' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Is she not just top of the Lothian List? Don't think she is standing in a constituency at all.
Really ???
But I've read endlessly about how popular Ruth Davidson is.
Perhaps Davidson's chickenrunning should have given a clue.
It turns out I was wrong and she is standing in Edinburgh Central. Not a seat I would give the tories a huge chance in under normal circumstances but she is.
Odd that she's giving up her guaranteed list seat in favour of probably losing a constituency like Edinburgh Central.
No she is on both. She is #1 for the Tories on the list and will be elected.
Surely she wouldn't be elected if the SCON won a couple of Edinburgh constituencies and so weren't eligible for list MSPs ?
Nothing new in that news - but Hunt will not back down and he has nothing to lose now
Not surprised even more people blame the Government than they did in February?
Not really interested. Hunt will win
The Contract may well be implemented, but the rota gaps will get worse and be harder to cover. This will drive further doctors to quit or burnout. It will be a hollow victory.
I do respect your views as you are very involved but the threats have become too over the top by the doctors and talking about an indefinite strike is plain absurd. Hunt announced to the HOC that there will be 11,500 new doctors by 2020 to address the 7 day issue and he has also taken action to invest in more GP's. Where the additional doctors come from I have no idea but no doubt they will come from the EU and the commonwealth and he will also replace those who leave by the same means
He's off to a good start! Number of GPs in post decreased in the last year. A hospital near me has a staffing complement in acute medicine of 11 consultants and 66 juniors. They're already 2 consultants and 20 juniors short and that's before Hunt's contact spreads the juniors even thinner. I can't understand if all the Tory sock puppets just want the NHS to fail or just believe that Hunt speaks nothing but the truth.
As it's a betting site I'll offer you £100 that there will not be 11500 more doctors in the NHS on 1/1/20 than there are today.
Burnham started well. But that was a dreadful answer on the EU question.
The EU section was scary from a Remain perspective. Visceral hostility to the weak arguments being put from the Remain side and disingenuous pushing of the immigration line from Leave. It feels like the country risks drifting towards leaving based on a false sense that this guarantees an end to immigration. Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Burnham started well. But that was a dreadful answer on the EU question.
The EU section was scary from a Remain perspective. Visceral hostility to the weak arguments being put from the Remain side and disingenuous pushing of the immigration line from Leave. It feels like the country risks drifting towards leaving based on a false sense that this guarantees an end to immigration. Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?
"Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?"
'cos it's far too late for that. Should have been done years ago.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
I think a majority of us have never accepted it - it has been tolerated by a politically corrected elite who have failed to apply the law, and have vigorously harrassed those who raised criticisms.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Burnham started well. But that was a dreadful answer on the EU question.
The EU section was scary from a Remain perspective. Visceral hostility to the weak arguments being put from the Remain side and disingenuous pushing of the immigration line from Leave. It feels like the country risks drifting towards leaving based on a false sense that this guarantees an end to immigration. Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?
Interesting stat on TYT live (didn't catch the exact numbers) , Romney beat Obama easily among white women & trumps rating with them is beyond terrible.
I see PB comments' interest in religious acceptance and tolerance lasted approximately 27 hours before it started back into litanies of anti-Muslim tropes.
I am sure a small number of Jewish people have done bad things, but PB comments would correctly note that listing them out would comprise an antisemitic screed.
I see PB comments' interest in religious acceptance and tolerance lasted approximately 27 hours before it started back into litanies of anti-Muslim tropes.
I am sure a small number of Jewish people have done bad things, but PB comments would correctly note that listing them out would comprise an antisemitic screed.
Ain't no Jew ever called me "kuffr"
You have said that your policy is that Muslims should, as you put it, depart. Why some British subjects should be transported away from their only homeland is beyond my Ken.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Yes. he gave a very good half-hour interview on Radio 4 this week. It may be available on BBC Podcast.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Yes. he gave a very good half-hour interview on Radio 4 this week. It may be available on BBC Podcast.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Yes. he gave a very good half-hour interview on Radio 4 this week. It may be available on BBC Podcast.
I was just about to link to it because it's pretty powerful stuff:
Burnham started well. But that was a dreadful answer on the EU question.
The EU section was scary from a Remain perspective. Visceral hostility to the weak arguments being put from the Remain side and disingenuous pushing of the immigration line from Leave. It feels like the country risks drifting towards leaving based on a false sense that this guarantees an end to immigration. Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?
"Why is no-one willing to make a truly positive case for the EU?"
'cos it's far too late for that. Should have been done years ago.
Sadly true. If Leave win it will because they've succeeded in demoralising the pro-Europeans over the course of two decades to the point that they are so cowed they only dare proffer the most craven, utilitarian arguments and are terrified of anything deeper.
When you walk around France it's striking how many EU flags, as well as French flags you see hanging from public buildings (and private buildings for that matter).
Nothing new in that news - but Hunt will not back down and he has nothing to lose now
Not surprised even more people blame the Government than they did in February?
Not really interested. Hunt will win
The Contract may well be implemented, but the rota gaps will get worse and be harder to cover. This will drive further doctors to quit or burnout. It will be a hollow victory.
I do respect your views as you are very involved but the threats have become too over the top by the doctors and talking about an indefinite strike is plain absurd. Hunt announced to the HOC that there will be 11,500 new doctors by 2020 to address the 7 day issue and he has also taken action to invest in more GP's. Where the additional doctors come from I have no idea but no doubt they will come from the EU and the commonwealth and he will also replace those who leave by the same means
He's off to a good start! Number of GPs in post decreased in the last year. A hospital near me has a staffing complement in acute medicine of 11 consultants and 66 juniors. They're already 2 consultants and 20 juniors short and that's before Hunt's contact spreads the juniors even thinner. I can't understand if all the Tory sock puppets just want the NHS to fail or just believe that Hunt speaks nothing but the truth.
As it's a betting site I'll offer you £100 that there will not be 11500 more doctors in the NHS on 1/1/20 than there are today.
As I have said before I have no interest or understanding of betting so I cannot accept your kind offer. Indeed you may be right but time will tell
The nice, more moderate Muslims are very welcome to stay. Some of them are my friends.
I think 'moderate' is an inadequate term to describe what is welcome. 'Secular' would be better. Unfortunately there are many 'moderates' who passively support the goals of political Islam.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Yes. he gave a very good half-hour interview on Radio 4 this week. It may be available on BBC Podcast.
I see PB comments' interest in religious acceptance and tolerance lasted approximately 27 hours before it started back into litanies of anti-Muslim tropes.
I am sure a small number of Jewish people have done bad things, but PB comments would correctly note that listing them out would comprise an antisemitic screed.
Ain't no Jew ever called me "kuffr"
You have said that your policy is that Muslims should, as you put it, depart. Why some British subjects should be transported away from their only homeland is beyond my Ken.
No, my policy is that we should clamp down fiercely on the more extreme and unpleasant forms of Islam - sharia law, FGM, cousin marriage, forced marriage, the burqa, racialised gang rape, horrible imams, dodgy mosques, Salafism, Wahhabism, etc etc etc etc etc - such that the more orthodox and extreme Muslims find life here quite intolerable, and they are unable to pursue their alien religion, so they leave voluntarily.
No western country will survive/tolerate a Muslim population over 10-20%, so these policies are coming anyway.
The nice, more moderate Muslims are very welcome to stay. Some of them are my friends.
So when you said "I see no future for Islam in the UK unless Islam reforms, in some remarkable way. Let them depart", "The problem is ISLAM. Let us be rid", "The immigration of Muslims into Europe has been utterly catastrophic"... "We sincerely thought they would integrate"... "But the experiment has FAILED. And unless we want to endanger our liberal societies, we need to throw the process into reverse", you weren't really talking about Muslims.
' Born in Bradford,[4] Shah was abandoned by her father when six years old after he ran off with their neighbour's sixteen-year-old daughter. At age 12, she was sent to Pakistan to avoid her mother, Zoora's, violent partner, whom Zoora fatally poisoned because she believed he was planning to sexually abuse her daughters. She served 14 years in prison for his murder. While in Pakistan, Shah was forced into an arranged marriage.[4][5] '
Quite honestly, that still doesn't give her the right to espouse deeply troubling views that put her well outside the mainstream of what is considered acceptable in a modern society.
Except those views ARE mainstream in the society she comes from.
That society is not a modern one. We shouldn't accept medieval thought just because it comes from a different 'culture'
'We' have accepted it - from 'honour' killings to electoral fraud to industrial scale racist child rape to FGM to cousin marriage to sharia law and so on.
And we have to undo that acceptance/tolerance. Rapidly.
And when you have the likes of Trevor Philips speak out & then immediately gets blasted by the twitter mob.
Quite. Those that have always listened to Trevor Philips need to keep listening to him.
Yes. he gave a very good half-hour interview on Radio 4 this week. It may be available on BBC Podcast.
I was just about to link to it because it's pretty powerful stuff:
Looks bleak for Zac. Glad I havent got money on this one. Well done to those on at 33/1.
The white British population of London fell from 60% to 45% between 2001 and 2011 and we're already half-way to the next census. That's probably the Tories' main problem in London. Could be below 40% now.
I see PB comments' interest in religious acceptance and tolerance lasted approximately 27 hours before it started back into litanies of anti-Muslim tropes.
I am sure a small number of Jewish people have done bad things, but PB comments would correctly note that listing them out would comprise an antisemitic screed.
Ain't no Jew ever called me "kuffr"
You have said that your policy is that Muslims should, as you put it, depart. Why some British subjects should be transported away from their only homeland is beyond my Ken.
No, my policy is that we should clamp down fiercely on the more extreme and unpleasant forms of Islam - sharia law, FGM, cousin marriage, forced marriage, the burqa, racialised gang rape, horrible imams, dodgy mosques, Salafism, Wahhabism, etc etc etc etc etc - such that the more orthodox and extreme Muslims find life here quite intolerable, and they are unable to pursue their alien religion, so they leave voluntarily.
No western country will survive/tolerate a Muslim population over 10-20%, so these policies are coming anyway.
The nice, more moderate Muslims are very welcome to stay. Some of them are my friends.
Frankly, it's becoming increasingly hard to believe in the existence of moderate Muslims, certainly in politics.
A number of Muslim politicians in public life seem, when you look further, to have some really very unpleasant and not at all moderate views. And an awful lot of those seem to congregate on the Left.
Those who are moderate are often secular and not regarded as proper Muslims at all by other Muslims.
We may want to believe in a moderate liberal Islam but the hard question we need to ask ourselves is whether it really exists and, if so, where is it and why is it not more prominent. We can't kid ourselves that Majid Nawaz represents it. The depressing possibility is that he and a few others are actually the tiny minority. And the likes of Ms Shah and those like her are the majority.
Looks bleak for Zac. Glad I havent got money on this one. Well done to those on at 33/1.
The white British population of London fell from 60% to 45% between 2001 and 2011 and we're already half-way to the next census. That's probably the Tories' main problem in London. Could be below 40% now.
I wouldn't normally say this, but it Littlejohn is actually worth reading...not only because he appears to be spot on with this, but gives some interesting context to Hug-a-Hitler and John Mann...
Thats what happen when the right indulges in identity based politics, the left can get away with it because their policies are all about dividing people up into interst groups but the right is meant to be about believing in the individual instead of dividing people up into groups.
New York Times boss sued over alleged ageist, racist and sexist hiring practices
Paper denies ‘unjustified’ claims that CEO Mark Thompson introduced culture that favors ‘young, white’ and single staffers to older female and black employees
Looks bleak for Zac. Glad I havent got money on this one. Well done to those on at 33/1.
The white British population of London fell from 60% to 45% between 2001 and 2011 and we're already half-way to the next census. That's probably the Tories' main problem in London. Could be below 40% now.
Looks bleak for Zac. Glad I havent got money on this one. Well done to those on at 33/1.
The white British population of London fell from 60% to 45% between 2001 and 2011 and we're already half-way to the next census. That's probably the Tories' main problem in London. Could be below 40% now.
finding really hard to stay motivated to study for my end of year biochemistry exams (first year) are there any jobs to do with this degree anyone know?
Looks bleak for Zac. Glad I havent got money on this one. Well done to those on at 33/1.
The white British population of London fell from 60% to 45% between 2001 and 2011 and we're already half-way to the next census. That's probably the Tories' main problem in London. Could be below 40% now.
finding really hard to stay motivated to study for my end of year biochemistry exams (first year) are there any jobs to do with this degree anyone know?
Having a STEM degree can line you up for some pretty nice jobs. At least it isn't some mickey mouse course.
finding really hard to stay motivated to study for my end of year biochemistry exams (first year) are there any jobs to do with this degree anyone know?
I felt the same way back in 1995, when I was doing my first year biochemistry exams
I am a left wing Labour member but I respect David Davies, I think he ticks the boxes. Not sure about the unifier one
Do you mean David Davis or David Davies?
Aaah sorry David Davis the gentleman who ran for leadership before, someone who comes across as being principled, don't agree with his policies but respect him as a politician
Comments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Pentlands_(Scottish_Parliament_constituency)
As it's a betting site I'll offer you £100 that there will not be 11500 more doctors in the NHS on 1/1/20 than there are today.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/725706218979885056
'cos it's far too late for that. Should have been done years ago.
Now I have to switch my phone off, as Captain America: Civil War is about to start.
I am sure a small number of Jewish people have done bad things, but PB comments would correctly note that listing them out would comprise an antisemitic screed.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7621dc60-0c5f-11e6-9456-444ab5211a2f.html#axzz47AIaCrXb
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/725821992004366336
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-donations-money-campaign-222599
That'll blunt the anti-Clinton, 'she takes money from Wall Street', line.
Goodnight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b078hlsz
When you walk around France it's striking how many EU flags, as well as French flags you see hanging from public buildings (and private buildings for that matter).
What does this mean? No, really?
If Cameron loses the referendum he may step down straight away (I don't think he will but he may). If he wins it, he may serve until early 2020.
So what does "shortly" mean. If I was so casual with use of language in my job the copy wouldn't be allowed out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/28/from-hitler-to-hiding-in-the-loo-how-ken-livingstone-tackled-lab/
Mr Mann’s startled prey sought refuge on the BBC’s Daily Politics. Waiting for him was Andrew Neil.
“So when Naz Shah advocates the forcible removal of Israeli Jews to the US,” asked Mr Neil, “that’s not anti-Semitism?”
“No,” replied Mr Livingstone. It was merely “rude”.
For years the National Front advocated the forcible removal of non-whites from Britain. Perhaps they weren’t racist, just a little ill-mannered.
A number of Muslim politicians in public life seem, when you look further, to have some really very unpleasant and not at all moderate views. And an awful lot of those seem to congregate on the Left.
Those who are moderate are often secular and not regarded as proper Muslims at all by other Muslims.
We may want to believe in a moderate liberal Islam but the hard question we need to ask ourselves is whether it really exists and, if so, where is it and why is it not more prominent. We can't kid ourselves that Majid Nawaz represents it. The depressing possibility is that he and a few others are actually the tiny minority. And the likes of Ms Shah and those like her are the majority.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/326658870867013633
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3564672/The-fascists-poisoned-heart-Labour-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Jew-baiting-lunatic-fringe-charge-Corbyn-s-party.html
Zac deserves to lose.
Paper denies ‘unjustified’ claims that CEO Mark Thompson introduced culture that favors ‘young, white’ and single staffers to older female and black employees
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/28/new-york-times-ceo-sued-discriminatory-hiring-practices
BTW, you missed the question marks on each tweet.