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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is what happens when you believe your own press, she ended up punch drunk. Way beyond her talent level and more gubbings to come for sure. When will we see her run south with her tail between her legs.
    International Development Sec in waiting ! - Maybe TM will appoint her to the H of L !!
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Welcome to pb.com, Mr. Typo.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    calum said:

    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is what happens when you believe your own press, she ended up punch drunk. Way beyond her talent level and more gubbings to come for sure. When will we see her run south with her tail between her legs.
    International Development Sec in waiting ! - Maybe TM will appoint her to the H of L !!
    Could not be worse than Mone that is for sure.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Welcome to pb.com, Mr. Typo.


    It would be funnier if their name was Tpyo.

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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    Now not available :(
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 52,080

    I have been looking at West Bromwich East. Could be an interesting result once the votes are counted in June. Depending on boundary changes the seat was pretty close in 1992 & 1987.
    Might Tom Watson be in trouble?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bromwich_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

    He's standing for Labour. So, at the moment, that's a yes. What is going to make this election more competitive? It surely cannot go on like this for 7 weeks. Brits don't like that kind of cruelty. There will be a backlash, even if it is their own fault for voting for the stupid old coot. Twice.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,018

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    That LD price won't last more than a few seconds, so pile on..
    Got a pony on just before it was suspended.

    25/1 for Richmond Park - that is staggering...
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    rkrkrk said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
    That is crazy! SUSPd now though

    Lets hope they cut it to 16s!
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Norwich South looks interesting. Labour are very much favourites in the Betfair/Paddy market, but you could make a case for LibDems or the Greens here, or the Tories if the non-Tory vote splits three ways.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,035

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    Tories 2/5 in Clacton looks low odds value, Carswell will be campaigning/voting for them and he has some level of personal vote. Only challenger is UKIP who just don't have the votes.

    Simon Hughes to retake Bermondsey at longer than 1/2 is nice too.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    I have been looking at West Bromwich East. Could be an interesting result once the votes are counted in June. Depending on boundary changes the seat was pretty close in 1992 & 1987.
    Might Tom Watson be in trouble?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bromwich_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

    The demographics of the seat have probably changed quite a bit since 1992. Labour shouldn't have too much trouble there these days.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,414
    Mortimer said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    That LD price won't last more than a few seconds, so pile on..
    Got a pony on just before it was suspended.

    25/1 for Richmond Park - that is staggering...
    Rats. It is gone.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    Nats decided not to fight the election on their dreadful record of government in Scotland ? Probably wise.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    rkrkrk said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
    They're clueless ?
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    TGOHF said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    Now not available :(
    Managed to get £25 with them, and £20.85 with their owner, Paddy Power.

    They've mis-priced it, surely? Did they mean Richmond (Yorks)? I hope they honour it...
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    FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    murali_s said:

    MikeL said:

    She has to commit to tens of thousands.

    Because if she doesn't, the media will say target abandoned, she won't reduce immigration etc etc and it opens her up to massive attack.

    Which is why she also must stick to pensions triple lock.

    People on here remind me of cricket commentators who always say the captain should declare but when they were captain they didn't.

    It's so easy to say take a risk when you are not responsible. When you are in the hot seat it looks very different.

    One only needs to see how self-employed NICs blew up in the Government face. May cannot risk something similar on immigration or pensions - areas which are of much greater importance to far more people.

    Saying it and doing it are two different things.

    This will blow up in her face sometime soon. The masses who voted Brexit to keep Johnny Foreigner out will go ballistic!
    And when she's got a majority of 100 and seen off UKIP, who are they gonna complain too?
    The opposition under Corbyn?
    She can do what she likes at the moment.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 24,425
    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    Scots can't win battle shock !

    :-)
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Pulpstar said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
    They're clueless ?

    Probably forgot the by-election and did it on 2015 results.

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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    isam said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
    That is crazy! SUSPd now though

    Lets hope they cut it to 16s!
    Got £25 quid on. it's still a massive remain area that will still be pissed off about Heathrow surely?

    At least Zach was against it... New candidate​ will surely have to back government position on it?
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 16,127
    calum said:
    Mrs May has it easy in England, but not Scotland, so Ruth Davidson doesn't either. As long as Ms Davidson can attack Ms Sturgeon on her record in Scotland she is on firm ground. It gets much more difficult when she has to defend her party on policies she has no hand in and probably doesn't agree with anyway.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited April 2017

    TGOHF said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    Now not available :(
    Managed to get £25 with them, and £20.85 with their owner, Paddy Power.

    They've mis-priced it, surely? Did they mean Richmond (Yorks)? I hope they honour it...
    They priced up Richmond in Yorks so they cant try that excuse

    Maybe they used last GE result to price it up
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,035
    Pulpstar said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    25/1 sounds like value considering their MP is the incumbent. I'd expect more like 4/1
    I'm astounded by it. What's​ the rationale?
    They're clueless ?
    Clearly they used an automatic system to set the initial odds for a bunch of seats, working off the 2015 majorities and second placed party. Richmond Park was a 23k majority and no-one noticed the error.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149

    Mortimer said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    That LD price won't last more than a few seconds, so pile on..
    Got a pony on just before it was suspended.

    25/1 for Richmond Park - that is staggering...
    Rats. It is gone.
    The pattern with BF sportsbook today is that, for any potential LibDem target, the odds they put the seat up at are very attractive to punters and the odds quickly shorten. Punters would appear to be a lot more positive about the #libdemfightback than is the bookmaker.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,018
    On the sportsbook, any self respecting PB Tory NOT put a fiver on Con gain Bootle?
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    Labour at 2.1 in bermondsey and Southwark?
    Simon Hughes has had his day perhaps? London is the one place you'd expect Corbyn vote to hold up?
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,060
    Fenster said:

    murali_s said:

    MikeL said:

    She has to commit to tens of thousands.

    Because if she doesn't, the media will say target abandoned, she won't reduce immigration etc etc and it opens her up to massive attack.

    Which is why she also must stick to pensions triple lock.

    People on here remind me of cricket commentators who always say the captain should declare but when they were captain they didn't.

    It's so easy to say take a risk when you are not responsible. When you are in the hot seat it looks very different.

    One only needs to see how self-employed NICs blew up in the Government face. May cannot risk something similar on immigration or pensions - areas which are of much greater importance to far more people.

    Saying it and doing it are two different things.

    This will blow up in her face sometime soon. The masses who voted Brexit to keep Johnny Foreigner out will go ballistic!
    And when she's got a majority of 100 and seen off UKIP, who are they gonna complain too?
    The opposition under Corbyn?
    She can do what she likes at the moment.
    Well exactly - as I have been saying we are in one-party banana republic territory.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Yet bizarrely achieved for most of the last 50 years.
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    Mortimer said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    That LD price won't last more than a few seconds, so pile on..
    Got a pony on just before it was suspended.

    25/1 for Richmond Park - that is staggering...
    If the lib Dems do hold it... That error alone could cost them most of their profits?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    Wokingham
    Conservative @ 60/1
    Your Bets

    Win
    Single: Conservative @ 60/1
    1 line at £1.04 per line
    Total stake for this bet: £1.04
    Potential returns: £63.44

    ARF
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    60-1 Paddy Power Wokingham, pile on.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    murali_s said:

    Fenster said:

    murali_s said:

    MikeL said:

    She has to commit to tens of thousands.

    Because if she doesn't, the media will say target abandoned, she won't reduce immigration etc etc and it opens her up to massive attack.

    Which is why she also must stick to pensions triple lock.

    People on here remind me of cricket commentators who always say the captain should declare but when they were captain they didn't.

    It's so easy to say take a risk when you are not responsible. When you are in the hot seat it looks very different.

    One only needs to see how self-employed NICs blew up in the Government face. May cannot risk something similar on immigration or pensions - areas which are of much greater importance to far more people.

    Saying it and doing it are two different things.

    This will blow up in her face sometime soon. The masses who voted Brexit to keep Johnny Foreigner out will go ballistic!
    And when she's got a majority of 100 and seen off UKIP, who are they gonna complain too?
    The opposition under Corbyn?
    She can do what she likes at the moment.
    Well exactly - as I have been saying we are in one-party banana republic territory.
    TM should have waited until the polls were closer before calling a GE ?

    Not her fault that Labour have self harmed.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,274
    rkrkrk said:

    Labour at 2.1 in bermondsey and Southwark?
    Simon Hughes has had his day perhaps? London is the one place you'd expect Corbyn vote to hold up?

    Will Farron be asking Hughes to stand as 'The Straight Choice' again?
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    IanB2 said:

    Mortimer said:

    Congratulations to Betfair Sportsbook on having stolen a march on the rest of the bookmaking fraternity by having already posted up odds for hundreds of constituencies throughout the UK, whilst their rivals have yet to start - you've been well and truly outmanoeuvred on this occasion Shadsy!

    What a difference a few months make - in my neighbouring constituency of Richmond Park here in S.W. London, where Zac Goldsmith was toppled after forcing a by-election in December, the Tories are now 1/200 to recapture this seat from the LibDems who are on offer at 25/1, just ahead of Labour at 33/1.

    That LD price won't last more than a few seconds, so pile on..
    Got a pony on just before it was suspended.

    25/1 for Richmond Park - that is staggering...
    Rats. It is gone.
    The pattern with BF sportsbook today is that, for any potential LibDem target, the odds they put the seat up at are very attractive to punters and the odds quickly shorten. Punters would appear to be a lot more positive about the #libdemfightback than is the bookmaker.
    That appears to be partly true except that their odds on number of Lib Dem seats which favour the 20-29 seat band would justify shorter odds on individual seats , they cannot achieve 20-29 without winning the individual seats .
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    Pulpstar said:

    Wokingham
    Conservative @ 60/1
    Your Bets

    Win
    Single: Conservative @ 60/1
    1 line at £1.04 per line
    Total stake for this bet: £1.04
    Potential returns: £63.44

    ARF

    They let me have 7 pound fifty.
    That's John redwood isn't it?
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,274
    Pulpstar said:

    60-1 Paddy Power Wokingham, pile on.

    Pulpstar said:

    60-1 Paddy Power Wokingham, pile on.

    Someone thought it was Workington?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Can't find Richmond Park. Tories are 4/11 in Edgbaston.

    https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 49,213
    calum said:

    Bizarre twitter account !

    Clearly 'now is the time' for Whitehall to start the No campaign.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149
    I just managed to get 60/1 on the Tories winning Wokingham, before the market was suspended. On Betfair. How is that possible?
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    malcolmg said:


    He was a sneering whining twunt, well rid of him.

    D*rn it Malcolm - stop agreeing with me!!!!
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. JS, it was taken down, alas.

    Mr. Pulpstar, backed Con, Wokingham on Betfair (now down) rather than Paddypower, but many thanks :D
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    rkrkrk said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Wokingham
    Conservative @ 60/1
    Your Bets

    Win
    Single: Conservative @ 60/1
    1 line at £1.04 per line
    Total stake for this bet: £1.04
    Potential returns: £63.44

    ARF

    They let me have 7 pound fifty.
    That's John redwood isn't it?
    You lucky lucky man, yes it is.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    TGOHF said:

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    Nats decided not to fight the election on their dreadful record of government in Scotland ? Probably wise.
    LOL, they decided not to assist Tories as ever, luckily the Tories had their Labour little helpers.
    We shall see how bad they are as per last 10 years reality will dumfound your silly nonsense.
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    Sometimes and Frome!
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited April 2017
    IanB2 said:

    I just managed to get 60/1 on the Tories winning Wokingham, before the market was suspended. On Betfair. How is that possible?

    That looks like a palpable error.. everyone else is 33/1
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,035
    Wokingham feels too much like a palp to me, everyone else is 33/1 - surely it's a typo and Tories should be 1/60? Almost feels like a bigger risk of account being closed than winning money for old rope.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
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    IanB2 said:

    I just managed to get 60/1 on the Tories winning Wokingham, before the market was suspended. On Betfair. How is that possible?

    Flipping heck. Some pillock at PaddyPower/Betfair ain't getting their bonus this year.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149
    Quincel said:

    Wokingham feels too much like a palp to me, everyone else is 33/1 - surely it's a typo and Tories should be 1/60? Almost feels like a bigger risk of account being closed than winning money for old rope.

    Everyone else is available at 33/1 and the Tory 60/1 is suspended now.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. Isam, I was confused by that, had to go check it wasn't the Speaker's constituency.

    Mr. B2, the glorious gods Puntor and Bettor have blessed us today through their emissary Mr. Pulpstar.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Re Dawn Butler

    not only did she say

    “This election is Theresa May trying to rig democracy in our country. "

    Dawn voted for the election yesterday. First car crash interview of the campaign (says Guido)…
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Betfair seat markets are bonkers - not priced up at all well.

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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    junius said:

    I am of no party political persuasion. Can anyone tell me the differences between 'fake news', 'political spin' - and 'subterfuge' ?

    Seriously, I'll have a try for you (at least this is how I understand the terms):

    Fake news is an industry based upon making up outrageous headlines and stories that people will click on and so generate revenues for the creator of the fake news

    Subterfuge is underhand practices by a player (a national party or a third power, say Russia) to alter the outcome of an election by non-legal means

    Spin is putting the best face on news that is not otherwise to your advantage, or hyping something that is mildly so.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    No QT tonight, showing a programme about the menopause instead!
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149
    I only got the minimum on before I went back for more, to find it was suspended. But the potential profit of £120 is sitting there in my open bets list, surely they will have to honour it?

    Knowing my luck the LibDem surge will overwhelm Wokingham and it'll be a losing bet.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 118,281
    Le Pen demands removal of EU flag before TV interview
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58f77093c36188901c8b4593/amp
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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    Are the BetFair seat markets down now? I can't find them.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    edited April 2017
    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
    They're reporting independent research:

    More than half a million Scottish jobs – around one in four – depend on Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK, new research published today reveals. That is more than four times as many jobs supported by EU trade.

    The figures from the Fraser of Allander Institute show:

    around 530,000 jobs in Scotland (nearly one in four of all jobs) are supported by demand for Scottish goods and services from the rest of the UK;

    more than 175,000 jobs in Scotland are supported by export demand from the rest of the world; and

    around 125,000 jobs in Scotland supported by export demand from the rest of the EU.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-market-supports-half-a-million-scottish-jobs

    So, Mrs Sturgeon, what first attracted you to the market that supports 125,000 jobs at the expense of the one that supports 530,000 jobs?
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
    Why are they chucking them out , they are providing employment and paying taxes in a sparsely populated part of the country. Shameful, any old excuse will do.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    rkrkrk said:

    Labour at 2.1 in bermondsey and Southwark?
    Simon Hughes has had his day perhaps? London is the one place you'd expect Corbyn vote to hold up?

    I think you could be right.

    Bermondsey and Southwark and Hornsey and Wood Green may have strong Remain votes but they have little else in common with somewhere like Richmond.

    I'd expect Labour to carry on hoovering up in many BAME areas, especially with large amounts of social housing and depriavtion.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. Flashman (deceased), on the contrary, the Betfair sportsbook odds are priced to perfection.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149
    Essexit said:

    Are the BetFair seat markets down now? I can't find them.

    On sportsbook, not exchange, and under UK politics, not the general election.
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    IanB2 said:

    I only got the minimum on before I went back for more, to find it was suspended. But the potential profit of £120 is sitting there in my open bets list, surely they will have to honour it?

    Knowing my luck the LibDem surge will overwhelm Wokingham and it'll be a losing bet.

    I got 33-1 ontories holding somerton and froome
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    isam said:

    No QT tonight, showing a programme about the menopause instead!

    Oh. Not where we live. Perhaps they've cleared the schedules for local programming? We get a live debate for the Cambridgeshire metro mayor.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,627
    IanB2 said:

    I only got the minimum on before I went back for more, to find it was suspended. But the potential profit of £120 is sitting there in my open bets list, surely they will have to honour it?

    My question too - Wokingham too late for me, but I got on Woking at 60/1, when now it is showing 1/200
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    Norwich South looks interesting. Labour are very much favourites in the Betfair/Paddy market, but you could make a case for LibDems or the Greens here, or the Tories if the non-Tory vote splits three ways.

    Clive Lewis looks strong as the the LAB incumbent.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    isam said:

    No QT tonight, showing a programme about the menopause instead!

    so more interesting than QT then
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,896
    edited April 2017

    Mr. Putney, are the Lib Dems value, in your view, at 26 to retain Richmond?

    Do bears defaecate in the woods Morris?

    I can only imagine that in their mad dash to be first with constitiuency odds, Betfair completely overlooked the small matter of the by-election in Richmond Park last December and were basing their odds solely on Zac Goldsmith's previous majority of 23,000+.

    No doubt Shadsy is sitting back as I type this chucklin away, with the words "Act in haste, repent at leisure" passing his lips.

    Meanwhile Betfair appear to have gone into panic mode, with all their alphabetically listed constituency odds between Knowsley and Salisbury having inexplicably disappeared!
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Paddy Power- South Holland and The Deepings

    Greens 1/200

    A fav to take on?
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554

    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
    They're reporting independent research:

    More than half a million Scottish jobs – around one in four – depend on Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK, new research published today reveals. That is more than four times as many jobs supported by EU trade.

    The figures from the Fraser of Allander Institute show:

    around 530,000 jobs in Scotland (nearly one in four of all jobs) are supported by demand for Scottish goods and services from the rest of the UK;

    more than 175,000 jobs in Scotland are supported by export demand from the rest of the world; and

    around 125,000 jobs in Scotland supported by export demand from the rest of the EU.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-market-supports-half-a-million-scottish-jobs

    So, Mrs Sturgeon, what first attracted you to the market that supports 125,000 jobs at the expense of the one that supports 530,000 jobs?
    Yawn, those jobs will not disappear , usual gobshite from unionists
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. Essexit, also, some constituencies are missing (chunk from L to R, I think).
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    FangsyFangsy Posts: 28
    I suspect Betfair will void all these bets as palpable errors, so don't spend your winnings yet lads...
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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    IanB2 said:

    Essexit said:

    Are the BetFair seat markets down now? I can't find them.

    On sportsbook, not exchange, and under UK politics, not the general election.
    Much obliged.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. Putney, I put on a pittance, and a little on the Conservatives to win Wokingham at 61 as well.

    All being well, my Betfair account will look a little less anaemic after the election.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
    Why are they chucking them out , they are providing employment and paying taxes in a sparsely populated part of the country. Shameful, any old excuse will do.
    Because they didn't meet the requirements (which they would have known in advance) of the visa they applied for, at a guess.

    There is an argument - as in Australia - where visas are tied to particular geographic areas - why don't the SNP propose that, rather than just whine endlessly?

    Of course we'll get 'I couldn't stay in the Highlands because of the midges so I had to move to Edinburgh and now they want to deport me' sob stories - but that's life!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    isam said:

    Paddy Power- South Holland and The Deepings

    Greens 1/200

    A fav to take on?

    Are the Conservatives value at 25-1 ?
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996
    I think labour in Bristol west at 2.87 might be a good shot.
    The one party they really shouldn't lose votes to is the greens!
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Fangsy said:

    I suspect Betfair will void all these bets as palpable errors, so don't spend your winnings yet lads...

    Plus all your accounts will be marked as "rats"
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,160
    Mr. Fangsy, it'd be pretty low to do so. The events aren't void, the situation of the election has not changed, they've simply priced them wrong.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
    They're reporting independent research:

    More than half a million Scottish jobs – around one in four – depend on Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK, new research published today reveals. That is more than four times as many jobs supported by EU trade.

    The figures from the Fraser of Allander Institute show:

    around 530,000 jobs in Scotland (nearly one in four of all jobs) are supported by demand for Scottish goods and services from the rest of the UK;

    more than 175,000 jobs in Scotland are supported by export demand from the rest of the world; and

    around 125,000 jobs in Scotland supported by export demand from the rest of the EU.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-market-supports-half-a-million-scottish-jobs

    So, Mrs Sturgeon, what first attracted you to the market that supports 125,000 jobs at the expense of the one that supports 530,000 jobs?
    Yawn, those jobs will not disappear , usual gobshite from unionists
    But they will disappear if we leave the EU......okaaaaay.....
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
    They're reporting independent research:

    More than half a million Scottish jobs – around one in four – depend on Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK, new research published today reveals. That is more than four times as many jobs supported by EU trade.

    The figures from the Fraser of Allander Institute show:

    around 530,000 jobs in Scotland (nearly one in four of all jobs) are supported by demand for Scottish goods and services from the rest of the UK;

    more than 175,000 jobs in Scotland are supported by export demand from the rest of the world; and

    around 125,000 jobs in Scotland supported by export demand from the rest of the EU.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-market-supports-half-a-million-scottish-jobs

    So, Mrs Sturgeon, what first attracted you to the market that supports 125,000 jobs at the expense of the one that supports 530,000 jobs?
    Yawn, those jobs will not disappear , usual gobshite from unionists
    Ha Ha Ha , independent research from diddy mundell, the only Tory in the country...............how stupid are Tories
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,627
    The Dawn Butler comment is the type where you finally get an idea whether an MP is truly, genuinely stupid, or so partisan they will say anything, however foolish - that is to say, still very stupid.

    I don't like to get so personal, but if she meant what she said, she's just plain thick, and I say that without looking at her details, where I am sure she is better educated and more successful than me (she's an MP for starters).
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282
    isam said:

    Fangsy said:

    I suspect Betfair will void all these bets as palpable errors, so don't spend your winnings yet lads...

    Plus all your accounts will be marked as "rats"
    My account has been chalked up for yonks.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149

    Mr. Essexit, also, some constituencies are missing (chunk from L to R, I think).

    They are posting them in batches, presumably as soon as their (soon to be unemployed) backroom boys have worked out the prices.

    Wokingham Tories are still greyed out; it is taking them a while to work out that odds are the obvious 1/200 that the Tories are priced at in almost all other shire seats.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Pulpstar said:

    60-1 Paddy Power Wokingham, pile on.

    That's suspended already :(
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 61,054
    edited April 2017
    ITV Wales highlighting problems for Welsh labour as the First Minister gets a poor reception on the doors in traditional heartlands. If this report is anything like the opinions in Wales labour are in for a very bad result in the GE in Wales.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    calum said:
    That is how they waste our money , you could not make it up.
    They're reporting independent research:

    More than half a million Scottish jobs – around one in four – depend on Scotland’s trade with the rest of the UK, new research published today reveals. That is more than four times as many jobs supported by EU trade.

    The figures from the Fraser of Allander Institute show:

    around 530,000 jobs in Scotland (nearly one in four of all jobs) are supported by demand for Scottish goods and services from the rest of the UK;

    more than 175,000 jobs in Scotland are supported by export demand from the rest of the world; and

    around 125,000 jobs in Scotland supported by export demand from the rest of the EU.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-market-supports-half-a-million-scottish-jobs

    So, Mrs Sturgeon, what first attracted you to the market that supports 125,000 jobs at the expense of the one that supports 530,000 jobs?
    Yawn, those jobs will not disappear , usual gobshite from unionists
    Ha Ha Ha , independent research from diddy mundell, the only Tory in the country...............how stupid are Tories
    University of Strathclyde:

    https://www.sbs.strath.ac.uk/economics/fraser/20170420/Exports-and-Employment-Scotland.pdf
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    edited April 2017

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
    Why are they chucking them out , they are providing employment and paying taxes in a sparsely populated part of the country. Shameful, any old excuse will do.
    Because they didn't meet the requirements (which they would have known in advance) of the visa they applied for, at a guess.

    There is an argument - as in Australia - where visas are tied to particular geographic areas - why don't the SNP propose that, rather than just whine endlessly?

    Of course we'll get 'I couldn't stay in the Highlands because of the midges so I had to move to Edinburgh and now they want to deport me' sob stories - but that's life!
    So now SNP can use reserved UK powers. Home Office in London make those decisions. Are you for real.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,282

    Pulpstar said:

    60-1 Paddy Power Wokingham, pile on.

    That's suspended already :(
    The half life of these prices will be about a nanosecond.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,627
    Fangsy said:

    I suspect Betfair will void all these bets as palpable errors, so don't spend your winnings yet lads...

    Aww - I got a fiver on at 61/1.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,097
    edited April 2017
    Off for three days to accompany my son on a U13 rugby tour. Good grief. Wish me luck. I need it.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 48,149
    It'll be interesting to see. I still wonder whether I would have had time to enter and submit a larger bet, or whether fiddling around with the bet screen would have lost the opportunity. I was back a few seconds later for more and it was already unavailable.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
    Why are they chucking them out , they are providing employment and paying taxes in a sparsely populated part of the country. Shameful, any old excuse will do.
    Because they didn't meet the requirements (which they would have known in advance) of the visa they applied for, at a guess.

    There is an argument - as in Australia - where visas are tied to particular geographic areas - why don't the SNP propose that, rather than just whine endlessly?

    Of course we'll get 'I couldn't stay in the Highlands because of the midges so I had to move to Edinburgh and now they want to deport me' sob stories - but that's life!
    So now SNP can use reserved UK powers. Home Office in London make those decisions. Are you for real.
    Struggling with the meaning of the word "propose", malc?
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Jonathan said:

    Off for three days to accompany my son on a U13 rugby tour. Good grief. Wish me luck.

    Enjoy

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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,996

    Mr. Fangsy, it'd be pretty low to do so. The events aren't void, the situation of the election has not changed, they've simply priced them wrong.

    Shall we start a campaign group? All bets to be honoured.

    I got stung by them keeping up a market on house elections after those elections had happebed when i thought they were talking about next election cycle.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,101
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Here is your Tory UK government for you. Wonder why SNP did not use their powers.....oh wait reserved like everything else
    Canadian family set for deportation from Highlands home after losing Home Office battle
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593

    They've been legally resident for 9 years.....why didn't they apply for indefinite leave to remain?
    Why are they chucking them out , they are providing employment and paying taxes in a sparsely populated part of the country. Shameful, any old excuse will do.
    Because they didn't meet the requirements (which they would have known in advance) of the visa they applied for, at a guess.

    There is an argument - as in Australia - where visas are tied to particular geographic areas - why don't the SNP propose that, rather than just whine endlessly?

    Of course we'll get 'I couldn't stay in the Highlands because of the midges so I had to move to Edinburgh and now they want to deport me' sob stories - but that's life!
    So now SNP can use reserved UK powers. Home Office in London make those decisions. Are you for real.
    The SNP won't even use all the powers devolved to them - are they for real?
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,554
    kle4 said:

    The Dawn Butler comment is the type where you finally get an idea whether an MP is truly, genuinely stupid, or so partisan they will say anything, however foolish - that is to say, still very stupid.

    I don't like to get so personal, but if she meant what she said, she's just plain thick, and I say that without looking at her details, where I am sure she is better educated and more successful than me (she's an MP for starters).

    kle , you kid yourself if you think being an MP means they must have any brain cells at all. Most are thicker than mince and twice as stupid.
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