More realistically. Boris won London with a lot of help from Ken. I believe I am right in saying that in the London Assembly on the same day as the last mayoral election Labour won most seats.
"He was mobbed when he got there, I heard someone say 'I havent seen anything like this since Elvis was here.. ' there were two grown men crying saying 'Thank you Thank you Mr Farage' "
When was Elvis in Thurrock?! Elvis Costello??!!
Think I got the value w 16/1 though, and I think 6/1 is still value.
It remains a fact that despite UKIP's successes in the locals in these seats Labour will have 10x more councillors, the tories more than 7 times and even the Lib Dems 2.5x. And they will not control a single council. Impressive but a long way to go.
And the ??? is why their "forecast" was a guess. As was Prof Fisher who gave Labour a projection of +130 but "doesn't have a figure for UKIP because his model doesn't cover it" according to The Guardian.
Two psephologists. Two Labour forecasts at opposite ends of the spectrum. Generated by two models which do not account for the fact that we are now in a 4 party world. In other words useless outdated guesses.
RP
Save your energy and imagination for finding a replacement for Ed Miliband.
There is no spin possible that can turn Labour's performance into a triumph.
And it is not the psephologists who are to blame.
Not a triumph, not a disaster. Steady as she goes. A hung parliament in 2015, Labour most seats very possible. UKIP emerging as the main opposition to Labour in many parts of the north, but not winning seats. But Ed is certainly a drag on the Labour vote.
I was on the train yesterday going to Fenchurch St from Upminster, on the quiet coach, where phones have to be switched off and converssations are supposed to be hushed. Two African women got on at Barking and were more or less shouting at each other in conversation.
An old bloke pulled them up and pointed out this was the quiet coach. I must say I couldnt help instinctively feeling he only said it because they were black and spoke in a strange accent. My old lefty spite rearing its ugly head? He may well have said the same to white loudmouths I dont know.
I was glad they shut up though, was doing my head in.
You have a strange perception of drifting , it has hardly moved in a week and still sitting around 62% of votes for YES and odds exactly as they were a week ago give or take a minute fraction either way. Seems it is your brain that is drifting.
You seem confused. The committee including cross party MSP's wrote the report and published it , that is democracy. It was not an SNP report. You are trying to conflate sour grapes with democracy and not painting a pretty picture.
I know 'facts' aren't your strong suit.....
Nationalist MSPs on a Holyrood committee examining the issue softened criticisms of the Scottish Government's stance in a major report to be published today, against the will of opposition members.
You do not seem to get the fact that a committee is made up of a number of members and the majority opinion is what is produced. Trying to say that because the minority parties did not get everything they wanted in the report as being suppression is laughable. Do you think the Tories do everything Nick Clegg tells them he wants, be serious. You have lost sight of reality with your hatred, I certainly do not expect David Cameron to implement SNP or Labour policies, why do you think it is sensible the other way round.
In Westminster' Parliamentary Cttes aim for consensus, and when that is not possible, publish minority reports.
In SNPLand, the SNP bulldoze dissenting opinion and veto the publication of a minority dissenting view.....
Where did you see there was not a consensus. Some weasely words fro a Tory paper and you make that into "suppression". Have you got names of MSP's who claim they were ignored and that their opinions were suppressed and excluded from the report.
BTW: May I add my thanks to AndyJS and the others on PB who have been providing a much better and more coherent summary of the results and swings than the mainstream media seem to be able to manage.
So far,labour are doing pretty well in my eye's,labour doing well in marginal seats,london turning red and I must say the ukip surge is hurting tories in seats than labour.
Labour are doing pretty well in my eye's,labour doing well in marginal seats,london turning red and I must admit the ukip surge is hitting tory seats more than labour.
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More realistically. Boris won London with a lot of help from Ken. I believe I am right in saying that in the London Assembly on the same day as the last mayoral election Labour won most seats.
I hope you don't speak French on trains.
But if you do, "incroyable" works quite well.
"He was mobbed when he got there, I heard someone say 'I havent seen anything like this since Elvis was here.. ' there were two grown men crying saying 'Thank you Thank you Mr Farage' "
When was Elvis in Thurrock?! Elvis Costello??!!
Think I got the value w 16/1 though, and I think 6/1 is still value.
Prob about 9/4 in my book
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27541883
But this is no time for jokes. A truly irreplacable loss for Glasgow and all if the building and its contents are lost.
But if you do, "incroyable" works quite well.
I was on the train yesterday going to Fenchurch St from Upminster, on the quiet coach, where phones have to be switched off and converssations are supposed to be hushed. Two African women got on at Barking and were more or less shouting at each other in conversation.
An old bloke pulled them up and pointed out this was the quiet coach. I must say I couldnt help instinctively feeling he only said it because they were black and spoke in a strange accent. My old lefty spite rearing its ugly head? He may well have said the same to white loudmouths I dont know.
I was glad they shut up though, was doing my head in.
For the locals I think I will be more or less correct.