Spreadsheet Phil is one of the worst public speakers in the party. He's been around the block but can someone tell me what Grey Phil has done or achieved in any of his ministerial posts? As far as I can tell he's a no talent, no charisma, no hoper.
The Tories need to hold their nerve and get a decent successor ready for post Brexit to take on Corbyn. Someone young, fresh and dynamic is needed but in two years not now.
Another two years of Theresa May? Surely electoral suicide.
Perhaps but replacing May with Hammond now is certain electoral suicide.
Yes, but it's a quicker death.
The Tories need to look to the bank benches or junior ranks for a new leader, not to aging mediocrities.
Why? The ageing mediocrity approach hasn't been a complete disaster for Labour.
And there is no Tory who approaches Corbyn in either age or mediocrity.
I think Corbyn is not so much a mediocrity as a fanatic. Hammond blends un-noticed into the wallpaper, Corbyn rabble rouses against the very concept of bourgeois wallpaper. Put Hammond against Corbyn and its not much of a choice, but Corbyn would triumph by default.
Corbyn vs Boris would be something to behold. Difficult to say which way it would go.
F1: by weird coincidence I decided to take notes of the race (only second time I've done this). Will probably prove quite useful writing it up.
Bet was red, alas. I had £2 on Perez to win at 201. He would've, but for a needless collision...
Anyway, don't want to say much more due to spoilers. A very hectic race.
It was cr@p. Yes, there was excitement, but it was all artificial and I feel dirty for having got some enjoyment for it. They might as well just start randomly pulling cars into the pits.
The Baku circuit should really be dropped from the calendar. The situation with the safety cars was farcical.
F1: by weird coincidence I decided to take notes of the race (only second time I've done this). Will probably prove quite useful writing it up.
Bet was red, alas. I had £2 on Perez to win at 201. He would've, but for a needless collision...
Anyway, don't want to say much more due to spoilers. A very hectic race.
Good luck writing that one up, to describe it as a hectic race is something of an understatement!
Indeed. Mr Dancer's write-up will be a stern test of his literary skills. It'll sound more like fantasy fiction than all of his excellent books combined!
Mr. Jessop, I partly agree. The safety car stuff was nonsense (NB this is a Pirelli/hard tyre and slow safety car issue exacerbated by the characteristics of the circuit). However, there was a lot of action.
Spreadsheet Phil is one of the worst public speakers in the party. He's been around the block but can someone tell me what Grey Phil has done or achieved in any of his ministerial posts? As far as I can tell he's a no talent, no charisma, no hoper.
The Tories need to hold their nerve and get a decent successor ready for post Brexit to take on Corbyn. Someone young, fresh and dynamic is needed but in two years not now.
Another two years of Theresa May? Surely electoral suicide.
Perhaps but replacing May with Hammond now is certain electoral suicide.
Yes, but it's a quicker death.
The Tories need to look to the bank benches or junior ranks for a new leader, not to aging mediocrities.
Why? The ageing mediocrity approach hasn't been a complete disaster for Labour.
And there is no Tory who approaches Corbyn in either age or mediocrity.
I think Corbyn is not so much a mediocrity as a fanatic. Hammond blends un-noticed into the wallpaper, Corbyn rabble rouses against the very concept of bourgeois wallpaper. Put Hammond against Corbyn and its not much of a choice, but Corbyn would triumph by default.
Corbyn vs Boris would be something to behold. Difficult to say which way it would go.
Farage vs Corbyn would be better. All the UKIP votes would go Tory plus most Tory Leave. Some Cameroons would go LD, I think Tory maj nailed on esp as Farage is quite liberal on most things other than immigration. I would love to see it
Jeremy backstage at Glastonbury said he would be PM in six months and scrap Trident
You only need to go back just a few weeks for another politician to think they would have a landslide 5 year majority and see how that worked out.
Corbyn and McDonnell will be found out.
McDonnell's inappropriate language over Grenfell today, Corbyn saying Trident will be axed, and that 1,000 labour peers will be appointed to abolish the HOL shows in many ways they are getting hoisted on their own petard
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Jeremy backstage at Glastonbury said he would be PM in six months and scrap Trident
You only need to go back just a few weeks for another politician to think they would have a landslide 5 year majority and see how that worked out.
Corbyn and McDonnell will be found out.
McDonnell's inappropriate language over Grenfell today, Corbyn saying Trident will be axed, and that 1,000 labour peers will be appointed to abolish the HOL shows in many ways they are getting hoisted on their own petard
I think Radiohead might be another hilarious spoof account! Wayyyyyycist virtue signaller I reckon
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
F1: still writing the post-race tosh. Somewhat displeased that Ladbrokes have held the bets I made at 8, 7 and 5 to be valid but at retroactively altered odds of 1.08, 1.1 and 1.14. Once I've done the bookkeeping and written the post-race ramble I'll be writing an e-mail to them about this. Voiding bets is one thing, retaining them and altering the return from 700% to 8% is quite another.
Edited extra bit: I did set up hedges, so although I'm down it's not by vast sums, but it's the principle of the thing.
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
Learning the lessons of the last year of course - not. Hubris my cost TMay big time, if he doesn't calm it, reality will soon hit. Labour hardly have a insurmountable lead in polls. If the Tories can blow their lead so can Labour.
Mrs May is being held hostage in 10,Downing Street by the Conservative party.On a humanitarian basis-always a bit tricky for Tories-they should release her forthwith and allow her her freedom again to run through cornfields for the rest of her life.It would be such a happy release.
No. But I've had 3 nibbles on Riccardo at 66/1, 100/1, 100/1.
Cashing out at 1/20.
Well done!!
Got lucky with Lewis and vettel having to pit.
A little lucky but they all count! What a mad race
Ive never watched one there before. Track is dreadful but maybe that helped the race be wonderfully bonkers.
That was only the second race there, after last year. The problem is that it's a very long street circuit, and it's difficult to clear dead cars out of the way. There's also a lot of 90 degree turns with no run off areas so any mistakes get punished. Talking of punished, I think Mr Vettel will be looking at additional penalties for his petulance, possibly even a race or two banned.
To the occasional viewer that was a great race, and actually I quite like the idea of once a year holding a $100m demolition derby!
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I actually wouldn't mind if we did scrap it, but why anyone would believe a word those two say is beyond me. It was 1.01 they were IRA supporters, you only have to see they way they look like their nuts are in a vice when they half heartedly deny it
Mrs May is being held hostage in 10,Downing Street by the Conservative party.On a humanitarian basis-always a bit tricky for Tories-they should release her forthwith and allow her her freedom again to run through cornfields for the rest of her life.It would be such a happy release.
You are so caring about Theresa - but it is the bloody difficult women herself who will not be moved
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I actually wouldn't mind if we did scrap it, but why anyone would believe a word those two say is beyond me. It was 1.01 they were IRA supporters, you only have to see they way they look like their nuts are in a vice when they half heartedly deny it
I mean that's the scary thing anybody with any sense knows what they really want, McDonnell has been caught on tape a number of times and it ain't a slightly more left wing government than blair that is for certain.
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
On topic, the Hammond/DD combo is one I've suggested. What I think it comes down to is whether Conservative MPs think that Theresa May is so completely damaged that she simply won't be able to do the job, and in particular that she will be seen by our EU friends as incapable of overseeing Brexit. If so, then irrespective of anything else, she would have to replaced soon and it would have to be a men-in-grey-suits job, because there is no time for a full contest. Alternatively, if they think she can recover sufficient credibility to continue until 2019, when a proper contest could be held, then that would I think be seen as the better option. Neither option is very palatable, but we are where we are.
Richard (seriously o/t)
Did you ever get an explanation for the bounced Betfair cheque?
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Spreadsheet Phil is one of the worst public speakers in the party. He's been around the block but can someone tell me what Grey Phil has done or achieved in any of his ministerial posts? As far as I can tell he's a no talent, no charisma, no hoper.
The Tories need to hold their nerve and get a decent successor ready for post Brexit to take on Corbyn. Someone young, fresh and dynamic is needed but in two years not now.
Another two years of Theresa May? Surely electoral suicide.
Perhaps but replacing May with Hammond now is certain electoral suicide.
Yes, but it's a quicker death.
The Tories need to look to the bank benches or junior ranks for a new leader, not to aging mediocrities.
Why? The ageing mediocrity approach hasn't been a complete disaster for Labour.
And there is no Tory who approaches Corbyn in either age or mediocrity.
I think Corbyn is not so much a mediocrity as a fanatic. Hammond blends un-noticed into the wallpaper, Corbyn rabble rouses against the very concept of bourgeois wallpaper. Put Hammond against Corbyn and its not much of a choice, but Corbyn would triumph by default.
Mr Johnson...by a country mile. Even without my vote!
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Didn't he say Labour Party policy was Trident friendly, but he wasn't!
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Didn't he say Labour Party policy was Trident friendly, but he wasn't!
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Didn't he say Labour Party policy was Trident friendly, but he wasn't!
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Didn't he say Labour Party policy was Trident friendly, but he wasn't!
Have I just defended Corbyn???
But doesn't it imply he'll push ahead regardless?
'As soon as possible' doesn't strike me as pushing ahead regardless, besides which Trident will be a mere trifle compared to some of his other plans.
Spreadsheet Phil is one of the worst public speakers in the party. He's been around the block but can someone tell me what Grey Phil has done or achieved in any of his ministerial posts? As far as I can tell he's a no talent, no charisma, no hoper.
The Tories need to hold their nerve and get a decent successor ready for post Brexit to take on Corbyn. Someone young, fresh and dynamic is needed but in two years not now.
Another two years of Theresa May? Surely electoral suicide.
Perhaps but replacing May with Hammond now is certain electoral suicide.
Yes, but it's a quicker death.
The Tories need to look to the bank benches or junior ranks for a new leader, not to aging mediocrities.
Why? The ageing mediocrity approach hasn't been a complete disaster for Labour.
And there is no Tory who approaches Corbyn in either age or mediocrity.
David Davis is actually a few months older.
I was thinking more that Corbyn dates from the day of the dinosaur.
@PaulBrandITV: Government has confirmed that this still represents 100% failure rate for tower blocks across England, i.e. 60 tested, 60 failed. #Grenfell
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Indeed. But the campaign also taught us the huge cost of being honest and straightforward in a manifesto
@PaulBrandITV: BREAKING: Number of cladding samples failing the fire test has DOUBLED since yesterday to 60 across 25 council areas. #Grenfell
They said yesterday, EVERY sample tested has failed so far
Context please - were these (10 year old?) samples removed from existing tower blocks or brand new samples of the type used? If the former, the test is of little value, except as a measure of longevity in actual use.
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
As for the last statement, not quite the unexpected revelation of the century!
Although not really consistent with what was said during the campaign.
Indeed. But the campaign also taught us the huge cost of being honest and straightforward in a manifesto
If by that you mean the Tory manifesto then vague and uncosted would be more accurate.
Context please - were these (10 year old?) samples removed from existing tower blocks or brand new samples of the type used? If the former, the test is of little value, except as a measure of longevity in actual use.
I think the odds of a successful prosecution against anyone over the fire tragedy is falling as more buildings are shown to have problems. If these panels were seen as standard practice, then it's much harder to pin the blame on any one individual for using the same on Grenfell.
But something has gone horribly wrong with building procurement.
I think the odds of a successful prosecution against anyone over the fire tragedy is falling as more buildings are shown to have problems. If these panels were seen as standard practice, then it's much harder to pin the blame on any one individual for using the same on Grenfell.
But something has gone horribly wrong with building procurement.
These buildings must date back over successive governments, conservative, coalition and labour
I think the odds of a successful prosecution against anyone over the fire tragedy is falling as more buildings are shown to have problems. If these panels were seen as standard practice, then it's much harder to pin the blame on any one individual for using the same on Grenfell.
But something has gone horribly wrong with building procurement.
It took the deadful fire in Woolworths in Manchester in 1979 with the loss of ten lives for the law to change with the introduction of the 1988 furniture and furnishings fire safety regulations making fillings and covers from fire safe material.
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
@PaulBrandITV: Government has confirmed that this still represents 100% failure rate for tower blocks across England, i.e. 60 tested, 60 failed. #Grenfell
And more than 500 more still to test. Does that mean something like a quarter of a million people could potentially be affected, or is there something wrong with my arithmetic?
Is it possible to get odds on the government having to requisition buildings for rehousing, I wonder ...
It is ending in tears. Why does she just not resign tomorrow. The world will carry on.
As it will if Mrs May doesn't resign tomorrow.....which sees the publication of the UK's EU resident offer....cue lots of special pleading and hard cases....
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
The leader of Camden Council, Georgia Gould is in a high stakes battle at present.
She is caught between a rock and a hard place and the real reasons for the emergency evacuation need to be published together with the exact fire service reasons why the advice changed in 24 hours from safe to stay to evacuate now and at 8.00pm on a friday night.
Questions also need to be answered as to when the buildings were previously inspected and when and who issued fire safe certificates
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
Corbyn is now seen more favourably than May among all voters under the age of 65. Bumbling , dim witted , weak and wobbly and idiotic are adjectives better suited to the PM rather than Corbyn .
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
Corbyn is now seen more favourably than May among all voters under the age of 65. Bumbling , dim witted , weak and wobbly and idiotic are adjectives better suited to the PM rather than Corbyn .
Agreed, plus being 'some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator' is not a pre-requisite for becoming PM... being a good campaigner is more important in getting the job. Doing the job well, now that might be another matter...
F1: top marks to Ladbrokes. They voided my losing bet on Perez, and let me keep the (small) winnings on Bottas/Vettel (to be fair, I did specifically ask in my first e-mail that they void the bets if the odds were really that tight).
Edited extra bit: actually, 9/10. Full marks would've been given for letting the bets I'd initially made stand. Still, a good response from customer service.
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
The thing about Corbyn is, it's not who he is, or how competent he is, it's what he represents.
We've been saying for years now, received wisdom is that UK GEs are becoming more and more presidential, it's about who the leaders are and their perceived competence, e.g. Cameron vs Miliband, etc.
The trouble is, as I think we're now learning, that only really works in a system where there is a centrist consensus. In other words, when there's not all that much that separates the parties ideologically.
For the first time in a generation, a general election was fought on two very different competing ideologies. Austerity vs socialism. Hope vs decline. Not May vs Corbyn.
Yes, people are voting for Corbyn, but in a much greater sense they are voting for what he represents - an end to the neo-liberal consensus which the Tories, the Lib Dems and New Labour all signed up to.
Corbyn's masterstroke has been to present his 70s-era ideology as something genuinely new and untested. And it's working, for anyone under the age of 40 - and quite a few more besides.
The next election won't be fought between Corbyn and [Whoever is Tory leader by then], it will be "40 years of neo-liberalism from all the main parties vs kicking the establishment and voting for change".
People said that Trump was foaming and dim-witted, it didn't stop him from winning.
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
Corbyn is now seen more favourably than May among all voters under the age of 65. Bumbling , dim witted , weak and wobbly and idiotic are adjectives better suited to the PM rather than Corbyn .
Agreed, plus being 'some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator' is not a pre-requisite for becoming PM... being a good campaigner is more important in getting the job. Doing the job well, now that might be another matter...
The one thing that is certain the next GE whenever it comes will be fought on very different grounds not least because Corbyn is seen as a possible PM not a no-hoper and labour's economic policies will come under attack from both conservatives and the lib dems and no doubt the IFS
Wonder how much coverage we'll see of Corbyn's Trident comments.
Frankly, as news goes 'long time member of CND wants to scrap Trident' is not exactly 'man bites dog.' I would be surprised if it was widely publicised and still more surprised if anyone cared much.
Wonder how much coverage we'll see of Corbyn's Trident comments.
We live in a world where a potential Chancellor can give speeches to actual Stalinists and it's no big deal apparently. So a potential PM ignoring party policy on defence is probably not even worth mentioning.
Wolfie Smith and Rick for the Young Ones could be running the country quite soon. God help us.
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
For the first time in a generation, a general election was fought on two very different competing ideologies. Austerity vs socialism. Hope vs decline. Not May vs Corbyn.
Yes, people are voting for Corbyn, but in a much greater sense they are voting for what he represents - an end to the neo-liberal consensus which the Tories, the Lib Dems and New Labour all signed up to.
Corbyn's masterstroke has been to present his 70s-era ideology as something genuinely new and untested. And it's working, for anyone under the age of 40 - and quite a few more besides.
The next election won't be fought between Corbyn and [Whoever is Tory leader by then], it will be "40 years of neo-liberalism from all the main parties vs kicking the establishment and voting for change".
People said that Trump was foaming and dim-witted, it didn't stop him from winning.
When Tony Benn describes his vision for the Labour Party in this interview from 1980, he is describing it today!
Can someone please tell me in what ways Hammond has more electoral appeal than May?
He probably doesn't. But then from that Times article they aren't planning to go into an election with him as leader anyway. He would be PM for two years and then they'd get some one more electable.
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
Ken Clarke this morning on Sophy firmly put down any chance of a leadership contest and endorsed Theresa May
We'll see what happens.
He was very good and loyal - he would make a good interim leader himself
I think Ken Clarke would be a great PM even if for a short period. But the Tories would never let him be leader.
But they should do. Ken would wipe the floor with Corbyn.
Corbyn hasn't suddenly become some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator. I know it's silly season, but there's an outbreak of mass hysteria over a 68 year old, far left manhole cover collector.
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
Corbyn is now seen more favourably than May among all voters under the age of 65. Bumbling , dim witted , weak and wobbly and idiotic are adjectives better suited to the PM rather than Corbyn .
Agreed, plus being 'some kind of brilliant Parliamentary orator' is not a pre-requisite for becoming PM... being a good campaigner is more important in getting the job. Doing the job well, now that might be another matter...
The one thing that is certain the next GE whenever it comes will be fought on very different grounds not least because Corbyn is seen as a possible PM not a no-hoper and labour's economic policies will come under attack from both conservatives and the lib dems and no doubt the IFS
I agree with your first point - it will be interesting to see whether being PM in waiting reduces, or galvanises, Jezza's support.
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Wonder how much coverage we'll see of Corbyn's Trident comments.
They are not really news are they? He'd get rid of Trident as soon as he can... but unlike TMay he doesn't decide his party's policies alone. As soon as he can might be never.
Personally, I hope it's quite soon cos it seems a tremendous waste of money to me - we'd never be able to use it independently of the US and so we're just paying them a lot of money to look like we're at the big boys table.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Equally a nutter can be voted out of office in an hour in this country, in the US the process for removing a president is so complicated it's only even been invoked three times.
Indeed, Corbyn could probably be more easily removed via a confidence motion as PM than he can be as leader of the opposition, bearing in mind he has almost no chance of governing alone.
Those surprised with corbyn and McDonnell coming out with mad policies after the GE, let's remember in their manifesto they had banning of Driverless trains and dedicatee LGBT anti-smoking policies.
While places like us push ahead with Driverless cars and trucks, corbyn wants to ban anything like that.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Trouble is if you trash every Labour leader the attacks become obsolete to many.For fucks sake many on here and in the media called Milliband a communist and attacked his father for been a Marxist.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Trouble is if you trash every Labour leader the attacks become obsolete to many.For fucks sake many on here and in the media called Milliband a communist and attacked his father for been a Marxist.
we'd never be able to use it independently of the US and so we're just paying them a lot of money to look like we're at the big boys table.
Yes we could. They are built and maintained by the US but they are fully functioning.
It is true there are very few scenarios I can think of where we would necessarily want to use them and still fewer where the US would not be involved. But your point is simply wrong.
The one thing that is certain the next GE whenever it comes will be fought on very different grounds not least because Corbyn is seen as a possible PM not a no-hoper and labour's economic policies will come under attack from both conservatives and the lib dems and no doubt the IFS
I agree with your first point - it will be interesting to see whether being PM in waiting reduces, or galvanises, Jezza's support.
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
With respect their economic policy passed with no scutiny at all. The IFS utterly condemned it but it was lost in Brexit
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Equally a nutter can be voted out of office in an hour in this country, in the US the process for removing a president is so complicated it's only even been invoked three times.
Indeed, Corbyn could probably be more easily removed via a confidence motion as PM than he can be as leader of the opposition, bearing in mind he has almost no chance of governing alone.
Is a Fair point about impeachment, but reality trump has a majority in both houses and can't still get much done at any particular rate, corbyn would with ease.
Even if trump gets the health care "reform" through it will be tied up in courts for years as was Obama care.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Trouble is if you trash every Labour leader the attacks become obsolete to many.For fucks sake many on here and in the media called Milliband a communist and attacked his father for been a Marxist.
Can't remember anyone calling Miliband a Communist, certainly not on here. Most of the personal attacks were on his geekishness, which is why the bacon sandwich fiasco had traction.
He exploited his personal connections and his family to get a job far beyond his capacity, of course, but then so has Corbyn.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Equally a nutter can be voted out of office in an hour in this country, in the US the process for removing a president is so complicated it's only even been invoked three times.
Indeed, Corbyn could probably be more easily removed via a confidence motion as PM than he can be as leader of the opposition, bearing in mind he has almost no chance of governing alone.
Is a Fair point about impeachment, but reality trump has a majority in both houses and can't still get much done at any particular rate, corbyn would with ease.
Even if trump gets the health care "reform" through it will be tied up in courts for years as was Obama care.
How?
If he got into power it would more or less have to be a coalition. There are not sixty-six obvious gains he could make.
Coalition would severely limit his room to manoeuvre. Ironically, as with Cameron being forced to be more centrist through a coalition so he cannot be as barking mad as he comes across might actually help him at a second election - but unlike Cameron age isn't on his side.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Equally a nutter can be voted out of office in an hour in this country, in the US the process for removing a president is so complicated it's only even been invoked three times.
Indeed, Corbyn could probably be more easily removed via a confidence motion as PM than he can be as leader of the opposition, bearing in mind he has almost no chance of governing alone.
Is a Fair point about impeachment, but reality trump has a majority in both houses and can't still get much done at any particular rate, corbyn would with ease.
Even if trump gets the health care "reform" through it will be tied up in courts for years as was Obama care.
How?
If he got into power it would more or less have to be a coalition. There are not sixty-six obvious gains he could make.
Coalition would severely limit his room to manoeuvre. Ironically, as with Cameron being forced to be more centrist through a coalition so he cannot be as barking mad as he comes across might actually help him at a second election - but unlike Cameron age isn't on his side.
I was presuming he wins a majority. Due to fptp he was only acually a few 1000 being biggest party this time.
All that lying by corbyn and McDonnell during the GE, not that the cult care he is still the messiah.
I honestly think Corbyn and McDonnell are worse than Trump. In the fortnight since the election they have being coming out crackpot stuff at turbo speed. Bring down the government, break the US blockade of Cuba, scrap Trident, and yet more freebies. I find it hard to believe that people who previously supported Miliband, Brown, and Blair are really on side with these two. Being ahead in the polls is one thing, but do Labour supporters of old really agree with them?
They scare me more than trump, because the founding fathers of the us put in place lots of roadblocks to a nutter getting his way, which trump has already started to find out about.
Trouble is if you trash every Labour leader the attacks become obsolete to many.For fucks sake many on here and in the media called Milliband a communist and attacked his father for been a Marxist.
Can't remember anyone calling Miliband a Communist, certainly not on here. Most of the personal attacks were on his geekishness, which is why the bacon sandwich fiasco had traction.
He exploited his personal connections and his family to get a job far beyond his capacity, of course, but then so has Corbyn.
Ed Milliband was attacked relentlessly over predatory capitalism .I remember Vince Cable gave him a hearing.As for the geek attacks you reap what you sow.
I actually don't see anything wrong with banning driverless trains. I wouldn't feel safe going on a train without a driver.
I actually don't think Labour's manifesto is the big issue. It isn't really that radical. The issue is what Corbyn and McDonnell would like to do that they haven't been quite honest about.
But all this panicking about a Corbyn/McDonnell government on here is hilarious and ridiculous. The truth is, politics is unpredictable as ever - there are no certainties anymore so it's time to stop talking as if there are. What I would say is that it's unlikely that any party is going to win a comfortable or even a working majority at the next GE. It is likely to be a small majority or being the largest party in a hung parliament, and in that scenario no party gets to do whatever they want lol. So stop with the apocalyptic scenarios.
The one thing that is certain the next GE whenever it comes will be fought on very different grounds not least because Corbyn is seen as a possible PM not a no-hoper and labour's economic policies will come under attack from both conservatives and the lib dems and no doubt the IFS
I agree with your first point - it will be interesting to see whether being PM in waiting reduces, or galvanises, Jezza's support.
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
With respect their economic policy passed with no scutiny at all. The IFS utterly condemned it but it was lost in Brexit
IMO, it's pointless trying to predict what will happen at the next GE, at this stage.
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The Baku circuit should really be dropped from the calendar. The situation with the safety cars was farcical.
(End grumpy old man mode)
But don't expect the post-race ramble to be up soon. It was a race not without incident
Mr. M, alas, there were no frisky elves involved
Corbyn and McDonnell will be found out.
McDonnell's inappropriate language over Grenfell today, Corbyn saying Trident will be axed, and that 1,000 labour peers will be appointed to abolish the HOL shows in many ways they are getting hoisted on their own petard
I think the Conservatives are seriously concerned about May messing up Brexit which really would be electoral suicide for them. The thinking seems to be that Hammond would handle Brexit a lot better than May.
In a wide-ranging Q&A on Sunday (June 25) at Speakers Forum in the Green Futures area of Glastonbury Festival Michael Eavis revealed what Jeremy Corbyn said to him before appearing on the Pyramid Stage on Saturday.
When asked about the Labour leader's appearance, Michael Eavis said: "Wasn't he fantastic?"
"I said to when are you going to be prime minister? He said: 'In six months'."
Eavis said he asked Corbyn: "When are you going to get rid of Trident?"
"He said: 'as soon as I can'."
Edited extra bit: I did set up hedges, so although I'm down it's not by vast sums, but it's the principle of the thing.
Learning the lessons of the last year of course - not. Hubris my cost TMay big time, if he doesn't calm it, reality will soon hit. Labour hardly have a insurmountable lead in polls. If the Tories can blow their lead so can Labour.
Nothing is certain in these times.
To the occasional viewer that was a great race, and actually I quite like the idea of once a year holding a $100m demolition derby!
Did you ever get an explanation for the bounced Betfair cheque?
People have to stop believing in messiahs. Politicians will politician.
Have I just defended Corbyn???
@PaulBrandITV: BREAKING: Number of cladding samples failing the fire test has DOUBLED since yesterday to 60 across 25 council areas. #Grenfell
They said yesterday, EVERY sample tested has failed so far
Even in Camden 3,000 in hotels for 4 weeks at £100 per night is £8.4 million and no one seems to think 4 weeks will be anything like the time required
Not all will have to be in hotels though; Camden was a special case.
Or put it this way - it's a longer shot than Headingley 1981.
We sell flame retardant fabric for curtains and our customers need a certificate of compliance with British Standards.
I think the odds of a successful prosecution against anyone over the fire tragedy is falling as more buildings are shown to have problems. If these panels were seen as standard practice, then it's much harder to pin the blame on any one individual for using the same on Grenfell.
But something has gone horribly wrong with building procurement.
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/azerbaijan-post-race-analysis-2017.html
Annoyingly, Ladbrokes chose to reply to my query a few hours before the race and I missed it until now. We'll see how that goes.
Point to note it took 9 years to legislate
Is it possible to get odds on the government having to requisition buildings for rehousing, I wonder ...
Away from his foaming teenage groupees, he will still be the bumbling, dim-witted idiot he always has been.
She is caught between a rock and a hard place and the real reasons for the emergency evacuation need to be published together with the exact fire service reasons why the advice changed in 24 hours from safe to stay to evacuate now and at 8.00pm on a friday night.
Questions also need to be answered as to when the buildings were previously inspected and when and who issued fire safe certificates
Edited extra bit: actually, 9/10. Full marks would've been given for letting the bets I'd initially made stand. Still, a good response from customer service.
We've been saying for years now, received wisdom is that UK GEs are becoming more and more presidential, it's about who the leaders are and their perceived competence, e.g. Cameron vs Miliband, etc.
The trouble is, as I think we're now learning, that only really works in a system where there is a centrist consensus. In other words, when there's not all that much that separates the parties ideologically.
For the first time in a generation, a general election was fought on two very different competing ideologies. Austerity vs socialism. Hope vs decline. Not May vs Corbyn.
Yes, people are voting for Corbyn, but in a much greater sense they are voting for what he represents - an end to the neo-liberal consensus which the Tories, the Lib Dems and New Labour all signed up to.
Corbyn's masterstroke has been to present his 70s-era ideology as something genuinely new and untested. And it's working, for anyone under the age of 40 - and quite a few more besides.
The next election won't be fought between Corbyn and [Whoever is Tory leader by then], it will be "40 years of neo-liberalism from all the main parties vs kicking the establishment and voting for change".
People said that Trump was foaming and dim-witted, it didn't stop him from winning.
Wolfie Smith and Rick for the Young Ones could be running the country quite soon. God help us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hES7WlDLs8
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
Personally, I hope it's quite soon cos it seems a tremendous waste of money to me - we'd never be able to use it independently of the US and so we're just paying them a lot of money to look like we're at the big boys table.
Indeed, Corbyn could probably be more easily removed via a confidence motion as PM than he can be as leader of the opposition, bearing in mind he has almost no chance of governing alone.
While places like us push ahead with Driverless cars and trucks, corbyn wants to ban anything like that.
It is true there are very few scenarios I can think of where we would necessarily want to use them and still fewer where the US would not be involved. But your point is simply wrong.
The one thing that is certain the next GE whenever it comes will be fought on very different grounds not least because Corbyn is seen as a possible PM not a no-hoper and labour's economic policies will come under attack from both conservatives and the lib dems and no doubt the IFS
I agree with your first point - it will be interesting to see whether being PM in waiting reduces, or galvanises, Jezza's support.
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
With respect their economic policy passed with no scutiny at all. The IFS utterly condemned it but it was lost in Brexit
Even if trump gets the health care "reform" through it will be tied up in courts for years as was Obama care.
He exploited his personal connections and his family to get a job far beyond his capacity, of course, but then so has Corbyn.
If he got into power it would more or less have to be a coalition. There are not sixty-six obvious gains he could make.
Coalition would severely limit his room to manoeuvre. Ironically, as with Cameron being forced to be more centrist through a coalition so he cannot be as barking mad as he comes across might actually help him at a second election - but unlike Cameron age isn't on his side.
I actually don't think Labour's manifesto is the big issue. It isn't really that radical. The issue is what Corbyn and McDonnell would like to do that they haven't been quite honest about.
But all this panicking about a Corbyn/McDonnell government on here is hilarious and ridiculous. The truth is, politics is unpredictable as ever - there are no certainties anymore so it's time to stop talking as if there are. What I would say is that it's unlikely that any party is going to win a comfortable or even a working majority at the next GE. It is likely to be a small majority or being the largest party in a hung parliament, and in that scenario no party gets to do whatever they want lol. So stop with the apocalyptic scenarios.
But as for Labours economic policies coming under attack, that will not be different just a repeat of what we saw this time. And they held up pretty well.
With respect their economic policy passed with no scutiny at all. The IFS utterly condemned it but it was lost in Brexit
IMO, it's pointless trying to predict what will happen at the next GE, at this stage.