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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    Tory councillor sleeps in car for 9th conference running over hotel costs
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/london-councillor-sleeps-in-his-car-at-tory-conference-in-protest-at-skyhigh-hotel-costs-a3360486.html

    'The American Conservative party worker behind me in the security queue at conference spoke to her male chum with statistical curiosity rather than judgment: “So what proportion of Conservative men would you say were gay, 95 per cent?” '
    http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/sarah-sands-hard-graft-is-the-only-way-we-can-make-brexit-work-a3360576.html
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,509
    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    AndyJS said:

    Alistair said:

    AndyJS said:

    Alistair said:

    nunu said:

    619 said:

    oof

    New Monmouth poll of likely voters in Pennsylvania:

    Clinton 50
    Trump 40
    Johnson 5
    Stein 2

    https://t.co/XKv6dl7t9B

    when are the next batch of state polls coming.
    We need more polls from North Carolina and Ohio.
    We need polling in Texas to see how blue it is good to go. I say Hillary +4.
    Are you kidding? Texas will be an easy victory for Trump.
    Yes I am kidding. Trumpers are super easy to wind up and I was fishing.
    I'd probably vote for Johnson if I were a US voter.
    You and me both. Better than the Alien vs Predator contest provided by the two main parties.
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gary+johnson+tongue+out&&view=detail&mid=9C97BF09F73778A5ADD79C97BF09F73778A5ADD7&FORM=VRDGAR
    Yes, a little weird. But not bonkers and not corrupt.
  • 619619 Posts: 1,784
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    a) assumes trump wins sunday
    b) assumes there is anything to benghazi except bullshit right wing paranoid conspiracy.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    I see Ken Clarke has said in his memoirs that if IDS had not been replaced by Michael Howard, the Tories would have come third in the 2005 general election
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Holbornlolz: ACTIVATE THE FARAGOTRON
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    May still be speculation re James & UKIP.

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/783392901371981824
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,401

    It's a personal view, and somewhat overshadowed by Theresa May's, but I think the speech Boris Johnson gave on Sunday was the best I've heard yet.

    Fur coat and no knickers comes to mind. Bojo is probably one of the most dangerous, and dishonest, people in public life today.
    I couldn't disagree more.

    He gave a very powerful speech about liberal democracy being in retreat, that its eventual triumph worldwide is very far from inevitable and that it is the role of a global Britain to fight and advocate for it.

    I'd recommend that everyone watch it.
    He’s a chancer and a liar, who is only interested in advancing himself.
    Bless my soul, Mr. Cole. That is to be very candid to the point of rudeness. Not at all what one would expect from a gentleman, especially one richer in years.
    It’s surprising what the evening’s half-bottle of Rioja can make one do.
    I’m normally quite relaxed about politicians excesses, but Mr J really does annoy me.
    Oh, I know what you mean and I can get quite cross myself sometimes, even without an evening's libations. Though these days I find my myself getting more irritated by the people commenting on politicians' idiocies than than the politicians themselves.

    Of course, the most annoying people of all are those who open 1NT with 15 points having previously agreed a weak no trump opening. There ought to be a circle of Hell reserved for such fools.
    Many, many years ago, in college days, at our Student Council someone with a very thick Glaswegian accent endeavoured to explain to the rest of us the rules of Bridge, and why they needed financial support.
    I may have missed something but his explanation put me off the game for life!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MrHarryCole: Two UKIP NEC members say they believe Diane James has just quit as leader after just two weeks in charge.
  • 619619 Posts: 1,784
    Sandpit said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    AndyJS said:

    Alistair said:

    AndyJS said:

    Alistair said:

    nunu said:

    619 said:

    oof

    New Monmouth poll of likely voters in Pennsylvania:

    Clinton 50
    Trump 40
    Johnson 5
    Stein 2

    https://t.co/XKv6dl7t9B

    when are the next batch of state polls coming.
    We need more polls from North Carolina and Ohio.
    We need polling in Texas to see how blue it is good to go. I say Hillary +4.
    Are you kidding? Texas will be an easy victory for Trump.
    Yes I am kidding. Trumpers are super easy to wind up and I was fishing.
    I'd probably vote for Johnson if I were a US voter.
    You and me both. Better than the Alien vs Predator contest provided by the two main parties.
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gary+johnson+tongue+out&&view=detail&mid=9C97BF09F73778A5ADD79C97BF09F73778A5ADD7&FORM=VRDGAR
    Yes, a little weird. But not bonkers and not corrupt.
    he said its a good thing not to know where foreign places are, as it makes it harder to invade them.

    Like COME ON
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    @Casino
    I posted earlier that I am willing to give Theresa May a look, something I stand by.
    Although I despise Brexit, on a self interested perspective it has increased my living costs by 20% overnight, and it has set the UK on a course to be the bargain basement of Northern Europe, I don't blame May for this.

    I think on Grammar Schools, she appears to be genuinely altruistic (maybe wrong, though time will tell), I like her no nonsense way of going about business.

    A choice between Corbyn and May, for me, May wins hands down.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,020
    edited October 2016

    Mr. T, nowhere near as well-travelled as most people, let along a travel reporter, but I had baby snakes (battered). They were rather nice.

    Also had ox and sheep tongue. One was ok, shade rubbery, the other was displeasing as I could feel its tongue bumps on my own.

    @Mr Dancer

    Is Ox Tongue that unusual, unless prepared differently? Are you sure you weren't kissing it by mistake :-D ?

    My butcher supplies freshly pressed Ox Tongue to approx 50 customers each year.

    He tells me that we are one of the few who have the tongue as a tongue and press it ourselves, however.

    Completely delicious.

    Apparently Morrisons supply hundreds of carp to East Europeans.

    In Oz a fortnight ago I enjoyed the Baby Octopus Salad, but chickened out of the fresh, live, sea anenomes with spines attached.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    Speedy said:

    Scott_P said:

    @johnestevens: Hearing rumours Ukip leader Diane James has QUIT after just 18 days in charge

    Why?

    She is doing ok, UKIP is at 13-16% in the polls as usual.
    It was discovered her name wasn't Nigel Farage.
    HYUFD will soon tells us who this will ensure UKIP's breakthrough at the next GE
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    UKIP leaders don't even last as long as England managers...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    What Benghazi debates ?
    Trump would probably lose the Sunday debate anyway and dig an even deeper hole.

    You see I now believe that the real Donald Trump is the one we see on TV all this time, he really is a crazy idiot in his personal life, and if that crazy idiot wins this I'll eat my cigars.


    The only way Hillary loses this is if Trump resigns from the nomination.
    That way Trump can at least say he didn't lose because Hillary didn't win.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,509
    tyson said:

    @Casino
    I posted earlier that I am willing to give Theresa May a look, something I stand by.
    Although I despise Brexit, on a self interested perspective it has increased my living costs by 20% overnight, and it has set the UK on a course to be the bargain basement of Northern Europe, I don't blame May for this.

    I think on Grammar Schools, she appears to be genuinely altruistic (maybe wrong, though time will tell), I like her no nonsense way of going about business.

    A choice between Corbyn and May, for me, May wins hands down.

    Fair play for saying that :+1:
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    619 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    a) assumes trump wins sunday
    b) assumes there is anything to benghazi except bullshit right wing paranoid conspiracy.
    Benghazi will likely dominate the week and is one of Hillary's weaknesses and it will also likely be a key factor in the debate on Sunday too
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    UKIP, may the farce be with you.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Oh look...

    http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/tories-increase-majority-dup-deal/33628

    "The government has a paper majority of 12. Factoring in the absence of Sinn Fein MPs who don’t take up their seats, and taking out the Speaker and Deputy Speakers, the majority is currently effectively 16.

    If the DUP’s 8 MPs regularly voted with the government that would take the majority to 32. No wonder one of the attendees at the DUP devil’s buttermilk reception was the Conservatives’ Chief Whip, Gavin Williamson. He’ll be hoping the DUP can make his job easier and they seem decidedly up for that.

    It’s not as if the DUP is being lured into the rival camp. There has been barely one word exchanged with the Labour leadership since Jeremy Corbyn took over."

    Pro-Union, pro-Brexit, pro-Grammars, and - shall we say - somewhat lukewarm towards some of the policy stances and past associations of the Labour leadership, it's not exactly a surprise that the DUP has decided to cosy up to the Tories (in exchange, presumably, for regular chats about the Brexit process and the occasional large top-up for Stormont's bank account.) All the same, some reliable extra support would come in very handy for the Government.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,813
    edited October 2016
    Scott_P said:

    UKIP leaders don't even last as long as England managers...

    She hasn't been caught by the Telegraph drinking a pint of wine in a Chinese, while asking for £400k for advice on how to legally get around immigration visas?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,922
    edited October 2016
    Looks like the daily politics are going to have to update their library of captions with another short reign!

    image
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    edited October 2016

    Speedy said:

    Scott_P said:

    @johnestevens: Hearing rumours Ukip leader Diane James has QUIT after just 18 days in charge

    Why?

    She is doing ok, UKIP is at 13-16% in the polls as usual.
    It was discovered her name wasn't Nigel Farage.
    HYUFD will soon tells us who this will ensure UKIP's breakthrough at the next GE
    UKIP could be led by Eeyore and it would make little difference, their success at the next election depends on how far May has controlled immigration, if, as is likely, she just requires EU migrants to have a job offer to come here that will not be enough for hardcore Brexiteers
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,696
    LOLKIP
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,755

    Speedy said:

    Scott_P said:

    @johnestevens: Hearing rumours Ukip leader Diane James has QUIT after just 18 days in charge

    Why?

    She is doing ok, UKIP is at 13-16% in the polls as usual.
    It was discovered her name wasn't Nigel Farage.
    Has anyone been checking behind the fridge?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Two UKIP NEC members say they believe Diane James has just quit as leader after just two weeks in charge.

    Until I actually read an official statement from James I wouldn't believe it.

    She has no real serious reason to resign.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,696
    Does this mean that the other UKIP fellow gets a go if he deposits his £5k on time?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,842

    It's a personal view, and somewhat overshadowed by Theresa May's, but I think the speech Boris Johnson gave on Sunday was the best I've heard yet.

    Fur coat and no knickers comes to mind. Bojo is probably one of the most dangerous, and dishonest, people in public life today.
    I couldn't disagree more.

    He gave a very powerful speech about liberal democracy being in retreat, that its eventual triumph worldwide is very far from inevitable and that it is the role of a global Britain to fight and advocate for it.

    I'd recommend that everyone watch it.
    He’s a chancer and a liar, who is only interested in advancing himself.
    Bless my soul, Mr. Cole. That is to be very candid to the point of rudeness. Not at all what one would expect from a gentleman, especially one richer in years.
    It’s surprising what the evening’s half-bottle of Rioja can make one do.
    I’m normally quite relaxed about politicians excesses, but Mr J really does annoy me.
    Oh, I know what you mean and I can get quite cross myself sometimes, even without an evening's libations. Though these days I find my myself getting more irritated by the people commenting on politicians' idiocies than than the politicians themselves.

    Of course, the most annoying people of all are those who open 1NT with 15 points having previously agreed a weak no trump opening. There ought to be a circle of Hell reserved for such fools.
    Only if they're your partner, presumably.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    What Benghazi debates ?
    Trump would probably lose the Sunday debate anyway and dig an even deeper hole.

    You see I now believe that the real Donald Trump is the one we see on TV all this time, he really is a crazy idiot in his personal life, and if that crazy idiot wins this I'll eat my cigars.


    The only way Hillary loses this is if Trump resigns from the nomination.
    That way Trump can at least say he didn't lose because Hillary didn't win.
    The Wikileaks on Benghazi in 24 hours will be a pivotal moment in the campaign and inevitably will be a key part of Sunday's debate. Hillary supporters are presently enjoying a Remain campaign period of smugness, it will not last beyond the end of the week. I still expect her to scrape home but this campaign has plenty left in it to run
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Speedy said:

    Until I actually read an official statement from James I wouldn't believe it.

    She has no real serious reason to resign.

    @MrHarryCole: Told Diane James has been deeply unhappy for personal reasons with her new role and has walked. Ukip spin operation gone to ground.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,498
    We must be due another political comeback from Robert Kilroy-Silk soon.
  • Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I can quote an actual figure - 0% - it's all over
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @rowenamason: Talk of a two-week snap leadership election for Ukip to replace Diane James- rumours Paul Nuttall could be up for it
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Also, the Diane James thing is spreading rapidly through the Twittersphere...

    https://twitter.com/UKlPVoter/status/783394893410557952
  • NEW THREAD

  • 619619 Posts: 1,784
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    What Benghazi debates ?
    Trump would probably lose the Sunday debate anyway and dig an even deeper hole.

    You see I now believe that the real Donald Trump is the one we see on TV all this time, he really is a crazy idiot in his personal life, and if that crazy idiot wins this I'll eat my cigars.


    The only way Hillary loses this is if Trump resigns from the nomination.
    That way Trump can at least say he didn't lose because Hillary didn't win.
    The Wikileaks on Benghazi in 24 hours will be a pivotal moment in the campaign and inevitably will be a key part of Sunday's debate. Hillary supporters are presently enjoying a Remain campaign period of smugness, it will not last beyond the end of the week. I still expect her to scrape home but this campaign has plenty left in it to run
    even infowars doesnt believe in wikileaks anymore.

    still, i guess the trump rampers should hold on to #OCTOBERSURPIRSE, Clinton's illhealth and a mythical Trump pivot as there best chance
  • MaxPB said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Of course, if Hannibal were conducting negotiations he would have led an army of men, horses and elephants through the Channel Tunnel, launching a surprise attack and claiming the north coast of France.

    Edited extra bit: Mr. L, some parents are bloody woeful. Whilst I'm sure you're right about most, a few will just let their kids do as they please.

    My 13 year old is using highly inappropriate language on his X-box with one of his pals at the moment. No one is perfect.
    Inappropriate language, Mr. L? As a long term gamer I can conceive that one may use any language one may choose and that may include such ripe expressions that one's mother may not wish to hear. However foul the words used I doubt that they are inappropriate.
    Fifa 17 seems to require a truly excessive number of expletives.
    Do you go to football matches?
    Yes. If you count Scottish football.
    They play football above Hadrian's wall? Who knew!
    St James' Park is above Hadrian's Wall isn't it?

    Ah, I see what you mean.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Speedy said:

    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Two UKIP NEC members say they believe Diane James has just quit as leader after just two weeks in charge.

    Until I actually read an official statement from James I wouldn't believe it.

    She has no real serious reason to resign.
    Something in tomorrow's papers?
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    edited October 2016
    Charles said:

    It's a personal view, and somewhat overshadowed by Theresa May's, but I think the speech Boris Johnson gave on Sunday was the best I've heard yet.

    Fur coat and no knickers comes to mind. Bojo is probably one of the most dangerous, and dishonest, people in public life today.
    I couldn't disagree more.

    He gave a very powerful speech about liberal democracy being in retreat, that its eventual triumph worldwide is very far from inevitable and that it is the role of a global Britain to fight and advocate for it.

    I'd recommend that everyone watch it.
    He’s a chancer and a liar, who is only interested in advancing himself.
    Bless my soul, Mr. Cole. That is to be very candid to the point of rudeness. Not at all what one would expect from a gentleman, especially one richer in years.
    It’s surprising what the evening’s half-bottle of Rioja can make one do.
    I’m normally quite relaxed about politicians excesses, but Mr J really does annoy me.
    Oh, I know what you mean and I can get quite cross myself sometimes, even without an evening's libations. Though these days I find my myself getting more irritated by the people commenting on politicians' idiocies than than the politicians themselves.

    Of course, the most annoying people of all are those who open 1NT with 15 points having previously agreed a weak no trump opening. There ought to be a circle of Hell reserved for such fools.
    You still use WNT? I much prefer Sliding Gerber or Blackwood
    Never have I come across anything better than a weak no trump as an opening for a suitable hand. It has all the benefits of shutting down one's opponents and telling one's partner the shape and strength of one's hand. Coupled with five card majors a WNT is probably the biggest weapon in the arsenal. But I am old, you youngsters probably have lots of new ideas as indeed some of you did in banking - and look where they landed us.
  • Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Two UKIP NEC members say they believe Diane James has just quit as leader after just two weeks in charge.

    Joined Theresa tomorrow maybe
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,682
    619 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    I see that in the space of 24hrs PB has come around in agreement with my longterm observation that Trump's chances of victory are less than 10%.

    I am sticking to Hillary by less than 1% with Trump+Johnson well above her margin of victory . The Benghazi debates and the aftershock in Sunday's debate will have an impact (tonight is also the VP debate, though that normally makes little difference)
    What Benghazi debates ?
    Trump would probably lose the Sunday debate anyway and dig an even deeper hole.

    You see I now believe that the real Donald Trump is the one we see on TV all this time, he really is a crazy idiot in his personal life, and if that crazy idiot wins this I'll eat my cigars.


    The only way Hillary loses this is if Trump resigns from the nomination.
    That way Trump can at least say he didn't lose because Hillary didn't win.
    The Wikileaks on Benghazi in 24 hours will be a pivotal moment in the campaign and inevitably will be a key part of Sunday's debate. Hillary supporters are presently enjoying a Remain campaign period of smugness, it will not last beyond the end of the week. I still expect her to scrape home but this campaign has plenty left in it to run
    even infowars doesnt believe in wikileaks anymore.

    still, i guess the trump rampers should hold on to #OCTOBERSURPIRSE, Clinton's illhealth and a mythical Trump pivot as there best chance
    We will find out tomorrow
  • Sandpit said:

    tyson said:

    @Casino
    I posted earlier that I am willing to give Theresa May a look, something I stand by.
    Although I despise Brexit, on a self interested perspective it has increased my living costs by 20% overnight, and it has set the UK on a course to be the bargain basement of Northern Europe, I don't blame May for this.

    I think on Grammar Schools, she appears to be genuinely altruistic (maybe wrong, though time will tell), I like her no nonsense way of going about business.

    A choice between Corbyn and May, for me, May wins hands down.

    Fair play for saying that :+1:
    I endorse that
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