In fact the sitting MP in Edinburgh West has not been charged with anything. I suggest you get your post down pronto before Mike does it for you - otherwise no 18,176 might be your last.
You are correct, and I apologise.
Mr S - Do you still have your place on L.I.? I'm off to Shelter Island sometime during next week so I'll wave as I pass!
If say it was a piece of electrical equipment exploding, the fear of a stampede and people getting crushed I would imagine would be very real. Looks like the concert was finished and people were leaving.
In fact the sitting MP in Edinburgh West has not been charged with anything. I suggest you get your post down pronto before Mike does it for you - otherwise no 18,176 might be your last.
You are correct, and I apologise.
Mr S - Do you still have your place on L.I.? I'm off to Shelter Island sometime during next week so I'll wave as I pass!
Are you going via the South Fork or the North?
Go via the north, it's prettier and less pretentious - or at least used to be...
There is no clear incident reporting on this thing at Manchester Arena so far. None, so ffs wait.
BBC World News reported the two loud bangs, described it as an incident, then went on to an extended report on how Orangutans suckle their young longer than any other mammal and what that means for family stability.
In fact the sitting MP in Edinburgh West has not been charged with anything. I suggest you get your post down pronto before Mike does it for you - otherwise no 18,176 might be your last.
You are correct, and I apologise.
Mr S - Do you still have your place on L.I.? I'm off to Shelter Island sometime during next week so I'll wave as I pass!
Are you going via the South Fork or the North?
Probably South - Outerbridge Crossing is my preferred crossing point. Getting from there to the L.I.E. is a real pain during weekdays, so I usually go the southern way.
There is no clear incident reporting on this thing at Manchester Arena so far. None, so ffs wait.
BBC World News reported the two loud bangs, described it as an incident, then went on to an extended report on how Orangutans suckle their young longer than any other mammal and what that means for family stability.
As Fox News would say, that's fair and balanced.
The problem is that we just don't know why yet. Yes its a fair target for malicious attack, in fact its a great target but the reporting even with news of fatalities is vague.
In fact the sitting MP in Edinburgh West has not been charged with anything. I suggest you get your post down pronto before Mike does it for you - otherwise no 18,176 might be your last.
You are correct, and I apologise.
Mr S - Do you still have your place on L.I.? I'm off to Shelter Island sometime during next week so I'll wave as I pass!
Are you going via the South Fork or the North?
Go via the north, it's prettier and less pretentious - or at least used to be...
Yes, North Fork is a prettier option - wineries and all - but you have to get to the L.I.E. Therein lies the problem. If I was coming up I-95 I'd knock on your door at midnight!
Helen Pidd ✔ @helenpidd Group of lads from Sheffield say they heard a bang stage right, saw smoke coming from the @ManchesterArena entrance. Saw 5+ casualties
There is no clear incident reporting on this thing at Manchester Arena so far. None, so ffs wait.
BBC World News reported the two loud bangs, described it as an incident, then went on to an extended report on how Orangutans suckle their young longer than any other mammal and what that means for family stability.
As Fox News would say, that's fair and balanced.
The problem is that we just don't know why yet. Yes its a fair target for malicious attack, in fact its a great target but the reporting even with news of fatalities is vague.
And expect Labours only gain across the UK in Gower as local voters regret their decision last time...
I reckon Byron will get back in with an increased majority. His seat has 2015 Nuneaton written all over it.
I think Byron is helped by UKIP standing. UKIP take votes from the northern industrial part of the constituency.
Ynys Mons Plaid; Gower Labour could happen, I'm betting against it though !
I think you are wrong about Ynys Mon.
If the Labour vote had collapsed, then the Tories would take it -- courtesy of Labour voters who prefer to see a Tory than Plaid.
Also, the PC candidate is the former MP/AM for Ynys Mon and Former Deputy First Minister of Wales (Ieuan Wyn Jones). He’ll have a personal vote, and can call in favours.
Hmm looking back at the Welsh Assembly votes I can't see any evidence of a personal vote for Ieuan Wyn Jones whatsoever. The majority substantially increased when Rhun ap Iorwerth ran..
Similiarly neither Alistair Carmichael nor Dennis Skinner has a personal vote when you examine the previous histories of Orkney and Bolsover.
I'm prepared to take a gamble on Labour there at between 10 and 12 to 1 anyway.
Ynys Mon is,fascinating. Plaid vote is a bit shaky at the moment and Labour have a habit of hanging on there. Tories must be in with a shout though. Really haven't a clue. On the other hand had a small wager on Lab in Gower.
I used a free bet on Ynys Mon, Labour hold at 10/1. My thinking is simply that Plaid are generally a bit of a damp squib in general elections, and the Tories will struggle to surge from 3rd here with a split opposition, so will struggle to benefit from any anti-labour tactical voting. It will be the result of the night for me if Labour hold it.
There is no clear incident reporting on this thing at Manchester Arena so far. None, so ffs wait.
BBC World News reported the two loud bangs, described it as an incident, then went on to an extended report on how Orangutans suckle their young longer than any other mammal and what that means for family stability.
As Fox News would say, that's fair and balanced.
The problem is that we just don't know why yet. Yes its a fair target for malicious attack, in fact its a great target but the reporting even with news of fatalities is vague.
Serious question.....who on earth is Ariana Grande?
not just me then.....
She's a young singer from the same mould as other ex Disney stars like Miley Cyrus - means the audience would be predominantly teenage girls, and so they were expressly targeting children.
Will be a lot of teenagers at that concert. My cousin is 14 and was with her mum at the concert.
Hope they are both okay.
They are, got out ok. Shaken up by the noise and people screaming and rushing to get out, I think luckily they were pretty close to an exit when whatever actually happened.
Will be a lot of teenagers at that concert. My cousin is 14 and was with her mum at the concert.
Hope they are both okay.
They are, got out ok. Shaken up by the noise and people screaming and rushing to get out, I think luckily they were pretty close to an exit when whatever actually happened.
Will be a lot of teenagers at that concert. My cousin is 14 and was with her mum at the concert.
Hope they are both okay.
They are, got out ok. Shaken up by the noise and people screaming and rushing to get out, I think luckily they were pretty close to an exit when whatever actually happened.
So many mixed reports out there. Some think a sound system blew and caused a crush. Whatever happened confirmed fatalities and likely teenagers among them considering the concert.
Owen Jones is off tweeting Manchester shall never be beaten eulogies...... ffs it's about kids and getting them reunited with their parents asap. Been taking ms. Scrap to loads of gigs and this is her mums worst nightmare whenever we've gone.....horrendous.
Again, I'm going to say wait. Something that destructive looks like an deliberate explosion but in any densely packed area any large bang accidental or not is going to cause damage.
Again, I'm going to say wait. Something that destructive looks like an deliberate explosion but in any densely packed area any large bang accidental or not is going to cause damage.
Eyewitness reports really lack any thread.
You are right - it could be the stampede which caused the fatalities after a minor explosion. As ever, getting ahead of myself.
Again, I'm going to say wait. Something that destructive looks like an deliberate explosion but in any densely packed area any large bang accidental or not is going to cause damage.
Again, I'm going to say wait. Something that destructive looks like an deliberate explosion but in any densely packed area any large bang accidental or not is going to cause damage.
Eyewitness reports really lack any thread.
You are right - it could be the stampede which caused the fatalities after a minor explosion. As ever, getting ahead of myself.
Sky saying "huge explosion that knocked people off their feet" (reports I should say)
If this is an islamist attack, I'm afraid we need to implement what SeanT has been advocating. Ban cousin marriages, ban the face veil, prosecute FGM, ban foreign funding for Mosques, close down salafi/whabbist mosques etc etc. We need to push the extremists out. We do the above and they will go.
I have been very reluctant to say this, but we clearly have a much bigger problem on our hands then we ever thought we would.
If this is an islamist attack, I'm afraid we need to implement what SeanT has been advocating. Ban cousin marriages, ban the face veil, prosecute FGM, ban forein funding for Mosques, close down salafi/whabbist mosques etc etc. We need to push the extremists out. We do the above and they will go.
If this is an islamist attack, I'm afraid we need to implement what SeanT has been advocating. Ban cousin marriages, ban the face veil, prosecute FGM, ban foreign funding for Mosques, close down salafi/whabbist mosques etc etc. We need to push the extremists out. We do the above and they will go.
I have been very reluctant to say this, but we clearly have a much bigger problem on our hands then we ever thought we would.
How exactly are any of those going to stop maniacs with nail bombs?
Again, I'm going to say wait. Something that destructive looks like an deliberate explosion but in any densely packed area any large bang accidental or not is going to cause damage.
Eyewitness reports really lack any thread.
You are right - it could be the stampede which caused the fatalities after a minor explosion. As ever, getting ahead of myself.
If you look at some of the walking wounded, no shrapnel, all lower limbs and bleeding ears so a people knocked over situation is likely. What we don't see is who is being wheeled out.
Credit to the cops they look to have made a tight cordon against media.
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Go via the north, it's prettier and less pretentious - or at least used to be...
As Fox News would say, that's fair and balanced.
https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866786909544230912
Group of lads from Sheffield say they heard a bang stage right, saw smoke coming from the @ManchesterArena entrance. Saw 5+ casualties
Sick.
Utter scum if so given the children there inevitably...but too early for sure.
It's from a training exercise a few years ago.
Because they've updated the colour scheme inside the Arena since then
My son is at the Uni there but is OK - revising for exams I'm pleased to say.
Tim Farron already commenting on Manchester explosion - "a shocking and horrific attack targeting children". No confirmation of this yet.
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Caution advised.....
I assume tim is smart/well connected enough to know when the balance of probability has tipped though.
British transport police say it was an explosion
When I read the first report at the Mail I thought it was going to be something relatively minor...
Eyewitness reports really lack any thread.
sound of explosion there
I have been very reluctant to say this, but we clearly have a much bigger problem on our hands then we ever thought we would.
Credit to the cops they look to have made a tight cordon against media.