@DPJHodges: This is always Corbyn's response to what he would face Britain face nuclear attack. Pretend he'd already stopped it via negotiation.
You may as well ask him.how he'd deal with a zombie apocalypse or alien invasion, no one is worried about a nation state nuclear attack. Doesn't enter their thinking.
Below inflation pay rises, housing costs, education and health are what people care about
In the age of ISIS, Kim Jong Un, Putin etc it cannot be ignored
That is not what he said. He described the Holocaust as the biggest stain on human history.
There is a difference between words and actions.
Questions and answers are about words.
The line that Ken Livingstone is anti-Semitic is made-up, dishonest, disingenuous garbage and hardly anybody gives a crap about it.
Sadly.
Racism tends to be an issue which minorities care the most about.
I wonder if this was a subject which concerned anti-black racism, would you be so at ease to say 'and no gives a crap about it' as if it's a good thing.
Racism is always wrong - unless you're Jewish. Welcome to Corbyn's Labour Party doublespeak.
This what happens when people are more about defending anything Corbyn says than a concern for racism. I'd expect the left to especially be concerned about anti-semitism given the rise of the alt-right in Europe and America, and alt-righters anti-semitism.
Funnily enough I think you would find at least some military brass who would go along with the policy on nuclear weapons as professed by Corbyn. Politically it doesn't fly however.
If we've got them, you need to be prepared to use them. If we're not prepared to use them - dump from the manifesto. Corbyn's stance is a nonsense.
I would have liked to have seen "scrap nukes" in the manifesto. As PM when he receives the strategic defence review - although hopefully before - Jeremy Corbyn should scrap British nukes forever.
Funnily enough I think you would find at least some military brass who would go along with the policy on nuclear weapons as professed by Corbyn. Politically it doesn't fly however.
It'll come down to a basic question. What's most important. That you can't pay your bills despite working hard? Or that "if some idiot in Iran has launched missiles at us 'ow will you stop them"
Nearly half the people I worked with lost their jobs in 2009 while the Labour government did f'ck all to help.
So forgive me if I don't think Labour gives a toss about people who work hard.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
Trident is the biggest waste of public money. £70bn-£100bn depending on who you listen too. The fact that 51% of the population apparently support it is shows blackmail works.
He's just lost the election by no first use of nuclear weapons, it's not credible that you would only retaliate once we had been attacked.
He would not use them at all - well, maybe on the Americans......
Triple the left wingery of this labour manifesto (and the borrowing) and that is what you woukd get under Corbyn.
Trident is about our place in the world. Is it serious that we give it up (and we would under Corbyn) while France keeps their missiles? Corbyn actually WANTS Britain to be diminished in thecworld. He WANTS the West weakened. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a total brsinless idiot.
@DPJHodges: This is always Corbyn's response to what he would face Britain face nuclear attack. Pretend he'd already stopped it via negotiation.
You may as well ask him.how he'd deal with a zombie apocalypse or alien invasion, no one is worried about a nation state nuclear attack. Doesn't enter their thinking.
Below inflation pay rises, housing costs, education and health are what people care about
In the age of ISIS, Kim Jong Un, Putin etc it cannot be ignored
It'll come down to a basic question. What's most important. That you can't pay your bills despite working hard? Or that "if some idiot in Iran has launched missiles at us 'ow will you stop them"
The safety of the realm figures very highly for people.
You live in Switzerland outside NATO with no nuclear weapons. Do you lay awake worrying about the threat of being nuked by Iran?
Not really, but then again Switzerland isn't the world's 5th largest economy or a regular target for Islamist nations.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
I am sure I read articles saying he played no part in the peace process.
That is not what he said. He described the Holocaust as the biggest stain on human history.
There is a difference between words and actions.
Questions and answers are about words.
The line that Ken Livingstone is anti-Semitic is made-up, dishonest, disingenuous garbage and hardly anybody gives a crap about it.
So, just to be clear, you say both that the claim that Livingstone is anti-semitic is unfounded (even though his own party suspended him for it), and that hardly anybody cares anyway. Is that because nobody cares about racism, or because anti-semitism is markedly less serious than other forms of racism, or for some other reason?
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He wasn't part of any bloody peace process!
I'm starting to think our debates need American style fact checkers.
It'll come down to a basic question. What's most important. That you can't pay your bills despite working hard? Or that "if some idiot in Iran has launched missiles at us 'ow will you stop them"
There are very few things that actually have to be done by government. Defending its citizens is one of them.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
@JGForsyth: Corbyn just said that businesses were doing well because of the corporation tax cuts. But that's the point--leads to more tax revenue & jobs
Trident is the biggest waste of public money. £70bn-£100bn depending on who you listen too. The fact that 51% of the population apparently support it is shows blackmail works.
Well why didn't the Labour mainfesto vow to scrap it then. With a nuclear defense system you're a target and whoever is in charge needs to be prepared to use it.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
But he rewrites history and is getting away with it but when the alternative is no better with no prospect for the future then maybe it's time to change the voting system to allow a wider view of alternatives
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
I am not sure the issue matters anywhere near as much as the Tories hope it would but on a basic point of accuracy he is lying through his back teeth.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
@JGForsyth: Corbyn just said that businesses were doing well because of the corporation tax cuts. But that's the point--leads to more tax revenue & jobs
Rightwingers seriously claim that lowering tax rates means you get more tax revenue, yet they accuse the Left of lacking arithmetical skills.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
He talked to bombers did he not?
He observed a minutes silence for the IRA thugs who were killed whilst setting up to attack policemen
And how is it he only ever spoke to one side?
The side that his home secretary wanted to win and his chancellor applauded for their actions.
@JGForsyth: Corbyn just said that businesses were doing well because of the corporation tax cuts. But that's the point--leads to more tax revenue & jobs
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
I am not sure the issue matters anywhere near as much as the Tories hope it would but on a basic point of accuracy he is lying through his back teeth.
I've said for ages it is priced in, older voters remember it, but they generally vote Tory.
Younger voters have seen the likes of Martin McGuinness meet The Queen, so it's not an issue.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
I am sure I read articles saying he played no part in the peace process.
He actually opposed the Anglo-Irish Agreement which was one of the important stepping stones to the Good Friday Agreement. He opposed peace on any terms except a unified Ireland.
@JGForsyth: Corbyn just said that businesses were doing well because of the corporation tax cuts. But that's the point--leads to more tax revenue & jobs
Rightwingers seriously claim that lowering tax rates means you get more tax revenue, yet they accuse the Left of lacking arithmetical skills.
It'll come down to a basic question. What's most important. That you can't pay your bills despite working hard? Or that "if some idiot in Iran has launched missiles at us 'ow will you stop them"
Nearly half the people I worked with lost their jobs in 2009 while the Labour government did f'ck all to help.
So forgive me if I don't think Labour gives a toss about people who work hard.
Socialism takes money from them that has and gives it away to them that are willing to piss it up the wall.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
He talked to bombers did he not?
He observed a minutes silence for the IRA thugs who were killed whilst setting up to attack policemen
And how is it he only ever spoke to one side?
The side that his home secretary wanted to win and his chancellor applauded for their actions.
I note you ignore completely the Hamas issue.
Corbyn, Abbott, and McDonnell supported the IRA. It's plain to see, and now all three are lying about it.
@patrickwintour: May unable to explain why she called this election - zero narrative. Corbyn had a theme, but unable to convince how he will keep UK safe.
Audience member asks 'How can we vote for you as PM if you have supported the IRA or Hamas', Corbyn denies ever supporting them but says he talked to them as part of the peace process
He didn't say that. He said that he talked to representatives of the Republican movement. Different.
I am not sure the issue matters anywhere near as much as the Tories hope it would but on a basic point of accuracy he is lying through his back teeth.
I've said for ages it is priced in, older voters remember it, but they generally vote Tory.
Younger voters have seen the likes of Martin McGuinness meet The Queen, so it's not an issue.
Corbyn catastrophic on Nuclear Weapons, if he stood for decommissioning trident that would be defensible but incurring all the cost and not being prepared to use it is the worst of all worlds
Trident is the biggest waste of public money. £70bn-£100bn depending on who you listen too. The fact that 51% of the population apparently support it is shows blackmail works.
Well why didn't the Labour mainfesto vow to scrap it then. With a nuclear defense system you're a target and whoever is in charge needs to be prepared to use it.
200 nations do not have nuclear weapons. Have they been annihilated ? You are right. We could be a target because we have nuclear weapons.
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That's the side of Corbyn that people love.
The Tories take out Lamb and Farron, Labour take out Clegg
Doesn't mean he will be a good Prime Minister or Brexit negotiator.
So forgive me if I don't think Labour gives a toss about people who work hard.
Credit your countrymen with more sense
These last fifteen minutes by Corbyn has fucked that thread right over.
Trident is about our place in the world. Is it serious that we give it up (and we would under Corbyn) while France keeps their missiles?
Corbyn actually WANTS Britain to be diminished in thecworld. He WANTS the West weakened.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a total brsinless idiot.
But they might on Trident.
It is obselete, a system designed for a Cold War that ended 25 years ago.
If you turn on at peak time to BBC1, he's getting roasted on his two weakest areas, Defence and Security.
Lucky for May, she was up against the 2nd half of Gardeners' World on 2.
Final bloke on Nuclear gave Jezza a chance to give a stronger answer
Silly Yorkshire Tory
My dad is a kipper, voted Labour most of his life until 2015. Doesn't care about this IRA issue, but strongly opposes Corbyn's stance on Trident.
How badly has May fucked it, or are we still alive?
I'm starting to think our debates need American style fact checkers.
#bbcqt
Corbyn has well and truly fucked up over defence/Trident.
He's been as bad as we thought he'd be in 2015.
With a nuclear defense system you're a target and whoever is in charge needs to be prepared to use it.
I try and be fair, but just look at John's comment at 9.47pm to see how bad he was.
He observed a minutes silence for the IRA thugs who were killed whilst setting up to attack policemen
And how is it he only ever spoke to one side?
The side that his home secretary wanted to win and his chancellor applauded for their actions.
I note you ignore completely the Hamas issue.
Strong start, floundered on nukes, recovered slightly.
Overall Score Draw On the Night.
Statistically, he's right.
Younger voters have seen the likes of Martin McGuinness meet The Queen, so it's not an issue.
Overall, Jezza was stronger and hit more crowd-pleasing notes than May, but the Trident dip was more severe than anything May endured.
Now it's a score draw between him and May, the latter of which didn't do very well overall.
Sad but true why couldnt he lie just a little bit and say potentially there were circumstances where he would push the fookin button.
May does it in every answer
@patrickwintour: May unable to explain why she called this election - zero narrative. Corbyn had a theme, but unable to convince how he will keep UK safe.
Corbyn - 4/10
Corbyn catastrophic on Nuclear Weapons, if he stood for decommissioning trident that would be defensible but incurring all the cost and not being prepared to use it is the worst of all worlds