On the Cooper news: not surprised. Burnham messed up massively regarding the welfare bill, and has been in free-fall ever since. His campaign has essentially considered of memes on immigration and playing the 'look-at-me-I'm-a-working-class-lad-from-Liverpool-done-good-I'm-so-ordinary-afterall-I-support-Everton' schtick. While I wouldn't say he's Ed Miliband with a scouse accent - he's not got Miliband's presentation issues - I think he may actually be a worst bet that Corbyn, and even Ed Miliband. At least Ed Miliband has some ideas. Burnham has none. We'd also have to put up with Rachel Reeves as Shadow Chancellor if Burnham wins.
It appears Cooper has decent shot at winning this whole thing, if Paul Waugh's tweet is true. I'd suggest Cooper should now start talking about any ideas she has to give herself some kind of momentum. The time for Burnham and Cooper to stop being mutes is now.
I think @Danny565 analysis on Burnham is spot on. This will be the second successive leadership election Burnham has been a flop.
Internal data but: Paul Waugh @paulwaugh .@YvetteCooperMP is neck and neck with @Corbyn4Leader in Cooper phone/text/canvass and other data soon to be released. Burnham 3rd.
Who would have thought the wife of Ed Balls could come up with all these smart alec leakings of voodoo polls? I mean Ed is sat at home minding the kids, isn't he. He cannot have time can he to be part of this can he? And poor wittering Yvette would never be a convenient prop for her behind the scenes rejected husband would she?
He's lecturing at Harvard now.
American universities are famous for the long summer breaks.
Wherever Ed is now, he most certainly is not “lecturing at Harvard”.
First day fall term classes are September 2nd, which is when lectures begin.
Though as Ed is an unpaid Research Fellow, he doesn’t lecture and probably doesn’t even have to keep term.
So he's shuffling around an empty campus pretending he's someone important. Probably painting classrooms, or reordering books in the library. "I could have been the Chancellor once..."
I'm surprised his old chum Gordon Brown hasn't offered Ed a high paying role within his charity, or pulled a few strings on the speaking circuit.
Accordingly to Brown, all those speeches etc he does, he doesn't end up making any money out of it....the fact his expenses are sky high of course has nothing to do with it.
Mr. Pulpstar, he must be thinking he'd be in a position to be leader now, if it hadn't been for those pesky voters.
Wonder if the shifting fortunes of politics have altered the relationship dynamic....I guess you'd need to be in the Westminster bubble to find that one out
@paulwaugh: Team Burnham data: Andy Burnham 37% Jeremy Corbyn 28% Yvette Cooper 10% Liz Kendall 6% Don't Know 21% (Total 101 due to rounding)
If these are his canvass returns then he is doomed. Your own polling will have a significant bias in your favour due to politeness, enemy misinformation, and people saying they will vote when they won't. Experienced campaigners across all parties manage this and use various formulae to account for this, in order to give a true prediction.
On first preferences at least - if these are his own figures then he is toast
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
The Beeb web site is saying that since Strauss retired, Cook's opening partners have managed an average of 28.61. That is way higher than I would have thought just from memory. My impression is that it has been a fairly consistent disaster. I guess a few big scores have upped the average.
its more a case that one of the two openers always falls early which is what sticks in the memory, just remember that for the last couple of years that has been Cook more often than the other victim
@paulwaugh: Team Burnham data: Andy Burnham 37% Jeremy Corbyn 28% Yvette Cooper 10% Liz Kendall 6% Don't Know 21% (Total 101 due to rounding)
If these are his canvass returns then he is doomed. Your own polling will have a significant bias in your favour due to politeness, enemy misinformation, and people saying they will vote when they won't. Experienced campaigners across all parties manage this and use various formulae to account for this, in order to give a true prediction.
On first preferences at least - if these are his own figures then he is toast
Not sure why we should believe any of the campaigns' own figures to be honest. The first casualty of war and all that.
Internal data but: Paul Waugh @paulwaugh .@YvetteCooperMP is neck and neck with @Corbyn4Leader in Cooper phone/text/canvass and other data soon to be released. Burnham 3rd.
Who would have thought the wife of Ed Balls could come up with all these smart alec leakings of voodoo polls? I mean Ed is sat at home minding the kids, isn't he. He cannot have time can he to be part of this can he? And poor wittering Yvette would never be a convenient prop for her behind the scenes rejected husband would she?
He's lecturing at Harvard now.
American universities are famous for the long summer breaks.
Wherever Ed is now, he most certainly is not “lecturing at Harvard”.
First day fall term classes are September 2nd, which is when lectures begin.
Though as Ed is an unpaid Research Fellow, he doesn’t lecture and probably doesn’t even have to keep term.
So he's shuffling around an empty campus pretending he's someone important. Probably painting classrooms, or reordering books in the library. "I could have been the Chancellor once..."
I'm surprised his old chum Gordon Brown hasn't offered Ed a high paying role within his charity, or pulled a few strings on the speaking circuit.
Accordingly to Brown, all those speeches etc he does, he doesn't end up making any money out of it....the fact his expenses are sky high of course has nothing to do with it.
Balls would do best to own up to spouting nonsense, apologise for his part in the Brown fiasco, and hope that his missus doesn't win the Labour leadership. Unless Harvard have recently introduced a course in daft-brushery then I can't imagine he's on their payroll.
Brown on the other hand. I'm hopeful that he's just living off Mrs Brown's influence. I don't begrudge him a living, but under no circumstances whatsoever should he have responsibility for anything beyond his own lunch, and if that involves spending more than a fiver a counter signatory should be sought.
Do we have dates the survey was carried over? 29k is a lot... I would assume the survey started before Burnham and the welfare bill, and before JC support blew up.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
In my opinion there are only really two ways the Labour leadership polls could be wrong. Corbyn could be even further ahead than they all suggest and that Cooper may be getting less first preferences than suggested. Burnham's canvassing data could be the first sign of the latter.
It's looking more and more likely that the 2020 election won't be a genuine contest. Labour have decided they'd rather be true to themselves and maximise their core vote. To hell with the marginals and floating voters.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
It is absurd that we fight like hell to keep them out, but then allow an asylum application as soon as they have a toe on English soil. Time for the Australian solution. How are our relations with PNG?
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
Unfortunately the message that Britain isn't the envy of the world runs counter to the colonial guilt mindset that is common in that organisation.
Internal data but: Paul Waugh @paulwaugh .@YvetteCooperMP is neck and neck with @Corbyn4Leader in Cooper phone/text/canvass and other data soon to be released. Burnham 3rd.
Who would have thought the wife of Ed Balls could come up with all these smart alec leakings of voodoo polls? I mean Ed is sat at home minding the kids, isn't he. He cannot have time can he to be part of this can he? And poor wittering Yvette would never be a convenient prop for her behind the scenes rejected husband would she?
He's lecturing at Harvard now.
American universities are famous for the long summer breaks.
Wherever Ed is now, he most certainly is not “lecturing at Harvard”.
First day fall term classes are September 2nd, which is when lectures begin.
Though as Ed is an unpaid Research Fellow, he doesn’t lecture and probably doesn’t even have to keep term.
So he's shuffling around an empty campus pretending he's someone important. Probably painting classrooms, or reordering books in the library. "I could have been the Chancellor once..."
I'm surprised his old chum Gordon Brown hasn't offered Ed a high paying role within his charity, or pulled a few strings on the speaking circuit.
Accordingly to Brown, all those speeches etc he does, he doesn't end up making any money out of it....the fact his expenses are sky high of course has nothing to do with it.
... Brown on the other hand. I'm hopeful that he's just living off Mrs Brown's influence. I don't begrudge him a living, but under no circumstances whatsoever should he have responsibility for anything beyond his own lunch, and if that involves spending more than a fiver a counter signatory should be sought.
Burnham receding like the tide at the moment. Now 3.30/3.35, not far off Cooper 3.65/3.75
Perhaps he should try the Hillary Clinton tearful moment: "Some people think elections are a game. They think it's who's up and who's down. It's about our country! It's about our childrens' futures!"
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
Unfortunately the message that Britain isn't the envy of the world runs counter to the colonial guilt mindset that is common in that organisation.
Remind me, why wouldn't we want to be (the genuine) envy of the world? We are not, but we are not far behind. How many other countries would you prefer to be a citizen of and live in?
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
Internal data but: Paul Waugh @paulwaugh .@YvetteCooperMP is neck and neck with @Corbyn4Leader in Cooper phone/text/canvass and other data soon to be released. Burnham 3rd.
Who would have thought the wife of Ed Balls could come up with all these smart alec leakings of voodoo polls? I mean Ed is sat at home minding the kids, isn't he. He cannot have time can he to be part of this can he? And poor wittering Yvette would never be a convenient prop for her behind the scenes rejected husband would she?
He's lecturing at Harvard now.
American universities are famous for the long summer breaks.
Wherever Ed is now, he most certainly is not “lecturing at Harvard”.
First day fall term classes are September 2nd, which is when lectures begin.
Though as Ed is an unpaid Research Fellow, he doesn’t lecture and probably doesn’t even have to keep term.
So he's shuffling around an empty campus pretending he's someone important. Probably painting classrooms, or reordering books in the library. "I could have been the Chancellor once..."
I'm surprised his old chum Gordon Brown hasn't offered Ed a high paying role within his charity, or pulled a few strings on the speaking circuit.
Accordingly to Brown, all those speeches etc he does, he doesn't end up making any money out of it....the fact his expenses are sky high of course has nothing to do with it.
... Brown on the other hand. I'm hopeful that he's just living off Mrs Brown's influence. I don't begrudge him a living, but under no circumstances whatsoever should he have responsibility for anything beyond his own lunch, and if that involves spending more than a fiver a counter signatory should be sought.
Why couldn't you have told Tony Blair that?
Blair knew what a horror story Brown was well before we did. He's haunted by it.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Quite. It fills me with sadness each time I visit the FCO these days at how dingy and empty the place is. But when you set its budget at significantly less than the Cabinet Office's budget and expect it to be present in most of the world's countries, it is bound to be stretched to tearing point and beyond. There is no surge capacity - each time there is a crisis, people have to be stripped from existing jobs to man the trenches. It is simply unrealistic for anyone to expect the FCO to influence world public opinion. At best, it can have influence where it matters in governments.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
It is absurd that we fight like hell to keep them out, but then allow an asylum application as soon as they have a toe on English soil. Time for the Australian solution. How are our relations with PNG?
Couldn't we do with more people in the Falklands to bolster against any future Argentinian green eyes?
True, but it raises the question of what all our foreign aid money is achieving. Why doesn't Cameron summon the Eritrean ambassador, for example, to explain why his country is a virtual prison camp?
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Quite. It fills me with sadness each time I visit the FCO these days at how dingy and empty the place is. But when you set its budget at significantly less than the Cabinet Office's budget and expect it to be present in most of the world's countries, it is bound to be stretched to tearing point and beyond. There is no surge capacity - each time there is a crisis, people have to be stripped from existing jobs to man the trenches. It is simply unrealistic for anyone to expect the FCO to influence world public opinion. At best, it can have influence where it matters in governments.
The FCO has a history of navel gazing and dreaming of the sunny days of Empire. Money isn't the only issue there, and certainly wasn't before budgets were cut.
True, but it raises the question of what all our foreign aid money is achieving. Why doesn't Cameron summon the Eritrean ambassador, for example, to explain why his country is a virtual prison camp?
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Internal data but: Paul Waugh @paulwaugh .@YvetteCooperMP is neck and neck with @Corbyn4Leader in Cooper phone/text/canvass and other data soon to be released. Burnham 3rd.
Who would have thought the wife of Ed Balls could come up with all these smart alec leakings of voodoo polls? I mean Ed is sat at home minding the kids, isn't he. He cannot have time can he to be part of this can he? And poor wittering Yvette would never be a convenient prop for her behind the scenes rejected husband would she?
He's lecturing at Harvard now.
American universities are famous for the long summer breaks.
Wherever Ed is now, he most certainly is not “lecturing at Harvard”.
First day fall term classes are September 2nd, which is when lectures begin.
Though as Ed is an unpaid Research Fellow, he doesn’t lecture and probably doesn’t even have to keep term.
So he's shuffling around an empty campus pretending he's someone important. Probably painting classrooms, or reordering books in the library. "I could have been the Chancellor once..."
I'm surprised his old chum Gordon Brown hasn't offered Ed a high paying role within his charity, or pulled a few strings on the speaking circuit.
Accordingly to Brown, all those speeches etc he does, he doesn't end up making any money out of it....the fact his expenses are sky high of course has nothing to do with it.
... Brown on the other hand. I'm hopeful that he's just living off Mrs Brown's influence. I don't begrudge him a living, but under no circumstances whatsoever should he have responsibility for anything beyond his own lunch, and if that involves spending more than a fiver a counter signatory should be sought.
Why couldn't you have told Tony Blair that?
Blair knew what a horror story Brown was well before we did. He's haunted by it.
Brown (with Balls) stopped Blair taking the UK into the Euro currency. He introduced the economic convergence criteria, probably recognising we were not going to converge.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
That's because they all speak English, and not Italian or French.
Remind me, why wouldn't we want to be (the genuine) envy of the world? We are not, but we are not far behind. How many other countries would you prefer to be a citizen of and live in?
For he might have been a Roosian, A French, or Turk, or Proosian, Or perhaps Itali-an! But in spite of all temptations To belong to other nations, He remains an Englishman! He remains an Englishman!
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
That's because they all speak English, and not Italian or French.
Many Italians and French speak excellent English these days.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
That's because they all speak English, and not Italian or French.
The FCO has a history of navel gazing and dreaming of the sunny days of Empire. Money isn't the only issue there, and certainly wasn't before budgets were cut.
When do you think the cuts started?
By 1980, the FCO budget was already down 25% from when it was formed in 1968. In 1979 Maggie told the FCO in no uncertain terms that it was there to represent Britain to the world, not the world to Britain. The emphasis was very hard-nosed on promoting British interests rather than airy fairy political analysis or drawing up of grand strategies that the UK neither had the resources nor influence to implement.
And as figure 3 of the attached shows, FCO UK-based staff has fallen by nearly 50% since 1992 while the number of posts to be covered has drifted upwards.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
That's because they all speak English, and not Italian or French.
Nice to see you making excuses for people trying to enter the country illegally.
BTW English is an official language across the European Union.
I don't think that's true. There are plenty of migrants there that don't speak any English at all. Even when they find one on the news who speaks some English, it can be highly broken.
In France, there is a widespread belief that this crisis is all the UK's fault because we are so liberal in provision of housing and benefits to these people.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
These people are fleeing third world states, it's unsurprising that they wish to get out of France and Italy asap. They recognize the signs.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
The reality is that even living on the streets in scumville UK with no money is better than life in Syria or Eritrea. There is no way that our govt could be as unpleasant as theirs even under Nick Griffin.
Life in sunny Italy, and southern France must be much nicer too, and yet they keep heading north.
These people are fleeing third world states, it's unsurprising that they wish to get out of France and Italy asap. They recognize the signs.
Are you comparing France and Italy to Third World countries?
A few posters asked why Unison gave their second preference to Cooper? It's because Unison has a longstanding but informal policy of supporting women candidates as much as possible to reflect their majority female membership and under-representation in politics. That is also one reason why they backed Eagle and 2nd preference for Creasy in the deputy race. Lots of people expected Cooper to pick up the nomination on the back of this and representations were made at the highest level of the union. However the grassroots wanted Corbyn so that's who they have with a Cooper second preference as a consolation. Of course there was a chance that Burnham could have been that exceptional candidate who ensured the union to move away from this default position - but he really performed badly at the Unison hustings and the welfare bill vote was a killer for him.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
The World Service should be blasting out messages that the streets of the UK aren't paved with gold. Stick an ad at the front of every BBC show on the net. Show everyone the reality. (The Foreign Office really are a bunch of incompetent clowns).
Unfortunately the message that Britain isn't the envy of the world runs counter to the colonial guilt mindset that is common in that organisation.
If you think that Britain is crap why don't you move somewhere better?
A few posters asked why Unison gave their second preference to Cooper? It's because Unison has a longstanding but informal policy of supporting women candidates as much as possible to reflect their majority female membership and under-representation in politics. That is also one reason why they backed Eagle and 2nd preference for Creasy in the deputy race. Lots of people expected Cooper to pick up the nomination on the back of this and representations were made at the highest level of the union. However the grassroots wanted Corbyn so that's who they have with a Cooper second preference as a consolation. Of course there was a chance that Burnham could have been that exceptional candidate who ensured the union to move away from this default position - but he really performed badly at the Unison hustings and the welfare bill vote was a killer for him.
Supporting Women? Or you could have just said, Unison bowed to pressure and so dumped Cooper?
Basically I'm saying that a party responsible for materially aiding the Taliban, ISIS, the Khmer Rouge and Saddam Hussein probably shouldn't get on their high horse about a few diplomatic words about some minor local guerrillas.
Wait, who are you claiming materially aided the Taliban, and how are you claiming they materially aided them?
Don't know the details, but the US did fund the mujahideen fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. Maybe you could start your investigation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
I believe JWisemann was claiming that the Conservative Party funded them, although he remains notably silent on this matter. Perhaps he is still reeling from how silly he looked after he claimed that Hezbollah were a minor militia.
Given his remarkable grasp of foreign affairs, I am wondering if Mr Wisemann is actually David Miliband?
I don't think that's true. There are plenty of migrants there that don't speak any English at all. Even when they find one on the news who speaks some English, it can be highly broken.
In France, there is a widespread belief that this crisis is all the UK's fault because we are so liberal in provision of housing and benefits to these people.
But isn't that the issue - or part of it? We do provide by comparison with others remarkably generous housing and benefits. So we should stop doing that and make it clear (legislate, if necessary) that anyone coming here through Calais will not be able to make an asylum claim and will be charged with criminal offences - quite a lot appear to be happening judging by our TV screens.
Don't we also need to suggest to the French that they they destroy the camp in Calais?
"Balls will be expected to be on campus for at least three to four weeks each term over the course of his year-long unpaid appointment at Harvard’s Kennedy school, which he attended as a scholar."
That's not really a job is it. Unpaid, 3 weeks per term....
There's a word for that.
"Internship."
That would be exploration of the working class..... If there was anything to exploit of course?
If we could be sure that Cameron would not hand over a year before next GE, then next PM market looking tasty for Labour types given all today's Corbyn madness: Jarvis at 37, chukka 56. Wild carders will like Stella at 170.
May looking value at 9. If there's a China-inspired world recession and Boris fails as a middle-brow cabinet minister. Who knows?
The first test of Corbyn's leadership would be the Scottish election next year. Is he really going to turn things around for Scottish Labour? Seems a bit unlikely.
Changing subject back to the Dem nomination for 2016. Here's a piece from the Washington Times. The paper is ridiculously right wing and favours many a conspiracy theory, so caveat emptor. However, there is bad blood between Obama and the Clintons, Obama will want to protect his legacy which Hillary might undermine, and over the last two years a genuine bond has built up between Obama and Biden as witness at Beau Biden's funeral. Despite it's source, this is not far off some of what the Washington Post has been printing. It would, indeed, be intriguing if true. Time to short Hillary and long Biden?
The first test of Corbyn's leadership would be the Scottish election next year. Is he really going to turn things around for Scottish Labour? Seems a bit unlikely.
Hate to disappoint, but first test would be forming a shadow cabinet.
The first test of Corbyn's leadership would be the Scottish election next year. Is he really going to turn things around for Scottish Labour? Seems a bit unlikely.
Hate to disappoint, but first test would be forming a shadow cabinet.
That's easy: just use the Campaign Group membership.
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
And they wonder why the French and Italians don't welcome them with open arms?
Forget asylum. There's only one place they should be heading for if they do get through: jail.
Yesterday evening there was an interview with a W African at Calais who had paid people smugglers $3,000 - a huge amount for that African. Apparently they had sold the family home and most possessions in the hope that he could get to the UK and then bring them over.
Like I said why are they heading here.? What could they possibly get that's free and delivered right away that they cannot get anywhere else in Europe? ( if they can then why still come here?)
Mmmmm.... Now let me see.... Ha!! Maybe that's the problem?
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They were once quite fashionable - well in the 70s along with Great Danes and Afghan hounds.
Team Burnham data is based on 29,000 contacts with members - that's quite a sample. 1st prefs 10k AB; 8k JC; 2.7k YC; 1.6K LK
via @paulwaugh
Edited extra bit: Mr. Price, fancy that. Every team is finding their candidate is ahead. Gosh.
@paulwaugh: Team Burnham data:
Andy Burnham 37%
Jeremy Corbyn 28%
Yvette Cooper 10%
Liz Kendall 6%
Don't Know 21%
(Total 101 due to rounding)
On the Cooper news: not surprised. Burnham messed up massively regarding the welfare bill, and has been in free-fall ever since. His campaign has essentially considered of memes on immigration and playing the 'look-at-me-I'm-a-working-class-lad-from-Liverpool-done-good-I'm-so-ordinary-afterall-I-support-Everton' schtick. While I wouldn't say he's Ed Miliband with a scouse accent - he's not got Miliband's presentation issues - I think he may actually be a worst bet that Corbyn, and even Ed Miliband. At least Ed Miliband has some ideas. Burnham has none. We'd also have to put up with Rachel Reeves as Shadow Chancellor if Burnham wins.
It appears Cooper has decent shot at winning this whole thing, if Paul Waugh's tweet is true. I'd suggest Cooper should now start talking about any ideas she has to give herself some kind of momentum. The time for Burnham and Cooper to stop being mutes is now.
I think @Danny565 analysis on Burnham is spot on. This will be the second successive leadership election Burnham has been a flop.
I've also downloaded Windows 10. I like it so far
Wonder if the shifting fortunes of politics have altered the relationship dynamic....I guess you'd need to be in the Westminster bubble to find that one out
Also known as lion dogs - well very small ones... and prone to Small Dog Syndrome.
However that may be because I am on Cook Eng top scorer first innings @4.5.
Can't last.....
On first preferences at least - if these are his own figures then he is toast
via @ajarrodkimber
"Richard Burnett, chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, which represents lorry drivers, said the situation was "escalating".
He said: "We've got hundreds, thousands of examples of drivers that have been talking to us, telling us of their experiences where they've had 10-20 migrants surrounding their trucks, threatening them, taunting them, using bars and knives to bang on the sides of vehicles to threaten them and make them feel vulnerable. This is definitely escalating and it needs to be taken seriously."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33709244
I think no one is doubting at this stage Corbyn will get most 1st. Question is how many and split of other preferences.
Is Liz Kendall the only candidate not to have released private polling with themselves ahead?
Brown on the other hand. I'm hopeful that he's just living off Mrs Brown's influence. I don't begrudge him a living, but under no circumstances whatsoever should he have responsibility for anything beyond his own lunch, and if that involves spending more than a fiver a counter signatory should be sought.
Corbyn 2.64 / 2.68
Burnham 3 / 3.1
Cooper 3.6 / 3.7
Kendall 50 / 55
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.103946886
It gets more bonkers by the minute.
It seems clear that the result in first round will be:
1: Corbyn
2/3: Burnham and Cooper close
4: Kendall
Kendall is getting eliminated in round one and her transfers ought to push Cooper into second place.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/?publisherid=1736887&tduid=35947af6defab2a83c8dc52985c336df#/politics/market/1.103946886
Brown (with Balls) stopped Blair taking the UK into the Euro currency. He introduced the economic convergence criteria, probably recognising we were not going to converge.
A French, or Turk, or Proosian,
Or perhaps Itali-an!
But in spite of all temptations
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman!
He remains an Englishman!
By 1980, the FCO budget was already down 25% from when it was formed in 1968. In 1979 Maggie told the FCO in no uncertain terms that it was there to represent Britain to the world, not the world to Britain. The emphasis was very hard-nosed on promoting British interests rather than airy fairy political analysis or drawing up of grand strategies that the UK neither had the resources nor influence to implement.
And as figure 3 of the attached shows, FCO UK-based staff has fallen by nearly 50% since 1992 while the number of posts to be covered has drifted upwards.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmfaff/665/66505.htm
BTW English is an official language across the European Union.
I don't think that's true. There are plenty of migrants there that don't speak any English at all. Even when they find one on the news who speaks some English, it can be highly broken.
In France, there is a widespread belief that this crisis is all the UK's fault because we are so liberal in provision of housing and benefits to these people.
Seriously?
Cooper's data.
Here's that @YvetteForLabour data. Of 5k phone calls, Cooper 16%, Corbyn 15.5%, Burnham 12.2%, LK 1.3%. Undecided 51%
http://huff.to/1eAFxNe
Don't we also need to suggest to the French that they they destroy the camp in Calais?
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.103946886
Edit: Plus the Labour Party of course.
May looking value at 9. If there's a China-inspired world recession and Boris fails as a middle-brow cabinet minister. Who knows?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/28/charles-hurt-obama-holds-trump-card-in-democratic-/?page=2
"Well, perhaps I'll change my mind"
"So, I'll put you down as undecided, then."
I can imagine them saying ''come on, help Yvette crack through that glass ceiling, and be Labour's first female leader.''
In fairness Burnham-Watson is a god-awful duo.
Mmmmm.... Now let me see.... Ha!! Maybe that's the problem?