If they want to pull up Farage for his poster then they should talk to Farage about it, rather than the one man who didn't mention immigration throughout the campaign.
This is the amazing thing about the Leave campaign, nobody seems to be responsible for it. Hannan knew perfectly well what message they were sending, it was perfectly open to him to say that his proposed plan didn't make any difference to immigration. Of course he didn't do that, he was happy to collect the votes of people who didn't want immigration and let the voters find out later.
It's not racist or xenophobic to mention that increasing the population by a third of a million per year is stretching life to breaking point in certain areas.
If you think the campaign was all about population, why were they running posters of lines of brown people who aren't in the UK, when most of the EU population increase was white people who are?
It wasn't the Vote Leave Campaign that ran that poster, it was Farage and Aaron Banks doing it off their own backs.
Some remain campaigners think we should join the Euro, should that mean that if Remain had won we should have been asking everyone who campaigned for Remain why some of them said that?
Yes, if the Liberal Democrats had been putting up posters with the Remain slogan asking people to vote Remain so that they could use the Euro, Lab and Con should certainly have said that no, even if Remain won, they wouldn't be joining the Euro.
The Labour Party could split and the rebels would need a new name but as pointed out up thread retaining the Labour name due to its "strong branding" would be really important to retain seats.
They have already had "New Labour" hence the convention is to go one step further so how about.
The still don't get it do they? The Guardian, Polly, Dawkins, 80% of Westminster. They still think that what happened on Thursday can somehow be ignored or reversed when the electorate comes to their "sense's".
This is possibly the defining moment of the 21st century for this country but they've not woken up to the new reality.
To his credit I think Cameron has but he is in the minority.</blockquote
It's possible the remainers and the waverers will come to their senses when someone of stature and leadership actually defines what Leave really means. We seem to have a panoply of positions on the Leave side that range from no negotiated single market access and no FoM all the way through to EUlite. So whilst 17 million were marking a cross against a single word I very much doubt any of them had a coherent view on what it really meant (by coherent I mean shared). So now we have posturing UKIP (with Farage doing his best to smooth our negotiation path) and a cowed Tory party that in parts seems to wish this whole thing would go away. Very much like the England football team - no post qualification plan, no clear strategy. No wonder the "soft" leavers (of which I'm sure there are a good many) are worried and a little remorseful. To me it seems like a god-awful cocktail of incompetence and hubris.
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The Labour Party could split and the rebels would need a new name but as pointed out up thread retaining the Labour name due to its "strong branding" would be really important to retain seats.
They have already had "New Labour" hence the convention is to go one step further so how about.
"New Improved Labour"
"New Improved Labour" - sounds like a drain cleaner. How about keeping the old name, but change the script. новый трудовой....