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The July Ipsos MORI Issues index sees declines for immigration & NHS but big increase for defence/terrorism pic.twitter.com/VxHqDcxB6N
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Huzzah for the Tory government and Jeremy Hunt in particular.
He was from the Sudan so most likely crossed the borders of Egypt and Syria into the toe of Italy. It could have been another direction of course but I am using the shortest possibility. If it was another he passed through even more safe countries of course.
When in Italy he has travelled the length of that country passing some of the most beautiful and stunning countryside in the world with good food and fine wines and healthy living. He then passes into France. Not for him the wonders of Monaco the French Riviera , the vineyards of France with good living warm weather oh no.
He passes Switzerland lying to the east not a thought of stopping at Geneva and then no other city town or village as he heads north his heart set on a dirty little campsite in the open situated in Calais. Here he waits probably for months in ramshackle conditions attempting to jump into containers on moving trucks or on top of trains that hurtle through the tunnel at breakneck speed risking injury or death.
To do this He has passed through some of the most majestic holiday destinations in the world perfectly safe countries simply to finally die under a lorries wheels in what he would have considered an unknown town in northern France.
The question everyone has to ask is why? Why go to all those lengths when he was perfectly safe anywhere in Europe. We all know why of course and Until that question is firmly and rigidly addressed then they will keep coming.
It's now just a matter of time.... The dam is breaking.
This is how crap the other three leadership contenders are that they've not raised that or his IRA loving comments.
If they don't then the Tories will.
September 13th is when the Tories will first raise it.
#Jezbollah
Tory voters concerned about the EU and an ageing population.
Labour voters concerned about poverty/inequality and low pay.
One thing I'd point out is that the more mobile people are often those wealthy enough to afford support on the journey: the very poorest, most ill, most elderly or generally most vulnerable are often the least able to flee. I know of Afghan asylum seekers in London from wealthy backgrounds - who came for the free education (if you say you're 15 you get free school and and three years free FE college; I know of cases where the true age turned out to be rather above 15!), the support (younger unaccompanied ones get a foster family and so on) and yet once all the paperwork was processed, would still jet back to stay with the family (in the country so dangerous they were claiming asylum from it) over the summer. There really are people in Afghanistan who most people would agree "deserve" asylum here, but it's not necessarily the ones who make it across.
Do we...?? Not sure I do.
Trying to make the whites angry eh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33699873
From reading of this, I am not sure how this situation has come about in the first place. The article suggests that the law is crystal clear on this matter (and actually didn't require much more than a civil servant signing it off every 2 weeks, rather than the prison staff), so why hasn't it been followed especially given how dangerous these two clearly are?
This is how crap the other three leadership contenders are that they've not raised that or his IRA loving comments. "
You're such a Tory Eagle! A pity because in most other respects you're a human being.
Indeed, which is why international aid to those countries is a more effective way of helping the most needy than opening your borders and offering blanket asylums to anyone who has the money to get to your country. Not to mention that £100 supporting an illegal immigrant in this country would help far more people if spent in their country of origin.
If only Trotsky could talk, what would she say?!
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/07/boys-who-could-see-england
Last winter, two bodies in identical wetsuits were found in Norway and the Netherlands. Police in three countries failed to identify them - and then the trail led to Calais.
This is a very moving tale of woe in the NS. Actually the translation of a piece in Dagbladet. A fatal mistake so to think. But so long as people think Jerusalem is builded here, the tide will keep coming. Whatever you think the government response should be, the human cost of the present situation across Europe is something tragic.
But then again, the British beacon is clearly not entirely myth. One aspect from that story that got me is the migrants in France trying to get back to Britain who have already been kicked out - but clearly didn't "get the message" they weren't welcome, or legal. Yet despite having first hand experience of one of the most heavy-handed parts of the migration system, and tasted what a life in the British underclass is like, they wanted another bash at it. Another aspect that stuck in my craw was the success of "multiculturalism" in the multi-ethnic, multilingual refugee encampments. Rival groups of nationalities violently fighting it out for lucrative trafficking opportunities or the best spots for access to lorries, even burning each other alive in their tents. (Exactly the kind of people the cynics want coming to Britain, and perfect evidence that such disparate and competing groups will integrate well into our society...)
A mess really. I think we might do better to be more like Canada, assess people nearer the scene, give the more deserving cases visas and fly them over. That's a way to "do our bit" without letting the movement of refugees be controlled by violent thugs or applying "only the fittest and best-resourced will breach our defences and be allowed to settle in our land of milk and honey", which seems neither fair nor sensible. Unlike Canada, though, we still have the issue of Calais.
Remember Fallon's attack on Miliband during the campaign ?
That will be the Tories playing by Queensberry rules compared to the political waterboarding Corbyn will get.
I'm almost tempted to buy a ticket.
NIMBIP. .....Not in my back Italian Piazza.. Obs.
Too early, and Labour might ditch him. Too late, and the electorate might give him the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, he's a member of the "Rentier" class - one of the left's most despised groups! Shocking!
Australia are a better side than England, but they are very beatable in the right conditions, we should take heart in that, as we saw recently, despite the humiliation that followed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33703204
"An MSP has called on the Scottish government to clarify why it gave the organisers of the T in the Park festival £150,000 in funding.
Conservative MSP Liz Smith said there needed to be "absolute clarity and transparency" over the matter.
The government had stated the one-off sum was given to help fund the "successful transition" of the festival to its new home at Strathallan Castle."
One wonders if Eurotunnel management should be reviewing the Indiana Jones movies for some ideas.
A moving story and a typical one. A shame that our Prime Minister's only comment on the disaster happening in Calais is to say how tragic it is that some Britons are having their holiday disturbed. Whatever shortcomings Corbyn might have he's at least known to have some compassion.
https://twitter.com/edwest/status/625929789933789184
Let's face it, they aren't going to be sent back on the next train to France, or anywhere else.
The tunnel's 31 miles long - if someone's going in on foot, you've easily got 4 hours or so to capture them before they pop out at the UK end.
None of them are war widows or starving kids.
Not a single one of these men should be admitted. And we would be crazy to do so. For those in genuine need, there is a legal process by which they can apply for asylum in Western countries where the UK can and will take its fair share of refugees.
Comedy dismissal, shouldered arms and had his furniture rearranged.
Just like Clarke at Old Trafford in 2005
Scene - airport about to take a flight.
"hi security no haven't got a passport but want to go to the USA."
"What I need a visa as well oh ? haven't got one of them either"
"Tell you what I will sneak onto a baggage truck and storm the airplane and grab a seat. Just like they do at Calais."
"What do you mean it's illegal and you might have an issue with that?"
* 60 seconds pass....*
"Yeah hi officers ...like I was just explaining to this guy here at the desk how I want to go to the USA illegally "
Next view from floor level ....*sound of handcuffs being applied*
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The ECB are yet to acknowledge in contribution.
We have no duty of care towards ANYONE trying to enter the UK illegally. We are under no obligation to care for economic migrants who try to break the law to gain access to our shores.
We do have an obligation to fulfill our international obligation to asylum seekers - but that doesn't apply in these cases. Asylum seekers are obliged to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. They can't go on a European tour to get to us.
I do feel sympathy for those who are so desperate for a life in the UK that they risk their own lives. But I do not believe we have any moral or political obligation to make the life of illegal economic migrants easy.
We should be working with France to massively boost security in the area - including troops from both nations if necessary. The French must take responsibility for clearing the camp and for ensuring no such community is ever allowed to establish itself there (or anywhere else for that matter)
We need major action and need it now. Ignore EU law, just make it happen. Restore a secure perimeter and work with the French to get Sangatte camp destroyed. Without that primary focus, the gangs would not have an easy route through and the situation would start to be resolved.
Coincidentally today is the 1,001st anniversary of the Battle of Kleidion
To all intents and purposes, if they touch British soil, a good 80%+ of them will be staying for good.
You can all thank me later for that image.
I dislike the bundling of poverty and inequality. It's possible for a society to have total poverty and zero inequality, or very low poverty and great inequality.
So simply crossing the fence achieves the same perhaps?
This reminds me of a German motorbike, the Swiss border and a top Hollywood star.
A life in France or Italy can't be that bad for these migrants. They must think the streets of London are paved with gold in order to risk their lives to go from France to the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827263/Blair-signed-secret-contract-Saudi-oil-firm-promising-41-000-month-slice-deals-helped-broker.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/23/-sp-blair-gaddafi-letter-thanks-spy-cooperation-libya-uk-dissidents
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/07/chile.pinochet