Farron will be next LD leader. Clegg's leadership has pretty much been a failure. I think it'll take a generation for both the LDs and Labour to come back from this.
Not if Ashdown has any say in it - there is no love lost there at all.
Ashdown has backed Clegg, who is so toasted, he may as well be ashes.
Respect to BenM - honest post. Not sure the prescription is correct. Sturgeon has demonstrated that a leftist platform need not be unpopular. Miliband failed for want of credibility (and because his shadow cabinet largely let him swing), not because he positioned himself too far to the left. Indeed polls show his modest forays to the left were all popular, or at least populist.
If they get a majority, then the Conservatives need to hold out sweeties not only to Scotland, but also the north. If we are truly to be One Nation, that is.
HS2 and HS3 might be small steps in that process.
(I knew I'd squeeze HS2 into a post this evening somehow)
I was rather looking forward to potentially doing some serious ribbing on here in the event of EICIPM, so it's only fair that the PBTories on here have their fun.
Dr Éoin Clarke @LabourEoin 16m 16 minutes ago Still see no reason, whatsoever, to change my view that David Cameron's career is over.
He really is a total moron. Why he has so many followers I have no idea, when he is consistently caught out lying and / or just plain wrong.
Dr Eoin is one of those irritating overeducated blogcentric media nodes who somehow manages to consistently beam out negative quantities of information. I'm just glad he hasn't turned into a media darling a la Owen Jones.
Douglas Alexander succumbs to the SNP tidal wave, could it be touch and go between Tories and Labour to be official Scottish opposition at Westminster. Gracious speech by young SNP candidate
Respect to BenM - honest post. Not sure the prescription is correct. Sturgeon has demonstrated that a leftist platform need not be unpopular. Miliband failed for want of credibility (and because his shadow cabinet largely let him swing), not because he positioned himself too far to the left. Indeed polls show his modest forays to the left were all popular, or at least populist.
It's the Scots voting for the bigger free money tree on offer from the SNP
Congratulations to the Conservatives. A majority is looking a good possibility now.
An utter unmitigated disaster for Labour who'll be wracked by existential crisis and another leadership election. A left programme has been soundly repudiated. Labour needs another Blairite.
This is a mandate for the Conservative programme which I wish well for the sake of the country.
Still a great privilege to watch democracy in action. The people have spoken.
A top post, I have liked your honesty and lack of complacency during the past weeks
BenM has to be one of the most honest and decent posters on the site.
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Been lurking long?
I've been posting here since before the last election. Posted quite a lot when we had disqus, but hardly ever in the past couple of years.
Sadly we lost quite a few interesting posters in the Disqus to Vanilla conversion who never came back (or at least, posted) and there were more before that in the move from the site's own commenting system to Disqus...
Lucy has been around for years but I wish she would post more! (I wish more women would post in general, what with being a bit more than half of the electorate and all...)
I was rather looking forward to potentially doing some serious ribbing on here in the event of EICIPM, so it's only fair that the PBTories on here have their fun.
That's sweet. There's a lot of magnanimity on here.
It is moments like this that I realise what a knob I would have been if elected at 20. Crackingly good speech for someone of this young lady's experience. Totally disagree with her, but she'll go far.
Dr Éoin Clarke @LabourEoin 16m 16 minutes ago Still see no reason, whatsoever, to change my view that David Cameron's career is over.
He really is a total moron. Why he has so many followers I have no idea, when he is consistently caught out lying and / or just plain wrong.
Dr Eoin is one of those irritating overeducated blogcentric media nodes who somehow manages to consistently beam out negative quantities of information. I'm just glad he hasn't turned into a media darling a la Owen Jones.
The other day I was amused to see Nick Palmer (ex-maybe-not-ex-MP) had retweeted something from Eoin.
I was rather looking forward to potentially doing some serious ribbing on here in the event of EICIPM, so it's only fair that the PBTories on here have their fun.
That's sweet. There's a lot of magnanimity on here.
The alternative is 5 years of grinding denial! Best to just try and accept it!
This is a cultural tsunami. Glasgow no longer belongs to Labour. I never thought I would see that in my lifetime. Thought the Gorbals Micks would rule for ever.
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Respect to BenM - honest post. Not sure the prescription is correct. Sturgeon has demonstrated that a leftist platform need not be unpopular. Miliband failed for want of credibility (and because his shadow cabinet largely let him swing), not because he positioned himself too far to the left. Indeed polls show his modest forays to the left were all popular, or at least populist.
Tonight of all nights is not the night to be using pre-election polls as supporting evidence of why people secretly really like Labour, but because they were only half-heartedly left-wing, decided it would be better to vote for a more full-fat option instead (clearly not Lib Dem on these numbers, so presumably it's a Socialists For Cameron/Farage effect).
I for one would like to thank Nicola Sturgeon for being instrumental in saving us from Ed.
It might be that the Conservatives did not need the SNP.
Well, anecdote alert, my Mum (from the Rhondda) voted Tory for the first time in her life at 78. Reason being that she didn't like the idea of a Labour/SNP coalition.
Given that she STILL refers to the blessed Margaret as 'Thatcher the Snatcher', you may colour me surprised. Of course, she lives in an unimportant seat, but I'd hazard a guess she's not alone.
I for one would like to thank Nicola Sturgeon for being instrumental in saving us from Ed.
It might be that the Conservatives did not need the SNP.
Well, anecdote alert, my Mum (from the Rhondda) voted Tory for the first time in her life at 78. Reason being that she didn't like the idea of a Labour/SNP coalition.
Given that she STILL refers to the blessed Margaret as 'Thatcher the Snatcher', you may colour me surprised. Of course, she lives in an unimportant seat, but I'd hazard a guess she's not alone.
The Tories were hoping for an 'English [and Welsh] veer' in the face of the SNP menace. Looks like they've got it.
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Not Dougie Alexander
Hahahaha
Why was Dougie even caring about spoilt ballots?
SNP 23,548
Lab 17,864
Con 3,526
LD 1,010
SSP 278
HS2 and HS3 might be small steps in that process.
(I knew I'd squeeze HS2 into a post this evening somehow)
Hartlepool?!
Who's next?
And kudos to you over Scotland and Scotterdammerung! I know her. There is a revolution. Just not the one she wants.
Douglas Alexander out.
nobswigs are going to do with their time now?The short answer for Labour, I don't know....I said this before how piss poor the Labour shadow cabinet is.
Lucy has been around for years but I wish she would post more! (I wish more women would post in general, what with being a bit more than half of the electorate and all...)
LDs massacred, UKIP suffering from "Alliance disease".
Also: Black is doing a decent acceptance speech - even if I don't like her policies.
Lab +3.5
Con +3.7
NEW THREAD
And yes --- there it is 'Scrapping trident'
Thats what its all about from the far left in Scotland.
It will be safely ignored now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/S14000059
Good.
Given that she STILL refers to the blessed Margaret as 'Thatcher the Snatcher', you may colour me surprised. Of course, she lives in an unimportant seat, but I'd hazard a guess she's not alone.
It may be the only way to preserve the Union.
Will it be followed in years to come with a CaTaffStrophe?