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  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Will he be framed?
    Window framed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,920

    Epstein and others were disgusting

    Can someone explain why the abused women have not named those involved and criminal charges laid

    Surely there has to be criminal trials

    I would just say I have little knowledge of US laws

    That's to assume that they didn't name any names.
    As for charges, we have the example of Epstein himself, who was complicit in everything that went on, being given a massively lending plea deal. Wealthy people on the US can delay justice for a very long time, and of course in this case both local and national political influence is involved.

    On the former point, there are numerous allegations out there; they just never got much reporting or credence.
    As an example, this was posted today.

    You might recall the allegations against Trump in the latest Epstein files released yesterday. They were made by a woman who was 16 at the time. She claimed that three brothers, Oren, Alan and Tal (two of which were twins) raped her and her friends at Epstein's estate and that Trump and Clinton partook in orgies with underaged women, including herself.

    This is where things get really interesting though. Three brothers, Oren, Alon and Tal Alexander (two of which are twins) are literally on trial right now in Florida for sex trafficking, and one of the key witnesses in their case was 16 at the time she was allegedly sexually assaulted by them.

    What's even more interesting, is that there is literally a photo of Oren Alexander in the Epstein files, standing with two women whose faces have been redacted.

    So why would this victim tell such an elaborate story that now, years later seems true (given the trial) but make up the fact that Clinton and Trump were involved?..

    https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/2017623157822124400
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

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    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,920

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Yes, but this is all just virtue signalling. Lots of likes blah blah blah.

    People voted for Trump because they thought that's the only way they'd get the policies they really wanted. The fact they did so, despite his despicable character, speaks volumes.

    That's what people should be focussing and reflecting upon, because it's the truly material factor here.
    "Just virtue signalling" blah blah blah.

    You in turn should perhaps be reflecting on what Trump's opponents predicted, and how those predictions (which I believed you treated with considerable scepticism at the time ?) have turned out so far.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 100,848
    edited 4:22PM

    Scott_xP said:

    @milesklee.bsky.social‬

    Musk has been spamming crap about SpaceX and Grok all day but now every single reply to any of his posts is someone calling him a pedophile. the stage has been set for something historic

    Is this really how some people choose to spend their free time?
    It takes a few seconds, hardly much of their time, so I've always found that to be a rather silly complaint to frivilous or petty trolling. Is it still silly to do it? Sure, but as a complaint about their 'free time' it falls apart because of how little time it takes.

    Musk, on the other hand, spends an inordinate amount of time online being an edgelord, even if we assume he is doing a lot of it inbetween important businessman stuff and billionaire pursuits.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,482
    edited 4:20PM
    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    I mean the Democrats now. I am not talking about any theoretical leader designated as a Democrat - I'm not bothered about political labels.

    The UK is not the US. However, there are some commonalities, and I believe that progressivism in both countries weakens everything around it like deathwatch beetle. The UK is a gentler and more polite society, and our reversal of progressive politics and its hold over our institutions will not be the same as the US, but it must be equally thorough.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,332
    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 36,939
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    I don't believe Kamala was as weak a candidate as Fox News and News Max would have had us believe.

    The border narrative would have been too much for any Dem to win.

    Although being a woman of colour perhaps didn't help.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    I’ve long thought that the drugs approach is wrong in most of the West.

    You either need to be Singapore/Dubai/Bangkok, with actual life sentences for small amounts, or you need to be totally liberal and sell the stuff in pharmacies, produced by companies with proper facilities and standards.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868

    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
    Or the opposite. Police the consumption and dealing of drugs to kill demand. No demand, no supply.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,321
    Andy_JS said:

    Sir Useless flying back from China with virtually nothing then, absolutely worth it.

    There's always 30 day travel without visas for British citizens.
    First prize: 30 days visa free travel in China.

    Second prize: 60 days visa free travel in China.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,191
    Nigelb said:

    Epstein and others were disgusting

    Can someone explain why the abused women have not named those involved and criminal charges laid

    Surely there has to be criminal trials

    I would just say I have little knowledge of US laws

    That's to assume that they didn't name any names.
    As for charges, we have the example of Epstein himself, who was complicit in everything that went on, being given a massively lending plea deal. Wealthy people on the US can delay justice for a very long time, and of course in this case both local and national political influence is involved.

    On the former point, there are numerous allegations out there; they just never got much reporting or credence.
    As an example, this was posted today.

    You might recall the allegations against Trump in the latest Epstein files released yesterday. They were made by a woman who was 16 at the time. She claimed that three brothers, Oren, Alan and Tal (two of which were twins) raped her and her friends at Epstein's estate and that Trump and Clinton partook in orgies with underaged women, including herself.

    This is where things get really interesting though. Three brothers, Oren, Alon and Tal Alexander (two of which are twins) are literally on trial right now in Florida for sex trafficking, and one of the key witnesses in their case was 16 at the time she was allegedly sexually assaulted by them.

    What's even more interesting, is that there is literally a photo of Oren Alexander in the Epstein files, standing with two women whose faces have been redacted.

    So why would this victim tell such an elaborate story that now, years later seems true (given the trial) but make up the fact that Clinton and Trump were involved?..

    https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/2017623157822124400
    Thanks for that
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,332
    a

    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
    Or the opposite. Police the consumption and dealing of drugs to kill demand. No demand, no supply.
    That’s been tried for decades. And failed.

    In the USSR, the KGB failed to stamp out drugs. That is, one of the largest and most unconstrained secret police organisations in human history barely made a dent. With courts that rubber stamped arrests…
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,131

    Sean_F said:

    Epstein and others were disgusting

    Can someone explain why the abused women have not named those involved and criminal charges laid

    Surely there has to be criminal trials

    I would just say I have little knowledge of US laws

    One or two of those who spoke out are now with the angels.

    Does anyone still believe Epstein topped himself?
    No, I believe that he was murdered.
    I think it possible he was pushed into suicide - as in “if you do yourself in, then it will be better than what will happen to you later”.
    ... and don't worry we'll fix the video recordings too.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,160
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Bold comment, and an odd time to make it you'd think, when Trump is working hard to get some kind of deal Putin can live with (even if it is far below his initial expectations) and so declare it a success.
    The situation inside Russia is finally beginning to change. The Chechen leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, is on his deathbed and with him will pass a significant element of the Power Vertical. The Russian Army has been taking an absolute pasting- an estimated 40,000 dead in the past month alone (for context only 25,000 Soviet troops died in nine years of the Afghan war). Equipment failures and intelligence mistakes on the front line have allowed the Ukrainian armed forces to improve their situation quite dramatically. The Russian economy is being squeezed even further as the shadow fleet is being slowly rounded up and the oil and gas infrastructure is failing under repeated military attacks from Ukrainian missiles and drones. The regime of the Mullahs in Iran is under severe pressure, and Russia has no means to defend it. Even Beijing is now far less reliable as Xi Jinping is trying to face down a rebellion from inside the PLA which could see him removed from office.

    The growing sense in Russia is that the war has been a disastrous failure and that possibly the only reason it continues is that Putin would fall immediately it stops- and that Trump still offers Putin a chance to recoup something from the calamity. However, as Trump faces illness and the growing political pressure on multiple fronts: Minnesota massacre, Epstein and a growing outrage even in the GOP over the Greenland "deal", the high water mark of Trumpism may already have passed. The darkness is gathering around the Kremlin and no one knows what come next- but change, maybe even revolutionary change, may now not be far off.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,884
    edited 4:38PM

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Yes, but this is all just virtue signalling. Lots of likes blah blah blah.

    People voted for Trump because they thought that's the only way they'd get the policies they really wanted. The fact they did so, despite his despicable character, speaks volumes.

    That's what people should be focussing and reflecting upon, because it's the truly material factor here.
    It was quite a close result and therefore many things can be argued to have made a decisive difference. This makes it fertile ground for people to proclaim that what 'did it' was something that plays into their own political brain chemistry.

    So, people who hate Woke say it was the Dems obsession with that. People who can't stand Harris say it was because the Dems chose a dud candidate. Leftists say it was because the Dems were too timid and centrist. Anti-immigrationers say it was because of Trump's tough stance on borders. Etc.

    Fwiw I'd say the inflation and the (gullible but genuine) view of Donald Trump as a financially savvy operator who'd be good with the economy was the biggest single factor. But whatever, they fucked up and it's for them to rectify it, starting with the midterms. 🤞
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 100,848
    edited 4:39PM
    Cicero said:

    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Bold comment, and an odd time to make it you'd think, when Trump is working hard to get some kind of deal Putin can live with (even if it is far below his initial expectations) and so declare it a success.
    The situation inside Russia is finally beginning to change. The Chechen leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, is on his deathbed and with him will pass a significant element of the Power Vertical. The Russian Army has been taking an absolute pasting- an estimated 40,000 dead in the past month alone (for context only 25,000 Soviet troops died in nine years of the Afghan war). Equipment failures and intelligence mistakes on the front line have allowed the Ukrainian armed forces to improve their situation quite dramatically. The Russian economy is being squeezed even further as the shadow fleet is being slowly rounded up and the oil and gas infrastructure is failing under repeated military attacks from Ukrainian missiles and drones. The regime of the Mullahs in Iran is under severe pressure, and Russia has no means to defend it. Even Beijing is now far less reliable as Xi Jinping is trying to face down a rebellion from inside the PLA which could see him removed from office.

    The growing sense in Russia is that the war has been a disastrous failure and that possibly the only reason it continues is that Putin would fall immediately it stops- and that Trump still offers Putin a chance to recoup something from the calamity. However, as Trump faces illness and the growing political pressure on multiple fronts: Minnesota massacre, Epstein and a growing outrage even in the GOP over the Greenland "deal", the high water mark of Trumpism may already have passed. The darkness is gathering around the Kremlin and no one knows what come next- but change, maybe even revolutionary change, may now not be far off.
    Kadyrov is dying? That would presumably cause some issues, I assume his children are still too young to easily step into his shoes a la Baby Doc.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    Iranian gas pipes are the new Russian windows.

    https://x.com/chayasclan/status/2017593446597345289

    Iranian opposition channels have confirmed up to 9 explosions in 6-7 different cities and districts. Unofficial reports claim upwards of 14 separate explosions within the space of 90 minutes.

    Those old gas pipes are a serious health hazard
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,067
    Cicero said:

    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Bold comment, and an odd time to make it you'd think, when Trump is working hard to get some kind of deal Putin can live with (even if it is far below his initial expectations) and so declare it a success.
    The situation inside Russia is finally beginning to change. The Chechen leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, is on his deathbed and with him will pass a significant element of the Power Vertical. The Russian Army has been taking an absolute pasting- an estimated 40,000 dead in the past month alone (for context only 25,000 Soviet troops died in nine years of the Afghan war). Equipment failures and intelligence mistakes on the front line have allowed the Ukrainian armed forces to improve their situation quite dramatically. The Russian economy is being squeezed even further as the shadow fleet is being slowly rounded up and the oil and gas infrastructure is failing under repeated military attacks from Ukrainian missiles and drones. The regime of the Mullahs in Iran is under severe pressure, and Russia has no means to defend it. Even Beijing is now far less reliable as Xi Jinping is trying to face down a rebellion from inside the PLA which could see him removed from office.

    The growing sense in Russia is that the war has been a disastrous failure and that possibly the only reason it continues is that Putin would fall immediately it stops- and that Trump still offers Putin a chance to recoup something from the calamity. However, as Trump faces illness and the growing political pressure on multiple fronts: Minnesota massacre, Epstein and a growing outrage even in the GOP over the Greenland "deal", the high water mark of Trumpism may already have passed. The darkness is gathering around the Kremlin and no one knows what come next- but change, maybe even revolutionary change, may now not be far off.
    Where's your Kadyrov information from?

    I've long been of the view that Ukraine ends when Russia has to deal with a second simultaneous crisis.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868

    a

    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
    Or the opposite. Police the consumption and dealing of drugs to kill demand. No demand, no supply.
    That’s been tried for decades. And failed.

    In the USSR, the KGB failed to stamp out drugs. That is, one of the largest and most unconstrained secret police organisations in human history barely made a dent. With courts that rubber stamped arrests…
    I don't know about the USSR, but zero tolerance policing in the UK is always a success, wherever and whenever it is tried. It is never fashionable (except with the public) and the general approach in the UK has been to do 'big drug busts' like the above, but tolerate low level dealing, and virtually decriminalise drug use. Like the approach of 'smashing the gangs', where there is demand, there will always be supply.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,103
    @sydney-bauer.com‬

    Casey Wasserman being in the Epstein files is another scandal for #LA2028.

    https://bsky.app/profile/sydney-bauer.com/post/3mdqabtdlns2c
  • SonofContrarianSonofContrarian Posts: 279
    Sean_F said:

    Epstein and others were disgusting

    Can someone explain why the abused women have not named those involved and criminal charges laid

    Surely there has to be criminal trials

    I would just say I have little knowledge of US laws

    One or two of those who spoke out are now with the angels.

    Does anyone still believe Epstein topped himself?
    No, I believe that he was murdered.
    The fact that he was obviously an Israeli asset would mean he was never going to survive being compromised...🧐
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,482
    Cicero said:

    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Bold comment, and an odd time to make it you'd think, when Trump is working hard to get some kind of deal Putin can live with (even if it is far below his initial expectations) and so declare it a success.
    The situation inside Russia is finally beginning to change. The Chechen leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, is on his deathbed and with him will pass a significant element of the Power Vertical. The Russian Army has been taking an absolute pasting- an estimated 40,000 dead in the past month alone (for context only 25,000 Soviet troops died in nine years of the Afghan war). Equipment failures and intelligence mistakes on the front line have allowed the Ukrainian armed forces to improve their situation quite dramatically. The Russian economy is being squeezed even further as the shadow fleet is being slowly rounded up and the oil and gas infrastructure is failing under repeated military attacks from Ukrainian missiles and drones. The regime of the Mullahs in Iran is under severe pressure, and Russia has no means to defend it. Even Beijing is now far less reliable as Xi Jinping is trying to face down a rebellion from inside the PLA which could see him removed from office.

    The growing sense in Russia is that the war has been a disastrous failure and that possibly the only reason it continues is that Putin would fall immediately it stops- and that Trump still offers Putin a chance to recoup something from the calamity. However, as Trump faces illness and the growing political pressure on multiple fronts: Minnesota massacre, Epstein and a growing outrage even in the GOP over the Greenland "deal", the high water mark of Trumpism may already have passed. The darkness is gathering around the Kremlin and no one knows what come next- but change, maybe even revolutionary change, may now not be far off.
    So we have a possible civil war in China, we have utter chaos and total incompetence in the US and we have possible coups in Russia, all at the same time?

    Interesting times indeed.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,332
    kinabalu said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Yes, but this is all just virtue signalling. Lots of likes blah blah blah.

    People voted for Trump because they thought that's the only way they'd get the policies they really wanted. The fact they did so, despite his despicable character, speaks volumes.

    That's what people should be focussing and reflecting upon, because it's the truly material factor here.
    It was quite a close result and therefore many things can be argued to have made a decisive difference. This makes it fertile ground for people to proclaim that what 'did it' was something that plays into their own political brain chemistry.

    So, people who hate Woke say it was the Dems obsession with that. People who can't stand Harris say it was because the Dems chose a dud candidate. Leftists say it was because the Dems were too timid and centrist. Anti-immigrationers say it was because of Trump's tough stance on borders. Etc.

    Fwiw I'd say the inflation and the (gullible but genuine) view of Donald Trump as a financially savvy operator who'd be good with the economy was the biggest single factor. But whatever, they fucked up and it's for them to rectify it, starting with the midterms. 🤞
    Harris was an objectively less than stellar candidate launched from a terrible position.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,103
    @peterjukes

    Wow - yes, here it is. It looks like Putin was the one who reached out to Epstein, at least according to what he told Ehud Barak.

    Given Barak’s intelligence background, it’s unlikely he’d lie to him

    Wonder who was the Russian conduit to Epstein - there is one plausible one

    https://x.com/peterjukes/status/2017574646313340961?s=20
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    Okay something is seriously kicking off in Iran. But it’s good that a comedian has some of the best takes on the situation.

    https://x.com/omid9/status/2017631358030381188

    Absolutely nothing confirmed and currently zero on the mainstream TV channels. But news of multiple bombings targeting IRGC strongholds is flooding in on the Telegram channels. At the risk of sounding like Gillette soccer Saturday, these are the cities:

    Bandar Abbas
    Ahvaz
    Khorramshahr
    Abadan
    Qasr-e Shirin
    Parand
    Qeshm
    Dezful
    Reports of explosions in places like Qeshm and at the Qom Governor's Office building.

    Just to cover my tracks currently waiting for Chris Kamara to verify.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,182
    "Power with responsibility
    Britain has built a governing system in which officials exercise immense power yet face no consequences. Could that be about to change?

    David Shipley
    31 January, 2026"

    https://thecritic.co.uk/power-with-responsibility/
  • PhilPhil Posts: 3,155
    Is this the most PB centrist Dad birthday book pile possible? Answers on a postcard...


  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,103
    @TheTNHoller

    Vance’s benefactor Peter Thiel, Epstein, and Russia’s ambassador Vitaly Churkin having an “important lunch” 1 month before the 2016 election — right before the Podesta emails were released by Wikileaks

    Probably nothing! 🙃🥶

    https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/2017634541997818040?s=20
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,067
    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868
    Andy_JS said:

    "Power with responsibility
    Britain has built a governing system in which officials exercise immense power yet face no consequences. Could that be about to change?

    David Shipley
    31 January, 2026"

    https://thecritic.co.uk/power-with-responsibility/

    Extraordinary:

    Instead, our state is quietly bringing Islamic State “wives and children” to this country. In due course this will allow their husbands to apply to enter on the grounds of protecting their ECHR Article 8 (family life) rights. Unbelievably, there is precedent here. In 2021 the Special Immigration Appeals Commission found that an Iraqi with links to Iranian intelligence services should be allowed to enter the UK in order to challenge the removal of his citizenship because his wife and children acted as a “jurisdictional peg”.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 3,155
    So, are the claims of explosions etc in Iran credible? Or is it just hope-posting by those who wish an end to the regime?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 100,848
    Phil said:

    Is this the most PB centrist Dad birthday book pile possible? Answers on a postcard...


    I only own one of them, so probably not.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,203

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    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
    Or the opposite. Police the consumption and dealing of drugs to kill demand. No demand, no supply.
    That’s been tried for decades. And failed.

    In the USSR, the KGB failed to stamp out drugs. That is, one of the largest and most unconstrained secret police organisations in human history barely made a dent. With courts that rubber stamped arrests…
    I don't know about the USSR, but zero tolerance policing in the UK is always a success, wherever and whenever it is tried. It is never fashionable (except with the public) and the general approach in the UK has been to do 'big drug busts' like the above, but tolerate low level dealing, and virtually decriminalise drug use. Like the approach of 'smashing the gangs', where there is demand, there will always be supply.

    “…zero tolerance policing is always a success…”???? The absolute state of what you reactionaries come out with.

    Let’s demolish yet another piece of LuckyGuy bullshit shall we?

    An example..Ray Mallon's "zero tolerance" approach in Hartlepool during the 1990s was initially celebrated, with crime reportedly falling 35% and leading to comparisons with New York's William Bratton, the initiative collapsed when Mallon was suspended in December 1997 as one of sixty-one officers amid allegations of misconduct during Operation Lancet. Claims against officers included tipping off suspects and exchanging drugs for confessions, with hisnkwn chief constable describing Mallon as "a liar at the centre of an empire of evil"

    If that’s not enough for you, check this out -

    https://www.college.police.uk/research/crime-reduction-toolkit/zero-tolerance-policing

    In general, the evidence suggests that zero-tolerance policing has not had a statistically significant effect on crime. Most studies found no significant impact on crime rates, with a few showing mixed results.”

    But, hey, don’t let “evidence” get in the way of your jackboot dreams.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,591
    Thank you TSE for posting up this competition reminder again.

    I apologise that I have not been around much these past couple of weeks to give updates or reminders (house-build taking priority). I have been trawling through periodically to collect entries but plan to do a full sweep next week.

    Just to clarify, if your entry doesn't have the #competition tag on it, it is not invalid but I don't guarantee to find it - it's your risk.

    Once again:
    To enter you simply need to post your answers to the 12 questions in the header onto the site, or PM them to me, before the end of TODAY with the hashtag #competition somewhere in the post to help me find your entry.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,440
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The backlash against what? A recovering economy and the US remaining respected in the world? Meanwhile, with Trump a busted flush, the Republicans would have collapsed into infighting.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,103
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,692
    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    HYUFD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
    I think a proper Democratic primary season may well have found a good candidate. I still think this to be the case next time around in ‘28.

    Their problem has always been the party Establishment stitchup.

    Republican primary next time out is no more than a three-way with Vance, Rubio, and DeSantis.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,182
    edited 5:06PM
    "@EuropeElects

    UK (GB), BMG poll:

    REFORM 32% (+2)
    LAB 20% (-2)
    CON 17% (-3)
    GREENS 13% (+1)
    LDEM 11% (-1)
    SNP 3% (+1)

    +/- vs. 26-27 November 2025

    Fieldwork: 28-29 January 2026
    Sample size: 1,513"

    https://x.com/EuropeElects/status/2017586301491425786
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,191
    Scott_xP said:
    It comes with a warning
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514
    edited 5:10PM

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    Indeed, Harris was the candidate of the liberal elites and the woke rich.

    As shown by the fact she was the first Democratic presidential nominee ever to win most voters earning over $100,000.

    However she had zero connection with ordinary people, losing voters earning $30,000- $99,999 badly to Trump.

    Indeed Harris won 52% of voters earning over $200,000 but even the poorest voters earning under $30,000 only voted 50% Harris.

    On reflection even Bernie Sanders would have run Trump closer in the rustbelt swing states than Harris did, they also probably had the ticket the wrong way round. Minnesota Governor ex coach Walz would have been better at the top of the ticket and Harris stayed as the experienced VP pick



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 100,848

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    Timing was presumably the issue there. They did too good a job covering for Biden, and when it could not be denied any longer and she confirmed she wanted the nomination, understandably, it wasn't a surprise that they didn't think there was time to have even a brief contest and then reunify efforts.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,555
    Sandpit said:

    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian opposition MP detained for a speeech in which he critisised Putin’s failure in Ukraine.

    https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2017480226331041946

    Bold comment, and an odd time to make it you'd think, when Trump is working hard to get some kind of deal Putin can live with (even if it is far below his initial expectations) and so declare it a success.
    Putin allegedly told Trump he would back off bombing Ukranian infrastructure for a few days, yet today the whole power grid in Kyiv was down for nearly six hours amid widespread failures from Russian bombings.
    If you can't trust a former KGB agent, who can you trust?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,671
    Andy_JS said:

    "@EuropeElects

    UK (GB), BMG poll:

    REFORM 32% (+2)
    LAB 20% (-2)
    CON 17% (-3)
    GREENS 13% (+1)
    LDEM 11% (-1)
    SNP 3% (+1)

    +/- vs. 26-27 November 2025

    Fieldwork: 28-29 January 2026
    Sample size: 1,513"

    https://x.com/EuropeElects/status/2017586301491425786

    We seemed to be getting mixed messages. Some polls have Reform down and their lead not that large over Labour. Others have Reform up and still very significant lead over the 2nd party.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,440
    HYUFD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
    I don’t understand the logic of your first sentence. With a different opponent, the voting would’ve been different.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001

    Andy_JS said:

    "@EuropeElects

    UK (GB), BMG poll:

    REFORM 32% (+2)
    LAB 20% (-2)
    CON 17% (-3)
    GREENS 13% (+1)
    LDEM 11% (-1)
    SNP 3% (+1)

    +/- vs. 26-27 November 2025

    Fieldwork: 28-29 January 2026
    Sample size: 1,513"

    https://x.com/EuropeElects/status/2017586301491425786

    We seemed to be getting mixed messages. Some polls have Reform down and their lead not that large over Labour. Others have Reform up and still very significant lead over the 2nd party.
    In my best OGH voice, don't get overexcited by MOE noise in the polls.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    edited 5:16PM
    Okay, here goes:

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 0
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 0
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 44
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.3%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,482

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    That wasn't her fault, that was Biden's. I personally think she was a reasonably good candidate, not Bill Clinton or Obama level, but way better than Hilary. She was sunk because Biden held on for far too long. If she had had a year to 18 months as President before the election she would have won in my view. But she was left spending most of the campaign trying to get people to know her and trying to explain why she had played a part in someone so obviously senile being President. It was like starting 3 goals down, even against a monster like Trump.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,440
    HYUFD said:

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    Indeed, Harris was the candidate of the liberal elites and the woke rich.

    As shown by the fact she was the first Democratic presidential nominee ever to win most voters earning over $100,000.

    However she had zero connection with ordinary people, losing voters earning $30,000- $99,999 badly to Trump.

    Indeed Harris won 52% of voters earning over $200,000 but even the poorest voters earning under $30,000 only voted 50% Harris.

    On reflection even Bernie Sanders would have run Trump closer in the rustbelt swing states than Harris did, they also probably had the ticket the wrong way round. Minnesota Governor ex coach Walz would have been better at the top of the ticket and Harris stayed as the experienced VP pick



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
    You’re making a big thing out of small differences
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,884
    edited 5:18PM

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    On Biden and his inner circle. By the time they were forced to see sense it was too late for anything except go with Harris. Who fought hard and well from a handicapped position IMO but did not have sufficient charisma or separation from the incumbent to beat Trump.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,997
    Andy_JS said:

    "Power with responsibility
    Britain has built a governing system in which officials exercise immense power yet face no consequences. Could that be about to change?

    David Shipley
    31 January, 2026"

    https://thecritic.co.uk/power-with-responsibility/

    At the top level, a good idea to increase accountability in public officials, but the specific proposal depressingly narrow and one-sided in scope. One of the thoughts I had for a Labour government with little cash to spare to increase the numerical generosity of the welfare state was a chartered status for those public officials who were front facing to the general public - a lot of my thinking was around fairness in benefits and disability determinations, a fairness in the individuals interaction with the state, a thinking that clearly had a left leaning hat on, but recklessness with public funds and public safety could certainly be a part of the remit - though I feel Reform's exact proposal could be used for a specific kind of Trumpist targeting of officials.

    Chartered systems and the bodies that run them are not, by any means, perfect - both the BMA and the SRA have got things wrong, but they are better than nothing and I feel could be applied to governance.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514

    HYUFD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
    I don’t understand the logic of your first sentence. With a different opponent, the voting would’ve been different.
    I doubt it, the cost of living was high, the Biden administration was unpopular and no Democrat could change that
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001
    Anyhoo, it's that time of the season where I put bets on Liverpool to beat Newcastle 4-3 tonight, and the opposite result at silly odds.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,936
    rcs1000 said:

    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG

    Russian paper concerned about "Off-switch for the Internet"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBP2ylzp1l8

    BBC's Steve Rosenberg from Thursday.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514
    edited 5:23PM

    HYUFD said:

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    Indeed, Harris was the candidate of the liberal elites and the woke rich.

    As shown by the fact she was the first Democratic presidential nominee ever to win most voters earning over $100,000.

    However she had zero connection with ordinary people, losing voters earning $30,000- $99,999 badly to Trump.

    Indeed Harris won 52% of voters earning over $200,000 but even the poorest voters earning under $30,000 only voted 50% Harris.

    On reflection even Bernie Sanders would have run Trump closer in the rustbelt swing states than Harris did, they also probably had the ticket the wrong way round. Minnesota Governor ex coach Walz would have been better at the top of the ticket and Harris stayed as the experienced VP pick



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
    You’re making a big thing out of small differences
    I am not.

    Compare Harris v Trump to say Bill Clinton v Dole in 1996, the Harris vote looks much like the Dole vote ie wealthy and graduate rich while the Trump vote was much like the Clinton vote, average middle class and blue collar voters.

    The GOP under Trump are the party of most of the white working class and lower middle class who often used to vote Democrat and the Democrats are the party of rich suburban elites many of whom used to be Republican even more than they are the party of the welfare dependent poorest voters. Trump also did well with Hispanic and African American men on average incomes relative to most Republicans
    https://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/elections/natl.exit.poll/index1.html

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,482
    Sandpit said:

    Okay, here goes:

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 0
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 0
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 44
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.3%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.

    Hope your right about 3!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,527
    kinabalu said:

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    On Biden and his inner circle. By the time they were forced to see sense it was too late for anything except go with Harris. Who fought hard and well from a handicapped position IMO but did not have the charisma or the separation from the incumbent required to win
    Plus she was a black woman in racist misogynistic America.

    Given they elected Obama, misogyny probably the bigger driver.

    Plus Trump made hay with inflation. Which of course, he was going to cure overnight. Hmmm.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,991

    Andy_JS said:

    "@EuropeElects

    UK (GB), BMG poll:

    REFORM 32% (+2)
    LAB 20% (-2)
    CON 17% (-3)
    GREENS 13% (+1)
    LDEM 11% (-1)
    SNP 3% (+1)

    +/- vs. 26-27 November 2025

    Fieldwork: 28-29 January 2026
    Sample size: 1,513"

    https://x.com/EuropeElects/status/2017586301491425786

    We seemed to be getting mixed messages. Some polls have Reform down and their lead not that large over Labour. Others have Reform up and still very significant lead over the 2nd party.
    Not sure it is of anything other than academic (and betting) interest. We are still over 3 years out from an election, there is real uncertainty about who will be leading the main parties at the time of the next election and in a few months we will get some real data in the locals.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868
    edited 5:21PM
    DougSeal said:

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    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pro tip: Don't read about Bill Gates and his knobrot whilst you're eating bran flakes.

    As for that photo of Andrew Mountbatten-WIndsor on all fours, can anyone tell me why he is was Queen Elizabeth II's favourite sprog?

    Billy Boy claims its all fake news.....
    His wife still divorced him soon afterwards, so she clearly wasn’t buying the denial.

    Gates is someone who’d worked very hard to try and get himself a reputation as a good man, while his terrible behaviour both in business and personal lives has been kept quiet.
    None of us are totally good, none of us (I hope and trust) are utterly irredeemably bad.
    Indeed. I always try and see the good in people, and once you get past the Putins and Khamenis of this world I try not to think of anyone as evil. We all have good and bad ideas, and all do good and bad things.

    I do however reserve extreme scepticism for those who try and present themselves as philanthropists, while turning up regularly on as island full of underage sex workers. There’s a lot of other pretty horrible rumours about Bill Gates out there, which I’m not going to repeat because I don’t want to get this site in trouble. I remember when we all used to think that Microsoft was the worst thing he’d ever done.
    "Underage sex workers"

    Jesus: enough with the euphemisms!

    If underage they were not workers and they were not having sex, whether for work or pleasure. They were children being raped and assaulted by men. And who were coerced and/or groomed by one woman, at least. She is in prison. But the men who did this are rapists and should also be in prison.

    You do not "have sex with" a child. Children cannot consent, legally or in any other sense. Decent men know this. These men were not and are not decent.

    Excusing them because of some good things they have done is just the secular world's version of buying indulgences.
    I finished a trial yesterday where a Romanian claimed to have consensual sex with a 14 year girl he had offered a lift home to when she was drunk. He was unanimously convicted of rape and rightly so. People who think like this are simply beyond my comprehension. They are monsters, dangerous monsters. I try not to get emotionally invested in my cases but this was one which turned my stomach. I frankly don't give a damn whether he has done some good or not.
    Hopefully you get to wind down with a tax evasion case or something next after that.
    Some drugs in fact. Starts a week tomorrow.

    Its hard to feel the same about that. This trial involves the seizure of £450k of cocaine. Which is roughly £3 for every man, woman and child in Dundee (where the drugs were found). Would this have changed the street price? No chance. Would it have caused some local shortages? Briefly, if at all. We have what economists call a superabundance of supply and our seizures, however large, barely scratch the surface.

    Don't get me wrong, these people deserve to be punished. Their supply will have helped destroy lives. The desperation of those whose lives are being destroyed will cause further damage in terms of shoplifting, burglary and robbery as they try to fund their addiction. But, as I have said before, if we are fighting a war on drugs its time we admitted we lost and try something else.
    Legalise the whole supply chain. Grow and process it in the UK. Tax and regulate it.
    Or the opposite. Police the consumption and dealing of drugs to kill demand. No demand, no supply.
    That’s been tried for decades. And failed.

    In the USSR, the KGB failed to stamp out drugs. That is, one of the largest and most unconstrained secret police organisations in human history barely made a dent. With courts that rubber stamped arrests…
    I don't know about the USSR, but zero tolerance policing in the UK is always a success, wherever and whenever it is tried. It is never fashionable (except with the public) and the general approach in the UK has been to do 'big drug busts' like the above, but tolerate low level dealing, and virtually decriminalise drug use. Like the approach of 'smashing the gangs', where there is demand, there will always be supply.

    “…zero tolerance policing is always a success…”???? The absolute state of what you reactionaries come out with.

    Let’s demolish yet another piece of LuckyGuy bullshit shall we?

    An example..Ray Mallon's "zero tolerance" approach in Hartlepool during the 1990s was initially celebrated, with crime reportedly falling 35% and leading to comparisons with New York's William Bratton, the initiative collapsed when Mallon was suspended in December 1997 as one of sixty-one officers amid allegations of misconduct during Operation Lancet. Claims against officers included tipping off suspects and exchanging drugs for confessions, with hisnkwn chief constable describing Mallon as "a liar at the centre of an empire of evil"

    If that’s not enough for you, check this out -

    https://www.college.police.uk/research/crime-reduction-toolkit/zero-tolerance-policing

    In general, the evidence suggests that zero-tolerance policing has not had a statistically significant effect on crime. Most studies found no significant impact on crime rates, with a few showing mixed results.”

    But, hey, don’t let “evidence” get in the way of your jackboot dreams.
    Not really sure where to start with this.

    You acknowledge that the zero-tolerance policing initiative brought crime down by 35%.
    You then speak of Mallon's suspension as if this is some sort of counterargument - it isn't, and it's bizarre that you think it is.
    After his police career Mallon went on to be elected as Mayor of Middlesborough with 60% of the vote - making my point for me.

    And as if your 'demolition' (sadly of your own argument) isn't enough, you then unironically cite an article (I cannot give it the title of analysis) by the College of Policing - an organisation that wants to 'decolonise' the training of police officers and urges forces to become 'Stonewall Champions': https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10771683/Whats-Britains-police-forces-urged-decolonise-training-material.html, and introduced the concept of 'Non Crime Hate Incidents' - what verdict on zero-tolerance policing would you expect them to deliver?
  • eekeek Posts: 32,432
    #competition - as I forgot to add that tag earlier
    eek said:

    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House?
    18
    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate?
    3
    Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election?
    57
    Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election?
    42
    UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage (British Polling Council registered pollsters only)?
    Reform 13%
    Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC?
    18%
    Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026?
    10
    The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026?
    Starmer
    Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026?
    No
    UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025)?
    £127.4bn
    UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025)?
    1.6%
    Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup?
    Brazil

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636

    It would appear that Labour's candidate in Gorton came from Greece with a thirst for knowledge and now hangs around with common people.

    Someone please say that at the hustings!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,884

    kinabalu said:

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    On Biden and his inner circle. By the time they were forced to see sense it was too late for anything except go with Harris. Who fought hard and well from a handicapped position IMO but did not have the charisma or the separation from the incumbent required to win
    Plus she was a black woman in racist misogynistic America.

    Given they elected Obama, misogyny probably the bigger driver.

    Plus Trump made hay with inflation. Which of course, he was going to cure overnight. Hmmm.
    The 'woman' angle was in the mix, it's naive to think otherwise, but I think your last point was the biggest factor. Cost of living.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,527
    Phil said:

    So, are the claims of explosions etc in Iran credible? Or is it just hope-posting by those who wish an end to the regime?

    There's just been a drop of 3 million pages of Epstein material.

    It's credible.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,527

    rcs1000 said:

    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG

    Russian paper concerned about "Off-switch for the Internet"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBP2ylzp1l8

    BBC's Steve Rosenberg from Thursday.
    Putin's goons don't actually switch the internet off. They just run it speeds so slow that you can't use it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,671

    rcs1000 said:

    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG

    Russian paper concerned about "Off-switch for the Internet"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBP2ylzp1l8

    BBC's Steve Rosenberg from Thursday.
    Putin's goons don't actually switch the internet off. They just run it speeds so slow that you can't use it.
    Like being on a BA flight....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,920
    May as well add my WAG.

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 23
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 3
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 54
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 40
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 18%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 11
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £140bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.5%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,868

    rcs1000 said:

    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG

    Russian paper concerned about "Off-switch for the Internet"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBP2ylzp1l8

    BBC's Steve Rosenberg from Thursday.
    Putin's goons don't actually switch the internet off. They just run it speeds so slow that you can't use it.
    Like being on a BA flight....
    Or in Wales.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,884
    Sandpit said:

    Okay, here goes:

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 0
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 0
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 44
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.3%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.

    You think the midterms are off?
  • eekeek Posts: 32,432

    Sajid Javid
    @sajidjavid
    The original online headline on my Sunday Times interview last week was incorrect and attributed words to me that I did not say.
    The paper has now corrected this and added the clarification below. I’m grateful that the record has been set straight.

    https://x.com/sajidjavid/status/2017531846041522568?s=20

    Mr Javid now wishes it to be known that he doesn't know whether he would let people like his parents into the country today.

    I was actually quite impressed by that piece. His background was much tougher than I thought it'd been. And, unlike many others, he really didn't ever make that much of his personal backstory while in government.
    As the grandson of humble immigrants to this country I find it a bit weird when people try and use their personal backstory to make it sound they had a rough time growing up.

    The privately educated son of a doctor just doesn't elicit much sympathy.
    Yeh, but were you allowed to but the shoes you wanted as a child?
    Given the shoes he buys now - clearly not
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,441
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
    I don’t understand the logic of your first sentence. With a different opponent, the voting would’ve been different.
    I doubt it, the cost of living was high, the Biden administration was unpopular and no Democrat could change that
    Besides, compared with other incumbent governments worldwide in 2024 Harris did pretty well.

    The more alarming question is why the Republican ecosystem couldn't stop Trump running again.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,067
    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,920
    FBI agents now masking up to make arrests.
    (In this case a Ranger veteran.)
    https://x.com/WUTangKids/status/2017448577589493892
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,996
    New York comedian on the ICE killings. I've seen him before. He's good. Here he meets a heckler

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbdR-TctpEw
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,997
    rcs1000 said:

    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!

    I'd love to see your workings for Q8!
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,493

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 15
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 51
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 28
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 14
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £170bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Argentina
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001
    Pro_Rata said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!

    I'd love to see your workings for Q8!
    My entry which I will post on Monday has the PM as Mark Carney.

    Basically my working is Trump continues to be a dickhead and the Anglo-Canadian Union is formed, Robert might be using the same logic and we have the Anglo-French Union.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ...

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sandpit said:

    Musk was invited loads but never went

    Trump kicked Epstein out of his club two decades ago, when he worked out what he was up to.

    I don't think either of those statements is true
    Go on then, evidence for Musk ever going to the island, or for Trump having any relationship with Epstein after I think 2007?
    Whether or not he cut ties with Epstein after 2007 does not exonerate all the other allegations against Trump before that date. I am not saying they are true because we don’t know but the absolute lack of transparency in respect of the release of the files and the redactions is not exactly a great look. The allegations are horrifying.
    I stand by my previous comments that if there was any serious evidence of impropriety involving Trump, something serious enough to be disqualifying, it would have found its way to the papers before the election.

    Biden’s DOJ was willing to throw anything and everything at putting him in prison, they wouldn’t have overlooked anything they thought they could stand up in court.
    Trump incited a riot on 6/1/2021. He repeatedly lied that he lost the election, due to fraud. A jury found Trump civilly liable for sexual assault. He describes Haitians and Venezuelans as garbage, and lies about them eating pets. His business record is one of fraud, and non-payment of bills. He lusts after his own daughter. His posts on Truth Social are like the outpourings of the demon Pazuzu, in The Exorcist.

    All this is in the public domain, and still 77 m voted for this deranged, babbling, fuckwit.

    Which tells you just how bad the alternative was.
    Harris is mediocre in the extreme, but she is not actively malevolent, corrupt, senile, or unhinged. She is not someone who is an active threat to US allies.

    Sometimes, the voters make bad choices. In this case, they willingly chose a man whose character is atrocious.
    I would not have voted for Harris. Wokery (which bleeds over here) would have been given a further boost over here, and the dogma on Net Zero would have continued.

    I'd have gone third party. The problem with American politics is how utterly polarised it is.
    I (and I used to be an American citizen) would have voted for Harris. She is a B- politician on the national level, true.

    But she isn’t a lying, racist, rapist, insurrectionist fraudster.

    8 years of Harris might not be optimal. But she wouldn’t be destroying large chunks of the social contract.
    I believe the key difference is that you could safely vote for Harris in the knowledge that you would be free to oppose those policies of hers that you disagreed with, and that Congressional Democrats would not be so cowed as to be incapable of responding to public pressure to block those policies.

    You cannot say the same about Trump and Congressional Republicans.
    Indeed.

    I am trying to think of a Democrat ticket that I wouldn’t have instantly voted for over Trump/Vance.

    AOC/Bernie - no hesitation
    .

    Can anyone come up with a ticket that wouldn’t obviously have been better than Trump?
    So you would consider World ending fascism is preferable to Blairite Socialism.
    I think he's saying he would voted for AOC/Bernie without hesitation.
    Trump is wrathful, vengeful, grandiose, capricious, impressively venal, and as a world statesman, toe-curlingly embarrassing. He is also, in my opinion, 100% better than having a Democrat President - for America and the for rest of the world.
    Personally I wouldn’t go quite that far, and would probably have been 3rd party in the US last time out, but I would say that if Harris had won in 2024 the backlash next time would be a lot worse than Trump is now.
    The 2025 mob couldn’t get elected. Which is why they needed Trump.

    Vaguely Sane Democrat vs Vance, Miller etc = big Democrat Win
    Instead they came up with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
    Though Trump would have probably beaten any Democrat in 2024 when he even won the popular vote.

    By 2028 though on current polling any Democrat could probably beat Vance
    I don’t understand the logic of your first sentence. With a different opponent, the voting would’ve been different.
    I doubt it, the cost of living was high, the Biden administration was unpopular and no Democrat could change that
    Besides, compared with other incumbent governments worldwide in 2024 Harris did pretty well.

    The more alarming question is why the Republican ecosystem couldn't stop Trump running again.
    As most Republican primary voters wanted him to run again
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    kinabalu said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, here goes:

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 0
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 0
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 44
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.3%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.

    You think the midterms are off?
    I think the House could be a handful of seats either way, more likely to the Dems but everyone’s saying that already.

    Unlikely that much changes in the Senate, plus or minus one.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,391
    Foxy said:

    Derek Guy nails it once again:

    "every epstein file drop underscores how elite power operates through shared socio-economic networks, regardless of people's ideological differences, populist posturing, or public feuds"

    https://bsky.app/profile/dieworkwear.bsky.social/post/3mdoj24kqqs2r

    I misread that as Deryck Guyler. Corky on the washboard.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514

    Pro_Rata said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!

    I'd love to see your workings for Q8!
    My entry which I will post on Monday has the PM as Mark Carney.

    Basically my working is Trump continues to be a dickhead and the Anglo-Canadian Union is formed, Robert might be using the same logic and we have the Anglo-French Union.
    I am sure Farage and indeed Le Pen and Bardella would love Macron becoming UK PM
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,205
    The French ministry of foreign affairs is trying a new approach to social media rebuttal, but I think they’ve misjudged this one:

    https://x.com/frenchresponse/status/2017603330478948745
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,884
    Sandpit said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, here goes:

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 0
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 0
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 44
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 14%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 16%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Sir Keir Starmer
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.3%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain.

    You think the midterms are off?
    I think the House could be a handful of seats either way, more likely to the Dems but everyone’s saying that already.

    Unlikely that much changes in the Senate, plus or minus one.
    Yes, just kidding. Could be.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,350
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @milesklee.bsky.social‬

    Musk has been spamming crap about SpaceX and Grok all day but now every single reply to any of his posts is someone calling him a pedophile. the stage has been set for something historic

    Is this really how some people choose to spend their free time?
    It takes a few seconds, hardly much of their time, so I've always found that to be a rather silly complaint to frivilous or petty trolling. Is it still silly to do it? Sure, but as a complaint about their 'free time' it falls apart because of how little time it takes.

    Musk, on the other hand, spends an inordinate amount of time online being an edgelord, even if we assume he is doing a lot of it inbetween important businessman stuff and billionaire pursuits.
    How much time do you think is spent tapping out the response versus how much time they monitor it during their waking hours and it dominating their thoughts?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,514
    '@AndyBurnhamGM
    Big congrats Angeliki! I know you will do a great job. I will be there for you whenever you need me.🤞🏻💪🏻'
    https://x.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/2017659405542597051?s=20
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001

    The French ministry of foreign affairs is trying a new approach to social media rebuttal, but I think they’ve misjudged this one:

    https://x.com/frenchresponse/status/2017603330478948745

    They've been smashing it out of the park recently.

    https://x.com/FrenchResponse/status/2010429570076594647
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,636
    This could be fun.

    https://x.com/grummz/status/2017622804095713331

    A falling out between NVidia and OpenAI, who have ordered a substantial amount of the world’s supply of chips this year, and might not have the cash to pay for them…
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001
    Last I night I gave a speech to the National Haemorrhoids Society, they gave me standing ovation all the way through my speech.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,321

    rcs1000 said:

    Interesting story:

    Russians feel strain of Putin's war with mobile internet shutdowns
    https://share.google/YxYQWjO0cOSr522YG

    Russian paper concerned about "Off-switch for the Internet"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBP2ylzp1l8

    BBC's Steve Rosenberg from Thursday.
    Putin's goons don't actually switch the internet off. They just run it speeds so slow that you can't use it.
    Like being on a BA flight....
    Or an LNER train.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,321
    HYUFD said:

    '@AndyBurnhamGM
    Big congrats Angeliki! I know you will do a great job. I will be there for you whenever you need me.🤞🏻💪🏻'
    https://x.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/2017659405542597051?s=20

    As chat up lines go, I'd give that 4 out of 10.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,384

    Last I night I gave a speech to the National Haemorrhoids Society, they gave me standing ovation all the way through my speech.

    Unlike Bill Gates, to whom they gave the clap.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,920

    Pro_Rata said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!

    I'd love to see your workings for Q8!
    My entry which I will post on Monday has the PM as Mark Carney.

    Basically my working is Trump continues to be a dickhead and the Anglo-Canadian Union is formed, Robert might be using the same logic and we have the Anglo-French Union.
    By the year end ?

    It's an interesting question. I recognise there's a very large component of normalcy bias in my (and most other) guesses, and I'm troubled by the.

    OTOH, while I confidently expect to be WAY out on some predictions, it's far harder to say which way, by the year end.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,391

    One Harris error I haven't seen mentioned: The Democratic Party did not provide for voters to have a say in her choice, through primaries and caucuses.

    It was her turn. She was entitled. They needed to shut up and suck it up.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,001
    Nigelb said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Ok...

    #competition @Benpointer

    1. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 19
    2. Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 2
    3. Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 46
    4. Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 22
    5. UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform, 17%
    6. Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 17%
    7. Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 12
    8. The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Emmanuel Macron
    9. Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10. UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £165bn
    11. UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.7%
    12. Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. England!

    I'd love to see your workings for Q8!
    My entry which I will post on Monday has the PM as Mark Carney.

    Basically my working is Trump continues to be a dickhead and the Anglo-Canadian Union is formed, Robert might be using the same logic and we have the Anglo-French Union.
    By the year end ?

    It's an interesting question. I recognise there's a very large component of normalcy bias in my (and most other) guesses, and I'm troubled by the.

    OTOH, while I confidently expect to be WAY out on some predictions, it's far harder to say which way, by the year end.
    Yes, my view was Trump in a fit of pique ends up not supporting Ukraine/backing Russia (I mean how could we tell?) and before we know the Russia bear expands its tentacles much further across Europe, and Trump buggering NATO, we might end up like the Franco-British Union Churchill proposed in 1940.
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