Just bumped into CEO of the borough im in who is also returning officer.He stated that they are expecting a very high turnout based on the initial few hours voting between 75 and 80%. Its a SW LD/Tory marginal.
Twitter has a fair smattering of young people who haven't registered, their registration got lost or they are registered in the wrong place - and they've just realised it.
If the final result is something like 35-32 to the Tories, does that count as a failure of polling, or is it all MOE stuff? It looks to me like they are pretty well covered unless there is a 5%+ gap between the two parties. That said, has there ever been so much coalescence at the end of a campaign. Even last time, there was some divergence.
If Fisher is right it probably explains Cameron's multiple visits to LD seats over the last week or so.
I can't help thinking that from here on in, there has to be much more attention paid to individual regions within England. We have always talked about the north/south divide, but it is increasingly clear that the east is very different to the west.
The WHO report today came out with some very concerning numbers about levels of obesity in the UK. Apparently, 64% of women and 75% of men will be overweight by 2030. That's a sad state to be in as a country. We really need to do a much better job of teaching children how to manage nutrition and fitness when they're at school.
I know: I am being a mischievous minx. Delicious, though!
Anyway, to continue my jeu d'esprit:-
1. It would likely stop Scottish independence. 2. If UKIP are a busted flush tomorrow, he wouldn't have to fear much on that score. 3. The Tories would be in the politicial equivalent of a psychiatric ward. 4. The Lib Dems would be on side. 5. He could get some token back from the EU enabling him to say that he had achieved something by contrast with the Tories. 6. The City wouldn't care that much provided they can carry on making money and being the leading financial centre. 6. It would be vv difficult to reverse so he would go down in history. 7. And a relatively strong British economy might be the fillip the EZ needs.
I'm not putting my personal views here. Just putting forward a madcap idea since we need some fun on a day like this.
But if it happens I will be an unparalleled political seer and will be available to offer my services since I will no doubt be unemployed following the Terror of the Milliband Tax Regime.
On a more serious point, a small Q at my polling station and I made one of the officers laugh by saying that we had a choice between the Cr*p and the Complacent.
Telegraph editor sends emails to subscribers telling them to vote Tory. Some of them are not pleased since they signed up for technology and finance emails:
"So many Cabinet ministers have now told me the ‘surge’ will come only today that I think they really believe it. Note that the PM and George Osborne themselves use this oddly quasi-religious phrase that ‘I have faith in the common sense of the British people’. And it does feel like blind faith, a something-in-my-waters, bunion-feeling sentiment. The one thing the pollsters may fall back on is that they simply can’t be blamed for not picking up a last minute, on-the-day ‘surge’. But failing to pick up any underlying movement in the final week of the campaign would be problematic for their reputations."
"Researchers then converted this into the number of seats the parties could win in the General Election - with Conservatives on 237, UKIP on 221 and Labour in third place with 125"
Are you asking how they are voting or are they just telling you because they see the rosette?
Either way, that's a minimum of 33% of them voting UKIP. Small sample - obviously! And assumes they are not fibbing.
It's a self-selecting sample too (ie voting during the day in a specific location - most unlikely to be representative of the constituency as a whole).
But I must admit I've never had so many people tell me they've voting Green while telling even in solidly Green areas (yes, there are some).
Telegraph editor sends emails to subscribers telling them to vote Tory. Some of them are not pleased since they signed up for technology and finance emails:
The WHO report today came out with some very concerning numbers about levels of obesity in the UK. Apparently, 64% of women and 75% of men will be overweight by 2030. That's a sad state to be in as a country. We really need to do a much better job of teaching children how to manage nutrition and fitness when they're at school.
At least we're not as bad as Ireland where 90% will be overweight by 2030.
@guardian_clark: Watch this space for the final final ICM poll which I hope won't be too long coming, and provides one final twist @martinboon
Sounds like a Lab ICM lead to me..
Yes, I think so. There's been a late move to Labour, not the Tories. Why on earth this has happened, I have no idea, but I doubt ICM would buck that trend.
Are you asking how they are voting or are they just telling you because they see the rosette?
Either way, that's a minimum of 33% of them voting UKIP. Small sample - obviously! And assumes they are not fibbing.
It's a self-selecting sample too (ie voting during the day in a specific location - most unlikely to be representative of the constituency as a whole).
But I must admit I've never had so many people tell me they've voting Green while telling even in solidly Green areas (yes, there are some).
Oh it's a very, very, very poor predictor of outcome. Interesting, nevertheless.
@guardian_clark: Watch this space for the final final ICM poll which I hope won't be too long coming, and provides one final twist @martinboon
Sounds like a Lab ICM lead to me..
As the last icm was 35-35 a twist could be either. Given the apparent nudge to labour tho you'd tend to agree. Or maybe not. Maybe there are some like me who vote tory at very last minute.
The problem for the Tories and their late surge is that ALL the evidence is for it going the other way, they are certainly forming up their own vote but it looks like the Greens are going to hold their nose for Lab, there is no evidence yet that the Blue Kippers are reciprocating. Surely at so,e point the betting has to move once those 'in the know' start to smell profit
The problem for the Tories and their late surge is that ALL the evidence is for it going the other way, they are certainly forming up their own vote but it looks like the Greens are going to hold their nose for Lab, there is no evidence yet that the Blue Kippers are reciprocating. Surely at so,e point the betting has to move once those 'in the know' start to smell profit
I don't just think it is "nose holding". Ed has given left wing voters some reason to vote for him, Tories approach is based upon their polling guy Cooper who told them that EU was peak UKIP moment and it would be rapidly downhill from there and the vast majority would just come back the Tories by the time of the GE, so the Tories focus was to be on the middle ground e.g. more spending on unreformed NHS, more free childcare, continuing to spend a lot of foreign aid...a lot of the sort of stuff that is exactly what right wing UKIP types don't want to hear.
@guardian_clark: Watch this space for the final final ICM poll which I hope won't be too long coming, and provides one final twist @martinboon
Sounds like a Lab ICM lead to me..
Yes, I think so. There's been a late move to Labour, not the Tories. Why on earth this has happened, I have no idea, but I doubt ICM would buck that trend.
Particularly not if the Guardian are tweeting it.
All those lefties saying they they were going to vote Green/SNP/UKIP/stay at home have gone back where they belong when push came to shove...
The same happened in 2010 to some degree. If you remember Lab did quite well given the circumstances....
If ICM as it appears now show a Lab lead, it's only an additional 460 polled.... That would indicate a pretty massive shift if it affects headline figures!
"So many Cabinet ministers have now told me the ‘surge’ will come only today that I think they really believe it. Note that the PM and George Osborne themselves use this oddly quasi-religious phrase that ‘I have faith in the common sense of the British people’. And it does feel like blind faith, a something-in-my-waters, bunion-feeling sentiment. The one thing the pollsters may fall back on is that they simply can’t be blamed for not picking up a last minute, on-the-day ‘surge’. But failing to pick up any underlying movement in the final week of the campaign would be problematic for their reputations."
It's less a surge, more a rally. And it's around Labour, not the Tories.
None of it makes sense. I simply can't work this election out.
Tories going, going...and soon to be gone. It's not the result I would prefer, but at least 5 years of saying Labour would win will not go out the window (even though I had to revise it from Lab maj to plurality)
If ICM as it appears now show a Lab lead, it's only an additional 460 polled.... That would indicate a pretty massive shift if it affects headline figures!
"So many Cabinet ministers have now told me the ‘surge’ will come only today that I think they really believe it. Note that the PM and George Osborne themselves use this oddly quasi-religious phrase that ‘I have faith in the common sense of the British people’. And it does feel like blind faith, a something-in-my-waters, bunion-feeling sentiment. The one thing the pollsters may fall back on is that they simply can’t be blamed for not picking up a last minute, on-the-day ‘surge’. But failing to pick up any underlying movement in the final week of the campaign would be problematic for their reputations."
It's less a surge, more a rally. And it's around Labour, not the Tories.
None of it makes sense. I simply can't work this election out.
It's more a hardening of certainty to vote I think
If ICM as it appears now show a Lab lead, it's only an additional 460 polled.... That would indicate a pretty massive shift if it affects headline figures!
or just margin of error! think about it.
Presumably we'll be able to see for ourselves once they put up tables.
Or did they not publish tables for the "preliminary" result yesterday?
Er ICM is not out yet. A final twist could be ICM moving the other way.
A late Labour swing could be people giving Ed the benefit of the doubt. The Tory vote, such that it is, was never really in doubt. So not that much scope for late swings. Maybe.
The WHO report today came out with some very concerning numbers about levels of obesity in the UK. Apparently, 64% of women and 75% of men will be overweight by 2030. That's a sad state to be in as a country. We really need to do a much better job of teaching children how to manage nutrition and fitness when they're at school.
At least we're not as bad as Ireland where 90% will be overweight by 2030.
It's no wonder the West is being outcompeted by Asia. It's hard to have the same amount of energy if you're carrying around so much excess weight. I don't think any of the political parties have appreciated the importance of this issue yet.
"So many Cabinet ministers have now told me the ‘surge’ will come only today that I think they really believe it. Note that the PM and George Osborne themselves use this oddly quasi-religious phrase that ‘I have faith in the common sense of the British people’. And it does feel like blind faith, a something-in-my-waters, bunion-feeling sentiment. The one thing the pollsters may fall back on is that they simply can’t be blamed for not picking up a last minute, on-the-day ‘surge’. But failing to pick up any underlying movement in the final week of the campaign would be problematic for their reputations."
It's less a surge, more a rally. And it's around Labour, not the Tories.
None of it makes sense. I simply can't work this election out.
My notoriously unreliable gut says that a surprising number of people did not seen to believe Labour could win, but the reality of the coalition mathetmatics and lack of movement in the polls seems to have finally convinced people in the past day or so, and now perhaps Lab people considering staying at home because what's the point, are now realising they could help tip Lab from a good result to a great result.
What movement there is does appear to be toward Labour, in general.
If ICM as it appears now show a Lab lead, it's only an additional 460 polled.... That would indicate a pretty massive shift if it affects headline figures!
Watch out for over excited posts from ickle 'pouter and his squirrel companion, since he's in on the poll result.
Ahem. Anecdotal argument against postal voting (Health warning: it's the Mash):
“Guess what, postal voters: I shot a load of zoo animals this morning, for no reason. And what are you going to do about it? Nothing, because you’ve already voted for me just to save yourself five minutes’ walk to a primary school.”
I'm still thinking the Tories will be ahead by 10 seats.
But I'm very sanguine* about the result. I harbour none of the visceral, irrational hatred I had for Gordon Brown back in 2010 and given that I like following politics for the blood-sport, I think Ed Miliband would be very interesting viewing as PM.
I still can't imagine it, not even now, despite its likelihood.
Ed Miliband as PM! Ed Miliband meeting Putin and Obama, shaking hands with the Queen once a week and greeting diplomats at Chequers?
Ed Miliband whom even Damien Mcbride (his mate and colleague) disparages and admits can't make a decision for toffee.
This will be fun.
*It's easy to be sanguine in Wales. We have no money anyway - we just get it off the EU
@guardian_clark: Watch this space for the final final ICM poll which I hope won't be too long coming, and provides one final twist @martinboon
if lab move ahead then the impression of a late swing but to Labour will be complete.
what fun....
There has been no late swing.
I thought the Question Time debate was a disaster ! The man can't eat a bacon sandwich. He knifed his brother in the back. Didn't he say the Labour Party "did not overspend".
Surely, there could not be any late swing to Labour. Could it ?
The WHO report today came out with some very concerning numbers about levels of obesity in the UK. Apparently, 64% of women and 75% of men will be overweight by 2030. That's a sad state to be in as a country. We really need to do a much better job of teaching children how to manage nutrition and fitness when they're at school.
At least we're not as bad as Ireland where 90% will be overweight by 2030.
It's no wonder the West is being outcompeted by Asia. It's hard to have the same amount of energy if you're carrying around so much excess weight. I don't think any of the political parties have appreciated the importance of this issue yet.
The direct and indirect cost to the country is enormous.
What if ICM have detected a last minute shift rightwards and are holding as long as possible so they can say they are the only firm to have picked up on this? Still think it will be 35/34 or 33 in fav of Lab though
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All pollsters behaving as if part of a herd. No one wants to be left out out on their own.
It was not me, guv !
Everyone knows this because @MikeK told us.
Test
(All will be revealed shortly!)
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9350
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9281
Cam could be back at No.10 with 36% if Labour get less than 33%.
All the final polls so far seem to be showing a move towards Labour...
hmm.... that is a little sub optimal.
not long to wait at least.
Then the exit. First time I've ever been exit polled.
The headline is wrong
@guardian_clark: Watch this space for the final final ICM poll which I hope won't be too long coming, and provides one final twist @martinboon
Very odd
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/596263321361379328
what fun....
Its a SW LD/Tory marginal.
Funny thing is I didn't decide til I went into the polling booth!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3070470/Google-Search-tips-Cameron-win-election-Nigel-Farage-s-Ukip-beat-Labour-Liberal-Democrats.html
This looks over!
Is it, you, Avery?
49 voters
16 have volunteered they are Ukip
If Fisher is right it probably explains Cameron's multiple visits to LD seats over the last week or so.
I can't help thinking that from here on in, there has to be much more attention paid to individual regions within England. We have always talked about the north/south divide, but it is increasingly clear that the east is very different to the west.
The detailed figures for this poll are not available on their website.
I know: I am being a mischievous minx. Delicious, though!
Anyway, to continue my jeu d'esprit:-
1. It would likely stop Scottish independence.
2. If UKIP are a busted flush tomorrow, he wouldn't have to fear much on that score.
3. The Tories would be in the politicial equivalent of a psychiatric ward.
4. The Lib Dems would be on side.
5. He could get some token back from the EU enabling him to say that he had achieved something by contrast with the Tories.
6. The City wouldn't care that much provided they can carry on making money and being the leading financial centre.
6. It would be vv difficult to reverse so he would go down in history.
7. And a relatively strong British economy might be the fillip the EZ needs.
I'm not putting my personal views here. Just putting forward a madcap idea since we need some fun on a day like this.
But if it happens I will be an unparalleled political seer and will be available to offer my services since I will no doubt be unemployed following the Terror of the Milliband Tax Regime.
On a more serious point, a small Q at my polling station and I made one of the officers laugh by saying that we had a choice between the Cr*p and the Complacent.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/07/daily-telegraph-tories-email-david-cameron-labour
"So many Cabinet ministers have now told me the ‘surge’ will come only today that I think they really believe it.
Note that the PM and George Osborne themselves use this oddly quasi-religious phrase that ‘I have faith in the common sense of the British people’. And it does feel like blind faith, a something-in-my-waters, bunion-feeling sentiment.
The one thing the pollsters may fall back on is that they simply can’t be blamed for not picking up a last minute, on-the-day ‘surge’. But failing to pick up any underlying movement in the final week of the campaign would be problematic for their reputations."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3070470/Google-Search-tips-Cameron-win-election-Nigel-Farage-s-Ukip-beat-Labour-Liberal-Democrats.html#ixzz3ZRudjKoB
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Question: Who are the idiots ? These "researchers" or their bosses and paymasters ?
Is this why fees went up to £9000 per year to pay for this ?
Kingston and Surbiton searching for, wait a minute, Nigel Farage.
John [ Johannes ] Vorster next.
But I must admit I've never had so many people tell me they've voting Green while telling even in solidly Green areas (yes, there are some).
Particularly not if the Guardian are tweeting it.
Surely at so,e point the betting has to move once those 'in the know' start to smell profit
Go with yout gut.
have sold it, as it seems too high to me....
still, if maidstone & the weald has been gained by the libs, who knows...
The same happened in 2010 to some degree. If you remember Lab did quite well given the circumstances....
Don't expect to win, mind :-)
Tiny anecdote: the two Conservative voters in our office who live in H&WG have both - after much dithering - voted tactically for Lynne Featherstone.
None of it makes sense. I simply can't work this election out.
Or did they not publish tables for the "preliminary" result yesterday?
A late Labour swing could be people giving Ed the benefit of the doubt. The Tory vote, such that it is, was never really in doubt. So not that much scope for late swings. Maybe.
Mind you 20/75 now
What movement there is does appear to be toward Labour, in general.
Pic of East Midlands Labour MEP GOTV there
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEZd8PvW0AIdoae.jpg
“Guess what, postal voters: I shot a load of zoo animals this morning, for no reason. And what are you going to do about it? Nothing, because you’ve already voted for me just to save yourself five minutes’ walk to a primary school.”
BTW, when are the Lib Dem's starting their GE campaign?
But I'm very sanguine* about the result. I harbour none of the visceral, irrational hatred I had for Gordon Brown back in 2010 and given that I like following politics for the blood-sport, I think Ed Miliband would be very interesting viewing as PM.
I still can't imagine it, not even now, despite its likelihood.
Ed Miliband as PM! Ed Miliband meeting Putin and Obama, shaking hands with the Queen once a week and greeting diplomats at Chequers?
Ed Miliband whom even Damien Mcbride (his mate and colleague) disparages and admits can't make a decision for toffee.
This will be fun.
*It's easy to be sanguine in Wales. We have no money anyway - we just get it off the EU
I thought the Question Time debate was a disaster ! The man can't eat a bacon sandwich. He knifed his brother in the back. Didn't he say the Labour Party "did not overspend".
Surely, there could not be any late swing to Labour. Could it ?
Still think it will be 35/34 or 33 in fav of Lab though
Only two tellers, Con and Lab. A few posters in windows on the way, all Labour.