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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » The Syria vote: Cameron looks set to win but how many LAB MPs will back him?

Voting takes place at 10pm and the result should be known within about 16 minutes. Then there’ll be the wait, not too long, for the division lists so we can see who has not followed their parties.

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  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited December 2015
    First!
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Joe Oliver ‏@joe_oliver 10m10 minutes ago
    Would be a majority of circa 135 - larger than many are saying but based on expecting c.12 Tory rebels meaning Govt get.. 1/2 #SyriaVote

    Joe Oliver ‏@joe_oliver 8m8 minutes ago
    ..c.317 Tory MP (-rebels/Deputy Speaker)+c.6 Lib Dems, 11 Unionists, and c.50 Labour MPs (maybe a few more) voting for #SyriaVote 2/2

    Joe Oliver ‏@joe_oliver 7m7 minutes ago
    Of course could be wildly wrong as 90 minutes or so of debate still to go atmosphere during winding up speeches could be crucial #SyriaVote

    (Oliver notes a couple of Labour "rebels" can't vote.)
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Third like the Tories in Oldham.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,214
    Hecklers on SKY news outside Westminster
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    I had expected the Labour rebels to be around 40 so worse than that. The main point however in terms of politics is that they are in a gigantic mess as there seems to be no strategy to clear the decks and start again. I noted yesterday that they're starting to tank in the polls - but the story has a long way to run and I doubt they'll stay above 30 % soon.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Just starting on C4, third and final programme in focus on one murder. The Murder Detectives. Riveting stuff.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    On a separate note the Tory rebels I heard - Davis, Baron, Lewis and I think Tyrie were deeply unimpressive and in at least 3 cases insincere.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,167
    Only 12 Tories rebelling. Perhaps the shared testicle has been given the night off.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    edited December 2015
    The temptation to sit back and watch Labour self destruct must be almost irresistible to the Tories with Benn's closing still to come but having been at work all day and having skimmed through the previous thread it seems that we have the bizarre situation that many Labour MPs have put the Government's case better than they have themselves.

    This really cannot go on. Either they get rid of the muppet or the sensible sane wing of Labour need to do something else. Really, who wants to be led by that?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    ~ 50 Labour rebels... enough to get their candidate on the ballot...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    felix said:

    On a separate note the Tory rebels I heard - Davis, Baron, Lewis and I think Tyrie were deeply unimpressive and in at least 3 cases insincere.

    Its really a pity Labour has given deselection such a bad name. The Conservative party could really do with candidates in some of those seats.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    When he first met Shami Chakrabarti?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    DavidL said:

    felix said:

    On a separate note the Tory rebels I heard - Davis, Baron, Lewis and I think Tyrie were deeply unimpressive and in at least 3 cases insincere.

    Its really a pity Labour has given deselection such a bad name. The Conservative party could really do with candidates in some of those seats.
    Indeed - one of the results of the long-term Labour weakness in many parts of the south especially is too many Tories of dubious quality in ultra safe seats. To be fair this has long pre-dated the present Labour 'issues'.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?


    6 December 2005
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    When he ' thankfully 'got rogered by cam for the leadership. Been sulking and increasingly barking ever since.
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    If only 50 Labour votes are FOR, whilst the majority will top 100, Cameron's stupid terrorist comment stopped a LAB majority voting against Corbyn IMHO.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    MarkHopkins said:

    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?


    6 December 2005
    Nah, he was alright in the shadow cabinet for a while. Even after he had his election against himself he wasn't such a fool.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    23rd December 1948.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    williamglenn said:

    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    When he first met Shami Chakrabarti?
    That makes sense.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    If only 50 Labour votes are FOR, whilst the majority will top 100, Cameron's stupid terrorist comment stopped a LAB majority voting against Corbyn IMHO.

    If so then it's terribly good politics and will further annoy the Cameron detractors so win win :)

    Oh and the comment was neither stupid nor untrue.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Who would've thought 10 years ago that David Davis would end up consistently to the Left of Cameron.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    williamglenn said:

    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    When he first met Shami Chakrabarti?
    But who wouldn't get their head turned by that doe-eyed beauty!
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Plunge on Hilary Benn with WH,down to 3-1 fav.Misplaced IMHO.
    My guess for Labour MPs voting against 38-42.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @AdamBienkov: Andy Burnham tells BBC he won't vote for Syrian air strikes today but may change his mind in the future. I give him a few minutes #syriavote
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    Danny565 said:

    Who would've thought 10 years ago that David Davis would end up consistently to the Left of Cameron.

    Mad.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,625
    Scott_P said:

    @AdamBienkov: Andy Burnham tells BBC he won't vote for Syrian air strikes today but may change his mind in the future. I give him a few minutes #syriavote

    Didn't he say he would vote for it if there was a UN resolution?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    The L/Dems are on board, or so Farron hopes.
    Possibly 90± Labour MP's will vote for bombing. Any more and Labour is truly split in half. Less than 40 will be a boost for Jezzabel.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    Lynton Crosby was going to be my man of 2015.

    Jürgen Klopp now has that accolade.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited December 2015
    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
    Any Labour MP who uses a vote on military action as a proxy for parochial internal Labour politics would be (rightly) treated with contempt by even moderate Labour members.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    Norman Lamb voting against.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    felix said:

    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    If only 50 Labour votes are FOR, whilst the majority will top 100, Cameron's stupid terrorist comment stopped a LAB majority voting against Corbyn IMHO.

    If so then it's terribly good politics and will further annoy the Cameron detractors so win win :)

    Oh and the comment was neither stupid nor untrue.
    Quite. He gets a majority and the Labour party gets tarred with the terrorists' sympathisers' moniker, including those who aren't but aren't man enough to step away from the pile of sh*t that Corbyn, McDonnell, Milne and Livingstone represent.

    Labour members keep saying that Corbyn represents what they want, what they believe in, that he is better than all those Tories like Blair and Brown etc. So they own Corbyn and his sympathies too.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    MikeK said:

    The L/Dems are on board, or so Farron hopes.
    Possibly 90± Labour MP's will vote for bombing. Any more and Labour is truly split in half. Less than 40 will be a boost for Jezzabel.

    The 90+ figure for Labour seems wildly optimistic imho
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,849
    volcanopete said:

    Plunge on Hilary Benn with WH,down to 3-1 fav.Misplaced IMHO.
    My guess for Labour MPs voting against 38-42.

    Lol, money for old rope for the bookie.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    foxinsoxuk said:

    williamglenn said:

    MaxPB said:

    When did David Davis turn into such an idiot?

    When he first met Shami Chakrabarti?
    But who wouldn't get their head turned by that doe-eyed beauty!
    Oh dear Dr Fox! She is a nitwit.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Benn on his feet
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    Danny565 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
    Anyone who uses a vote on military action as a proxy for parochial internal Labour politics would be (rightly) treated with contempt by even moderate Labour members.
    Really? Cameron has won. There really are other fish to fry and the future of our main opposition party is not insignificant, not at all.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    Danny565 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
    Anyone who uses a vote on military action as a proxy for parochial internal Labour politics would be (rightly) treated with contempt by even moderate Labour members.
    Isn't that just what some of the Corbynista MPs are doing?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Corbyn not in the chamber, but Benn says he is not a terrorist sympathiser
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulwaugh: Labour peer Lord Rooker has really gone for it. (via @guardian liveblog)
    https://t.co/hrpfUGPOjs https://t.co/Amcau3EHGd
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
    Worried about the Union David?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    volcanopete said:

    Plunge on Hilary Benn with WH,down to 3-1 fav.Misplaced IMHO.
    My guess for Labour MPs voting against 38-42.

    Lol, money for old rope for the bookie.
    And to think you can get 5 on BF!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Lynton Crosby was going to be my man of 2015.

    Jürgen Klopp now has that accolade.

    Liverpool won another game? Remarkable enough I suppose but not that extraordinary.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,321
    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/672166395535314944

    Jeff Rooker on Corbyn.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Scott_P said:

    Corbyn not in the chamber, but Benn says he is not a terrorist sympathiser

    Then he is either monumentally stupid or a liar.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,849
    edited December 2015
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    volcanopete said:

    Plunge on Hilary Benn with WH,down to 3-1 fav.Misplaced IMHO.
    My guess for Labour MPs voting against 38-42.

    Lol, money for old rope for the bookie.
    And to think you can get 5 on BF!
    I'm guessing that's your dosh heh

    If you get matched don't forget to lay David Miliband a bit to improve yr effective interest rate :)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: Shadow foreign secretary @hilarybennmp up wrapping up for labour... "conditions are met" at that point @jeremycorbyn who disagrees arrives
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Lynton Crosby was going to be my man of 2015.

    Jürgen Klopp now has that accolade.

    Liverpool won another game? Remarkable enough I suppose but not that extraordinary.
    We were one nil down after 40 secs. We're now 6-1 up away at Southampton in the Rumbelows cup
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/672166395535314944

    Jeff Rooker on Corbyn.

    Shall I put him down as a maybe on Corbynism?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,260
    Watching Benn argue in favour of motion and Corbyn sitting behind him is surreal.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Two Labour members looking at cute kittens/sneezing pandas on a phone while Benn is speaking.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,979
    Eh_ehm_a_eh said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    DavidL said:

    It is going to come down to Benn. If he is to be the road back from perdition for Labour he needs to win some of the 130 allegedly backing Corbyn around and persuade them otherwise. At the moment Crobyn is winning more than half the PLP which consolidates his position.

    This may prove to be the most important speech he ever makes.

    True enough. But I'm not sure that those PLP members who vote against because of intimidation, fear for their seats etc will necessarily be more enamoured of Corbyn. Sullen acquiescence is not a great basis for good leadership. Of course, Corbyn may not care about that.

    If they can get bullied on this they can get bullied on anything so they no longer count. This is their chance to get their party back but I think they are going to fluff it.
    Worried about the Union David?
    Yes. SLAB are already making dodos look quite vivacious. They really don't need the party in Westminster looking as ridiculous as it does in Holyrood. This is too big a burden for Ruth to carry on her own.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,214
    edited December 2015
    Scott_P said:

    Corbyn not in the chamber, but Benn says he is not a terrorist sympathiser

    He's sitting behind him!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @PickardJE: Apparently Corbyn is eating dinner in terrace canteen while Hilary Benn speaks to the House re Syria...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Watching Benn argue in favour of motion and Corbyn sitting behind him is surreal.

    Corbyn, Watson, Burnham all behind him...what a sight.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Shadsy goes;

    2/9 Lab
    10/3 UKIP
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    edited December 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @paulwaugh: Labour peer Lord Rooker has really gone for it. (via @guardian liveblog)
    https://t.co/hrpfUGPOjs https://t.co/Amcau3EHGd

    Wow!

    image
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Apparently Corbyn is eating dinner in terrace canteen while Hilary Benn speaks to the House re Syria...

    Really...I didn't know his twin was also an MP?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    He's sitting behind him!

    He arrived late
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Scott_P said:

    @PickardJE: Apparently Corbyn is eating dinner in terrace canteen while Hilary Benn speaks to the House re Syria...

    He's got a twin then.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @DPJHodges: Hilary Benn doesn't just look like the leader of the opposition at the moment. He looks like the prime minister.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    Scott_P said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    He's sitting behind him!

    He arrived late
    Well thats just standard.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,625
    Good stuff from Benn
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    Hilary Benn is making the speech of the day (well the ones I've watched anyway)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @thequentinletts: Hilary Benn making the speech of his life. Make him Labour leader.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    Benn better than the PM on the case in favour of bombing.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    volcanopete said:

    Plunge on Hilary Benn with WH,down to 3-1 fav.Misplaced IMHO.
    My guess for Labour MPs voting against 38-42.

    Lol, money for old rope for the bookie.
    And to think you can get 5 on BF!
    I'm guessing that's your dosh heh

    If you get matched don't forget to lay David Miliband a bit to improve yr effective interest rate :)
    You know what, I might let that run...
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    This is very good from Benn
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Tony_McNulty: Whether you agree with him or not, superb speech from Hilary Benn - well thought out, razor sharp and delivered with impeccable courtesy
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/672166395535314944

    Jeff Rooker on Corbyn.

    That's way more incendiary than anything Cameron has said. A Labour peer has explicitly compared Corbyn and the Trots to Daesh.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,214
    williamglenn said:

    Scott_P said:

    @paulwaugh: Labour peer Lord Rooker has really gone for it. (via @guardian liveblog)
    https://t.co/hrpfUGPOjs https://t.co/Amcau3EHGd

    Wow!

    image
    I don't know why people use the epithet "Trot" when Trotskyites are hated by the Hard Left! Leon himself was murdered on Stalin's orders in Mexico in 1940.
    And this was a recent leaflet by the Communist Party of Great Britain:

    http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=leaflets&subName=display&leafletId=89

  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,321
    Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
    I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
    The evil that men do lives after them;
    The good is oft interred with their bones;
    So let it be with Caesar.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Wanderer said:

    This is very good from Benn


    Has he called Corbyn and Milne "honourable men" yet?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    Anyone called Hilary Benn a Tory yet?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,260
    Wanderer said:

    This is very good from Benn

    This is the end of Corbyn - Benn has just traduced him by his arguments
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum behind Benn look lost.
  • TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    I have to say it's surreal watching Benn putting his case forward (very passionately), whilst his leader sits next to him, who believes the total opposite to Benn.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    Make this guy leader of the opposition.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Anyone called Hilary Benn a Tory yet?

    Why doesn't he just pi$$ off to the Tories ;-)
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited December 2015
    Drama on The Apprentice...

    (Moving onto the serious matters of the day)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    MarkHopkins said:

    Wanderer said:

    This is very good from Benn

    Has he called Corbyn and Milne "honourable men" yet?

    Or perhaps a Howe quote - "The time has come for others to consider their own response to the tragic conflict of loyalties, with which I myself have wrestled for perhaps too long."
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    Benn lecturing his own side now...kinda of how you expect a leader to do.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    One has to wonder what is going through Andy Burnham's head, assuming it isn't just empty.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @VickiYoung01: "We never have and we never should walk by on the other side of the road" says Benn to his Labour colleagues #syriavote
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,345
    Benn could be PM tonight.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    MaxPB said:

    One has to wonder what is going through Andy Burnham's head, assuming it isn't just empty.

    You are giving him too much credit.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,778
    This is astonishing stuff by Hilary Benn. A full throated leadership pitch.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,214
    Hillary for POTUS, I mean PM :)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @DPJHodges: Incredible moment. Hilary Benn destroying Jeremy Corbyn's "mandate" with the moral force of 100 years of Labour history.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    Benn. Wow.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,915
    Hillary Benn applauded by all sides of the House.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,260
    MaxPB said:

    Make this guy leader of the opposition.

    Labour need to follow Benn tonight and give a large vote for the motion thereby destroying Corbyn
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,990
    The Labour front bench were seriously dumbstruck by that.
  • TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    Corbyn looks absolutely pissed off.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,078
    Are we watching Hilary Benn's resignation speech from the front bench..?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Jonathan said:

    Benn. Wow.

    It's a magnificent speech
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Clear the benches, no clapping allowed you tory bastards.
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