Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
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Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
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Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
I am assuming that final paragraph contained an ironic comedic suggestion.
Evening all. At least Pa Woolie didn't pick today to get us all breaking up and moving concrete and start constructing his summerhouse. Oh wait....... Im dripping 🤪
Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
Windrush Suffragette Weaver…
Vomit
Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
I suggest
Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
I am assuming that final paragraph contained an ironic comedic suggestion.
Not at all.
Without Bob Clive much of the population along that line might now be living in the banlieues of Paris.
We don't recognise the importance of the Seven Years War and we should.
Whereas the Napoleonic and Hundred Years wars are over emphasised.
Evening all. At least Pa Woolie didn't pick today to get us all breaking up and moving concrete and start constructing his summerhouse. Oh wait....... Im dripping 🤪
Tbf I didn't do much except move things, but that's enough lol
Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
Windrush Suffragette Weaver…
Vomit
Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
I suggest
Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
I am assuming that final paragraph contained an ironic comedic suggestion.
Not at all.
Without Bob Clive much of the population along that line might now be living in the banlieues of Paris.
We don't recognise the importance of the Seven Years War and we should.
Whereas the Napoleonic and Hundred Years wars are over emphasised.
Just so you know, if you had called him "Bob" it would not have gone down so well.
Fifth columnists. They hate this country and our values.
People laughed when I suggested that these pro-palestine "protests" were just a front for supporting terrorism, it's time to shut them down and start arresting people who want nothing more than the destruction of our nation.
Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
Windrush Suffragette Weaver…
Vomit
Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
I suggest
Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
I am assuming that final paragraph contained an ironic comedic suggestion.
Not at all.
Without Bob Clive much of the population along that line might now be living in the banlieues of Paris.
We don't recognise the importance of the Seven Years War and we should.
Whereas the Napoleonic and Hundred Years wars are over emphasised.
Just so you know, if you had called him "Bob" it would not have gone down so well.
I expect you know about how the Bobs of the world like to be called.
I'm not too far from the Liberty Line which runs from Upminster to Romford via Emerson Park.
The rationale as follows:
The Liberty line celebrates the freedom that is a defining feature of London and references the 'historical independence' of the people of Havering, through which it runs.
Talking of dystopia.. try driving down the A217 from the top of Reigate hill into Wimbledon. Av Speed cameras.. then fixed cameras with the speed limit varying between 20 and 50.. let's not forget the Ulez cameras and the red light cameras. It's almost impossible to drive and not get nicked. I shall never drive down that road again. It would be interesting to know how much money the councils make out of this legal thievery.
You could just drive at or below the speed limit. It’s not hard.
Come and gdo it Gallowgate..it's not easy with so many changes
As many as a dozen members of government are prepared to resign rather than support Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial welfare reforms
A senior government figure told The Times that about 12 of their colleagues had privately indicated they would find it impossible to support the measures that are due to be voted on a week on Wednesday
Another leading opponent said that as many as 80 Labour MPs were “holding firm” in opposition to the plans and believed the government would ultimately have to pull the vote
‘If this goes through this will be our version of tuition fees,’they said. ‘The optics of taking away money from people who find it difficult to go to the toilet are terrible’
@Steven_Swinford As the US moves B2 stealth bomber to Diego Garcia, here’s our weekend read on the difficult choices ahead for Starmer:
* Lord Hermer, the AG, has advised that allowing US to use Diego Garcia as base for bombing campaign would be a potential breach of international law
* He has raised concerns that it would go beyond definition for self defence under Article 51 of UN Charter, specifically whether attack by Iran can be considered ‘imminent’
* The US has taken a broad definition of imminence in the past. Hermer does not appear to share that view
* But it is technically just advice. It is not absolute, it highlights legal risks. Starmer can go ahead and give US green light. But question is whether the human rights lawyer is willing to do so if US pushes ahead
* UK now acting as interlocutor between US and Iran. Lammy delivered US message in Geneva yesterday - essentially surrender. Giving up Uranian enrichment, handing over civilian nuclear programme to a third party. It’s a high bar. The aim is to get Iran and US talking
* Concerns that 2 week window is a decision deferred rather than a change of heart - govt was convinced time for talking was over last week before Trump’s sudden change of heart
I'm not too far from the Liberty Line which runs from Upminster to Romford via Emerson Park.
The rationale as follows:
The Liberty line celebrates the freedom that is a defining feature of London and references the 'historical independence' of the people of Havering, through which it runs.
Calling it the Havering line would have made it easier to locate.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
@Steven_Swinford As the US moves B2 stealth bomber to Diego Garcia, here’s our weekend read on the difficult choices ahead for Starmer:
* Lord Hermer, the AG, has advised that allowing US to use Diego Garcia as base for bombing campaign would be a potential breach of international law
* He has raised concerns that it would go beyond definition for self defence under Article 51 of UN Charter, specifically whether attack by Iran can be considered ‘imminent’
* The US has taken a broad definition of imminence in the past. Hermer does not appear to share that view
* But it is technically just advice. It is not absolute, it highlights legal risks. Starmer can go ahead and give US green light. But question is whether the human rights lawyer is willing to do so if US pushes ahead
* UK now acting as interlocutor between US and Iran. Lammy delivered US message in Geneva yesterday - essentially surrender. Giving up Uranian enrichment, handing over civilian nuclear programme to a third party. It’s a high bar. The aim is to get Iran and US talking
* Concerns that 2 week window is a decision deferred rather than a change of heart - govt was convinced time for talking was over last week before Trump’s sudden change of heart
The PM needs to sack Hermer, his "legal" advice has always been nothing more than his own opinion dressed up in legalism. It's lawfare from within the cabinet. Starmer needs to clean house or he will take Labour to it's worst ever drubbing, to the extent that they will never be in power again.
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
Talking of dystopia.. try driving down the A217 from the top of Reigate hill into Wimbledon. Av Speed cameras.. then fixed cameras with the speed limit varying between 20 and 50.. let's not forget the Ulez cameras and the red light cameras. It's almost impossible to drive and not get nicked. I shall never drive down that road again. It would be interesting to know how much money the councils make out of this legal thievery.
You could just drive at or below the speed limit. It’s not hard.
Come and gdo it Gallowgate..it's not easy with so many changes
You should be grateful you don't like in the US: a lot of municipalities basically fund themselves off speeding tickets of out of towners. All too often a change of speed limit is "hidden" in some foliage or just after a bridge. And then 200 yards further down the road is a sheriff with a gold tooth.
Oh yeah, and then they take four months to "post" the speeding ticket to the system, so you think they've forgotten about it. And it means they can double or quadruple the amount owed because you didn't pay on time.
Fifth columnists. They hate this country and our values.
People laughed when I suggested that these pro-palestine "protests" were just a front for supporting terrorism, it's time to shut them down and start arresting people who want nothing more than the destruction of our nation.
You'll have to arrest half the congregation* at my church in the north of Scotland, who spend the weekend with Palestine flags at Tesco collecting cash for Christian Aid.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
When helping out with communal workshops it was quite funny to talk to people who had no idea that a “decent person” didn’t necessarily share all their views.
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I like to wind them up by saying my primary motivation for cycling is to reduce our need for Russian oil and gas and support Ukraine. I've even got the sticker on my top tube.
Out of curiosity, if a nuclear facility is attacked causing radiological materials there to escape into the environment, what sort of radius would be affected and how hazardous would it be?
I'm guessing it would be less hazardous than a Chernobyl style meltdown and should be pretty localised?
Uranium is fairly harmless. I wouldn’t eat any for your tea. But it oxidises on contact with air and uranium oxide is pretty stable.
Trying to get the enriched stuff the Iranians have to do anything other than sit there would be hard. Unless they are keeping it in one small room.
In many ways the highly enriched stuff is less dangerous: it's very long half lives means it's not constantly emiting radiation.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
They don't look like benefit claimants too me. Far too young.
Out of curiosity, if a nuclear facility is attacked causing radiological materials there to escape into the environment, what sort of radius would be affected and how hazardous would it be?
I'm guessing it would be less hazardous than a Chernobyl style meltdown and should be pretty localised?
Uranium is fairly harmless. I wouldn’t eat any for your tea. But it oxidises on contact with air and uranium oxide is pretty stable.
Trying to get the enriched stuff the Iranians have to do anything other than sit there would be hard. Unless they are keeping it in one small room.
In many ways the highly enriched stuff is less dangerous: it's very long half lives means it's not constantly emiting radiation.
Still: uranium is pretty possible, iirc.
Toxic. It's pretty toxic. Not possible.
What was Litvinenko poisoned with?
Polonium - which is fiercely radioactive. So much so that it actually “jumps” - atoms break of it and migrate around labs, unless the sample are hermetically sealed.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
My aunt's last ex-husband (her fourth, I think), and father of my youngest cousin Emily, has just been arrested for grooming a fourteen year old girl online
My aunt ditched him about thirty years ago, and has been married to her fifth husband for more than twenty five years. I always thought he was weird, and quite possibly a wrongun, but had no idea he was that kind of wrongun..
They walk amongst us unfortunately. Was involved on the committee of a music band. One of the most trusted members who coached the youngsters was found out to be doing more than grooming. We hadn't a clue until the girl told her parents - who were good friends with the perp.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Half of the omni-protesters need to get a job and stop living off the Bank of Mummy and Daddy.
Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
Windrush Suffragette Weaver…
Vomit
Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
I suggest
Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
I am assuming that final paragraph contained an ironic comedic suggestion.
Not at all.
Without Bob Clive much of the population along that line might now be living in the banlieues of Paris.
We don't recognise the importance of the Seven Years War and we should.
Whereas the Napoleonic and Hundred Years wars are over emphasised.
Just so you know, if you had called him "Bob" it would not have gone down so well.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Half of the omni-protesters need to get a job and stop living off the Bank of Mummy and Daddy.
Introduce weekly fines for parents with NEET kids that live at home. That will get them out of the house and into the first available job. It would be brilliantly funny seeing Tarquin and Olivia working in McDonalds.
My aunt's last ex-husband (her fourth, I think), and father of my youngest cousin Emily, has just been arrested for grooming a fourteen year old girl online
My aunt ditched him about thirty years ago, and has been married to her fifth husband for more than twenty five years. I always thought he was weird, and quite possibly a wrongun, but had no idea he was that kind of wrongun..
They walk amongst us unfortunately. Was involved on the committee of a music band. One of the most trusted members who coached the youngsters was found out to be doing more than grooming. We hadn't a clue until the girl told her parents - who were good friends with the perp.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Doesn't the fact they do at the weekend suggest they have jobs? And well-paying ones at that?
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Love the way you roll from one prejudice (benefit claimants) to another (Pro-Palestinians) without a break in your step. It must be a gift you have.
Fifth columnists. They hate this country and our values.
People laughed when I suggested that these pro-palestine "protests" were just a front for supporting terrorism, it's time to shut them down and start arresting people who want nothing more than the destruction of our nation.
Was there much laughing? The ‘Minnesota shooter was a Dem’ stuff otoh still provides a grim rictus. Was it only a week ago?
Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.
I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.
The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.
Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Love the way you roll from one prejudice (benefit claimants) to another (Pro-Palestinians) without a break in your step. It must be a gift you have.
It's all an amorphous group of lefty scroungers, benefit cheats and agitators.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
you've become such a silly little fascist, maybe it's time to get back to work before you end up all the way down the rabbit hole
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
As many as a dozen members of government are prepared to resign rather than support Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial welfare reforms
A senior government figure told The Times that about 12 of their colleagues had privately indicated they would find it impossible to support the measures that are due to be voted on a week on Wednesday
Another leading opponent said that as many as 80 Labour MPs were “holding firm” in opposition to the plans and believed the government would ultimately have to pull the vote
‘If this goes through this will be our version of tuition fees,’they said. ‘The optics of taking away money from people who find it difficult to go to the toilet are terrible’
If Labour cave on this, they’ve pretty much given up trying to be a serious, purposeful government. That’s not based on any of my opinions about the changes, but the fact that a government elected 12 months ago with a huge majority is struggling to guide any vaguely contentious economic policy through.
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
But I doubt it included saying therefore Obama isn't barred from running for a third term?
Well, on a strict originalist interpretation it actually applies solely to white men, with some allowance for others to be rated as a fraction of their importance for apportionment.
Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?
Windrush Suffragette Weaver…
Vomit
Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons
I suggest
Agincourt Bomber Harris Falklands Ripper (serving east london) Potato Famine
Windrush is okay as it goes through many of the traditional West Indian communities and so is easy to understand for those who know the demographic history.
I suggest the liberty line should be renamed the Clive to give some recognition to Indian immigrants.
Is the Liberty Line the one from Upminster to Romford? Always known as the push & pull. I wonder how long it will take for people to call them by their new, official names. It’s a bit like when a pub changes it’s name, took me about a decade to call The Bull in Hornchurch ‘The Firkin’
As many as a dozen members of government are prepared to resign rather than support Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial welfare reforms
A senior government figure told The Times that about 12 of their colleagues had privately indicated they would find it impossible to support the measures that are due to be voted on a week on Wednesday
Another leading opponent said that as many as 80 Labour MPs were “holding firm” in opposition to the plans and believed the government would ultimately have to pull the vote
‘If this goes through this will be our version of tuition fees,’they said. ‘The optics of taking away money from people who find it difficult to go to the toilet are terrible’
If Labour cave on this, they’ve pretty much given up trying to be a serious, purposeful government. That’s not based on any of my opinions about the changes, but the fact that a government elected 12 months ago with a huge majority is struggling to guide any vaguely contentious economic policy through.
Slight problem for Labour is that I don’t remember voting to remove benefits for disabled people. If it was in the manifesto it was in white (invisible) ink in 4pt print
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
When helping out with communal workshops it was quite funny to talk to people who had no idea that a “decent person” didn’t necessarily share all their views.
IIRC there was some academic research into the US voting population some years back which concluded that the average voter assumes everybody else has the same opinion as them on policies, hates "politics" and seeing people arguing about it and wants them to "just get things done", and thinks the only reason the things they want don't get done is that politicians are corrupt...
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
People are entitled to believe stupid things.
Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
Love the way you roll from one prejudice (benefit claimants) to another (Pro-Palestinians) without a break in your step. It must be a gift you have.
It's all an amorphous group of lefty scroungers, benefit cheats and agitators.
The Sun says : Sir Keir, show some backbone, and stop these lefty soap-dodgers undermining Britain !
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
I think WFP, triple lock and fuel duty were much stronger signals that the government is struggling to face down public opinion.
The markets would expect a Labour government to support people via the NHS and disability support, including through tax rises. It's the lack of steel on other elements of spending/tax that is going to jitter some nerves.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
These so called cuts, it’s simply slowing a rapid rate of growth. It’s still going to grow by a large amount over the parliament.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
I think WFP, triple lock and fuel duty were much stronger signals that the government is struggling to face down public opinion.
The markets would expect a Labour government to support people via the NHS and disability support, including through tax rises. It's the lack of steel on other elements of spending/tax that is going to jitter some nerves.
Im not so sure.i think they crave assurance Labour can deliver within its own rules.the u turning and failure to get stuff through (should it occur) will cause issues- irrespective of what policy The message the markets get is 'labour cannot make tough choices, the UK finances are not secure in their hands'
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
These so called cuts, it’s simply slowing a rapid rate of growth. It’s still going to grow by a large amount over the parliament.
Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…
Much better on the river when it’s empty…
Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
These so called cuts, it’s simply slowing a rapid rate of growth. It’s still going to grow by a large amount over the parliament.
On a Micro level. Not on a Macro level. There’s always winners and losers. The rate of spend it still climbing and climbing by a rather large amount. On this the govt has the right idea. Get people back into work. So much else they can do with cliff edges.
Starmer should make it tied to a confidence vote and front the rebels out.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
I think WFP, triple lock and fuel duty were much stronger signals that the government is struggling to face down public opinion.
The markets would expect a Labour government to support people via the NHS and disability support, including through tax rises. It's the lack of steel on other elements of spending/tax that is going to jitter some nerves.
Fuel duty is a tax that is being phased out and is possibly the most regressive of all taxes.
It would be stupid for the government to increase it.
Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…
Much better on the river when it’s empty…
Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
These so called cuts, it’s simply slowing a rapid rate of growth. It’s still going to grow by a large amount over the parliament.
They are also beefing up the legislation on recovery of 'fraud'. Problem is the DWP is such a basket case they make the Home Office look professional. Expect lots of negative (and highly positive) press from the usual sources.
Gideon Saar, Israel’s foreign minister, said in a post on X: “The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps… tried to carry out an attack on Israeli citizens in Cyprus.”
“Thanks to the activity of the Cypriot security authorities, in cooperation with Israeli security services, the terror attack was thwarted.”
We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
I expect I may be about to cross swords on the RAF refuelling aircraft protests with some Green people, just as I did on Extinction Rebellion peeps being sent to prison.
Just a I have here with a few outliers on Lucy Connolly.
Gideon Saar, Israel’s foreign minister, said in a post on X: “The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps… tried to carry out an attack on Israeli citizens in Cyprus.”
“Thanks to the activity of the Cypriot security authorities, in cooperation with Israeli security services, the terror attack was thwarted.”
Seems to have been two - British and Cypriot bases, and Israelis in Cyprus.
Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…
Much better on the river when it’s empty…
Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.
Talking of dystopia.. try driving down the A217 from the top of Reigate hill into Wimbledon. Av Speed cameras.. then fixed cameras with the speed limit varying between 20 and 50.. let's not forget the Ulez cameras and the red light cameras. It's almost impossible to drive and not get nicked. I shall never drive down that road again. It would be interesting to know how much money the councils make out of this legal thievery.
You could just drive at or below the speed limit. It’s not hard.
Come and gdo it Gallowgate..it's not easy with so many changes
You should be grateful you don't like in the US: a lot of municipalities basically fund themselves off speeding tickets of out of towners. All too often a change of speed limit is "hidden" in some foliage or just after a bridge. And then 200 yards further down the road is a sheriff with a gold tooth.
Oh yeah, and then they take four months to "post" the speeding ticket to the system, so you think they've forgotten about it. And it means they can double or quadruple the amount owed because you didn't pay on time.
With the Times reportimg up to 12 resignations over benefits cuts feared by govt and no certainty they can get it through and may pull the vote, starmer has a problem - if he pulls it or loses it the markets may lose faith that the UK can deliver anything within its fiscal rules and Truss us up, or he limps home splitting the party and orobably much more likely to face a challrnge in some form. Landslides lead to weak government
These so called cuts, it’s simply slowing a rapid rate of growth. It’s still going to grow by a large amount over the parliament.
On a Micro level. Not on a Macro level. There’s always winners and losers. The rate of spend it still climbing and climbing by a rather large amount. On this the govt has the right idea. Get people back into work. So much else they can do with cliff edges.
Starmer should make it tied to a confidence vote and front the rebels out.
If he wants to get people into work he needs to be cutting out of work benefits, not PIP, and do something to create vacancies for over a million disabled people to access. Or means test the NHS instead, no free treatment for higher rate taxpayers
Putting aside the fact it’s not a cool place to go, is visiting Dubai going to be dangerous in the near future?
Dangerous for who?
The rich and powerful who live there? Not a lot
The educated contractors who work there: fine, provided you keep it *really* on the down-low.
The poor immigrant workforce who build it? Quite a lot.
The drugged girls who provide perverted sex to the wealthy? A nontrivial chance of getting murdered.
I often slag off the UK (and for good reasons), but the Persian Gulf states are at least another level down in badness.
If you were talking about backwash from the Israel-Iraq war, it'll probably be OK in Dubai. Even if Iraq is nuked, you'll probably be safe from fallout.
As many as a dozen members of government are prepared to resign rather than support Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial welfare reforms
A senior government figure told The Times that about 12 of their colleagues had privately indicated they would find it impossible to support the measures that are due to be voted on a week on Wednesday
Another leading opponent said that as many as 80 Labour MPs were “holding firm” in opposition to the plans and believed the government would ultimately have to pull the vote
‘If this goes through this will be our version of tuition fees,’they said. ‘The optics of taking away money from people who find it difficult to go to the toilet are terrible’
If Labour cave on this, they’ve pretty much given up trying to be a serious, purposeful government. That’s not based on any of my opinions about the changes, but the fact that a government elected 12 months ago with a huge majority is struggling to guide any vaguely contentious economic policy through.
Slight problem for Labour is that I don’t remember voting to remove benefits for disabled people. If it was in the manifesto it was in white (invisible) ink in 4pt print
No, but that’s the political choice they made. Regardless of its merits, they have based their first year in government around this idea that they are apparently willing to make tough choices when it comes to control of the public finances. But if every tough choice they make ends up collapsing, their credibility with the markets begins to weaken.
I think that is the 10th time that Bumrah has got Root in tests. He is some bowler.
He is indeed, though India are very reliant upon him . . . its nearly 500 runs scored without any wickets taken for all other bowlers combined since the last non-Bumrah wicket.
I also struggle to take him as seriously as he deserves, as he sounds like a Thundercats character.
Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.
I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.
The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.
Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:
For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.
Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.
He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?
Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.
We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?
From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.
But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.
I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.
Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.
I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.
The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.
Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:
For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.
Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.
He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them back down. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway? Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, so of course he can't be trusted.
We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?
From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway, and there won't be any invasion.
But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.
I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure they will work night and day to blunt Israel's advantage.
None of the protagonists have much to be said in their favour. And who knows how this plays out - certainly not Don/Bibi.
The only certainty is that, as you suggest, China is almost certain to replace Russia as the preferred non-western arms supplier.
Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…
Much better on the river when it’s empty…
Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.
Bada boom.
I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
They did sabotage UK military assets. It's on a different level to closing off a major motorway, however irritating or economically damaging that might be.
I guess the counter argument is it's simply criminal damage, and if there was no reason to proscribe them before this incident then why is there now?
Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.
I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.
The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.
Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:
For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.
Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.
He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?
Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.
We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?
From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.
But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.
I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.
At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
Hilarious that you blame Netanyahu for this conflict when Iran are guilty of enriching uranium to 60% for which the only purpose to do that is seeking nuclear weapons. Power generation doesn't need uranium past 3-5%.
Some of you guys act as if Netanyahu is at fault for this, not Iran.
The whole world should be grateful for Netanyahu that he stepped up to the plate to stop the Mullahs from getting nukes when nobody else was prepared to do so. He should be nominated for something equivalent to the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
He should still be replaced as PM and imprisoned for corruption, but on this, thank goodness he did the right thing.
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https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1936406621925888286
British man arrested on charges of spying in Cyprus
Im dripping 🤪
Without Bob Clive much of the population along that line might now be living in the banlieues of Paris.
We don't recognise the importance of the Seven Years War and we should.
Whereas the Napoleonic and Hundred Years wars are over emphasised.
Would not be impressed.
My enemy's enemy doesn't work so well in the real world.
People laughed when I suggested that these pro-palestine "protests" were just a front for supporting terrorism, it's time to shut them down and start arresting people who want nothing more than the destruction of our nation.
The rationale as follows:
The Liberty line celebrates the freedom that is a defining feature of London and references the 'historical independence' of the people of Havering, through which it runs.
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As many as a dozen members of government are prepared to resign rather than support Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial welfare reforms
A senior government figure told The Times that about 12 of their colleagues had privately indicated they would find it impossible to support the measures that are due to be voted on a week on Wednesday
Another leading opponent said that as many as 80 Labour MPs were “holding firm” in opposition to the plans and believed the government would ultimately have to pull the vote
‘If this goes through this will be our version of tuition fees,’they said. ‘The optics of taking away money from people who find it difficult to go to the toilet are terrible’
https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1936469416721387755
As the US moves B2 stealth bomber to Diego Garcia, here’s our weekend read on the difficult choices ahead for Starmer:
* Lord Hermer, the AG, has advised that allowing US to use Diego Garcia as base for bombing campaign would be a potential breach of international law
* He has raised concerns that it would go beyond definition for self defence under Article 51 of UN Charter, specifically whether attack by Iran can be considered ‘imminent’
* The US has taken a broad definition of imminence in the past. Hermer does not appear to share that view
* But it is technically just advice. It is not absolute, it highlights legal risks. Starmer can go ahead and give US green light. But question is whether the human rights lawyer is willing to do so if US pushes ahead
* UK now acting as interlocutor between US and Iran. Lammy delivered US message in Geneva yesterday - essentially surrender. Giving up Uranian enrichment, handing over civilian nuclear programme to a third party. It’s a high bar. The aim is to get Iran and US talking
* Concerns that 2 week window is a decision deferred rather than a change of heart - govt was convinced time for talking was over last week before Trump’s sudden change of heart
https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1936469495020712022
A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.
The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.
The school defended the decision.
https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social/post/3ls4oomqrxc2q
Oh yeah, and then they take four months to "post" the speeding ticket to the system, so you think they've forgotten about it. And it means they can double or quadruple the amount owed because you didn't pay on time.
*about 6 people.
It applies to three-fifths of non-white Americans.
Or in Glasgow, Boabie.
The ‘Minnesota shooter was a Dem’ stuff otoh still provides a grim rictus. Was it only a week ago?
I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.
The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.
Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:
https://polymarket.com/event/us-military-action-against-iran-before-july?
But I doubt it included saying therefore Obama isn't barred from running for a third term?
That's one reason why it's a bit shit.
Not by hypothetical Tony Hancock fantasists in Downing Street.
Landslides lead to weak government
...after he wrote in late March that Jews must be "abolished by any means necessary", the school suspended him..
Sir Keir, show some backbone, and stop these lefty soap-dodgers undermining Britain !
The markets would expect a Labour government to support people via the NHS and disability support, including through tax rises. It's the lack of steel on other elements of spending/tax that is going to jitter some nerves.
https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1935789362190352576?s=61
The message the markets get is 'labour cannot make tough choices, the UK finances are not secure in their hands'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c628jy5rg78o
Starmer should make it tied to a confidence vote and front the rebels out.
It would be stupid for the government to increase it.
Bada boom.
https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/60587/documents/6447
“Thanks to the activity of the Cypriot security authorities, in cooperation with Israeli security services, the terror attack was thwarted.”
Just a I have here with a few outliers on Lucy Connolly.
Or means test the NHS instead, no free treatment for higher rate taxpayers
- The rich and powerful who live there? Not a lot
- The educated contractors who work there: fine, provided you keep it *really* on the down-low.
- The poor immigrant workforce who build it? Quite a lot.
- The drugged girls who provide perverted sex to the wealthy? A nontrivial chance of getting murdered.
I often slag off the UK (and for good reasons), but the Persian Gulf states are at least another level down in badness.If you were talking about backwash from the Israel-Iraq war, it'll probably be OK in Dubai. Even if Iraq is nuked, you'll probably be safe from fallout.
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We are all Palestine Action.
The people who should be criminalised are those facilitating genocide - not those trying to stop it.
Plans to proscribe @Pal_action on the same legal footing as ISIS are deranged and vile.
Mobilise this Monday at 12pm.
Please share!
https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/1936477516740563233
I also struggle to take him as seriously as he deserves, as he sounds like a Thundercats character.
Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.
He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?
Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.
We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?
From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.
But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.
I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.
At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
Lead by lunchtime tomorrow
The only certainty is that, as you suggest, China is almost certain to replace Russia as the preferred non-western arms supplier.
I guess the counter argument is it's simply criminal damage, and if there was no reason to proscribe them before this incident then why is there now?
Some of you guys act as if Netanyahu is at fault for this, not Iran.
The whole world should be grateful for Netanyahu that he stepped up to the plate to stop the Mullahs from getting nukes when nobody else was prepared to do so. He should be nominated for something equivalent to the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
He should still be replaced as PM and imprisoned for corruption, but on this, thank goodness he did the right thing.