her allies in Williamson rather than bringing someone totally new in.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518
    Pulpstar said:

    Gavin Williamson - @Shadsy wins !

    Breathes sigh of relief at staying out of that one last night!
  • Quite glad I didn't get around to backing anyone. It wouldn't've been Williamson.
  • Chameleon said:

    Also, having seen the full spreadsheet, there seems to be a rather high correlation between being considered a potential future leader and being named on the sheet. Considering the timing it seems to me that someone may be trying to get rid of some rivals.

    And for some reason Boris isn't on the list..
  • Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    Strong and Stable. Strong and Stable.
  • Esther McVey now in no 10
  • GIN1138 said:

    Marf is due on Daily Politics at about 1250.

    The rise and rise of Marf continues...
    She's been bumped to tomorrow, because of the Fallon story: Tugendhat is scheduled to appear today on the programme.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Pulpstar said:

    TonyE said:

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    Who is going to the Whips office?
    Priti Patel.
    Priti to chief whip, Rory The Tory to foreign aid?
  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,565

    HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    So anyone in Surrey whinging about over-development can move to Hereford or Shrewsbury if they are so concerned. We deliver 1,500 homes year on year without riots (in the SE) Can be done if the infrastructure is there (the Coalition scrapping LABGI (growth) funding did not help but not terminal) Time to take the NIMBYs on!
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    From PPS (Dave's) to Defence Secretary in 18 months - that's an impressive rise by any accounts: it will also be Williamson's first ever Departmental Ministerial role.
  • Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    Strong and Stable. Strong and Stable.
    LOL. At least he can assure himself (as Chief Whip) that there is nothing that will come out now that he is DoD.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Esther Returns!!!!!!
  • Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Gavin Williamson - @Shadsy wins !

    Breathes sigh of relief at staying out of that one last night!
    Me too.
  • Mr. Gin, that's life.
  • Beth Rigby‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @BethRigby 2 mins2 minutes ago

    NEW: Esther McVey just into No 10

    chief whip?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    JohnO said:

    From PPS (Dave's) to Defence Secretary in 18 months - that's an impressive rise by any accounts: it will also be Williamson's first ever Departmental Ministerial role.

    Nabavi reckoned he was a dud...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
  • tpfkar said:

    HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    So anyone in Surrey whinging about over-development can move to Hereford or Shrewsbury if they are so concerned. We deliver 1,500 homes year on year without riots (in the SE) Can be done if the infrastructure is there (the Coalition scrapping LABGI (growth) funding did not help but not terminal) Time to take the NIMBYs on!
    A lot do when they're retired and sell up.
  • Gavin Williamson was May's campaign manager for the leadership.
  • Chameleon said:

    Also, having seen the full spreadsheet, there seems to be a rather high correlation between being considered a potential future leader and being named on the sheet. Considering the timing it seems to me that someone may be trying to get rid of some rivals.

    And for some reason Boris isn't on the list..
    I thought he was on the list..
  • GIN1138 said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Esther Returns!!!!!!
    Cannot come soon enough
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Sandpit said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
    Will she have to guts to sack/demote Hammond and Boris?
  • tpfkar said:

    HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    So anyone in Surrey whinging about over-development can move to Hereford or Shrewsbury if they are so concerned. We deliver 1,500 homes year on year without riots (in the SE) Can be done if the infrastructure is there (the Coalition scrapping LABGI (growth) funding did not help but not terminal) Time to take the NIMBYs on!
    There are three dimensions and Britain needs to consider using the third one far more than it does. That doesn't need to mean tower blocks. Five or six floors would be ample.
  • GIN1138 said:

    JohnO said:

    From PPS (Dave's) to Defence Secretary in 18 months - that's an impressive rise by any accounts: it will also be Williamson's first ever Departmental Ministerial role.

    Nabavi reckoned he was a dud...
    He’s a dud in front of people/crowds.

    He’s a good backroom guy.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,406
    GIN1138 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
    Will she have to guts to sack/demote Hammond and Boris?
    Don't reshuffles normally start at the top and then work your way down?
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251

    Gavin Williamson was May's campaign manager for the leadership.

    Erm
  • Gavin Williamson was May's campaign manager for the leadership.

    Nah, that was Chris Grayling.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    rkrkrk said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
    Will she have to guts to sack/demote Hammond and Boris?
    Don't reshuffles normally start at the top and then work your way down?
    Yes. Which is why I doubt this will touch the "top four" (which it should)
  • Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    A bloody good question.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518
    GIN1138 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
    Will she have to guts to sack/demote Hammond and Boris?
    Moving the CoE three weeks before the budget would be, erm, brave.
  • Gavin Williamson was May's campaign manager for the leadership.

    Nah, that was Chris Grayling.
    Is that why he is still in the cabinet
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    tpfkar said:

    HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    So anyone in Surrey whinging about over-development can move to Hereford or Shrewsbury if they are so concerned. We deliver 1,500 homes year on year without riots (in the SE) Can be done if the infrastructure is there (the Coalition scrapping LABGI (growth) funding did not help but not terminal) Time to take the NIMBYs on!
    There are three dimensions and Britain needs to consider using the third one far more than it does. That doesn't need to mean tower blocks. Five or six floors would be ample.

    I've seen houses already being rebuilt into attics and with basements - so that's 4 floors just for a single home.

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Sandpit said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Esther McVey now in no 10

    Good news for Esther.

    This is looking like a proper reshuffle.
    Will she have to guts to sack/demote Hammond and Boris?
    Moving the CoE three weeks before the budget would be, erm, brave.
    The budget could then be cancelled and moved back to March (where it should always be anyway)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,255
    edited November 2017

    Gavin Williamson? Meh.

    Presumably because he knows the Whips haven't got any dirt on himself!
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,849

    Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    A bloody good question.
    Why is RS the vessel into which all tory hopes and dreams are poured? What's so great about him?
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.
  • Morning, all.

    I did tip the next Defence Secretary to be an existing cabinet minister. Odds on the next generation (and Boris) were far too short.

    Big gamble for TMay to appoint him though, not so much on the merits of that appointment but because she now needs a new Chief Whip, a job which Williamson had done effectively. If she screws that appointment up then she greatly increases the chances that she'll be out well before she plans to be - it's as simple as that.

    This also points to a bigger reshuffle than just a linear set of appointments. The new CW ought to be current cabinet too, to give him or her sufficient clout, which means at least three cabinet appointments today.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    I don't think Esther will be chief whip. Tessa has got something else lined up for her...
  • JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    Agree. Make her Chief Secretary and let her face off John McDonnell
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    GIN1138 said:

    JohnO said:

    From PPS (Dave's) to Defence Secretary in 18 months - that's an impressive rise by any accounts: it will also be Williamson's first ever Departmental Ministerial role.

    Nabavi reckoned he was a dud...
    He’s a dud in front of people/crowds.

    He’s a good backroom guy.
    University of bradford,not all bad - or is it ;-)
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    Tory party chair.
  • Deputy chief whip promoted so what for Esther
  • JonathanD said:

    JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    Tory party chair.
    That would be excellent
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518

    JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    Agree. Make her Chief Secretary and let her face off John McDonnell
    LIKE! :+1:
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    I'm guessing that will be one by election the Tories won't hold if Cllr Laing is convicted... ;)
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,763

    Deputy chief whip promoted so what for Esther

    Minister for knees.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    edited November 2017
    JonathanD said:

    JohnO said:

    Making Esther McVey Chief Whip would be a serious misuse of her talents - she should have a visible public role.

    Tory party chair.
    That would be admirable.
  • Tom Newton Dunn‏VERIFIED ACCOUNT @tnewtondunn 1 min1 minute ago

    Breaking: New Defence Secretary is Gavin Williamson - the Chief Whip! Wow.


    Meh, May plays it timid and safe

    What does Rory the tory have to do to get a proper job?
    A bloody good question.
    Perhaps he represents too much of a threat to a weak leader?

    Sorry if I misled anybody on the Tugendhat suggestion, but it was well sourced.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,255
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    So who is deputy whip ?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Perhaps she wanted Rory The Tory for defense Sec?
  • rural_voterrural_voter Posts: 2,038

    HHemmelig said:

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ruth can overdo the vertically challendged puritanical Scottish wifey finger wagging schitck for me - it's all a bit Nicla-esque.

    And if it was that popular - I'd visit my mother more often.

    Worry ye not about Ruth's moralising, it's precisely one skin cell deep.
    It gets her a 15 second slot on national media - but it seems overplayed of late. She'll need other strings to her bow if she's going to rise to the next level.
    She already has them:

    1) End WFA in England and Wales but keep it in Scotland
    2) Build endless new towns (financing and locations not specified)

    Vote winnerzzz
    If true, your second point would be a killer. At the present time nothing is enraging true blue home counties voters more than proposed new towns / garden villages. In east Surrey there are posters opposing the proposals there on virtually every street corner.
    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.
    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.
    Thats because everyone wants to live in the South East. We don't really have a housing problem, we have a regional imbalance problem.
    I agree but the Midlands also has a housing problem. The average house price in Ludlow or Shrewsbury is 10x the average UK income.
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    Ludicrous reshuffle if that's it.
  • Pulpstar said:

    So who is deputy whip ?

    Esther
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    McVey Deputy Chief Whip.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,406
    Isn't that overegging it a bit?
    He can be laid at 28/1... not sure that isn't worth a bet.
  • Williamson now fav on BF for next leader.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Those that burn the brightest often burn out the fastest...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    JonathanD said:

    Ludicrous reshuffle if that's it.

    Not bad if you have 50 quid on Boris surviving to the end of the year :)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    GIN1138 said:

    Perhaps she wanted Rory The Tory for defense Sec?
    She just likes moaning.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633

    Williamson now fav on BF for next leader.

    LOL
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    dr_spyn said:

    McVey Deputy Chief Whip.

    Oh!

    Looks like Tess has chickened out of doing anything substantive. As usual.

    What a waste of space she is!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,081
    edited November 2017
    JonathanD said:

    Ludicrous reshuffle if that's it.

    Holding position in my opinion.

    By the way has anyone seen Guido's list of labour MPs and allegations.

    Lots of serious issues for labour about to hit the headlines
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,255
    Has to be said, that is not a great photo. Makes him look like a deputy funeral undertaker from a small Norfolk town....
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    Didn't that happen on 8th June?
  • Someone messaged this to me as well.

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/926042186361311232
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429

    Has to be said, that is not a great photo. Makes him look like a deputy funeral undertaker from a small Norfolk town....

    It's not quite as bad as David Miliband with the banana but...
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251
    JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    I'm kinda with you on that - and I've backed her up to now.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,518
    dr_spyn said:

    McVey Deputy Chief Whip.

    It’s a foot in the door for her, assuming that’s it for today’s reshuffle.

    She’s the first new face that Theresa thought of for a promotion, which has to stand her in good stead for next time there’s a vacancy somewhere else.
  • Raincliffe Comprehensive then Bradford University.....not posh enough?
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469

    Chameleon said:

    Also, having seen the full spreadsheet, there seems to be a rather high correlation between being considered a potential future leader and being named on the sheet. Considering the timing it seems to me that someone may be trying to get rid of some rivals.

    And for some reason Boris isn't on the list..
    He's on a full page to himself....
  • JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    I’ve been there since the evening of July 13th 2016.

    So this means you’re not going to tell me off if I call Mrs May to go?
  • JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    You do wonder what is still in the pipeline but Esther to deputy whip is a waste of her talent
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295

    JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    I’ve been there since the evening of July 13th 2016.

    So this means you’re not going to tell me off if I call Mrs May to go?
    Shall I just say that this is now a free vote.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587



    I'm in West Surrey. The same things true there. Pressure on roads and traffic really enrages people.

    Surrey is ridiculously over-populated, I agree from my visits there.
    Herefordshire and most of Shropshire are almost empty.
    Powys is empty except for a high population density of sheep.

    Er, I dunno, it's in the eye of the beholder. I'm in Bramley, near Godalming, though shortly moving to Haslemere. The surrounding area is nothing but rolling fields as far as the eye can see. It's very pretty, but honestly you could build on some of it and it'd still look amazingly rural.

    That said, Surrey rural roads are often scarily narrow and twisty, so it's not just an issue of housing but how to get around.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295

    JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    You do wonder what is still in the pipeline but Esther to deputy whip is a waste of her talent
    We'll see...but my guess is that this is all we're going to get.
  • JonathanD said:

    Ludicrous reshuffle if that's it.

    Holding position in my opinion.
    Agree - everyone calling for a wider reshuffle would be denouncing her for an idiot for not waiting if another minister, or two, quits in the next couple of weeks......
  • JohnO said:

    JohnO said:

    I now have pretty well given up on Mrs May.

    I’ve been there since the evening of July 13th 2016.

    So this means you’re not going to tell me off if I call Mrs May to go?
    Shall I just say that this is now a free vote.
    I’m being positive, this will only hasten her departure.
  • GIN1138 said:

    JohnO said:

    From PPS (Dave's) to Defence Secretary in 18 months - that's an impressive rise by any accounts: it will also be Williamson's first ever Departmental Ministerial role.

    Nabavi reckoned he was a dud...
    He’s a dud in front of people/crowds.

    He’s a good backroom guy.
    University of bradford,not all bad - or is it ;-)
    Anyone who survived three years in Little Horton has my respect. Only place I've ever been mugged and robbed.
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469
    Out of curiosity, who's won anything on the Next Cabinet Member to leave betting book?
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