I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Government should be less concerned with cycling (and I say this as a regular cyclist) and more concerned with housing.
This is not rocket science. The but...but...butting of the progressives on here explains why they're so often on the wrong side of results...
Graceless backtracking.
Of course housing is more important. But I cited cycling schemes as a very visible sign of metro mayors, and you responded with snide remarks about Remainers.
Are you really so intent of making an enemy of your fellow countrymen?
Astonishingly spending on cycling schemes and housing developments are not mutually exclusive.
Government should be less concerned with cycling (and I say this as a regular cyclist) and more concerned with housing.
This is not rocket science. The but...but...butting of the progressives on here explains why they're so often on the wrong side of results...
Graceless backtracking.
Of course housing is more important. But I cited cycling schemes as a very visible sign of metro mayors, and you responded with snide remarks about Remainers.
Are you really so intent of making an enemy of your fellow countrymen?
Astonishingly spending on cycling schemes and housing developments are not mutually exclusive.
Except they draw from the same limited pot of money.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Attacks were far more frequent, but mostly confined to Northern Ireland.
Not all countries have several cities in the same league as one another. The dominance of a single city may have been more or less over time, but while it is not common particularly in larger countries, it isn't unique for one in particular to be dominant either. I'm not saying work should not take place to try to empower and enrich other places, though as a market town in a rural area dweller, it is not on my list of priorities, but I remain to be convinced it is as urgent a problem as it sometimes is made out to be, and not at all because I am a fan of London, as I very much am not a fan of cities - too many people for my liking.
No-one needs safe spaces when it comes to discussion.
They don't need them, or deserve them, but many people's histrionic reactions designed to shut down or divert attention, to comments and topics they do not like, particularly though not universally on the internet, shows many people think they need them.
Constantly amazed that those who keep calling election results wrong, or ending up on the losing side of them, won't take the friendly advice of those of us who seem to be more in tune with the public.
How would any of us aspire to be a pundit one day if we allowed calling results wrong to dent our confidence? Like a shark, you must only move forward.
Me, I'm about 50-50 at the monent. USA wrong, Brexit right.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
What has Merkel done! Accepting a number of migrants that can be integrated is one thing. But 1 million from a completely different culture. Wtf there is zero chance of them being integrated simply too many of them, whether this was by a recent migrant or not my point stands. What a disaster.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Also a lot of IRA explosions targeted property, rather than life. They could have killed a lot more than they did otherwise.
As soon as Omagh and McCarthy showed that had changed, public opinion in Ireland shifted against them and they were forced to wind down their campaigns.
Recent Islamic terrorism however has been all about killing as many people as possible.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Causing as much death as possible seems to be the aim. The IRA had certain political aims and carefully calibrated the balance between showing how lethal they could be and not going so over the top that the reaction would set their cause back. This didn't always work of course and it didn't make them in any sense "better" terrorists than today's lot. It was simply a consequence of how they sought to achieve their aims. Today's terrorists make a different calculation, that's all.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
Didn't we used to say 1/4 of the Earth was rightfully ours? How'd that turn out?
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
Didn't we used to say 1/4 of the Earth was rightfully ours? How'd that turn out?
All of it was rightfully ours, we were generous at allowing 3/4 to everyone else
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Causing as much death as possible seems to be the aim. The IRA had certain political aims and carefully calibrated the balance between showing how lethal they could be and not going so over the top that the reaction would set their cause back. This didn't always work of course and it didn't make them in any sense "better" terrorists than today's lot. It was simply a consequence of how they sought to achieve their aims. Today's terrorists make a different calculation, that's all.
I don't know, I think Islamic terrorists are far more barbaric than the IRA.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
Didn't we used to say 1/4 of the Earth was rightfully ours? How'd that turn out?
All of it was rightfully ours, we were generous at allowing 3/4 to everyone else
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
The absolute worst must be estate agents. Forever inventing fictitious areas or moving places into a neighbouring more desirable area.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Having witnessed a series of community governance reviews firsthand, it's my view that residents are some of the worst people for trying to establish what is and is not logically part of an area.
Indeed. The excitable parochial voices drown out the vast majority who are indifferent/mildly pro.
I've seen a few comments re whether this is like when the IRA were more active and stating either things mainly happened in NI or warnings were given. Firstly although of course most murders were in NI there were significant attacks on the mainland ¨warnings if given were usually vague or as at Manchester designed to send people into the path of the bomb ¨if you are under about 40 years old you probably have little idea just what living in the cold war in a bankrupt country with frequent terrorism was like - it was pretty fun as far as I remember but in terms of existential angst easily the equal of today
If that vote is allowed, definitely the most unusual candidate to get a vote in the electoral college, also joint first woman and first Native American.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Moral comparisons aside, giving warnings before a bomb attack and the sort of thing that has probably happened in Berlin are two rather different things.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Causing as much death as possible seems to be the aim. The IRA had certain political aims and carefully calibrated the balance between showing how lethal they could be and not going so over the top that the reaction would set their cause back. This didn't always work of course and it didn't make them in any sense "better" terrorists than today's lot. It was simply a consequence of how they sought to achieve their aims. Today's terrorists make a different calculation, that's all.
I don't know, I think Islamic terrorists are far more barbaric than the IRA.
Oh yes they are barbaric. Theirs is a cruelty which is pure evil.
But the IRA were pretty cruel too: kneecappings, dragging mothers out from their homes in front of their children before killing them, planting bombs which killed children, shooting dead a baby in its mother's arms etc. I just didn't want to suggest that the IRA were somehow not evil bastards just because they didn't go in for the sort of gruesome viciousness IS seems to specialize in.
In the Seventies, PIRA was as vicious as ISIS (so were their loyalist enemies). They were perfectly happy to let off no-warning car bombs in shopping centres.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Causing as much death as possible seems to be the aim. The IRA had certain political aims and carefully calibrated the balance between showing how lethal they could be and not going so over the top that the reaction would set their cause back. This didn't always work of course and it didn't make them in any sense "better" terrorists than today's lot. It was simply a consequence of how they sought to achieve their aims. Today's terrorists make a different calculation, that's all.
I don't know, I think Islamic terrorists are far more barbaric than the IRA.
Oh yes they are barbaric. Theirs is a cruelty which is pure evil.
But the IRA were pretty cruel too: kneecappings, dragging mothers out from their homes in front of their children before killing them, planting bombs which killed children, shooting dead a baby in its mother's arms etc. I just didn't want to suggest that the IRA were somehow not evil bastards just because they didn't go in for the sort of gruesome viciousness IS seems to specialize in.
OK, I take back what I said- I clearly don't know enough about what the IRA did
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Gateshead Borough isn't a town. It's in and of itself an amalgamation of several 'towns' created in the 1970s. It should never have existed as it is - as its many settlements are in any case functional satellites and suburbs of Newcastle. Only pathetic local parochialism (cheifly from councillors) has stopped it merging. It should be forced to.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
The degree of 'sense' being used is entirely irrelevant. It is an attempt to destroy England.
if you are under about 40 years old you probably have little idea just what living in the cold war in a bankrupt country with frequent terrorism was like - it was pretty fun as far as I remember but in terms of existential angst easily the equal of today
Indeed there is absolutely no comparison with any terrorism and thinking that the latest super power confrontation might kick off WW III and we'd all be dead within a few minutes.
IIRC the government's main planning scenario for a Soviet attack was something nuts like 15 million dead in the first few hours, and another 30 million over a couple of weeks.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
The degree of 'sense' being used is entirely irrelevant. It is an attempt to destroy England.
Regional parliaments may be that, but I don't get that sense from regional mayors (they need a better name, IMO) - just that its a bloody poor idea.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
The degree of 'sense' being used is entirely irrelevant. It is an attempt to destroy England.
Utter hyperbolic garbage. Was giving London devolution an 'attempt to destroy England'? Why should Gtr London have a mayoral system and not Gtr Manchester?
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Gateshead Borough isn't a town. It's in and of itself an amalgamation of several 'towns' created in the 1970s. It should never have existed as it is - as its many settlements are in any case functional satellites and suburbs of Newcastle. Only pathetic local parochialism (cheifly from councillors) has stopped it merging. It should be forced to.
I've been to the Birmingham German Christmas Market a few times and apparently they put measures in place there to prevent this type of attack. I wonder if they also did so in Berlin.
Was it like this under the IRA, or are things worse? Very depressing, either way.
Warnings were usually - though not invariably - given.
Yes, that was a small crumb of comfort. It appears terrorists today don't have the same scruples.
Causing as much death as possible seems to be the aim. The IRA had certain political aims and carefully calibrated the balance between showing how lethal they could be and not going so over the top that the reaction would set their cause back. This didn't always work of course and it didn't make them in any sense "better" terrorists than today's lot. It was simply a consequence of how they sought to achieve their aims. Today's terrorists make a different calculation, that's all.
I don't know, I think Islamic terrorists are far more barbaric than the IRA.
Oh yes they are barbaric. Theirs is a cruelty which is pure evil.
But the IRA were pretty cruel too: kneecappings, dragging mothers out from their homes in front of their children before killing them, planting bombs which killed children, shooting dead a baby in its mother's arms etc. I just didn't want to suggest that the IRA were somehow not evil bastards just because they didn't go in for the sort of gruesome viciousness IS seems to specialize in.
OK, I take back what I said- I clearly don't know enough about what the IRA did
It's one reason why those of us who remember and lived through the IRA's campaign are so appalled at (a)Corbyn's and McDonnell's association with the IRA; and (b) their dishonest attempts now to whitewash what it is they were actually doing. They were on the side of people who did these things and more.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Gateshead Borough isn't a town. It's in and of itself an amalgamation of several 'towns' created in the 1970s. It should never have existed as it is - as its many settlements are in any case functional satellites and suburbs of Newcastle. Only pathetic local parochialism (cheifly from councillors) has stopped it merging. It should be forced to.
Well, there was always a historic division: the border betweeen Northumberland and County Durham was the river Tyne.
I agree with you though. Gateshead is a suburb of Newcastle.
Telegraph reporting that Germany's N24 TV station say that "at least" nine are dead, including passenger in lorry. One man has been apprehended. Not a good day.
They wouldn't need specific intelligence to realise the risk given what happened in Nice.
That's true but there have been reports of similar barriers at other Christmas markets in the last few weeks. So it could be precaution and intelligence.
Anyone who seriously thinks that Salford isn't rightfully part of Manchester and Gateshead part of Newcastle should just look at a map.
Rightfully part of? Surey that's a matter for the residents of those towns.
Gateshead Borough isn't a town. It's in and of itself an amalgamation of several 'towns' created in the 1970s. It should never have existed as it is - as its many settlements are in any case functional satellites and suburbs of Newcastle. Only pathetic local parochialism (cheifly from councillors) has stopped it merging. It should be forced to.
So much for democracy.
On the ground reality of settlements can be vastly different from what is currently labelled as such (I don't know the areas in question), and resistance to recognizing that can be justified, particularly if no benefit is accrued from changing it (eg, if there is no improvement made by doing so, there's no harm sticking with the status quo), but like many things planning related (or at least adjacent) a lot of the time of residents or local residents have a justified point, it is entirely incidental as the same points would have been made justified or not. Lone inspectors can overrule local representative decision makers on planning matters precisely because merely doing what local people want may miss the bigger picture or be unreasonable; the problem with many of the metro mayor and devolution proposals and amalgamation ideas, is that in principle I would accept much more readily that things could be improved by imposing new arrangements which would face local opposition, but its done in such a haphazard way that local opposition leans more on the justified scale than not, at present, in many instances.
OK, I take back what I said- I clearly don't know enough about what the IRA did
There are qualitative differences between the likes of ISIS and the republican and unionist terrorists in Norther Ireland, but they were for their time the worst in Europe and more than wicked enough to be beyond any attempt to mitigate what they did.
Ah yes, our short but ill-fated attempt at direct military rule. Like many, Cromwell learned that parliaments are great, but they constantly get in the way as well.
Another probable terror attack in the capital of Germany on the day the Russian ambassador to Turkey is shot dead by a Turkish police officer in front of cameras. 2016 really has been a mad year.
On the subject of elected mayors, the recent thread about Burnham was interesting. Whilst technically this should be in the bag for him, the 1/6 is bound to lengthen in the run up to the election. He is an archetypal career politician, and he failed to win the labour leadership in 2015, and his campaign is starting to look a bit cringeworthy: he is running the whole 'people are fed up with politicians' line and inviting people to write his own manifesto, which is bound to ultimately end up either as a sham where people are let down (most likely) or a manifesto that represents the views of people who came forward to get involved, inevitably left wing activists who are far removed from the reality of urban politics. Nothing is in the bag for him, and he has to straggle the impossible leave vs remain tightrope, being pulled one way by an urban core of activists against the voters on the other.
I was in that market a couple of years ago. It was nice, if a little quieter than some of the others, and the traders were very tolerant of my broken German.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
The degree of 'sense' being used is entirely irrelevant. It is an attempt to destroy England.
Regional parliaments may be that, but I don't get that sense from regional mayors (they need a better name, IMO) - just that its a bloody poor idea.
It's worked extremely well for London. Why is it then a bad idea for Manchester or Liverpool? Bizarre logic.
Ah yes, our short but ill-fated attempt at direct military rule. Like many, Cromwell learned that parliaments are great, but they constantly get in the way as well.
"They clamped down on what they considered to be rowdy behaviour (such as heavy drinking, music, dancing and fairs). They even tried to stop Christmas celebrations."
Now that's topical, Puritans where against Christmas, oh the irony haha.
A terrible way to end a 2016 that's been fairly horrible for me personally, and very disruptive for the country and the world.
Described as a co-driver in some reports.
Sorry to hear that you've had a bad year. I hope 2017 will be better for your personally.
EDITED: And remember the year is not yet over. Think of all those NY Eve celebrations. The authorities must be having conniptions at the thought of policing those.
Actually he is right. The issue in going fully federal is that England is too large *relative* to its parent entity, the U.K. Any English parliament would therefore be either too powerful - delegitimising Westminster - or an expensive talking shop.
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
The degree of 'sense' being used is entirely irrelevant. It is an attempt to destroy England.
Regional parliaments may be that, but I don't get that sense from regional mayors (they need a better name, IMO) - just that its a bloody poor idea.
It's worked extremely well for London. Why is it then a bad idea for Manchester or Liverpool? Bizarre logic.
Only if you treat all situations equally and ignore that my point was about the whole scheme not specific examples, which strikes me as even more bizarre logic! Manchester and Liverpool seem among the more sensible ones, actually, but the approach in other areas, cobbled together, I have yet to be convinced make much sense, and therefore add unnecessary confusion to an already over complicated system.
Angela Merkel should go down as the worst Chancellor in modern German history. Inter alia, her intransigence and stupidity on Free Movement (and her idiocy on Syrian migrants) led directly to Brexit.
I find it almost impossible to imagine that they will elect her again.
Angela Merkel should go down as the worst Chancellor in modern German history. Inter alia, her intransigence and stupidity on Free Movement (and her idiocy on Syrian migrants) led directly to Brexit.
She made the Eurozone a German Empire though. And she would probably remain Chancellor for life if she chooses.
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Edit: That would seem to invalidate that hope of some tiny mitigation to the tragedy.
As against that, there's no reason to think 2017 will offer geopolitical improvements.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/zurich-shooting-latest-islamic-centre-three-people-shot-injured-police-a7485111.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049400/The-undercover-cop-assassin-special-forces-officer-22-gunned-Russian-ambassador-meant-protect.html
https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/810937809540435969
https://twitter.com/RobSchneider/status/810794651640696832
They don't need them, or deserve them, but many people's histrionic reactions designed to shut down or divert attention, to comments and topics they do not like, particularly though not universally on the internet, shows many people think they need them.
Edit: my bad, the gender is not assumed. Phew!
How would any of us aspire to be a pundit one day if we allowed calling results wrong to dent our confidence? Like a shark, you must only move forward.
Me, I'm about 50-50 at the monent. USA wrong, Brexit right.
My knowledge of horses is so poor I have to assume this metaphor passes muster.
How terribly sad. RIP to the dead (inadequate as that sounds).
The only way to square the circle is regional devolution within England.
There seems/seemed little appetite for devolution to the regions. So let's try metros and counties.
Osborne's initiatives are a tiny step in the right direction.
It might have been, had it been done with any amount of sense (which is not necessarily Osborne's fault, given the lukewarm or varied reaction from regions), but the piecemeal nature of it and lack of clarity of who gets what means it will only add confusion.
As soon as Omagh and McCarthy showed that had changed, public opinion in Ireland shifted against them and they were forced to wind down their campaigns.
Recent Islamic terrorism however has been all about killing as many people as possible.
https://twitter.com/komonews/status/810943683298082816
So that's minus 4 electors for Hillary, a last desperate effort to stop Trump backfires as usual.
I think four is already a record for faithless electors, incidentally.
Edit:
https://twitter.com/Pleased2CU/status/810946046629068800
All 5 where Sanders people who publicly said they wouldn't vote Hillary even if she won.
So much for party unity.
https://www.facebook.com/faith.s.eagle
If that vote is allowed, definitely the most unusual candidate to get a vote in the electoral college, also joint first woman and first Native American.
But the IRA were pretty cruel too: kneecappings, dragging mothers out from their homes in front of their children before killing them, planting bombs which killed children, shooting dead a baby in its mother's arms etc. I just didn't want to suggest that the IRA were somehow not evil bastards just because they didn't go in for the sort of gruesome viciousness IS seems to specialize in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek
twitter.com/joannetallis/status/810946885787811840
IIRC the government's main planning scenario for a Soviet attack was something nuts like 15 million dead in the first few hours, and another 30 million over a couple of weeks.
Heath created the metropolitan counties, Avon, Cleveland etc.
Thatcher got rid of the extra layer of government.
Osborne is yet again showing his Heathite tendencies.
So do any PB Tories wish to show they are Heathite or Thatcherite ?
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/810940214168395777
I agree with you though. Gateshead is a suburb of Newcastle.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/19/lorry-ploughs-crowd-christmas-market-berlin/.
Also about parties being over apart from the vomiting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_the_Major-Generals
Absolutely horrific.
Government saying to Berliners to stay at home
2016 really has been a mad year.
You can't get rid of every object that can be a lethal weapon, but you can try to keep those who would use them as lethal weapons, out of the country.
A terrible way to end a 2016 that's been fairly horrible for me personally, and very disruptive for the country and the world.
Now that's topical, Puritans where against Christmas, oh the irony haha.
Sorry to hear that you've had a bad year. I hope 2017 will be better for your personally.
EDITED: And remember the year is not yet over. Think of all those NY Eve celebrations. The authorities must be having conniptions at the thought of policing those.
And she would probably remain Chancellor for life if she chooses.