I am starting to feel for those who have spent every day since May 2015 searching for bad news. They thought June would be it, but it seems not.
The churlishness has gone up a notch in the last 24 hours. It appears that some feel threatened and can probably see a successful Brexit.
My guess is that a new free trade area that excludes Mexico (min. wage $4 an hour), Bulgaria and Romania etc (€2 an hour) will very soon appear. The forward path is becoming obvious.
Care to wager on that?
On what?
The move will be to a free trade area where host nation wages become a factor...
A new free trade area between Canada, USA and UK and other Western European countries like France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc.
That's what you meant right? Apologies if I misunderstood.
I doubt very much that the Europeans will play ball - the currency and defence/historic issues are major obstacles.
I suspect that we will see an Anglosphere drive though. Trump makes the US seem more probable as a participant.
Okay... so that would be UK, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand?
Some of the libertarian Brexit outriders have been going on about CANZUK (i.e. that lot minus the US) for years. I don't suppose that it's impossible, but I'll believe it when I see it.
How much have you got on that market out of interest ?
I have has to lay a load of 1.01 bets like in New Hampshire and dem under 21 states to take the 1.04s elesewhere. It's absurd but I have all my bank tied up still with this election.
The tricky one is the Trump 47% market, I had another attempt at calculating it and got about 46.96%, it's very close to be sure.
Out of interest... what assumptions did you make? Did you assume late votes will be equal trump v. clinton split as those already gone?
I'm trying to spreadsheet it at the moment using CNN figures but must be making a mistake as I can't make the totals add up...
The republican lady again is actually again speaking calmly and making sensible points despite not liking trump...lecturer lady just having a petulant teenage breakdown.
How much have you got on that market out of interest ?
I have has to lay a load of 1.01 bets like in New Hampshire and dem under 21 states to take the 1.04s elesewhere. It's absurd but I have all my bank tied up still with this election.
The tricky one is the Trump 47% market, I had another attempt at calculating it and got about 46.96%, it's very close to be sure.
Michigan will surely put Trump over the 47% mark. WTF are they doing there and NH? How many recounts do they need to make a choice?
I am starting to feel for those who have spent every day since May 2015 searching for bad news. They thought June would be it, but it seems not.
The churlishness has gone up a notch in the last 24 hours. It appears that some feel threatened and can probably see a successful Brexit.
My guess is that a new free trade area that excludes Mexico (min. wage $4 an hour), Bulgaria and Romania etc (€2 an hour) will very soon appear. The forward path is becoming obvious.
Care to wager on that?
On what?
The move will be to a free trade area where host nation wages become a factor...
A new free trade area between Canada, USA and UK and other Western European countries like France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc.
That's what you meant right? Apologies if I misunderstood.
I doubt very much that the Europeans will play ball - the currency and defence/historic issues are major obstacles.
I suspect that we will see an Anglosphere drive though. Trump makes the US seem more probable as a participant.
Okay... so that would be UK, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand?
Some of the libertarian Brexit outriders have been going on about CANZUK (i.e. that lot minus the US) for years. I don't suppose that it's impossible, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Agreed. That's why I'm keen to bet on it! Particularly given the comment that it would "very soon appear".
The republican lady again is actually again speaking calmly and making sensible points despite not liking trump...lecturer lady just having a petulant teenage breakdown.
The more I see of pro-HRCites, the less surprised I am by this result.
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
What is it about your nom de plume that erkerkerks me?
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
What could be changed about TPP to make out better for America?
Trump is not going to do any trade deal with SouthEast Asia or Latin America
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
What is it about your nom de plume that erkerkerks me?
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Nowhere near that, maybe about 60 - 40 Clinton.
So when Lord Farage sells us out as the 51st state, we might swing the electoral collage Math.
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Nowhere near that, maybe about 60 - 40 Clinton.
I wouldn't rely on any opinion polls for that.
The shy Trump vote here would be absolubtely massive.
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Nowhere near that, maybe about 60 - 40 Clinton.
So when Lord Farage sells us out as the 51st state, we might swing the electoral collage Math.
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Sure, but Mexico and the US already have a free trade agreement (NAFTA), and the TPP is subsidiary to that (that is, when there is conflict between the provisions, the NAFTA ones take precedence). And Peru and Vietnam account for well under one percent of US trade, and score almost zero on the MIT Trade Correlation Index. (I.e., they export almost nothing to each other that is domestically produced.)
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
You are looking at TPP terms, which given Trump is ripping up that deal is rather pointless, the US is the largest destination for UK exports, of course we want a trade deal with them
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Nowhere near that, maybe about 60 - 40 Clinton.
Yougov poll said 59%-8% to Clinton. 67% though he would make a terrible president, 5% good or great. Clinton got 22% good/great, 42% average, 25% poor/terible
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
You are looking at TPP terms, which given Trump is ripping up that deal is rather pointless, the US is the largest destination for UK exports, of course we want a trade deal with them
Yes. But TPP is an amazing deal for the US with some of its closest allies. Why would the US say "TPP is not good enough for us, but hey Britain, have a deal that's worse for America"?
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Nowhere near that, maybe about 60 - 40 Clinton.
So when Lord Farage sells us out as the 51st state, we might swing the electoral collage Math.
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
However, in a reflection of both candidates’ underlying unpopularity, almost a third of respondents (32%) said they would not vote for either. <- TRUMP
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Hillary would have won the UK by as big a margin as she won New York state and Massachusetts ie winning around 60%+ at least. In London and Scotland she would have won around 90%+ ie the same margin she won DC. The only places Trump would likely have won would have been parts of Essex and maybe a few industrial towns like Hartlepool and Nuneaton and seaside towns like Great Yarmouth and Blackpool and some rural parts of Yorkshire
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
You are looking at TPP terms, which given Trump is ripping up that deal is rather pointless, the US is the largest destination for UK exports, of course we want a trade deal with them
Yes. But TPP is an amazing deal for the US with some of its closest allies. Why would the US say "TPP is not good enough for us, but hey Britain, have a deal that's worse for America"?
Why would anyone who isn't the US sign up to TPP? I didn't vote to get rid of one master on 23rd June, to get another.
How much have you got on that market out of interest ?
I have has to lay a load of 1.01 bets like in New Hampshire and dem under 21 states to take the 1.04s elesewhere. It's absurd but I have all my bank tied up still with this election.
The tricky one is the Trump 47% market, I had another attempt at calculating it and got about 46.96%, it's very close to be sure.
Out of interest... what assumptions did you make? Did you assume late votes will be equal trump v. clinton split as those already gone?
I'm trying to spreadsheet it at the moment using CNN figures but must be making a mistake as I can't make the totals add up...
I assumed the stein and others were the same% but used the Clinton trump difference on remaining votea from the new York time site. Though theh don't seem to be updating it any more very often and others have more up to date totals
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
You are looking at TPP terms, which given Trump is ripping up that deal is rather pointless, the US is the largest destination for UK exports, of course we want a trade deal with them
Yes. But TPP is an amazing deal for the US with some of its closest allies. Why would the US say "TPP is not good enough for us, but hey Britain, have a deal that's worse for America"?
Why would anyone who isn't the US sign up to TPP? I didn't vote to get rid of one master on 23rd June, to get another.
I don't disagree with that. My point is that the US does not do equal trade treaties. It enters into trade treaties where it controls standards and enforcement, and only then when the benefits are overwhelming. Any deal with the UK that was acceptable to Trump and Congress would not - I suspect - be acceptable to the British people.
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
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Yes. But TPP is an amazing deal for the US with some of its closest allies. Why would the US say "TPP is not good enough for us, but hey Britain, have a deal that's worse for America"?
Why would anyone who isn't the US sign up to TPP? I didn't vote to get rid of one master on 23rd June, to get another.
I don't disagree with that. My point is that the US does not do equal trade treaties. It enters into trade treaties where it controls standards and enforcement, and only then when the benefits are overwhelming. Any deal with the UK that was acceptable to Trump and Congress would not - I suspect - be acceptable to the British people.
The British people voted for Brexit, they knew they needed to do deals elsewhere, the US is the largest destination for UK exports
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Will we get offered a similar deal? forcing competitive tendering by US corporations, adjudicated by courts that we cannot control.
Take back control, my arse!
You are looking at TPP terms, which given Trump is ripping up that deal is rather pointless, the US is the largest destination for UK exports, of course we want a trade deal with them
Yes. But TPP is an amazing deal for the US with some of its closest allies. Why would the US say "TPP is not good enough for us, but hey Britain, have a deal that's worse for America"?
No it isn't, it allows yet more cheap imports from and outsourcing to Mexico which was what Trump was raging against
Jon Sopel says Trump was 'inspired by Brexit' and saw a path to victory as a result, he was in Scotland the day after the vote. An interview with Trump's trade adviser also confirms a Trump US will seek to do a trade deal with the 'like minded UK' before the EU
I'm intrigued to know what deal could be better for the US, than TPP is.
Trump has already said he will not sign TPP
That's my point. If TPP isn't good enough for the US, what trade deal is…?
The UK imports 9% of its imported goods from the US, a deal with a friendly UK could also be fairly easy to do compared to others on the table and one of the few Trump is likely to have much interest in doing, the others being probably with Israel and Australia and maybe Japan
That is who TPP is with: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. It opens up 99% of those markets for US firms, against only 85% in return. It enforces US trade standards on these countries. It requires these countries to keep intellectual property laws in lock step with the US. And it has enforcement through US ISDS tribunals.
There will never be a more favourable trade deal for the US than the TPP. It's with friendly countries, who have strategic interests in common with the US.
if TPP doesn't work for the US, why should a deal with the UK?
Sure, but Mexico and the US already have a free trade agreement (NAFTA), and the TPP is subsidiary to that (that is, when there is conflict between the provisions, the NAFTA ones take precedence). And Peru and Vietnam account for well under one percent of US trade, and score almost zero on the MIT Trade Correlation Index. (I.e., they export almost nothing to each other that is domestically produced.)
Trump has also suggested ripping up NAFTA, so he is not going to do a similar deal instead
How do they manage to find a British audience full of people who can repeat Democratic talking points?
How do you think the British electorate would have voted on Clinton vs. Trump? Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
However, in a reflection of both candidates’ underlying unpopularity, almost a third of respondents (32%) said they would not vote for either. <- TRUMP</p>
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
As a member of the governing party Raab played a straight bat. Fair enough. The republican lady was reasonable I thought, lots of truth bombs that people just didn't want to listen to. On NATO her points were relevant, its time for Europe to pay up, Raab got applause for that so I'm glad the liberal audience were on board as well.
Error in my spreadsheet. She is instead heading for 0.98%, I had accidentally projected Oregon's results with California high percentage of remaining votes to cast
Chillax, Alistair. What will be will be. You can't change it, and it's too late to adjust your position, so there's no point spending any effort, let alone emotion, on figuring out whether it will be a winner or a loser.
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
As a member of the governing party Raab played a straight bat. Fair enough. The republican lady was reasonable I thought, lots of truth bombs that people just didn't want to listen to. On NATO her points were relevant, its time for Europe to pay up, Raab got applause for that so I'm glad the liberal audience were on board as well.
Donald Trump IMMEDIATELY shifted tone upon becoming POTUS-elect, "crooked Hillary" to "Secretary Clinton" - the Government here of course needs to do the same now.
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
As a member of the governing party Raab played a straight bat. Fair enough. The republican lady was reasonable I thought, lots of truth bombs that people just didn't want to listen to. On NATO her points were relevant, its time for Europe to pay up, Raab got applause for that so I'm glad the liberal audience were on board as well.
It was from Southend. On Sea. In Essex. south Essex.
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
As a member of the governing party Raab played a straight bat. Fair enough. The republican lady was reasonable I thought, lots of truth bombs that people just didn't want to listen to. On NATO her points were relevant, its time for Europe to pay up, Raab got applause for that so I'm glad the liberal audience were on board as well.
It was from Southend. On Sea. In Essex. south Essex.
I think she didn't realise that none of use had a vote.
What is annoying with people like that is they don't want to listen to any view different from their own. Rabb was trying to be pragmatic, diplomatic and sensible and she just huffed and puffed like a child when he spoke.
As a member of the governing party Raab played a straight bat. Fair enough. The republican lady was reasonable I thought, lots of truth bombs that people just didn't want to listen to. On NATO her points were relevant, its time for Europe to pay up, Raab got applause for that so I'm glad the liberal audience were on board as well.
It was from Southend. On Sea. In Essex. south Essex.
Still a BBC audience.
Other than angry taxi driver, not a lot of Only Way Is Essex cast members...
Error in my spreadsheet. She is instead heading for 0.98%, I had accidentally projected Oregon's results with California high percentage of remaining votes to cast
Chillax, Alistair. What will be will be. You can't change it, and it's too late to adjust your position, so there's no point spending any effort, let alone emotion, on figuring out whether it will be a winner or a loser.
Donald Trump IMMEDIATELY shifted tone upon becoming POTUS-elect, "crooked Hillary" to "Secretary Clinton"
It was all fake. In 2008 he was singing her praises, called her a "great Senator", a "wonderful woman", "very smart woman", "very nice person", and Bill Clinton a great President.
He'll dump most of those signature campaign promises the same way.
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Incidentally, I'm finding my mates-who-moved-to-America are FAR angrier than my born-American mates. Most amusing.
Did you assume late votes will be equal trump v. clinton split as those already gone?
I'm trying to spreadsheet it at the moment using CNN figures but must be making a mistake as I can't make the totals add up...
'Mortimer">I see Mrs Balls is has a season ticket for the US outrage bus as well as the British outrage bus...
She is going to burst a blood vessel.'
Maybe housing Syrian refugees is too stressful for her.
Particularly given the comment that it would "very soon appear".
https://www.facebook.com/JonathanPieReporter/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf
Probably 90% Clinton. Among those interested in politics I'd bump that up to 95%....
Tasmina is one of those people who I could never tire of disagreeing with. The vehemence with which she argues every point is downright hilarious.
Lab 1551
Con 987
Lib Dem 249
Green 122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
The shy Trump vote here would be absolubtely massive.
Take back control, my arse!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/06/tenth-of-britons-back-donald-trump-for-president-while-half-back-hillary-clinton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sunil060902/sandbox
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/vuun7hasza/Eurotrack_GB_USElection_Website.pdf
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/640436567354568705
Con 1046 LD 308 Lab 118 UKIP 109
Why is this even a question ?
Of course ! If someone is good enough, they'll win.
Fingers crossed, that's all!
Ron Perlman for POTUS 2020
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/796864808440262656
Dear oh dear...
https://www.twitter.com/Royal_Greenwich/status/796868084569088001
He'll dump most of those signature campaign promises the same way.