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Will the UK’s unelected ruler take the advice of America’s unelected ruler? – politicalbetting.com
Will the UK’s unelected ruler take the advice of America’s unelected ruler? – politicalbetting.com
Given the dark history of the Royal Family when it comes to coups (King Edward VIII would have been installed as King if the Nazis had invaded and Lord Mountbatten (the current King’s mentor) was touted to become PM if a coup against Harold Wilson succeeded, or Queen Elizabeth II’s disgraceful role in the sacking of Gough Whitlam I can understand why Elon Musk has tweeted this.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-03/uk-right-warns-trump-allies-that-musk-s-posts-have-gone-too-far
- Calling for another election is fine, as far as I am concerned.
- Getting the House of Commons to debate having another election via enough petition votes is fine.
- The majority of the House voting for a dissolution and another election, this evening. Fine
The last isn't going to happen. Short of Starmer announcing that Trump is the Saviour Of The World - that *might* swing enough Labour MPs against him.
Kemi is in an official office, but the front page of today’s Daily Telegraph and Musk on X decides strategy and positions for her?
Then Kemi MUST lead at PMQs asking: how many beloved pets have been stolen and eaten by these outsiders to our country, for sure that hell is warmer than North Yorkshire today Bobby J will ask exactly this, at any moment.
This politics is developing just as awful for the Conservatives and their leader as could possibly have feared - ‘voting blocks’ on the marmite questions at the next General Election that favours Labour and Libdems mopping up seats from small % of votes from shrinking turnouts.
All Kemi’s questions at the next PMQs, at ALL PMQs this year, must flag to voters how an incoming government inherited a growing economy, that will now have absolutely no growth for the whole of 2025! leading to higher taxes and more borrowing to fill the expanding black hole.
Kemi should look to today’s FT front page, not the DT.
Social media is virtually out of control with Musk pouring petrol on the flames
We can jump.up and down and shout to the heavens, but what we really need is good governance and I do not see where that is coming from
Very difficult times ahead
Plus her son (and current King) endorsed the sacking.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/24/prince-charless-letter-to-john-kerr-reportedly-endorsing-sacking-of-whitlam-condemned
(That does get rather murky if the Prime Minister had been sacked, but the convention would be I think to go with the elected rather than appointed PM.)
Truthfully I don't think anyone comes terribly well out of the farrago - Whitlam was recklessly arrogant to the point of unconstitutionality, Fraser was utterly cynical to the same degree, Kerr showed atrocious judgement and moral cowardice throughout - but it's hard to say that the Queen was deeply implicated.
However it will haunt labour until the next election and it could easily damage and even end individual careers.
In return, a story common among boys and young men in my youth: The boy calls at the family home for a first date. At that time it was common, at least in middle class families for her father to have a talk with the boy, before the girl came down to meet him. The boy and their father have their talk -- and the boy can't help noticing that the father is in the middle of cleaning and oiling his gun. Nothing is said, and nothing need be.
(Did such things actually happen? Sure, though I have no idea how often.)
Could be bollocks. My friend is loyal Labour. Centrist
Poor old George Soros was called all sorts of names for his wealth though he certainly didn't parade it.
I remember visiting a garden centre on Cap ferrat and I noticed that there was a security man talking into his sleeve on the gate next door. I asked who was living there and he said the man wanted complete anonymity but he was an extremely nice but shy man. It was only several years later when they reported his death that I learnt it was Paul Allen
It's not up to such a hypothetical individual.
Oh... you mean Musk!
Yes, him too.
That said, if the House *did* vote for an election, and the PM ignored it, you'd expect that a Confidence vote would be held within days.
Well, they did remove MacDonald but that was only after he'd literally walked out on them and set up government with the Tories.
Well, I say last day of the holidays. I've only a had a few days off doing work of some description. Just that none of it has been for clients.
The ideological project which is in trouble is your beloved Brexit.
Starmer is quite the loner and has no ideological group around him, he’s also got zero rizz and no charm
Maybe he will be the exception that proves the rule, but I don’t put chances of his going higher than 15%. Unless there’s a scandal
If only we had the Tories in government, the "modern UK" would not be "in trouble". It was a paradise until July, and Labour broke it.
Boooooo I say, Booooooo. The only way to save our democracy, our modern UK is to overthrow democracy. People Voted the Wrong Way and we must Vote Again. Just as we didn't after Brexit where the exact same people suggested it would be outrageous to overthrow democracy and vote again.
Labour 23%
Conservative 20%
Reform 17%
It is paywalled in the I newspaper
NOA looks popular !!!
If true to form this could be the weekend the media concentrate on shivering pensioners !!!!
It’s “that lot” over there - outsiders surging into our community, responsible for ALL the bad things, from no decent housing or dentists, to grooming gangs, and pets eaten.
If we tolerate this, our own families will be next.
Plus the fact Starmer was head of the criminal justice system, so any enquiry is really all about asking him why he failed us.
The intention is pointing out to everyone, you are a fellow traveller with fascism.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/dec/10/birmingham-city-council-agrees-deal-over-equal-pay-claims
Birmingham city council has reached an agreement to settle historical equal pay claims that left the authority with liabilities estimated at £760m and pushed it into effective bankruptcy.
“Starmer ‘guilty as anyone I know’, says grooming gang whistleblower
Ex-detective Maggie Oliver thinks PM must bear some responsibility for widespread failure to bring those responsible to justice”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/03/starmer-ddp-grooming-gangs-police-maggie-oliver/
However, I'll roll out again my five-point model for when leaders are replaced. Each* point of these has to be fulfilled before a party dumps its leader.
1. A general sense within the party that things are so bad that a change of leader may be or is necessary;
2. A crisis to spark MPs or cabinet ministers into action;
3. A viable mechanism by which the replacement can occur;
4. At least one potential successor who MPs can be confident would likely make the situation better;
5. No potential successors with a reasonable chance of winning who would likely make things worse.
These aren't binary conditions: there are areas of grey between 'this applies' and 'no it doesn't' but at the moment I don't think we can tick any of those boxes with confidence.
* In a really serious crisis, point 5 might not apply - the party might roll the dice with disaster looming even if there's a good chance that doing so could produce an even bigger one - but at the very least, such a scenario would add a good deal of caution into thinking.
Trump and Musk have always funded, supported and voted Democrat, to the day they realised an opportunity for power opening up, that makes them personally much much richer at the expense of America and its people - who Trump and Musk are quite obviously out to fleece and piss on.
The alt right gobbles up all the BS in this alt media age, as they are people who haven’t a clue how to think for themselves like we can - take Leon on PB as perfect example of someone who can’t actually do politics simply because he’s too much a vulgarian at heart - in same way the Dems would never have made Trump and Musk their leaders, or allowed them to use the dummy’s guide to fascism playbook.
But Musk can’t do it. Lacking Trumps charisma, Musk is just gauche, weird and clumsy at using fascism. Musk is like trying to copy the master casserole maker (that’s me actually) but creating some weird tasting gruel disaster which you wouldn’t even want to be left alone in a room with, let alone swallow when he puts it in your mouth.
Musk is literally a laughing stock.
What I do know is that people evidently voted for change / something different, and what it appears is happening with Labour in government is barely any different. The system we have in this country just isn’t fit for purpose.
The ghost of Lady Thatcher is telling them that they're not trying hard enough to be unpopular.
Meanwhile, and on thread, who on the centre-right or right is going to call out this madness?
(Telegraph again)
“The outspoken hedge fund manager questioned why the scandal had been able to continue while those who raised alarms about it were accused of “stirring up racial unrest”.
Accusing Sir Keir and King Charles of “doing nothing to stop this madness”, Mr Ackman added: “Where is the international uproar? What are the UK and international rape victim groups doing to stop these horrendous acts?
“Why wouldn’t Donald Trump consider appropriate sanctions against the UK until these concerns are addressed?””
This is quite astonishing but with a small element of high comedy
The only added extra is that its now been confirmed by a Labour Insider!Like he would even know a LABOUR INSIDER
I mean, you usually turn the heating on when it's cold.
Unless it's an Australian heating system and comes on in their winter, like my old school seemed to have.
Are you really incapable of seeing what the rest of us are seeing?
As opposed to setting the thermostat to 20 and forgetting about it.
If anything, I need some more right wing friends
https://x.com/ben_kew/status/1875193771572506860
The man's a complete fake.
I have said, until I'm blue in the face, in the last thread, and others, going back years, that I take a behaviourist view of the events in Rotherham and elsewhere, that there may have been cultural antecedents, but the ballooning scale of the events was itself due to the de facto immunity from punishment afforded by the authorities, which allowed groups of men to indulge their worst fantasies in a consequence-free environment. I blame the (primarily white) authorities for this cruel dereliction of duty, and that is what we need a public enquiry to establish and root out. We cannot stop crime at source but we can punish it and deprive those responsible of their freedom, in order to deter others as much as anything else.
What happened to those girls is not any kind of laughing matter, and your posts on this have for me crossed from your usual harmless buffoonery to grotesque, callous insensitivity. So well done on that. 🐐
Anyway, he later contracted polio and went on to invent a mobility device that helped him get in and out of bed. Which also worked very well, until the day the machine swallowed him up and killed him by strangulation.
I mention this because something similar seems to be happening to Musk. Twitter always had to be used carefully as a news source, but the quest for engagement has turned it into a machine for generating outrage. That machine now appears to be devouring its owner and (sort of) creator, and sending him and others mad.
It's almost poignant.
What are you saying it is? What ideology has a bigger impact on life in Britain than capitalism?
Youre simply annoyed that the Blair settlement is crumbling. Stupidly Mandelson said these people have nowhere else to go. Well now they have and instead of trying to win votes back its blame the voters..
Bertolt Brecht called it right.
What starts there will v likely come here
ETA others will have central heating (or storage heaters) timed for when the cheaper tariff is in operation.
That said, the attacks from Musk are just another element in the narrative that Labour is turning out to be a very, very unpopular government and upsetting people on all sides of the political divide.
WFA will be the next thing to come back and bite them with this freezing cold weather set to last for a good week or more...
As Terry Pratchett puts it:
“Treating people as things, that’s what sin is …that’s where it begins.”
Mrs Biggles would like you. I go for 17 and she raises it to 20. It oscillates through the day.
Mind you we do also have a coal fire as an affectation.