Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
Denmark famously stripped refugees of their valuable items to pay for their housing. A Corbyn government wouldn't even consider that costs for things have to come from somewhere. Venezuela is the best example. It would start off with wonderful services and grants to everyone. It would end with financial crisis and the hardline McDonnells pushing aside the softer Corbyns to defend the revolution.
Watch out enemies of the State
"In Venezuela, prisoners say abuse is so bad they are forced to eat pasta mixed with excrement"
I did think the DUP had significant parallels with the US Republicans. Much of what they offer wouldn't hold much appeal in many other parts of the Western world.
I remember there was quite a bit of upset among some of the more rabid Atlanticists that Cameron's Conservatives were more closer to the Democrats that the Republicans - or at least there was a perception among some that they were. But that Conservative Party delivered them their only majority in twenty five years. Meanwhile May's Conservative Party which she proclaimed as being the sister Party to the Republicans lost that majority.
American Conservatives apparently love Nigel Farage - says it all, really.
Theresa May's Conservatives won 2.3 million votes more than David Cameron's. The change in seats was due to Jeremy Corbyn being a better politician at uniting the left than Gordon Brown or Ed Miliband.
Neither result has much to do with the degree of collegiality with the Republicans.
In FPTP vote share does not matter as much as seat share. And on that note, she lost the only majority the Tories have won in a generation. Going on about vote share is a bit like Corbynistas insisting they 'won' the GE.
My point in regard to the Republicans is that only a moderate, One Nation Conservatism has been able to win GEs. May moving to the right - signalled by the Hard Brexit rhetoric and aligning with the Republicans - does not win GEs in this country.
It is not like the Corbynista claim because Corbyn lost the election on vote share, by about 700,000 votes. Seats matter the most in First Past the Post because it is a contest between two parties, but the number of votes shows the strength of each individual party in that contest.
It is like the Corbynista claim because it essentially misses the point - just like Corbynistas don't get that in order to win you need to get to 326 seats, Mayites don't understand that no about references to vote share will change the fact that the Conservatives went backwards at this GE and her vote share will be of no comfort as she is forced to sort out some kind of arrangement with the DUP.
Vote share isn't what elections are fought on, it's seat share. Corbyn losing the election on vote share doesn't matter as much as seat share. The strength of individual party is measured on seat share, not on vote share. No party strategist measuring their strength off the back of votes in places they don't need as opposed to seat gains.
I did think the DUP had significant parallels with the US Republicans. Much of what they offer wouldn't hold much appeal in many other parts of the Western world.
I remember there was quite a bit of upset among some of the more rabid Atlanticists that Cameron's Conservatives were more closer to the Democrats that the Republicans - or at least there was a perception among some that they were. But that Conservative Party delivered them their only majority in twenty five years. Meanwhile May's Conservative Party which she proclaimed as being the sister Party to the Republicans lost that majority.
American Conservatives apparently love Nigel Farage - says it all, really.
Theresa May's Conservatives won 2.3 million votes more than David Cameron's. The change in seats was due to Jeremy Corbyn being a better politician at uniting the left than Gordon Brown or Ed Miliband.
Neither result has much to do with the degree of collegiality with the Republicans.
In FPTP vote share does not matter as much as seat share. And on that note, she lost the only majority the Tories have won in a generation. Going on about vote share is a bit like Corbynistas insisting they 'won' the GE.
My point in regard to the Republicans is that only a moderate, One Nation Conservatism has been able to win GEs. May moving to the right - signalled by the Hard Brexit rhetoric and aligning with the Republicans - does not win GEs in this country.
It is not like the Corbynista claim because Corbyn lost the election on vote share, by about 700,000 votes. Seats matter the most in First Past the Post because it is a contest between two parties, but the number of votes shows the strength of each individual party in that contest.
It is like the Corbynista claim because it essentially misses the point - just like Corbynistas don't get that in order to win you need to get to 326 seats.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
It is like the Corbynista claim because it essentially misses the point - just like Corbynistas don't get that in order to win you need to get to 326 seats, Mayites don't understand that no about references to vote share will change the fact that the Conservatives went backwards at this GE and her vote share will be of no comfort as she is forced to sort out some kind of arrangement with the DUP.
Vote share isn't what elections are fought on, it's seat share. Corbyn losing the election on vote share doesn't matter as much as seat share. The strength of individual party is measured on seat share, not on vote share. No party strategist measuring their strength off the back of votes in places they don't need as opposed to seat gains.
The Conservatives did not build up votes in places they don't need. They got more votes in most of the the marginal constituencies than they did in 2015. It is just Labour also got a lot more. The story of the election is not May doing worse than her predecessors, but Corbyn doing so much better than his. Of course those with an EU axe to grind do not want to acknowledge this.
I see Ed Sheeran is playing tonight....nearly a year to the day when I was in a pretty much deserted small bar watching the England vs Iceland match in the Florentine hills with a mate...the bloke sitting in front of me with his girlfriend had dropped 20 Euros...I tapped him on the shoulder and he thankfully took the money back...we watched the match, exchanged drinks, commentaries and insults, digs at Brexit (just after that fateful vote) as the England team lost...the barman told me after he had left that he was Ed Sheeran....a very assuming, humble and easygoing guy...
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
The rest of the world has moved on....
The times are a changin Mortimer..they really are...neo liberal capitalism is well and truly kefuckered...leading to inequality and huge social injustice....and I really do believe the Tories will be left behind as the world moves on....
The next arguments will be about universal income, equality and human rights as advanced economies rely more on automation...here Corbyn too is well and truly behind the curve too
Indeed. It's why we need to remove ourselves from supranational blocs like the EU.
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
Denmark, is one of the most wonderfully free market nations of the whole would. It has no minimum wage, and is the easiest nation in the EU for employers to get rid of worker they do not want. They even abolished their 'telicomes regulator' relising that nothing was better than an totally unregulated telicomes market. if the UK lowed the excessive regulation of the child care industry to the level of Denmark, parents would be able to save a fortune. Probably the most important area is education where 40% of danish schools children go to Free Schools.
Denmark does have higher overall taxes than the UK, but even hear this is in part because Denmark normally has a lower deficit than the UK. On Taxes Denmark also has a relatively (for EU standards) low Corporation tax and instead has a high VAT so the opposite of what most Corbinistas want.
I am a border line Anarco-Capitalist, hence by Avatar, but frankly a strongly Neo-Liberal Denmark type situation is a good second to me.
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
I did think the DUP had significant parallels with the US Republicans. Much of what they offer wouldn't hold much appeal in many other parts of the Western world.
I remember there was quite a bit of upset among some of the more rabid Atlanticists that Cameron's Conservatives were more closer to the Democrats that the Republicans - or at least there was a perception among some that they were. But that Conservative Party delivered them their only majority in twenty five years. Meanwhile May's Conservative Party which she proclaimed as being the sister Party to the Republicans lost that majority.
American Conservatives apparently love Nigel Farage - says it all, really.
Theresa May's Conservatives won 2.3 million votes more than David Cameron's. The change in seats was due to Jeremy Corbyn being a better politician at uniting the left than Gordon Brown or Ed Miliband.
Neither result has much to do with the degree of collegiality with the Republicans.
In FPTP vote share does not matter as much as seat share. And on that note, she lost the only majority the Tories have won in a generation. Going on about vote share is a bit like Corbynistas insisting they 'won' the GE.
My point in regard to the Republicans is that only a moderate, One Natiepon Conservatism has been able to win GEs. May moving to the right - signalled by the Hard Brexit rhetoric and aligning with the Republicans - does not win GEs in this country.
It is not like the Corbynista claim because Corbyn lost the election on vote share, by about 700,000 votes. Seats matter the most in First Past the Post because it is a contest between two parties, but the number of votes shows the strength of each individual party in that contest.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
@Pulpstar - just wondering why you compare corp tax to income tax? You realise that it is levied on corporate profits before they're withdrawn as dividends (on which personal dividend taxation is levied on) right?
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
The rest of the world has moved on....
The times are a changin Mortimer..they really are...neo liberal capitalism is well and truly kefuckered...leading to inequality and huge social injustice....and I really do believe the Tories will be left behind as the world moves on....
The next arguments will be about universal income, equality and human rights as advanced economies rely more on automation...here Corbyn too is well and truly behind the curve too
Indeed. It's why we need to remove ourselves from supranational blocs like the EU.
That's right comrade....Rule Britannia and all that...let's go and get the colonies back....
Landing the first stage might be iffy due to the weather.
Awesome, they can even launch in the fog now!
Thank God that people like Elon Musk exist.
That was stunning. Doesn't look like the weather caused any issues. I could watch those vertical landings all day.
Same here. This flight was the first to use new titanium grid fins (the strange waffle-iron type things at the top that help control its descent). A shame, as the old aluminium ones with an ablative covering could produce much better flaming theatrics.
So SpaceX have just done two launches in two days, with two landings. One of the first stages had flown before.
@Pulpstar - just wondering why you compare corp tax to income tax? You realise that it is levied on corporate profits before they're withdrawn as dividends, right?
Yes I know this. Dividends might not necessarily be under UK tax restriction though if the ultimate shareholders are outwith the UK. Also dividends might not be paid if the company is pursuing growth. So the dividend tax income isn't guaranteed.
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
Landing the first stage might be iffy due to the weather.
Awesome, they can even launch in the fog now!
Thank God that people like Elon Musk exist.
That was stunning. Doesn't look like the weather caused any issues. I could watch those vertical landings all day.
It took a few not not just believe they were playing a tape backwards!
If this works for Spacex as planned they can save 80-90% of the launch cost compared to where we were only half a decade ago.
Not that much yet. The second stage and the fairings are not yet reusable. The fairings alone apparently cost $6 million. They're attempting to land fairings (apparently on a 'bouncy castle' at sea), and they're talking about recovering the second stage. AIUI if they manage both of those they'll have cracked those sorts of savings - though the cost figures are currently mostly educated guesswork.
But even without that, they've potentially massively reduced the cost of getting into orbit.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
The rest of the world has moved on....
The times are a changin Mortimer..they really are...neo liberal capitalism is well and truly kefuckered...leading to inequality and huge social injustice....and I really do believe the Tories will be left behind as the world moves on....
The next arguments will be about universal income, equality and human rights as advanced economies rely more on automation...here Corbyn too is well and truly behind the curve too
Indeed. It's why we need to remove ourselves from supranational blocs like the EU.
That's right comrade....Rule Britannia and all that...let's go and get the colonies back....
Landing the first stage might be iffy due to the weather.
Awesome, they can even launch in the fog now!
Thank God that people like Elon Musk exist.
That was stunning. Doesn't look like the weather caused any issues. I could watch those vertical landings all day.
Same here. This flight was the first to use new titanium grid fins (the strange waffle-iron type things at the top that help control its descent). A shame, as the old aluminium ones with an ablative covering could produce much better flaming theatrics.
So SpaceX have just done two launches in two days, with two landings. One of the first stages had flown before.
They're getting there.
The telemetry wasn't up but that looked like a much less energetic descent to me than the Florida one on Friday where the 1st stage reached 8,500 km/hr
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Singapore was far worse, as was the Fall of Tobruk.
Argentina invading the Falklands must rank as a gross strategic blunder.
Saratoga, Yorktown, Singapore, Suez.
Each changed the balance of power in the world, against Britain's favour.
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
The difference is that Margaret Thatcher put what she believed in the manifesto. Corbyn and McDonnell put a deceptively moderate front on display. Diane Abbott is a case in point. They realised the public did like approve of her as home secretary, so they replaced her, until the election, when they put her back in her old position gain. The comments about Trident at Glastonbury show another deception in the manifesto.
@Pulpstar - just wondering why you compare corp tax to income tax? You realise that it is levied on corporate profits before they're withdrawn as dividends, right?
Yes I know this. Dividends might not necessarily be under UK tax restriction though if the ultimate shareholders are outwith the UK. Also dividends might not be paid if the company is pursuing growth. So the dividend tax income isn't guaranteed.
Discouraging foreign capital investment in companies and growth of domestic companies seems like pretty short term economic strategy to me...
I don't withdraw all the profit from my company - it has enabled me to grow my company to the state that employs others. Surely a good thing? Raising corp tax will discourage further growth...
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
Denmark, is one of the most wonderfully free market nations of the whole would. It has no minimum wage, and is the easiest nation in the EU for employers to get rid of worker they do not want. They even abolished their 'telicomes regulator' relising that nothing was better than an totally unregulated telicomes market. if the UK lowed the excessive regulation of the child care industry to the level of Denmark, parents would be able to save a fortune. Probably the most important area is education where 40% of danish schools children go to Free Schools.
Denmark does have higher overall taxes than the UK, but even hear this is in part because Denmark normally has a lower deficit than the UK. On Taxes Denmark also has a relatively (for EU standards) low Corporation tax and instead has a high VAT so the opposite of what most Corbinistas want.
I am a border line Anarco-Capitalist, hence by Avatar, but frankly a strongly Neo-Liberal Denmark type situation is a good second to me.
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Now that I live here I get v annoyed at the rubbish written about Denmark as some socialist paradise - Danes work through a highly devolved system with strong communitarian roots - they don't like or want overmighty government. They also are willing to defend their wlfare state by reserving large parts of it to Danish citizens only - it's a much misunderstood country in the Uk
He should be giving an update to that talk soon, about how they'll be able to afford the development and operation of the new Big F*****g Rocket.
Though in many ways I actually prefer Bezos's Blue Origin over SpaceX.
Launching their own satellites is the plan isn't it ? The market/profits for that are massive, and the bottleneck is launch vehicles...
They can probably service their proposed satellite constellations very well with the F9 and F9 Heavy. I'd think a BFR would carry too many into orbit for them to reach their correct orbits from the launch's insertion trajectory.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
You are happy to make a pact with a party that has known links to the UDA?
It seems there is no price too high for some Tories.
If Labour proposed a similar pact to get into office, you'd be cheering them to the rafters.
Nope. I think all the NI parties should be avoided as the sectarian nasties they are.
Aside from being inaccurate, I don't believe you.
Part of me would like to see the DUP do a volte-face and support a Corbyn-led government, just for the entertainment value of seeing you trying to turn on a pin.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Singapore was far worse, as was the Fall of Tobruk.
Argentina invading the Falklands must rank as a gross strategic blunder.
Saratoga, Yorktown, Singapore, Suez.
Each changed the balance of power in the world, against Britain's favour.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Singapore was far worse, as was the Fall of Tobruk.
Argentina invading the Falklands must rank as a gross strategic blunder.
Saratoga, Yorktown, Singapore, Suez.
Each changed the balance of power in the world, against Britain's favour.
Still, there's always Agincourt, Trafalgar, Waterloo and El-Alamein in our favour.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
Denmark, is one of the most wonderfully free market nations of the whole would. It has no minimum wage, and is the easiest nation in the EU for employers to get rid of worker they do not want. They even abolished their 'telicomes regulator' relising that nothing was better than an totally unregulated telicomes market. if the UK lowed the excessive regulation of the child care industry to the level of Denmark, parents would be able to save a fortune. Probably the most important area is education where 40% of danish schools children go to Free Schools.
Denmark does have higher overall taxes than the UK, but even hear this is in part because Denmark normally has a lower deficit than the UK. On Taxes Denmark also has a relatively (for EU standards) low Corporation tax and instead has a high VAT so the opposite of what most Corbinistas want.
I am a border line Anarco-Capitalist, hence by Avatar, but frankly a strongly Neo-Liberal Denmark type situation is a good second to me.
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Now that I live here I get v annoyed at the rubbish written about Denmark as some socialist paradise - Danes work through a highly devolved system with strong communitarian roots - they don't like or want overmighty government. They also are willing to defend their wlfare state by reserving large parts of it to Danish citizens only - it's a much misunderstood country in the Uk
I have some very good memory's of a visit and shot romance in Copenhagen about 10 years ago, hope its still just as nice there.
I think that a lot of people loot at the overall tax as a % of GDP and make inaccurate assumptions. There is a huge difference between the government taking a lot of tax, but then given it back to people to spend on there own priority, getting the best value they can on all they chose to buy. and the government spending the money itself, employing a lot of people to empower politicians and bureaucrats, on what they think 'the People' should want.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Again, how long did the Germans hold onto the Bulge?
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Again, how long did the Germans hold onto the Bulge?
about a month, but for a period they did regain the initiative.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What he did with power is another point entirely.
Next minute we'll be hearing a comparison between Jez's Glastonbury gig and the Nuremberg Rallies ...
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
The rest of the world has moved on....
The times are a changin Mortimer..they really are...neo liberal capitalism is well and truly kefuckered...leading to inequality and huge social injustice....and I really do believe the Tories will be left behind as the world moves on....
The next arguments will be about universal income, equality and human rights as advanced economies rely more on automation...here Corbyn too is well and truly behind the curve too
Indeed. It's why we need to remove ourselves from supranational blocs like the EU.
That's right comrade....Rule Britannia and all that...let's go and get the colonies back....
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Again, how long did the Germans hold onto the Bulge?
about a month, but for a period they did regain the initiative.
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
Denmark, is one of the most wonderfully free market nations of the whole would. It has no minimum wage, and is the easiest nation in the EU for employers to get rid of worker they do not want. They even abolished their 'telicomes regulator' relising that nothing was better than an totally unregulated telicomes market. if the UK lowed the excessive regulation of the child care industry to the level of Denmark, parents would be able to save a fortune. Probably the most important area is education where 40% of danish schools children go to Free Schools.
Denmark does have higher overall taxes than the UK, but even hear this is in part because Denmark normally has a lower deficit than the UK. On Taxes Denmark also has a relatively (for EU standards) low Corporation tax and instead has a high VAT so the opposite of what most Corbinistas want.
I am a border line Anarco-Capitalist, hence by Avatar, but frankly a strongly Neo-Liberal Denmark type situation is a good second to me.
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Now that I live here I get v annoyed at the rubbish written about Denmark as some socialist paradise - Danes work through a highly devolved system with strong communitarian roots - they don't like or want overmighty government. They also are willing to defend their wlfare state by reserving large parts of it to Danish citizens only - it's a much misunderstood country in the Uk
I have some very good memory's of a visit and shot romance in Copenhagen about 10 years ago, hope its still just as nice there.
I think that a lot of people loot at the overall tax as a % of GDP and make inaccurate assumptions. There is a huge difference between the government taking a lot of tax, but then given it back to people to spend on there own priority, getting the best value they can on all they chose to buy. and the government spending the money itself, employing a lot of people to empower politicians and bureaucrats, on what they think 'the People' should want.
I was in Copenhagen last year, and it is as lovely as ever.
Scandinavian politics has become less Socialist over the last decade or so, but remains far more socially progressive than the Tories are here, and is more in tune though not identical to Corbynism.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
If money isn't an issue, why did you abandon your In Laws in Italy, for tax reasons?
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Again, how long did the Germans hold onto the Bulge?
about a month, but for a period they did regain the initiative.
We were talking strategic not tactical.
You said that the Germans were on the backdoor after Stalingrad, I cited 3 examples where they were not on the backdoor. arguably the 3rd battle for Kharkov was the last German victory.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What he did with power is another point entirely.
Next minute we'll be hearing a comparison between Jez's Glastonbury gig and the Nuremberg Rallies ...
On topic - I doubt spreadshit Phil would want to stand down after two years.
Apart from being boring and being able to use an xls file (but not one that predicted his budget would be rubbish) I can't see anything to suggest he would be a good PM.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
Hitler used socialism to get into power.
Where did you get your history degree ,?Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies .Nazism was based on race, fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What he did with power is another point entirely.
Next minute we'll be hearing a comparison between Jez's Glastonbury gig and the Nuremberg Rallies ...
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Now that I live here I get v annoyed at the rubbish written about Denmark as some socialist paradise - Danes work through a highly devolved system with strong communitarian roots - they don't like or want overmighty government. They also are willing to defend their wlfare state by reserving large parts of it to Danish citizens only - it's a much misunderstood country in the Uk
I have some very good memory's of a visit and shot romance in Copenhagen about 10 years ago, hope its still just as nice there.
I think that a lot of people loot at the overall tax as a % of GDP and make inaccurate assumptions. There is a huge difference between the government taking a lot of tax, but then given it back to people to spend on there own priority, getting the best value they can on all they chose to buy. and the government spending the money itself, employing a lot of people to empower politicians and bureaucrats, on what they think 'the People' should want.
I was in Copenhagen last year, and it is as lovely as ever.
Scandinavian politics has become less Socialist over the last decade or so, but remains far more socially progressive than the Tories are here, and is more in tune though not identical to Corbynism.
There are liberal enclaves that remind me of Scandinavia....Oxford central, Norwich south, Clifton, Cambridge.....cycle lanes, green space, lack of ostentation (and obvious Tories)...better weather and better pubs mind...
Greatest strategic blunder since Stalingrad, surely.
There have been major strategic blunders since Singapore, Saddam invading Kuwait for example. If we stick to purely British errors then both Suez and Gulf War 2 must be in the same league, and the retreat from Basra as humiliating as Singapore.
Stalingrad was far bloodier though. Germany was on the back foot from that point on.
Not quite, both Operation Star and Citadel were significant Further offensives on the Eastern front after Stalingrad.
And how much Soviet territory did Citadel (re-)capture? And how long did the Wehrmacht hold it?
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Sure, Citadel was unsuccessful, but Germany was certainly not on the back foot.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Again, how long did the Germans hold onto the Bulge?
about a month, but for a period they did regain the initiative.
We were talking strategic not tactical.
You said that the Germans were on the backdoor after Stalingrad, I cited 3 examples where they were not on the backdoor. arguably the 3rd battle for Kharkov was the last German victory.
I said "on the backfoot"! After February 1943, how close did the Germans come to winning the war?
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Bingo.
It amazes me that so many are getting suckered by Corbyn, but after Trump I suppose I should accept that it is simply human nature. A large part of the populous aren't thinking deeply but they are certainly feeling that Corbyn shares their views. That his actual ideas are reheated shit that has already been tested to destruction does not matter to them.
Landing the first stage might be iffy due to the weather.
Awesome, they can even launch in the fog now!
Thank God that people like Elon Musk exist.
That was stunning. Doesn't look like the weather caused any issues. I could watch those vertical landings all day.
Same here. This flight was the first to use new titanium grid fins (the strange waffle-iron type things at the top that help control its descent). A shame, as the old aluminium ones with an ablative covering could produce much better flaming theatrics.
So SpaceX have just done two launches in two days, with two landings. One of the first stages had flown before.
They're getting there.
The telemetry wasn't up but that looked like a much less energetic descent to me than the Florida one on Friday where the 1st stage reached 8,500 km/hr
They weren't sure they were going to get that one back, such was the trajectory it had to fly to the landing pad. The rocket was very heavy and heading for geostationary orbit. Watching the telemetry was great, as you say over 8,500km/hr peak speed for the first stage.
LOL if the Conservatives listen to anyone who think along the lines of what you're saying they are definitely going to lose the next election. They did build up votes in places they didn't need. Look at all the increases in their vote share in Northern safe Labour safe seats for example. The Conservatives did not hold on to seats they needed to in the South East and they were no where in marginals like Tooting which they at the very least needed to win in order to increase their majority. In places like Swindon North in which they held they saw a significant swing against them to Labour. In Nuneaton there was barely any change.
The story of this GE isn't Corbyn's success as it is May's failure. Her party led polls by up to 22 points. She had a huge lead in her personal ratings, a lead which no longer now even exists. Her party was seen was competent and pragmatic, in the course of the last few months they have lost that reputation.
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Typical champagne socialist. The only sort who are actually able to afford a socialist government.
I have my own company and your tax bill is substantially larger than my income. No surprise you are happy to talk about pumping up Corporation tax which will kill so many small businesses.
Corbyn, McDonnell manifesto does not even compare to the Labour manifesto of even the 70's and before , let alone 1945.
26% Corporation Tax would hardly make anyone sit up and take notice. The Rail nationalisation would have taken place only when the individual franchises ended.
The rest of the world has moved on....
The times are a changin Mortimer..they really are...neo liberal capitalism is well and truly kefuckered...leading to inequality and huge social injustice....and I really do believe the Tories will be left behind as the world moves on....
The next arguments will be about universal income, equality and human rights as advanced economies rely more on automation...here Corbyn too is well and truly behind the curve too
Indeed. It's why we need to remove ourselves from supranational blocs like the EU.
That's right comrade....Rule Britannia and all that...let's go and get the colonies back....
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
If money isn't an issue, why did you abandon your In Laws in Italy, for tax reasons?
Because my wife wants to be able to have the security of living in her own property should anything happen to me....
I've just sold a property....I could have minimised my tax bill by about 50 grand by simply nominating it as my primary residence some months back, but do not want to be that person...anyhow I'd worry too much that I'd be exposed for tax avoidance...I like to sleep well...
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Typical champagne socialist. The only sort who are actually able to afford a socialist government.
I have my own company and your tax bill is substantially larger than my income. No surprise you are happy to talk about pumping up Corporation tax which will kill so many small businesses.
There are only two groups who support socialism: those poor who can't afford not to have it and those rich who can afford it.
On topic - I doubt spreadshit Phil would want to stand down after two years.
Apart from being boring and being able to use an xls file (but not one that predicted his budget would be rubbish) I can't see anything to suggest he would be a good PM.
Forget your Mays and your Hammonds, Clarkson should be PM
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
For me, it's not the manifesto that is the concern - that, as I've said before isn't particularly radical and is a nod to European social democracy. It's much more McDonnell's comments re Mao, Lenin etc that are concerning.
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
For me, it's not the manifesto that is the concern - that, as I've said before isn't particularly radical and is a nod to European social democracy. It's much more McDonnell's comments re Mao, Lenin etc that are concerning.
The next Labour manifesto will be much further to the left than the last one.
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Comrade.....yer tax bill is 5 times my gross annual public sector pay! Up the workers!
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Typical champagne socialist. The only sort who are actually able to afford a socialist government.
I have my own company and your tax bill is substantially larger than my income. No surprise you are happy to talk about pumping up Corporation tax which will kill so many small businesses.
It's an unusual year for us.....we are trying to simplify our lives and have sold some assets that have done OK over the years...thus the large capital gains bill that I'll need to pay next year....
You know my family and good friends do not have the slightest idea that I have accrued any assets such is my lack of ostentatious wealth...they view me as a feckless dropout , which I am sort of, though I continue to pay my way to the exchequer...
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
Radical? No, I agree, not radical. Just cynical (keep the triple lock, keep winter fuel allowance for the rich), and economically completely off the wall - an extra £50bn a year purely current spending (of which over a fifth was to be targeted at rich graduates, bizarrely), and literally countless billions on nationalisations and other pet ideological projects. Nothing radical about it at all - all this stuff was debunked a generation ago. A tired old repeat of policies which have failed throughout the world is the opposite of radical.
I know there's a group of posters on here for whom Corbyn and McDonnell are reds-under-the-bed bogeymen who will presage the end of the known universe... but I don't think their proposals are particularly radical.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
For me, it's not the manifesto that is the concern - that, as I've said before isn't particularly radical and is a nod to European social democracy. It's much more McDonnell's comments re Mao, Lenin etc that are concerning.
The next Labour manifesto will be much further to the left than the last one.
2015 was The Boy who cried Wolf ( @Pulpstar ) 2017 were the Wolves in Sheep's clothing
LOL if the Conservatives listen to anyone who think along the lines of what you're saying they are definitely going to lose the next election. They did build up votes in places they didn't need. Look at all the increases in their vote share in Northern safe Labour safe seats for example. The Conservatives did not hold on to seats they needed to in the South East and they were no where in marginals like Tooting which they at the very least needed to win in order to increase their majority. In places like Swindon North in which they held they saw a significant swing against them to Labour. In Nuneaton there was barely any change.
The story of this GE isn't Corbyn's success as it is May's failure. Her party led polls by up to 22 points. She had a huge lead in her personal ratings, a lead which no longer now even exists. Her party was seen was competent and pragmatic, in the course of the last few months they have lost that reputation.
They had big increases in most safe seats and big increases in most marginals. That is what happens when you go from 36% to 42% of the vote. Of course Brexit has caused uniform national swing to fall apart as a concept, so there was variability, but you are cherry picking.
It is a shame she fell from sky high levels she was at previously, but it is clear that was due to the manifesto being excessively up front on difficult issues like social care. The previous stratospheric ratings show that the pre-manifesto message of national independence, immigration reduction and measured industrial policy is the right one. But, even so, David Cameron would never have got 42% no matter how many elections he ran in.
I grew up in Denmark and have been back many times - we all see what we want, perhaps, but I'd call it classic social democratic high taxes, high social care and benefits, but almost exclusively private enterprise. Tony Blair likes it, I'd think, and Gorbachev said that on reflection their version of socialism was better than what the Soviets did.
When I lived there I was further left, still am. But the basic insight that people will pay higher tax for good services is important.
Can anyone identify a Country that would be similar in politics to a Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry government
Zimbabwe/Venezuela?
Denmark
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
Now that I live here I get v annoyed at the rubbish written about Denmark as some socialist paradise - Danes work through a highly devolved system with strong communitarian roots - they don't like or want overmighty government. They also are willing to defend their wlfare state by reserving large parts of it to Danish citizens only - it's a much misunderstood country in the Uk
I have some very good memory's of a visit and shot romance in Copenhagen about 10 years ago, hope its still just as nice there.
I think that a lot of people loot at the overall tax as a % of GDP and make inaccurate assumptions. There is a huge difference between the government taking a lot of tax, but then given it back to people to spend on there own priority, getting the best value they can on all they chose to buy. and the government spending the money itself, employing a lot of people to empower politicians and bureaucrats, on what they think 'the People' should want.
I was in Copenhagen last year, and it is as lovely as ever.
Scandinavian politics has become less Socialist over the last decade or so, but remains far more socially progressive than the Tories are here, and is more in tune though not identical to Corbynism.
There are liberal enclaves that remind me of Scandinavia....Oxford central, Norwich south, Clifton, Cambridge.....cycle lanes, green space, lack of ostentation (and obvious Tories)...better weather and better pubs mind...
Norwich is lovely. I got fond of it while Fox Jr was at UEA, and Mrs Fox wants us to retire there. I expect we will (though may depend a bit on where Jr settles, as he is back in Leicester at present).
I think Berlin would be my favourite European city to live in, though Copenhagen, Stockholm, Barcelona, and Rome would also feature.
Probably better as "Volksempfaengerkopf". You see Nazi Germany had a "thing" about Teutonic origins of words and radio was well "a bit foreign" ( Greek??), hence Volksempfaenger or "people's receiver". Linguistic bollocks of course, but oddly some did stick like "Fernsehen" ("farseeing") still today, the German for television, and for that matter Volkswagen or "people's car".
The next Labour manifesto will be much further to the left than the last one.
You aren't drifting back towards Labour are you?
Do you remember how we all laughed when we said, after the election, that Momentum-ites would declare that they only lost because they weren't left wing enough?
What's the Corbyn/McDonnell view on buy to let? Surely that section of the bourgeoisie will be one of the first for the chop?
Why stop there. Land seizures for housing, and the call for retired homeowners to pay a little extra to help others. Foxinsox, Tyson and Owls will scream like banshees, but why shouldn't their good fortune be spread about.
Our tax bill for 2016/17 is going to be about 150k....and I drive a car worth about 200 quid if that, and shop at Aldi.....I really hate people who are obsessed by money. I can live on very little....
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Comrade.....yer tax bill is 5 times my gross annual public sector pay! Up the workers!
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Vote share isn't what elections are fought on, it's seat share. Corbyn losing the election on vote share doesn't matter as much as seat share. The strength of individual party is measured on seat share, not on vote share. No party strategist measuring their strength off the back of votes in places they don't need as opposed to seat gains.
Thank God that people like Elon Musk exist.
Star was a Soviet offensive, BTW
Why, thank you.
More seriously, anyone who thinks that Corbyn/McDonnell will keep to 'sane' socialist politics (if they get into power) needs their head examining.
Denmark does have higher overall taxes than the UK, but even hear this is in part because Denmark normally has a lower deficit than the UK. On Taxes Denmark also has a relatively (for EU standards) low Corporation tax and instead has a high VAT so the opposite of what most Corbinistas want.
I am a border line Anarco-Capitalist, hence by Avatar, but frankly a strongly Neo-Liberal Denmark type situation is a good second to me.
I do find it hysterical when Corbinistas start talking about Denmark, it just shows how much they don't know outside there little bubble!
If this works for Spacex as planned they can save 80-90% of the launch cost compared to where we were only half a decade ago.
(And all achieved despite the US's current 35% corporation tax hoho!)
So SpaceX have just done two launches in two days, with two landings. One of the first stages had flown before.
They're getting there.
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/space.2017.29009.emu?download=true
So the dividend tax income isn't guaranteed.
For example they would be nothing like as radical as Thatcher was in the 80s (in a different direction admittedly).
But even without that, they've potentially massively reduced the cost of getting into orbit.
"He's a bloody nutter, that guy....."
Each changed the balance of power in the world, against Britain's favour.
Though in many ways I actually prefer Bezos's Blue Origin over SpaceX.
I don't withdraw all the profit from my company - it has enabled me to grow my company to the state that employs others. Surely a good thing? Raising corp tax will discourage further growth...
The market/profits for that are massive, and the bottleneck is launch vehicles...
As far as you're concerned, their biggest crime is that they're supporting the Conservatives.
Love how England never changes... bit like how DD described the chief EU negotiator this morning "oh he's very French"
P'haps.
Operation Star was the Soviet offensive, but it was the German Counter offensive that regained the initiative after Stalingrad, and recaptured a lot of territory, notably Kharkov.
It is hard to think of a successful German operation after this, though there was the Bulge.
Part of me would like to see the DUP do a volte-face and support a Corbyn-led government, just for the entertainment value of seeing you trying to turn on a pin.
Hitler was an extremist who used socialism to get into power.
What he did with power is another point entirely.
I think that a lot of people loot at the overall tax as a % of GDP and make inaccurate assumptions. There is a huge difference between the government taking a lot of tax, but then given it back to people to spend on there own priority, getting the best value they can on all they chose to buy. and the government spending the money itself, employing a lot of people to empower politicians and bureaucrats, on what they think 'the People' should want.
Money buys me freedom....tomorrow I can do what the hell I want,. and the day after and the day after that....I'm very lucky. If I was obsessed by cash I could have made a lot more...
Scandinavian politics has become less Socialist over the last decade or so, but remains far more socially progressive than the Tories are here, and is more in tune though not identical to Corbynism.
https://twitter.com/markantro/status/879043259686899712
Read up on his manifesto
https://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/25Points.html
Half the points were nationalist/racist, half were socialist/statist.
They hated Jews because they were deemed capitalist & entrepreneurial (see point 24).
Here is a paper on the science behind grid fins : https://www.sto.nato.int/publications/STO Meeting Proceedings/RTO-MP-AVT-135/MP-AVT-135-35.pdf
Nahh. The Nuremberg Rallies had better music...
One reason that the Tories lost the GE was because of this sort of ridiculous hyperbole.
Apart from being boring and being able to use an xls file (but not one that predicted his budget would be rubbish) I can't see anything to suggest he would be a good PM.
:-) :-) :-)
It amazes me that so many are getting suckered by Corbyn, but after Trump I suppose I should accept that it is simply human nature. A large part of the populous aren't thinking deeply but they are certainly feeling that Corbyn shares their views. That his actual ideas are reheated shit that has already been tested to destruction does not matter to them.
LOL if the Conservatives listen to anyone who think along the lines of what you're saying they are definitely going to lose the next election. They did build up votes in places they didn't need. Look at all the increases in their vote share in Northern safe Labour safe seats for example. The Conservatives did not hold on to seats they needed to in the South East and they were no where in marginals like Tooting which they at the very least needed to win in order to increase their majority. In places like Swindon North in which they held they saw a significant swing against them to Labour. In Nuneaton there was barely any change.
The story of this GE isn't Corbyn's success as it is May's failure. Her party led polls by up to 22 points. She had a huge lead in her personal ratings, a lead which no longer now even exists. Her party was seen was competent and pragmatic, in the course of the last few months they have lost that reputation.
I have my own company and your tax bill is substantially larger than my income. No surprise you are happy to talk about pumping up Corporation tax which will kill so many small businesses.
I've just sold a property....I could have minimised my tax bill by about 50 grand by simply nominating it as my primary residence some months back, but do not want to be that person...anyhow I'd worry too much that I'd be exposed for tax avoidance...I like to sleep well...
You know my family and good friends do not have the slightest idea that I have accrued any assets such is my lack of ostentatious wealth...they view me as a feckless dropout , which I am sort of, though I continue to pay my way to the exchequer...
It is a shame she fell from sky high levels she was at previously, but it is clear that was due to the manifesto being excessively up front on difficult issues like social care. The previous stratospheric ratings show that the pre-manifesto message of national independence, immigration reduction and measured industrial policy is the right one. But, even so, David Cameron would never have got 42% no matter how many elections he ran in.
When I lived there I was further left, still am. But the basic insight that people will pay higher tax for good services is important.
I think Berlin would be my favourite European city to live in, though Copenhagen, Stockholm, Barcelona, and Rome would also feature.
Probably better as "Volksempfaengerkopf". You see Nazi Germany had a "thing" about Teutonic origins of words and radio was well "a bit foreign" ( Greek??), hence Volksempfaenger or "people's receiver". Linguistic bollocks of course, but oddly some did stick like "Fernsehen" ("farseeing") still today, the German for television, and for that matter Volkswagen or "people's car".
Retreats back under stone.
Not laughing now.