It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
£20 tonight means I too don't think I've ever lost, in terms of a fait accompli.
There have been ties the book has suffered, a couple of occasions badly, but it has never end so. Can't be unhappy even if £20 isn't quite enough to retire on.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
In r1 I bet that Fillon was going to get over 20%, and then gave up leaving a lay to be matched off overnight in case someone messed up. The bet was matched very very late on (Like 2 am) when it turned what would have been £80 into 0 !
So the continuing drift up of Macron will continue way into the night.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
The oldest enemy of Britain and especially England is France, we tend to do exactly the opposite of what they do eg when they had Mitterand we had Thatcher and Major, when they had Chirac and Sarkozy we had Blair and Brown, when they had Hollande and Macron we had Cameron and May
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
Thanks to all for your comments on my article earlier today.
On a personal level I don't particularly like Macron. But that's because he reminds me too much of the smooth but essentially vacuous investment bankers I've spent too much time with. But infinitely better than Le Pen.
I doubt France will reform in any meaningful way. Too many vested interests. And no real will to do so. (Ditto with the EU.) And "reform" in the French context means something quite different to what we might understand. France is still a statist top down country, which provides a very good life for those on the inside track but a shit life for anyone who isn't.
What's worrying is that a third (or more) of French voters did vote for Le Pen (double her father's vote) and that there may not be any serious analysis of why they did so and what might sensibly be done to alleviate their concerns.
"Phew! We won." is not sensible politics.
But too often it is the - complacent - response. The emphasis should be less on the welcome defeat of Le Pen and more on what needs to be done to get those voters on your side.
Voters are not an optional extra in a democracy.
As I put it in my article published last Sunday: " Populist – but toxic – parties provide an easy excuse for mainstream parties and less uncouth politicians to ignore difficult problems until they force themselves onto the national stage, with unpredictable consequences."
The test for Macron is whether he is willing and able to address the problems which led to someone like Le Pen getting as many votes as she has.
I hope he does because France is a country I love, which has been tormented by barbarians in recent years.
And now for a bad Sunday night pun: Macaron has taken the biscuit.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
I have never been so jealous of the French.
It will last a month, until the May landslide brings reality home
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
If the 48% can be ignored, so can the 34%.
The referendum was a one-off, whereas elections keep happening on a regular cycle. If the issues that resulted in a third of the electorate voting for Le Pen are not successfully addressed, then she or a successor could do better next time, and the time after that, until...
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
I have never been so jealous of the French.
It will last a month, until the May landslide brings reality home
I suspect that then I will be even more envious of our nearest neighbour.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
If the 48% can be ignored, so can the 34%.
Most of the 48% are being listened to. It's the ultras - the 15% - that will be ignored. A bit like the ultras at the other end.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
I have never been so jealous of the French.
In France, sure. And maybe in time in the UK. But I suspect a minority (probably a fairly small one) of the country will know the name Emmanuel Macron by June 8th, and the mood music won't be noticed by then.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
The oldest enemy of Britain and especially England is France, we tend to do exactly the opposite of what they do eg when they had Mitterand we had Thatcher and Major, when they had Chirac and Sarkozy we had Blair and Brown, when they had Hollande and Macron we had Cameron and May
"Enemy" .......FFS man, we have been Allies against the "bad guys" for over a 100 years! Our last major conflict was the Napoleonic War over 200 years ago.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Merkel will win comfortably the big challenge for the EU now is Italy next year where Beppe Grillo's 5* leads most polls without any Fascist baggage
Not as obvious immediately, but use it in conjunction with the map to see the actual vote details and the movement from primary to secondary in each area then each polling station within the area.
I can't believe there are some places with less than 100 voters.
It is indeed. Very blue, and not just in the metropolis.
At the risk of generating a reactionary comment and being accused of cheerleading for Le Pen, hover the cursor over it and look at the percentages in each district.
Look at the areas facing the Med and the English Channel, living in Corsica, bordering Belgium and in the doughnut around Paris.
Amidst the tidal wave of relief over the Macron victory, it's all too easy for people (who tend to have short memories and even shorter attention spans nowadays) to forget that neither Madame Le Pen, nor the problems which led to her rise, have gone away.
Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
I have never been so jealous of the French.
It will last a month, until the May landslide brings reality home
I suspect that then I will be even more envious of our nearest neighbour.
Perhaps Le Pen voters could move to Britain and Remain voters to France then we would all be happy?
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
The oldest enemy of Britain and especially England is France, we tend to do exactly the opposite of what they do eg when they had Mitterand we had Thatcher and Major, when they had Chirac and Sarkozy we had Blair and Brown, when they had Hollande and Macron we had Cameron and May
"Enemy" .......FFS man, we have been Allies against the "bad guys" for over a 100 years! Our last major conflict was the Napoleonic War over 200 years ago.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Did you reply to my offer to up our bet from £20 to £100?
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Hope not!
I'm thinking we may have to have our own En Marche in this country if the left want to get back to being relevant again. We'll what happens after June 8th, but if the Labour membership don't tell Corbyn where to go, it's time for Labour to split, set up a new political party, and let the Labour party taken over by the hard left die.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Quite a bit to come from Bouches de Rhone too isn't there? That will help the Le Pen %age
Yeah but I think alot from Toulouse as well.
Who will Marseille be for ? still some to come from there aswell.
Mixed, but the mix will help Le Pen.
Paris barely started still though.
I think he remaining areas will be more Macron than those already counted.. (Marseilles more Macron than the remainder of Bouches Du Rhone), it's possibly the most right wing big city in the whole of France though.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Hope not!
I'm thinking we may have to have our own En Marche in this country if the left want to get back to being relevant again. We'll what happens after June 8th, but if the Labour membership don't tell Corbyn where to go, it's time for Labour to split, set up a new political party, and let the Labour party taken over by the hard left die.
If Labour do as badly as predicted, I am sure Corbyn will go - he wants the Labour brand, but because it is strong - if the party splits and some British 'En March' tries to take its place and immediately takes along dozens of his MPs, all the work he's tried in his leadership will have been for naught.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
The oldest enemy of Britain and especially England is France, we tend to do exactly the opposite of what they do eg when they had Mitterand we had Thatcher and Major, when they had Chirac and Sarkozy we had Blair and Brown, when they had Hollande and Macron we had Cameron and May
"Enemy" .......FFS man, we have been Allies against the "bad guys" for over a 100 years! Our last major conflict was the Napoleonic War over 200 years ago.
Vive La France!
We last fought the French in Nov 42 in Operation Torch. There were significant casualties on both sides.
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Next.
Hartlepool too, surely.
Yep they'll keep deposit there but the Tories will take enough of the vote to win.
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
The oldest enemy of Britain and especially England is France, we tend to do exactly the opposite of what they do eg when they had Mitterand we had Thatcher and Major, when they had Chirac and Sarkozy we had Blair and Brown, when they had Hollande and Macron we had Cameron and May
"Enemy" .......FFS man, we have been Allies against the "bad guys" for over a 100 years! Our last major conflict was the Napoleonic War over 200 years ago.
Vive La France!
It was De Gaulle who vetoed UK entry into the EEC in the first place and in retrospect we should have listened to his advice! England and then the UK has fought more wars with France than any other nation, from the Norman conquest to the Hundred Years War, the Austrian and Spanish Wars of Succession, the Seven Years War, the US War of Independence to the Napoleonic Wars. I am a Francophile and indeed some of my ancestors were Huguenots but France has never really been an ally of Britain and the Brexit negotiations will continue that tradition!
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Next.
Hartlepool too, surely.
Yep they'll keep deposit there but the Tories will take enough of the vote to win.
Do you want to price up ukip under over 15% in Thurrock? Or Dagenham?
People won't care about this in Britain in the main, but perhaps could lead to a bit of a Lib Dem surge in London. Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Sadly I just don't think many people will even notice the french election, fewer still will be sufficiently affected to influence their vote.
It will alter the mood though. An economic liberal, social liberal, advocate of inclusion and unashamedly proud European is now in charge of our nearest neighbour.
I have never been so jealous of the French.
Liberalism in the French context is not the same as liberalism in the UK. There is very little tradition of classic liberalism in French politics. Don't assume that the same word means the same thing in a different context.
What I do find odd is that Macron is on record as saying that he does not think there is any such thing as French culture or even French art. A curious thing for a French politician to say. And how do you "include" people into a country if you do not think there is something for them to be included into.
A country is more than simply a geographical entity.
As Seamus Heaney put it in 2013:
“We are not simply a credit rating or an economy but a history and a culture, a human population rather than a statistical phenomenon.”
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Next.
Hartlepool too, surely.
Yep they'll keep deposit there but the Tories will take enough of the vote to win.
Do you want to price up ukip under over 15% in Thurrock? Or Dagenham?
No lol I think you're definitely on the right side of that bet :>
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Hope not!
I'm thinking we may have to have our own En Marche in this country if the left want to get back to being relevant again. We'll what happens after June 8th, but if the Labour membership don't tell Corbyn where to go, it's time for Labour to split, set up a new political party, and let the Labour party taken over by the hard left die.
If Labour do as badly as predicted, I am sure Corbyn will go - he wants the Labour brand, but because it is strong - if the party splits and some British 'En March' tries to take its place and immediately takes along dozens of his MPs, all the work he's tried in his leadership will have been for naught.
Hopefully. As per The Times, apparently, Milne will argue Corbyn should stay if he gets 30% - ridiculous. They know they can't win, they just want the Left in Britain to become a permanent protest movement. How pathetic. And Corbyn talks about 'justice.'
At CPAC he was talking about 'exciting elections in Europe this year.' It looks like none of them will actually go the way he wants them to when all is said and done.
Mark Stone of Sky who seems to support the EU just said that Macron's choice of 'ode to joy ' to walk to the stage was very strange as it would have angered as many as supported it.
Is this really going to unite France or prove to be divisive within the Country
Mark Stone of Sky who seems to support the EU just said that Macron's choice of 'ode to joy ' to walk to the stage was very strange as it would have angered as many as supported it.
Is this really going to unite France or prove to be divisive within the Country
Some of these alt-righters/Trumpers in America are not TOO happy with tonight's results.
That only increases my pleasure at Macron's victory even more.
Yep. Hilarious to see these alt-righters in meltdown. We've got our elections next month and the German elections coming in September. Let's hope the trend of sensible election results keeps going. Corbyn and his merry gang need to be roundly defeated, and his stupid tweet that doesn't even congratulate Macron tells you all you need to know about him. Hopefully UKIP's downtard trend will continue as well.
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
Will UKIP even keep a deposit anywhere?
Yes. Boston & Skegness, Professor Nuttall will bust your bet with @isam. People will know its safe to vote kipper there as Labour have less than zero chance there.
Next.
Hartlepool too, surely.
Yep they'll keep deposit there but the Tories will take enough of the vote to win.
Do you want to price up ukip under over 15% in Thurrock? Or Dagenham?
No lol I think you're definitely on the right side of that bet :>
@foxinsoxuk seems confident he is on the right side of it... but wont up the stakes. I will increase them by any amount he likes, and the offer is open to everybody else on the site
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Reminding people that Le Pen won over a third of the vote, and did a good deal better in some districts and amongst certain voter groups, doesn't constitute cheerleading. It is the prudent avoidance of hubris.
There have been ties the book has suffered, a couple of occasions badly, but it has never end so. Can't be unhappy even if £20 isn't quite enough to retire on.
Maybe. Farron is no Macron though.
Santé!
So the continuing drift up of Macron will continue way into the night.
Tbh those people probably voting Lib Dem anyway xD
https://twitter.com/ronanburtenshaw/status/861316730513219584
I have never been so jealous of the French.
On a personal level I don't particularly like Macron. But that's because he reminds me too much of the smooth but essentially vacuous investment bankers I've spent too much time with. But infinitely better than Le Pen.
I doubt France will reform in any meaningful way. Too many vested interests. And no real will to do so. (Ditto with the EU.) And "reform" in the French context means something quite different to what we might understand. France is still a statist top down country, which provides a very good life for those on the inside track but a shit life for anyone who isn't.
What's worrying is that a third (or more) of French voters did vote for Le Pen (double her father's vote) and that there may not be any serious analysis of why they did so and what might sensibly be done to alleviate their concerns.
"Phew! We won." is not sensible politics.
But too often it is the - complacent - response. The emphasis should be less on the welcome defeat of Le Pen and more on what needs to be done to get those voters on your side.
Voters are not an optional extra in a democracy.
As I put it in my article published last Sunday: " Populist – but toxic – parties provide an easy excuse for mainstream parties and less uncouth politicians to ignore difficult problems until they force themselves onto the national stage, with unpredictable consequences."
The test for Macron is whether he is willing and able to address the problems which led to someone like Le Pen getting as many votes as she has.
I hope he does because France is a country I love, which has been tormented by barbarians in recent years.
And now for a bad Sunday night pun: Macaron has taken the biscuit.
**.......just putting on my coat......**
Macron 63.1%
Le Pen 36.9%
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/07/world/europe/france-election-results-maps.html?_r=0
Wishing Merkel best of luck in Germany too.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/07/world/europe/france-election-results-maps.html?_r=0
Our last major conflict was the Napoleonic War over 200 years ago.
Vive La France!
http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/
Not as obvious immediately, but use it in conjunction with the map to see the actual vote details and the movement from primary to secondary in each area then each polling station within the area.
I can't believe there are some places with less than 100 voters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-39837963
Good night, everyone.
I'm thinking we may have to have our own En Marche in this country if the left want to get back to being relevant again. We'll what happens after June 8th, but if the Labour membership don't tell Corbyn where to go, it's time for Labour to split, set up a new political party, and let the Labour party taken over by the hard left die.
Next.
Paris barely started still though.
I think he remaining areas will be more Macron than those already counted.. (Marseilles more Macron than the remainder of Bouches Du Rhone), it's possibly the most right wing big city in the whole of France though.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/861320437363593216
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/6121052/Englands-Last-War-Against-France-Fighting-Vichy-1940-1942.html
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/861322265924861952
What I do find odd is that Macron is on record as saying that he does not think there is any such thing as French culture or even French art. A curious thing for a French politician to say. And how do you "include" people into a country if you do not think there is something for them to be included into.
A country is more than simply a geographical entity.
As Seamus Heaney put it in 2013:
“We are not simply a credit rating or an economy but a history and a culture, a human population rather than a statistical phenomenon.”
Surely that applies - in spades - to France?
9,484,723 votes 36.5%
Lets check how the next jump in numbers comes in
But don't tell anyone.
Does anyone know the percentage of the vote that positively voted for Macron
Macron's vote share v Corbyn's in a FPTP vote is a tight match up.
Centrist, supports the E.U.
Marine Le Pen
9,574,692 votes36.4%
208212 votes in for Macron
89969 for Le Pen
So 69.8% of the new mix.
Is this really going to unite France or prove to be divisive within the Country