F1: perusing the markets early. Mildly miffed how last week's early bets turned out. I bet on Vettel to DNF (failed), and on, each way, the Red Bulls to win at 15 and 17. But one got a penalty and the other had a DNF in the race.
I think my judgement on their pace was sound, but both had bad luck. However, worth noting Ricciardo's likely to have an engine penalty. I don't think that's absolutely confirmed yet but it does seem nigh on certain. Which is a shame, because 21 to win would otherwise be rather tasty odds.
I can see a Corbyn majority fairly easily. The combination of youthful resentment of inequality, and anger with the Tories at Dogs Dinner Brexit can easily bring the sort of swing needed.
That's already priced in to Labour's current polling.
Who else are Labour going to find to rally to their New Venezuela flag?
It might be that many previous conservative voters , just sit on their hands.
I think it's a mistake to assume that people who voted Leave didn't really mean it, and are now unhappy about Brexit.
They'll be unhappy when the economy crashes and whilst it's them out of work and starving they still see idiots like Redwood on TV saying hard Brexit has been a great success
I'm not expecting an economic crash. I do expect a deal to done which, if it doesn't contain everything I want, will be acceptable.
I feel the same. The idea that Leavers are going to give up on Brexit because we don't get our particular flavour of it is nonsense.
EDIT Actually, I wouldn't put it past North pere et fils.
Yep - and given that the far left would never do a formal deal with the LDs or the SNP, it would be a minority government destined to fall very soon after the first budget was delivered.
I think your view of the far left (to use your term) is too undifferentiated: there are at least three types, and I know quite a few of each.
There's the angry type who shows up a lot on social media - Tories are scum, LibDems are traitors, etc. They would hate a deal with the LibDems. They are however very far and few between in Parliament.
There's the starry-eyed idealist type - generally mild in manner but inflexible in beliefs - Jeremy is the obvious example (I'm another, these days). They make compromises if necessary to achieve the things that matter most to them- thus Jeremy is not insistent on Trident or NATO or the Royal Family since they aren't the issues that drive him (social justice, public services, racial harmony).
And there's the hard-headed pragmatists, who adjust their stances without too many inhibitions to do what's necessary. John McDonnell will in my view turn out to be one of those.
Conclusion: if an election produces a situation where Labour can govern, but only by a deal with the LibDems and SNP, it will happen. Curiously, though, it'll be harder for the Tories to portray it as Corbyn in Sturgeon's or Cable's pocket, partly because Corbyn doesn't really fit the subservient image and partly because the DUP deal has rather blown that argument anyway.
It would make the Tories effectively the only party of opposition though
Mind you, I feel similarly gloomy whenever I contemplate politics at the moment.
These are times for swivel-eyed zealots. I doubt anyone who coalesces around the centre - be it to the left or the right - feels too wonderful at the moment. The UK is diminishing internally and in the eyes of the world. We have the worst government and the worst opposition in living memory, and little indication that things will change for the better any time soon. Time to hunker down. The storm will pass, but it looks like it is going to be blowing for a long while yet.
were dooomed were doomed
sell your children, hide in a cave etc
We'll be fine.long time.
of new one
ironically concerns
but emerges
Yep, are.
But not shielded from Corbynism....
Not even meaningful way to Jezza.
At the moment it would be a Corbyn minority government propped up by the SNP and LDs in all probability if there was an election tomorrow and the Tories would likely win most seats.
Yep - and given that the far left would never do a formal deal with the LDs or the SNP, it would be a minority government destined to fall very soon after the first budget was delivered.
Corbyn would be the weakest PM since WW2 then.
He'd be strong inside his own party, unlike May; but would not have a de facto majority, unlike May - though the SNP would find it politically impossible to vote against a Labour government's budget or do anything that may be seen to help the Tories. That said, also unlike May, I think Corbyn would quite relish being voted down and having to go to the country again. Creative destruction is a very far left kind of thing. Uncertainty in politics breeds uncertainty in the markets and uncertainty in the markets creates opportunities - for hedge funds and politicians.
Even if he did he still may not get a working majority as Wilson failed to in October 1974.
Yep - and given that the far left would never do a formal deal with the LDs or the SNP, it would be a minority government destined to fall very soon after the first budget was delivered.
I think your view of the far left (to use your term) is too undifferentiated: there are at least three types, and I know quite a few of each.
There's the angry type who shows up a lot on social media - Tories are scum, LibDems are traitors, etc. They would hate a deal with the LibDems. They are however very far and few between in Parliament.
There's the starry-eyed idealist type - generally mild in manner but inflexible in beliefs - Jeremy is the obvious example (I'm another, these days). They make compromises if necessary to achieve the things that matter most to them- thus Jeremy is not insistent on Trident or NATO or the Royal Family since they aren't the issues that drive him (social justice, public services, racial harmony).
And there's the hard-headed pragmatists, who adjust their stances without too many inhibitions to do what's necessary. John McDonnell will in my view turn out to be one of those.
Conclusion: if an election produces a situation where Labour can govern, but only by a deal with the LibDems and SNP, it will happen. Curiously, though, it'll be harder for the Tories to portray it as Corbyn in Sturgeon's or Cable's pocket, partly because Corbyn doesn't really fit the subservient image and partly because the DUP deal has rather blown that argument anyway.
I disagree - I think that Corbyn and McDonnell would run a mile from formal deals with either the SNP or the LibDems, the latter especially. However, I agree on pockets - again, especially for the SNP. It would be impossible for them to do anything that might be seen as enabling the Tories. Labour would have them over a barrel.
They are all madder than a box of frogs thrown down a flight of stairs.
I have a teaching conference today ( ) - dis gun be gud
Also not sure if she asked her Asian students given East Asians are the best at maths?
East Asians are also the group that is hardest hit by affirmative action. They have to obtain better scores than Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, in order to go to top universities.
Mr. Richard, we'd all be free and equal if it weren't for the racist white supremacists perpetuating wooden hammerbeams and flying buttresses! Death to the toxic masculinity of Ionic columns!
Edited extra bit: for the record, Ionic columns are my favourite kind. Huzzah for swirling volutes!
F1: perusing the markets early. Mildly miffed how last week's early bets turned out. I bet on Vettel to DNF (failed), and on, each way, the Red Bulls to win at 15 and 17. But one got a penalty and the other had a DNF in the race.
I think my judgement on their pace was sound, but both had bad luck. However, worth noting Ricciardo's likely to have an engine penalty. I don't think that's absolutely confirmed yet but it does seem nigh on certain. Which is a shame, because 21 to win would otherwise be rather tasty odds.
I was just looking through the couple of previous races, and am reminded that last year the Red Bulls qualified ahead of the Ferraris. It’s a highly unusual track because of the altitude of over 7,000’ which does some very weird things to the cars - they run well over 360kph on the straight despite the cars looking like they’re set up for the streets of Monaco.
@PeterMannionMP: Jo Johnson, universities minister, all but saying Chris Heaton-Harris will stop his letter writing and stick to tweeting bad jokes #R4Today
@RobDotHutton: @BBCr4today "Chris Heaton-Harris is able to speak for himself better than I can," Jo Johnson says, in a tone that suggests he wishes he would.
No No you don't understand; he was acting perfectly legitimately for, what was it that PB's collective moment of madness had it yesterday? Academic research.
F1: perusing the markets early. Mildly miffed how last week's early bets turned out. I bet on Vettel to DNF (failed), and on, each way, the Red Bulls to win at 15 and 17. But one got a penalty and the other had a DNF in the race.
I think my judgement on their pace was sound, but both had bad luck. However, worth noting Ricciardo's likely to have an engine penalty. I don't think that's absolutely confirmed yet but it does seem nigh on certain. Which is a shame, because 21 to win would otherwise be rather tasty odds.
The other day we were wondering how often Hamilton won from pole position. Usually, according to the BBC graphs from 2nd September (so you'd need to update them from Italy onwards): http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/41003336
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
Maybe the remainers of south west London are avoiding putting money on it!
Mr. Sandpit, yeah, an article I read the other day said that despite long straights they have huge downforce levels. I am looking mostly at Red Bull and Ferrari. However, I have so many early bet ideas I might end up throwing down a pound on each
Mr. L, thanks for that link. Still a very high percentage (must be about 47%) of non-pole wins. However, we should also remember that unlike every other top driver, Hamilton has had a race-winning (capable, at least) car every single year he's driven. Schumacher, Vettel and Alonso did not have that.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
Indeed Brexit will become the new "status quo" that voters react against. No way will the Tories get electoral benefit from this car crash, and they know it, which is why they look so shell shocked.
I've been saying for a while that the hard Brexit loons infesting the Tory party will literally bring about the end of their party. All the evidence - both direct and implied (the non-release of the government assesment) - points to hard Brexit no deal being an economic catastrophe. Leave voters mainly envisaged something better with their leave vote. When it transpires that it brought about their own destruction- coupled with the reams of leaked expose in the papers about how Tory ministers how appeared to have no clue during the negotiations really did have no clue during the negotiations - the Tories are finished.
It's the splat of hubris and rhetoric against the wall of reality. The Tories have a tendency for delusion - an early polotocal memory was Thatcher and her ministers on TV denying that the Community Charge was causing anyone problems, back to back with reportage of the Poll Tax reducing rate payers to poverty. The same behaviour now with US and disability assessments. And of course Brexit. Where telling the foreigner to go whistle defi Italy delivers for us a better free trade deal than the completely free trade deal we currently have.
In normal circumstances that is an entirely logical assessment. But Jeremy Corbyn is the Labour leader and the far left is rapidly embedding itself to ensure it continues to control the party when Corbyn stands down. This is the Tory firewall.
The difficulty I find with your argument (and that of many of the more rabid PBtories on here) is that what you term the "far left" is now more to the centre than you would like to believe. The pendulum has swung from the right (where you have long considered that was it was the natural place for it to be). Whether it will ever swing back in your direction again as the electorate "regain their collective sanity" as you would probably put it, is looking more and more, due to the increasing fracturedness of the Conservative Party, as becoming extremely unlikely.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
Maybe the remainers of south west London are avoiding putting money on it!
Well the race is at Kempton, which is due to close down.
They are all madder than a box of frogs thrown down a flight of stairs.
I have a teaching conference today ( ) - dis gun be gud
Also not sure if she asked her Asian students given East Asians are the best at maths?
East Asians are also the group that is hardest hit by affirmative action. They have to obtain better scores than Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, in order to go to top universities.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
Universities are going completely bonkers. Mathematics is the basis of science, and nothing can change that.
Also, there’s a huge effort going on in the Western world to get young people - especially young ladies - interested in STEM subjects. Stupid idiots like this completely undermine all those efforts.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
Maybe the remainers of south west London are avoiding putting money on it!
Well the race is at Kempton, which is due to close down.
That’s sad to hear. I once had a contract for a couple of years at an office almost next door along the A316.
Many sneaky afternoons spent at the Tote once the bosses had left work early to spend time in the hospitality with the customers and suppliers.
Yep - and given that the far left would never do a formal deal with the LDs or the SNP, it would be a minority government destined to fall very soon after the first budget was delivered.
I think your view of the far left (to use your term) is too undifferentiated: there are at least three types, and I know quite a few of each.
There's the angry type who shows up a lot on social media - Tories are scum, LibDems are traitors, etc. They would hate a deal with the LibDems. They are however very far and few between in Parliament.
There's the starry-eyed idealist type - generally mild in manner but inflexible in beliefs - Jeremy is the obvious example (I'm another, these days). They make compromises if necessary to achieve the things that matter most to them- thus Jeremy is not insistent on Trident or NATO or the Royal Family since they aren't the issues that drive him (social justice, public services, racial harmony).
And there's the hard-headed pragmatists, who adjust their stances without too many inhibitions to do what's necessary. John McDonnell will in my view turn out to be one of those.
Conclusion: if an election produces a situation where Labour can govern, but only by a deal with the LibDems and SNP, it will happen. Curiously, though, it'll be harder for the Tories to portray it as Corbyn in Sturgeon's or Cable's pocket, partly because Corbyn doesn't really fit the subservient image and partly because the DUP deal has rather blown that argument anyway.
I disagree - I think that Corbyn and McDonnell would run a mile from formal deals with either the SNP or the LibDems, the latter especially. However, I agree on pockets - again, especially for the SNP. It would be impossible for them to do anything that might be seen as enabling the Tories. Labour would have them over a barrel.
SO at least Spurs at the moment are doing well in Europe.I was very impressed with them against Real Madrid .Hopefully after the result against Liverpool , results will improve at Wembley.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Sad and ironic final paragraph about controlling the press, though. Yesterday's article on him had a single line at the end about a crackdown on free speech and human rights. I might've missed it, but didn't see a corresponding comment in today's article.
He has achieved an impressive level of personal power and control in a few years, when I had tgoughboart if the Chinese System now was in part to prevent dominance by one person. The tightening grip of state control is depressing though. The communist party there really is just a new nobility, albeit with a better chance of rising through it.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
Mr. kle4, well... medieval nobility did have plenty of scope for advancement. William Marshal went from being a minor knight to regent of England.
Xi went against the unwritten understanding that there wouldn't be purging/corruption trials against senior figures in the party, in order to prevent internal bloodletting as happened a few decades ago. He's also beefed up the military.
More state control probably won't be enough to derail the economic trend, but it won't help.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Sad to hear that.I think the UK is still a wonderful place to live, and York especially , I feel I am very lucky to have been born here.To me it still feels less divisive than the 1980s , however I realise that can change.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
Were you really offering 30s ???
LOL. A couple of weeks before the vote I was on the No.19 bus and the driver told me to lower my sterling exposure and to rebalance my portfolio in favour of non-UK assets which would act as a hedge against the likely fall in sterling should we Brexit (and would ride the wave should we vote to stay in).
The decent five figure sum I made on the night on Betfair, PP, and William Hill (lowest odds of 5-1) was just icing on the cake.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
Maybe the remainers of south west London are avoiding putting money on it!
Well the race is at Kempton, which is due to close down.
That’s sad to hear. I once had a contract for a couple of years at an office almost next door along the A316.
Many sneaky afternoons spent at the Tote once the bosses had left work early to spend time in the hospitality with the customers and suppliers.
One of my favourite racing memories is seeing Desert Orchid, having decanted R Dunwoody three out in the 1991 King George, then canter riderless, ears pricked, past the stands at Kempton to the most tumultuous roar from the crowd.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
Were you really offering 30s ???
LOL. A couple of weeks before the vote I was on the No.19 bus and the driver told me to lower my sterling exposure and to rebalance my portfolio in favour of non-UK assets which would act as a hedge against the likely fall in sterling should we Brexit (and would ride the wave should we vote to stay in).
The decent five figure sum I made on the night on Betfair, PP, and William Hill (lowest odds of 5-1) was just icing on the cake.
The thought of you on a bus will stay with me for the rest of the day.
I'll assume that the five figures include the two to the right of the decimal place
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
F1: perusing the markets early. Mildly miffed how last week's early bets turned out. I bet on Vettel to DNF (failed), and on, each way, the Red Bulls to win at 15 and 17. But one got a penalty and the other had a DNF in the race.
I think my judgement on their pace was sound, but both had bad luck. However, worth noting Ricciardo's likely to have an engine penalty. I don't think that's absolutely confirmed yet but it does seem nigh on certain. Which is a shame, because 21 to win would otherwise be rather tasty odds.
Morning, Mr.D. Apparently, Ricciardo will not receive the latest upgrade of the Renault engine, either. There's only enough for one per team that they supply, and Verstappen got it.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
I can see a Corbyn majority fairly easily. The combination of youthful resentment of inequality, and anger with the Tories at Dogs Dinner Brexit can easily bring the sort of swing needed.
That's already priced in to Labour's current polling.
Who else are Labour going to find to rally to their New Venezuela flag?
Corbyn and Mcdonnell are not capable of reaching out to build the broader coalition that is needed to win office. It is not in the DNA of radical (indeed revolutionary) socialist politics to do so.
Mr. kle4, well... medieval nobility did have plenty of scope for advancement. William Marshal went from being a minor knight to regent of England.
Xi went against the unwritten understanding that there wouldn't be purging/corruption trials against senior figures in the party, in order to prevent internal bloodletting as happened a few decades ago. He's also beefed up the military.
More state control probably won't be enough to derail the economic trend, but it won't help.
Not a single member of the Politburo under 60... and they've never had a woman on it.
Yep - and given that the far left would never do a formal deal with the LDs or the SNP, it would be a minority government destined to fall very soon after the first budget was delivered.
I think your view of the far left (to use your term) is too undifferentiated: there are at least three types, and I know quite a few of each.
There's the angry type who shows up a lot on social media - Tories are scum, LibDems are traitors, etc. They would hate a deal with the LibDems. They are however very far and few between in Parliament.
There's the starry-eyed idealist type - generally mild in manner but inflexible in beliefs - Jeremy is the obvious example (I'm another, these days). They make compromises if necessary to achieve the things that matter most to them- thus Jeremy is not insistent on Trident or NATO or the Royal Family since they aren't the issues that drive him (social justice, public services, racial harmony).
And there's the hard-headed pragmatists, who adjust their stances without too many inhibitions to do what's necessary. John McDonnell will in my view turn out to be one of those.
Conclusion: if an election produces a situation where Labour can govern, but only by a deal with the LibDems and SNP, it will happen. Curiously, though, it'll be harder for the Tories to portray it as Corbyn in Sturgeon's or Cable's pocket, partly because Corbyn doesn't really fit the subservient image and partly because the DUP deal has rather blown that argument anyway.
I disagree - I think that Corbyn and McDonnell would run a mile from formal deals with either the SNP or the LibDems, the latter especially. However, I agree on pockets - again, especially for the SNP. It would be impossible for them to do anything that might be seen as enabling the Tories. Labour would have them over a barrel.
A temporary coalition deal would arguably be the perfect situation for Labour. They'd have a ready made excuse to ditch, delay or water down some of the party's wilder promises, while getting enough done to placate supporters and prove that the sky won't fall in the moment they walk in No. 10. Say, a two year deal for managing Brexit to a soft landing with limited stuff that the Tories would obviously find themselves unpopular in opposing, like unfreezing public sector pay, NHS funding, etc would put them in a fairly strong position at the subsequent election when all the big promises would be wheeled out again. Then of course you'd need the tax rises, which even don't come close to paying for Corbyn's promises, but that's the bridge you have to cross after winning a majority.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
Thanks - what am I looking at? I can see the chances but where are the odds? Happy to be proven wrong but interested to see how the odds actually moved.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Sad to hear that.I think the UK is still a wonderful place to live, and York especially , I feel I am very lucky to have been born here.To me it still feels less divisive than the 1980s , however I realise that can change.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
I'll try to publish the actual chart for the final 12 hours of Brexit betting later.
I did not start betting at all on the referendum until 0054 on June 24th when Leave was as an 18.7% shot on Betfair. This was just after Newcastle came in.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
Universities are going completely bonkers. Mathematics is the basis of science, and nothing can change that.
Also, there’s a huge effort going on in the Western world to get young people - especially young ladies - interested in STEM subjects. Stupid idiots like this completely undermine all those efforts.
Agreed. Also the article ignores for example the Islamic world's contribution and that of the Chinese.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
I'll try to publish the actual chart for the final 12 hours of Brexit betting later.
I did not start betting at all on the referendum until 0054 on June 24th when Leave was as an 18.7% shot on Betfair. This was just after Newcastle came in.
Looking forward to it, and as mentioned, I put on the hedge through the day and into the night up until around midnight-ish. BF I see only has online details for the past three months.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Sad to hear that.I think the UK is still a wonderful place to live, and York especially , I feel I am very lucky to have been born here.To me it still feels less divisive than the 1980s , however I realise that can change.
Wow that excellent economic news should make quite a splash on the cover of today's Evening Standard.....
Despite Brexit...
Puts on best ScottP impression...but we haven't left yet...
I think in all seriousness it shows how resolute the UK economy is. All the constant negative headlines, all the claims we are going to hell in a hand basket, and still it trundles on at an ok (although not stellar) rate.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
I liked this ... "“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform."
Kind of glossing over the importance of Arabic numerals in mathematics there.
A temporary coalition deal would arguably be the perfect situation for Labour. They'd have a ready made excuse to ditch, delay or water down some of the party's wilder promises, while getting enough done to placate supporters and prove that the sky won't fall in the moment they walk in No. 10. Say, a two year deal for managing Brexit to a soft landing with limited stuff that the Tories would obviously find themselves unpopular in opposing, like unfreezing public sector pay, NHS funding, etc would put them in a fairly strong position at the subsequent election when all the big promises would be wheeled out again. Then of course you'd need the tax rises, which even don't come close to paying for Corbyn's promises, but that's the bridge you have to cross after winning a majority.
I think the problem with that is .... the small parties have learnt (cf the DUP).
The smaller party gets all the blame & none of the credit in a Coalition like that.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
Were you really offering 30s ???
LOL. A couple of weeks before the vote I was on the No.19 bus and the driver told me to lower my sterling exposure and to rebalance my portfolio in favour of non-UK assets which would act as a hedge against the likely fall in sterling should we Brexit (and would ride the wave should we vote to stay in).
The decent five figure sum I made on the night on Betfair, PP, and William Hill (lowest odds of 5-1) was just icing on the cake.
The thought of you on a bus will stay with me for the rest of the day.
I'll assume that the five figures include the two to the right of the decimal place
The bonkers thing about it all was that the markets didn't really blink and paid attention to the ex-UK earnings of FTSE constituents after a mini-bout of the collywobbles that was erased within a week.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
I liked this ... "“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform."
Kind of glossing over the importance of Arabic numerals in mathematics there.
Or the Arabic derived terms 'algebra' or 'algorithms'
(But it was a Welsh mathematician who invented the equals sign!)
Wow that excellent economic news should make quite a splash on the cover of today's Evening Standard.....
Despite Brexit...
Puts on best ScottP impression...but we haven't left yet...
I think in all seriousness it shows how resolute the UK economy is. All the constant negative headlines, all the claims we are going to hell in a hand basket, and still it trundles on at an ok (although not stellar) rate.
Almost like the success of a country is based on the efforts of it's citizens rather than the media vibe and who said what about who at a Brussell's lunch ?
Ed Miliband and Neil Kinnock were both enjoying 12 point leads between elections -and they both lost the following general election. Jeremy Corbyn wins about the same number of seats as Gordon Brown in 2010 which was Labour's second biggest defeat since 1935, and is level pegging wit the Tories and Labour holds a triumphalist rally at Brighton. I see Corbynista tears ahead.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
Thanks - what am I looking at? I can see the chances but where are the odds? Happy to be proven wrong but interested to see how the odds actually moved.
The two numbers are inverse of each other, so they add up to 100%. The x axis shows the movement over time on the night.
The high point for Remain was the 93.5% chance highlighted by Mike in the graph at 22:10, so at that point Leave was a 6.5% chance, or 1 in 15.3 (1/6.5) which is (I think) a Betfair price of 16.3.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Sad to hear that.I think the UK is still a wonderful place to live, and York especially , I feel I am very lucky to have been born here.To me it still feels less divisive than the 1980s , however I realise that can change.
York is indeed lovely and the British people are still the best in the World (despite Brexit). Such a shame that the political class is so brainless (and crap).
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Well you get the latter here in autumn and winter too just the temperature plummets in Canada, though they tend to have warmer summers, especially in Ontario.
Mr. Song, the Indians inventing 0's worthy of mention.
Mr. HYUFD, not true. Leeds was riven right down the middle but I think it was about 50.2% Remain.
Apologies Leeds was 50.2% Remain 49.8% Leave though I don't think that makes a major difference to the point especially when Yorkshire as a whole was strongly Leave.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
Thanks - what am I looking at? I can see the chances but where are the odds? Happy to be proven wrong but interested to see how the odds actually moved.
The two numbers are inverse of each other, so they add up to 100%. The x axis shows the movement over time on the night.
The high point for Remain was the 93.5% chance highlighted by Mike in the graph at 22:10, so at that point Leave was a 6.5% chance, or 1 in 15.3 (1/6.5) which is (I think) a Betfair price of 16.3.
ah I see so these are the odds in percentages. Many thanks.
So must have been dreaming - is that the exchange or the sportsbook or both?
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Friend of mine moved last year from Dubai to Canada - talk about going from one extreme to the other. He likes it there, even if he did have to buy his missus a completely new wardrobe!
A temporary coalition deal would arguably be the perfect situation for Labour. They'd have a ready made excuse to ditch, delay or water down some of the party's wilder promises, while getting enough done to placate supporters and prove that the sky won't fall in the moment they walk in No. 10. Say, a two year deal for managing Brexit to a soft landing with limited stuff that the Tories would obviously find themselves unpopular in opposing, like unfreezing public sector pay, NHS funding, etc would put them in a fairly strong position at the subsequent election when all the big promises would be wheeled out again. Then of course you'd need the tax rises, which even don't come close to paying for Corbyn's promises, but that's the bridge you have to cross after winning a majority.
I think the problem with that is .... the small parties have learnt (cf the DUP).
The smaller party gets all the blame & none of the credit in a Coalition like that.
I’d be amazed if either big party could get the LD’s within a mile of a coalition, after the disaster that resulted from the last one. Whereas the Lib/Lab pact ...... C&S and a joint committee on legislation.....of the 70’s, even though it had it’s problems had a better outcome for the Liberals.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Friend of mine moved last year from Dubai to Canada - talk about going from one extreme to the other. He likes it there, even if he did have to buy his missus a completely new wardrobe!
The wine’s cheaper and probably better, pound for pound, too.
Anybody interested in a small punt on the horses could do a lot worse than take an interest in the 5.50 at Kempton, where Brexitmeansbrexit appears to have potential, and is good value at 16/1.
Seriously.
Cheers.
You do realise its race/finishing place will be seen as an allegory for Brexit.
Oh there are endless opportunities for predictable jokes, but as it happens it does have a chance. It shouldn't be 16/1 anyway. (Which gives it a better chance than us of getting a deal with the EU....chortle!)
16/1 was about what Leave reached on Betfair on the evening of the Referendum.
30s and better, at some points
It never got to 30, was around 16.5 from memory at 22:30. Mike posted a graph of the odds over time on here a couple of weeks later.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Are you sure? I remember, hazily seeing 30s around midnight on BF but it could just have been the adrenalin and excitement of the evening.
Thanks - what am I looking at? I can see the chances but where are the odds? Happy to be proven wrong but interested to see how the odds actually moved.
The two numbers are inverse of each other, so they add up to 100%. The x axis shows the movement over time on the night.
The high point for Remain was the 93.5% chance highlighted by Mike in the graph at 22:10, so at that point Leave was a 6.5% chance, or 1 in 15.3 (1/6.5) which is (I think) a Betfair price of 16.3.
ah I see so these are the odds in percentages. Many thanks.
So must have been dreaming - is that the exchange or the sportsbook or both?
That’s the exchange price graph, which may be the one Mike alluded to upthread.
There was a discussion as to who got the best odds of the night, right at that short peak. Several here got more than 12 IIRC.
The max price would have been 15.3 (not 16.3 as I said above).
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Friend of mine moved last year from Dubai to Canada - talk about going from one extreme to the other. He likes it there, even if he did have to buy his missus a completely new wardrobe!
The wine’s cheaper and probably better, pound for pound, too.
Canadian Ice Wine, now that is some weird stuff....
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
Sad to hear that.I think the UK is still a wonderful place to live, and York especially , I feel I am very lucky to have been born here.To me it still feels less divisive than the 1980s , however I realise that can change.
Much appreciated as I have not read that before.Surprised it was not in the local York Press or local TV.York nowadays relies very much on tourists , Universities and the public sector , in contrast to the 1980s when manufacturing such as Rowntrees , Terry's were big employers.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
I liked this ... "“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform."
Kind of glossing over the importance of Arabic numerals in mathematics there.
Whilst the Arabs before the 1100's made contributions to astronomy and maths, after 1100 or so the they had to deal with Mongols from the east and Crusades from the west. One of the earliest inventors of the scientific method lived in Basra
In the west things had been more or less "dead" scientifically from about 500AD as well and the only significant invention in the west until about 1400 was an improved horse collar.
Politics is truly broken an exemplified by idiots like O’Mara and Heaton-Harris. The quality of our political class declines every single day. This allied with the crazy calamity of Brexit means I seriously have to re-think whether the UK is the right place for me and my family. I am lucky enough to have options - sadly most people don’t.
It was most people who voted for Brexit and 40% of people who voted for Corbyn (on a 72% and 67% turnout). Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
If there was no Mrs Murali_s, I would move to Canada in a heartbeat. Sadly she hates the cold (and dark).
Friend of mine moved last year from Dubai to Canada - talk about going from one extreme to the other. He likes it there, even if he did have to buy his missus a completely new wardrobe!
The wine’s cheaper and probably better, pound for pound, too.
Canadian Ice Wine, now that is some weird stuff....
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
I liked this ... "“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform."
Kind of glossing over the importance of Arabic numerals in mathematics there.
Whilst the Arabs before the 1100's made contributions to astronomy and maths, after 1100 or so the they had to deal with Mongols from the east and Crusades from the west. One of the earliest inventors of the scientific method lived in Basra
In the west things had been more or less "dead" scientifically from about 500AD as well and the only significant invention in the west until about 1400 was an improved horse collar.
Aristocracy too busy bashing each other about in pursuit of glory. There were some advances in architecture, though. And armour.
Mr. City, weaker pound is good for tourism, though.
Mrs C, is that a reference to the plough that enabled better cultivation? If so, it opened up swathes of Germany to agriculture and had a massive impact.
Also, western medieval blades were superior to Japanese ones, the architecture of cathedrals (such as York Minster) are magnificent, and the first, I believe, recorded use of cannon was by Edward III.
I'm not one of those mad revisionists who think the 'Dark Ages' were the equal of Rome, but I also don't subscribe to the view that everything was stagnant for a thousand years.
Mind you, I feel similarly gloomy whenever I contemplate politics at the moment.
These are times for swivel-eyed zealots. I doubt anyone who coalesces around the centre - be it to the left or the right - feels too wonderful at the moment. The UK is diminishing internally and in the eyes of the world. We have the worst government and the worst opposition in living memory, and little indication that things will change for the better any time soon. Time to hunker down. The storm will pass, but it looks like it is going to be blowing for a long while yet.
Until Britain accepts that it has to live within its means the storm will not pass.
And neither the supporters of the Osborne rentier economy nor the Corbyn statist economy will ever accept that.
I agree. The optimistic version of that realisation would be a real cultural shift towards wealth creation. A new consensus over national identity is the other minor item on the agenda.
I see that Jared O'Mara is concerned about the plight of the Palestinians, so much so that he submitted 3 written questions on Israel, and Palestine. Seems an odd cause given the huge loss of life in Syria and the upheaval it has caused. Does the guy suffer from myopia?
Imagine my surprise to discover that 3 written questions suddenly appeared on disabilities yesterday.
Mr. City, weaker pound is good for tourism, though.
Mrs C, is that a reference to the plough that enabled better cultivation? If so, it opened up swathes of Germany to agriculture and had a massive impact.
Also, western medieval blades were superior to Japanese ones, the architecture of cathedrals (such as York Minster) are magnificent, and the first, I believe, recorded use of cannon was by Edward III.
I'm not one of those mad revisionists who think the 'Dark Ages' were the equal of Rome, but I also don't subscribe to the view that everything was stagnant for a thousand years.
Didn’t the Chinese use cannon before then? Some half-remembered titbit, but my gym appointment calls.
A temporary coalition deal would arguably be the perfect situation for Labour. They'd have a ready made excuse to ditch, delay or water down some of the party's wilder promises, while getting enough done to placate supporters and prove that the sky won't fall in the moment they walk in No. 10. Say, a two year deal for managing Brexit to a soft landing with limited stuff that the Tories would obviously find themselves unpopular in opposing, like unfreezing public sector pay, NHS funding, etc would put them in a fairly strong position at the subsequent election when all the big promises would be wheeled out again. Then of course you'd need the tax rises, which even don't come close to paying for Corbyn's promises, but that's the bridge you have to cross after winning a majority.
I think the problem with that is .... the small parties have learnt (cf the DUP).
The smaller party gets all the blame & none of the credit in a Coalition like that.
That was true in the coalition, obviously - but if the stated purpose was to implement a soft Brexit, neither the SNP or Lib Dems could really turn it down - and there wouldn't be much blame to go around. The Lib Dems' big mistake was to totally misread the composition of their support - a large number of whom were economically similar or to the left of Labour but had fallen out with the party over the years. They got blamed because the act of going into coalition was for many a greater evil than any possible achievement because it enabled Osborne to implement his version of austerity.
Having just returned from a wonderful Mediterranean cruise and enjoyed 14 days away from Brexit it was interesting that as we docked in the early hours of the morning in Barcelona the container port was busy loading/unloading three container ships from their large container port. As we were transferred from the port to the airport for our return flight to Heathrow we passed a fire station with a large banner on the front with the wording 'Democracia'.
The airport was a hive of activity and having visited Barcelona several times previously it is obvious Catalonia is very important to Spain and the actions of the Spanish Government seem so inept in provoking a situation that even the firefighters are openly demonstrating their support for democracy. I fear this will not have a happy ending.
It was interesting that the Captain of our BA flight home felt it necessary to address the passengers by apologizing for the 'UK going through a mid life crisis' and that everyone from wherever they have come from are very welcome in the UK. He then went on to warn us that Heathrow was experiencing landing difficulties due to adverse weather but he hoped to be on time.
As it turned out it was quite the worse landing experience I have ever had with the plane being buffeted all the way down until, just as the wheels were about to hit the runaway, he powered away aborting the landing. He apologized but said that he had been hit by a strong gust and had had no choice. For the next twenty minutes we rocked and rolled until finally hitting the runway hard and safely. Just shows the skills and the huge responsibility that pilots have and how well trained they are to cope with the unexpected
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I think my judgement on their pace was sound, but both had bad luck. However, worth noting Ricciardo's likely to have an engine penalty. I don't think that's absolutely confirmed yet but it does seem nigh on certain. Which is a shame, because 21 to win would otherwise be rather tasty odds.
EDIT Actually, I wouldn't put it past North pere et fils.
As an aside, and perhaps unsurprisingly, the race this weekend, and qualifying, is expected to be dry throughout.
I liked this ... " many people have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms ...."
Edited extra bit: for the record, Ionic columns are my favourite kind. Huzzah for swirling volutes!
Nothing to worry about, move on.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/41003336
Mr. L, thanks for that link. Still a very high percentage (must be about 47%) of non-pole wins. However, we should also remember that unlike every other top driver, Hamilton has had a race-winning (capable, at least) car every single year he's driven. Schumacher, Vettel and Alonso did not have that.
Also, there’s a huge effort going on in the Western world to get young people - especially young ladies - interested in STEM subjects. Stupid idiots like this completely undermine all those efforts.
Many sneaky afternoons spent at the Tote once the bosses had left work early to spend time in the hospitality with the customers and suppliers.
Thanks to @AndyJS and his awesome spreadsheet I think most people on here had a good night.
Xi went against the unwritten understanding that there wouldn't be purging/corruption trials against senior figures in the party, in order to prevent internal bloodletting as happened a few decades ago. He's also beefed up the military.
More state control probably won't be enough to derail the economic trend, but it won't help.
The decent five figure sum I made on the night on Betfair, PP, and William Hill (lowest odds of 5-1) was just icing on the cake.
But I doubt this translates into votes for radical socialism.
I'll assume that the five figures include the two to the right of the decimal place
Apparently, Ricciardo will not receive the latest upgrade of the Renault engine, either. There's only enough for one per team that they supply, and Verstappen got it.
Though if you want a country pretty immune from populism and reasonably prosperous and stable at the moment, Canada is your best bet and it has a telegenic Liberal PM too if you like that sort of thing.
Not a single member of the Politburo under 60... and they've never had a woman on it.
Edited extra bit: btw, do you happen to know if that new engine means Verstappen will incur a penalty?
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/leeds-set-to-lose-out-on-6-4bn-in-a-hard-brexit-1-8821388
I did not start betting at all on the referendum until 0054 on June 24th when Leave was as an 18.7% shot on Betfair. This was just after Newcastle came in.
Also the article ignores for example the Islamic world's contribution and that of the Chinese.
http://www.storyofmathematics.com/islamic.html
http://www.storyofmathematics.com/chinese.html
IIRC the most recent negative quarter for that was 2016q1.
Now who was Chancellor then
I think in all seriousness it shows how resolute the UK economy is. All the constant negative headlines, all the claims we are going to hell in a hand basket, and still it trundles on at an ok (although not stellar) rate.
Mr. HYUFD, not true. Leeds was riven right down the middle but I think it was about 50.2% Remain.
Kind of glossing over the importance of Arabic numerals in mathematics there.
The smaller party gets all the blame & none of the credit in a Coalition like that.
The bonkers thing about it all was that the markets didn't really blink and paid attention to the ex-UK earnings of FTSE constituents after a mini-bout of the collywobbles that was erased within a week.
(But it was a Welsh mathematician who invented the equals sign!)
Jeremy Corbyn wins about the same number of seats as Gordon Brown in 2010 which was Labour's second biggest defeat since 1935, and is level pegging wit the Tories and Labour holds a triumphalist rally at Brighton.
I see Corbynista tears ahead.
The high point for Remain was the 93.5% chance highlighted by Mike in the graph at 22:10, so at that point Leave was a 6.5% chance, or 1 in 15.3 (1/6.5) which is (I think) a Betfair price of 16.3.
F1: a problem with having several (well, eight) early betting ideas is trying to decide what to back. This is consuming more time than I anticipated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arabic_star_names
So must have been dreaming - is that the exchange or the sportsbook or both?
Whereas the Lib/Lab pact ...... C&S and a joint committee on legislation.....of the 70’s, even though it had it’s problems had a better outcome for the Liberals.
There was a discussion as to who got the best odds of the night, right at that short peak. Several here got more than 12 IIRC.
The max price would have been 15.3 (not 16.3 as I said above).
"That ‘journey’ of his had quite a few stops along the way…"
In the west things had been more or less "dead" scientifically from about 500AD as well and the only significant invention in the west until about 1400 was an improved horse collar.
Mrs C, is that a reference to the plough that enabled better cultivation? If so, it opened up swathes of Germany to agriculture and had a massive impact.
Also, western medieval blades were superior to Japanese ones, the architecture of cathedrals (such as York Minster) are magnificent, and the first, I believe, recorded use of cannon was by Edward III.
I'm not one of those mad revisionists who think the 'Dark Ages' were the equal of Rome, but I also don't subscribe to the view that everything was stagnant for a thousand years.
Imagine my surprise to discover that 3 written questions suddenly appeared on disabilities yesterday.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=25636&pop=1#n4
The airport was a hive of activity and having visited Barcelona several times previously it is obvious Catalonia is very important to Spain and the actions of the Spanish Government seem so inept in provoking a situation that even the firefighters are openly demonstrating their support for democracy. I fear this will not have a happy ending.
It was interesting that the Captain of our BA flight home felt it necessary to address the passengers by apologizing for the 'UK going through a mid life crisis' and that everyone from wherever they have come from are very welcome in the UK. He then went on to warn us that Heathrow was experiencing landing difficulties due to adverse weather but he hoped to be on time.
As it turned out it was quite the worse landing experience I have ever had with the plane being buffeted all the way down until, just as the wheels were about to hit the runaway, he powered away aborting the landing. He apologized but said that he had been hit by a strong gust and had had no choice. For the next twenty minutes we rocked and rolled until finally hitting the runway hard and safely. Just shows the skills and the huge responsibility that pilots have and how well trained they are to cope with the unexpected