The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
I'll have a tenner with you that they win back Horshsm.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
What a stupid comment
Time for you to get a cuppa and a rich tea biscuit
Whatever you do don't give him one of those revolutionary republican Garibaldi biscuits.
They're only eaten by those who take an interest in currant affairs.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
Don't be pathetic.
I don't want anyone on 13k a year, pensioner or baby or anyone else, to die from pneumonia.
The most vulnerable to pneumonia are not the elderly, it's those under 1 year old. Yet they're not entitled to the WFA. Odd that isn't it?
Even the minimum wage is higher than £13k a year now
UC single person allowance is £4.4k pa.
UC single person looking after two children = £10.2k pa. That's three people living off just over £10k
Child benefit is also £26 a week and the vast majority of children will be less at risk of pneumonia regardless of parental income than an 80 or 90 year old on £13k a year with no winter fuel allowance now
Infants under one are at a higher risk of pneumonia than adults of any age.
Children under 1's parents will almost all be earning more than £13k a year.
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
I'll have a tenner with you that they win back Horshsm.
They aren’t going to win back Winchester, Wimbledon or Guildford though.
And the remember that Wandsworth is also now Labour.
The funny thing about NICs, the mythical pension pot and the State Pension is that today's pensioners paid historically low rates of employee NICs. For example, in the 70s it was between 5% and 7%. I pay 12% on most of my salary.
Which means that my State Pension will be up to double, in real terms, what current pensioners get
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
The Liberals doubtless thought 1922 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1924.
And they must have thought 1935 was their lowest ebb.
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
We don't need his vote at the moment, we could form a government with won back Reform voters or in coalition with Reform even if Bart stayed voting Labour
You really are a blue Corbynite.
Chase after Farage and his bunch of racists, nuts and loons and I won't be the only ex Tory voting Labour to keep you and him out of office.
38% voted Tory and Reform in July, 34% like you voted Labour
Tory and Reform are different parties.
You don't get to add different parties votes together.
HYUFD always has done.
I know we seem to be beating up on HY tonight, but Jenrick woud have repelled more BlueWall Tories than he would have attracted mad-bastard RedWall Reformers.
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
If they did that, and if Swinney were mad enough to accept, it really would kill Scottish Nationalism stone dead.
May be, like Tennant, you “just wish [her] to shut up”?
Or dream of a world where you wake up and she “ doesn’t exist”?
(Snip)
The problem is that many anti-trans people don't want trans people to exist, deny they exist, and/or want to make it impossible for them to transition at any age.
Hence calling transmen "confused lesbians", or transwomen "men in skirts", and the attempts to stop trans people from using womens toilets.
That is definitely not Rowling's position. On her blog: "Again and again I’ve been told to ‘just meet some trans people.’ I have: in addition to a few younger people, who were all adorable, I happen to know a self-described transsexual woman who’s older than I am and wonderful. Although she’s open about her past as a gay man, I’ve always found it hard to think of her as anything other than a woman, and I believe (and certainly hope) she’s completely happy to have transitioned. Being older, though, she went through a long and rigorous process of evaluation, psychotherapy and staged transformation. The current explosion of trans activism is urging a removal of almost all the robust systems through which candidates for sex reassignment were once required to pass. A man who intends to have no surgery and take no hormones may now secure himself a Gender Recognition Certificate and be a woman in the sight of the law." That's the issue. The vast majority of people are not anti-trans. They are supportive or just not interested. The problem lies with the very small minority of trans activists who are trying to coerce the rest of us to not only accept self identification (fair enough) but use the law to enforce the right of Self ID trans to have access to women's spaces.
I'm supportive of animal rights but not animal rights activists. I'm supportive of protection of the environment and action on climate change, but not of the extreme activists. The activists do more harm than good to their cause. Including trans activists. And yes I know about the suffragettes. I don't think the extremists helped their cause.
She also routinely misgenders people. If she meant what she said above, she wouldn't. It strikes me as being like a racist who knows and likes one black person, and therefore thinks it excuses racism towards others. "Of course I'm not racist; an old friend of mine is black."
I'm unsure that "The vast majority of people are not anti-trans." It'd be interesting to see figures on that.
Even the tweet mocking David Tennant today is a low blow.
One of Tennant's children is, IIRC, trans / gender non-conforming.
To use an analogy people on here might understand, Leon didn't just get the banhammer for casual racism, it was because he offended to the core people whose partners and children are non-white, by implying their loved ones had less value than 'white babies'. And that felt like a visceral, personal attack.
To some of us, trans people aren't just strange concepts that only exist in theory, they are our friends, family and loved ones. And when people make comments that seek to erase their existence, as Rowling frequently does, e.g. with the casual misgendering, it wounds to the very core.
Rowling's transphobia is out there in the open for all to see.
I don't want to get involved in a long, drawn out debate on the trans issue. But I do want to stand up for, and speak up for, the people I love.
David Tennant wasn't some rich lefty engaging in virtue signalling. He was a father standing up for his child's right to exist.
Nobody should be made to feel less valid as a human being because of the colour of their skin, their sexuality, or their gender identity. Rowling, sadly, has a great deal of form with the latter.
But, his remark about Kemi Badenoch was disgraceful. He doesn’t get a pass.
I don't think his quote that his "...life would be easier if she didn't exist" is disgraceful. Although my life is £74 better than it was this morning thanks to her existence, so there's that.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance and triple fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
In government the Tories at least kept winter fuel allowance and didn't raise NI on employers or CGT or hammer farmers as Labour has
Just stop it will you
Many would say the party would be better without you
Join Reform
No I won't join Reform, I have always voted Conservative and to re elect Tory PMs and their governments at every general election since 18 unlike you and Bart.
However it is also clear we cannot get a Conservative majority again without winning back some former Conservative voters now voting Reform. Otherwise at best the Tories could get a hung parliament and would have to form a government with Reform support or less likely now the LDs again
I am quietly confident Kemi will win back some Reform voters,,but as important she needs to win back former conservatives voters like @BartholomewRoberts and others who you seem to want to judge and put off
You are not a good advert for the party sadly
I detect that HY is a little emotional after his guy got well and truly tonked! (Although not as well and truly tonked as he deserved).
HY will come around, he always does.
HYUFD
I feel I've known him so long I can refer to him by his christian name.
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
The Liberals doubtless thought 1922 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1924.
And they must have thought 1935 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1951.
Indeed. I don’t think some people get how vulnerable they are, moreover some people seem still to be in election mode rather than looking ahead.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
Don't be pathetic.
I don't want anyone on 13k a year, pensioner or baby or anyone else, to die from pneumonia.
The most vulnerable to pneumonia are not the elderly, it's those under 1 year old. Yet they're not entitled to the WFA. Odd that isn't it?
Even the minimum wage is higher than £13k a year now
UC single person allowance is £4.4k pa.
UC single person looking after two children = £10.2k pa. That's three people living off just over £10k
Child benefit is also £26 a week and the vast majority of children will be less at risk of pneumonia regardless of parental income than an 80 or 90 year old on £13k a year with no winter fuel allowance now
Infants under one are at a higher risk of pneumonia than adults of any age.
Children under 1's parents will almost all be earning more than £13k a year.
The rest will get cold weather payments
Cold weather payments being £25 given to those in dire need for every 7 day period of very cold weather.
As opposed to £200-300 given even to people who don't need it automatically and without temperature conditions.
Has the fxckwit Farage explained what will happen to the GFA or will this be a re-run of Brexit where the clueless told everyone not to worry about NI l
Has the fxckwit Farage explained what will happen to the GFA or will this be a re-run of Brexit where the clueless told everyone not to worry about NI l
We had no reason to worry about NI.
NI was just an excuse for some to oppose what people had voted for.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
Parliament needs to know if the King is a tax dodger like his mother.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance and triple fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
In government the Tories at least kept winter fuel allowance and didn't raise NI on employers or CGT or hammer farmers as Labour has
Just stop it will you
Many would say the party would be better without you
Join Reform
No I won't join Reform, I have always voted Conservative and to re elect Tory PMs and their governments at every general election since 18 unlike you and Bart.
However it is also clear we cannot get a Conservative majority again without winning back some former Conservative voters now voting Reform. Otherwise at best the Tories could get a hung parliament and would have to form a government with Reform support or less likely now the LDs again
I am quietly confident Kemi will win back some Reform voters,,but as important she needs to win back former conservatives voters like @BartholomewRoberts and others who you seem to want to judge and put off
You are not a good advert for the party sadly
Given a forced choice between Farage and Kemi almost all Reform voters would vote Farage, though she might be able to squeeze a few in seats Labour one last time where the Tories were second.
Bart is a whinging narcissist who expects the Tories do do everything he demands or he throws his toys out the pram!
You don't need to be looking at the racist underbelly for your win. Farage will out-fash Jenrick 8 days a week.
You need to be attracting people like me to your party. Well, not me, but people like me. I am unlikely to ever vote Conservative granted, but I can assure you I will never ever vote for Farage, Jenrick or your hero Johnson to be Prime Minister.
Your party has had a good day today. You should accept that and move forward.
We must now hope so.
I should note though that an Electoral Calculus poll last month had a Badenoch led Tories on 22%, just 1% ahead of Farage's Reform on 21% whereas a Jenrick led Tories was 3% ahead of Reform.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
Don't be pathetic.
I don't want anyone on 13k a year, pensioner or baby or anyone else, to die from pneumonia.
The most vulnerable to pneumonia are not the elderly, it's those under 1 year old. Yet they're not entitled to the WFA. Odd that isn't it?
Even the minimum wage is higher than £13k a year now
The equivalent Universal Credit allowance for someone with no kids and no housing costs is £4,720 per annum. You don't get it at all if you have savings over £16,000, and anything over £6,000 is tapered away.
But of course if you're "unable to work" then even if you are single and have no children you can get £33,000 per year, tax free.
Congratulations to (not Nigerian born) Kemi Badenoch and to the Tory members for choosing the better of the two unpalatable offerings available. I also have some doubts about her being leader at the time of the next GE, but I'm sure she'll give it a good shot. Can she turn her focus away from owning the libz and onto the kind of issues that normal people care about? I suspect not but let's see.
from which the first link is taken, are essential reading on what kind of direction Kemi's Conservatives might take.
I'm an incredibly socially liberal, libertarian type, and still manage to find much to agree with in the above writings.
Rather than being part of the "PC gone mad" "common sense" anti-woke stuff Reform push, it's a much more comprehensive argument that society has become less liberal and tolerant as a result of ideological capture by left leaning bureaucracy - call it the blob, the nu10k, whatever. And that its view is more bureaucracy, more government, is always the solution, and that needs to be challenged.
Her argument seems to be more that the "bureaucratic class" is an assault on capitalism, rather than "woke ideology is destroying our children".
Cautiously optimistic that Kemi will surprise to the upside. With Starmer and Reeves pushing tax and spend, low growth, big government, on us all, we will need an effective opposition to challenge an ever encroaching state.
Thanks for the link, an interesting read although I was slightly triggered by the capitalisation of Malaise.
Thing is, I think this is superficially very appealing (and I say that as a fairly hard leftist). But my only experience of the reality of this is in teaching, where one of the main sources of bureaucracy comes in through trying to prevent kids being abused, either at home or in school. Whilst the form-filling is time consuming and creates unproductive roles for administrators, I still think that is a better world than one in which child molesters are allowed to be with kids unsupervised.
To rephrase, how to do you remove the bureaucracy whilst keeping protections in place? Or do you accept less protection eg more kids being abused? Or is there another solution?
I realise I've just picked one aspect of bureaucracy, but there is also a wider question - which bits of paperwork for eg planning are the important ones? That's quite a hard, value-laden question to answer (not to say it shouldn't be asked, though).
Re-reading your comment on planning
A friend had an old property that he didn’t need. He got the planning permission to turn it into 2 units and then gave it to a local charity for social housing.
The planning people made the charity redo all the expert reports - at a cost of thousands and a delay of months - because the LibDems on the council insisted that because they were addressed to my friend they were no longer valid and it wasn’t possible to assign the reports to the charity.
Is there a name for this council that actually allows councillors to get that close to the details?
It was in Hampshire
There is more to this story. Normally Councillors do not get involved in planning issues. A Councillor would have to "call it in". It seems unlikely in the extreme that a Councillor of any party would call in a planning issue to delay things and increase costs to a charity. It just doesn't ring true.
Yeah, something doesn't add up.
1 - Planning permission is given to a development/site, not to a developer. It is why developers can sell on sites with planning permission between each other routinely. There's no grounds, as far as I can see from the information given, for anything to be done.
2 - Councillors can only affect planning decisions by calling them into a Planning Committee and ruling via Planning Committee. This would be a minor development to start with so would require a call-in to make Planning Committee. We can only call things in if there are material considerations involved. A change of developer is not a material consideration.
3 - If it does get to Planning Committee, officers are very diligent about ensuring that the legal aspects are fully followed. There's often a misapprehension that Planning Committees can make whatever decision they like on applications, whilst in reality they are very constrained by the NPPF, Local Plan, and other legal precedent. Sure, they can make a frivolous decision, but then they are wide open to not only being overturned on appeal, but having costs awarded against them. From the description given, this would not only be a hopelessly frivolous rejection, but it would be so blatantly liable for being overturned on appeal, I'd expect a decent chance for planning officers to outright resign, and any lawyer remotely involved with property law should very strongly advise the applicant to appeal, because there would be basically a zero chance of the applicant losing the appeal and the Local Authority would definitely have costs awarded against it. And the Head of Planning would be hugely embarrassed and there would be strong pressure to have the Chair of the Planning Committee resign.
Which all seems quite excessive for a single small development, really.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
If they did that, and if Swinney were mad enough to accept, it really would kill Scottish Nationalism stone dead.
Would be great to have a Tartan Tory FM though of a Scotland staying in the Union with Thatcherite Forbes as Treasury Minister
It’s funny, then you realise it’s not real, it’s a SNL skit. Very well done though, till they ruin sending him up about half way through by going way over the top.
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
The Liberals doubtless thought 1922 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1924.
And they must have thought 1935 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1951.
A major problem for the Liberals in 1951 was the number of lost deposits in 1950. And of course the ‘wasted’ expenses in all those seats.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
Don't be pathetic.
I don't want anyone on 13k a year, pensioner or baby or anyone else, to die from pneumonia.
The most vulnerable to pneumonia are not the elderly, it's those under 1 year old. Yet they're not entitled to the WFA. Odd that isn't it?
Even the minimum wage is higher than £13k a year now
The equivalent Universal Credit allowance for someone with no kids and no housing costs is £4,720 per annum. You don't get it at all if you have savings over £16,000, and anything over £6,000 is tapered away.
But of course if you're "unable to work" then even if you are single and have no children you can get £33,000 per year, tax free.
A good chunk of that goes to the landlord. (No idea if private or social.) Also: not clear what additional costs she has from being disabled. Taxcis or carers?
On which, see this: (also a bit shit about Ms De Vil's pad, but hey):
"Eyewatering statistic of the month: the British government now spends more on housing, in real terms, than it did in the mid-70s. But now almost all the £30.5bn budget goes on paying benefit, much of it to private landlords, money that is gone forever from public funds. Back then, 95% was spent on building council homes, investments that remained public property. "
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Qualifying at the Sao Paulo Grand Prix has been postponed until Sunday as a result of heavy rain.
The session had been due to start at 18:00 UK time (15:00 local) on Saturday.
A decision was finally made at 16:45 local time on Saturday, after a series of delays, that the track was too wet and conditions were not going to improve.
Governing body the FIA said a decision on a new start time would be made “as soon as possible”.
Formula 1 president Stefano Domenicali said: “The conditions are not safe to drive and there is a problem with the light.”
Sunset is at just after 18:00 local time in Sao Paulo.
Domenicali’s interview with F1’s official television channel was interrupted by Lewis Hamilton, who said: “I want to go out. If you give us better wet tyres, we’d be able to go out in this.”
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
Lot of a talk Reform needing to be dealt with by the Tories, but in Scotland it seems to be SLAB they are giving a headache. Sarwar needs to squeeze them and SCON voters in the central belt by the time the next Holyrood election comes round.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Amusing how many Labour supporters on Twitter are saying Starmer is going to be happier with Kemi as leader. Most of them must know this isn't true. A few may genuinely believe it.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
Congratulations to (not Nigerian born) Kemi Badenoch and to the Tory members for choosing the better of the two unpalatable offerings available. I also have some doubts about her being leader at the time of the next GE, but I'm sure she'll give it a good shot. Can she turn her focus away from owning the libz and onto the kind of issues that normal people care about? I suspect not but let's see.
from which the first link is taken, are essential reading on what kind of direction Kemi's Conservatives might take.
I'm an incredibly socially liberal, libertarian type, and still manage to find much to agree with in the above writings.
Rather than being part of the "PC gone mad" "common sense" anti-woke stuff Reform push, it's a much more comprehensive argument that society has become less liberal and tolerant as a result of ideological capture by left leaning bureaucracy - call it the blob, the nu10k, whatever. And that its view is more bureaucracy, more government, is always the solution, and that needs to be challenged.
Her argument seems to be more that the "bureaucratic class" is an assault on capitalism, rather than "woke ideology is destroying our children".
Cautiously optimistic that Kemi will surprise to the upside. With Starmer and Reeves pushing tax and spend, low growth, big government, on us all, we will need an effective opposition to challenge an ever encroaching state.
Thanks for the link, an interesting read although I was slightly triggered by the capitalisation of Malaise.
Thing is, I think this is superficially very appealing (and I say that as a fairly hard leftist). But my only experience of the reality of this is in teaching, where one of the main sources of bureaucracy comes in through trying to prevent kids being abused, either at home or in school. Whilst the form-filling is time consuming and creates unproductive roles for administrators, I still think that is a better world than one in which child molesters are allowed to be with kids unsupervised.
To rephrase, how to do you remove the bureaucracy whilst keeping protections in place? Or do you accept less protection eg more kids being abused? Or is there another solution?
I realise I've just picked one aspect of bureaucracy, but there is also a wider question - which bits of paperwork for eg planning are the important ones? That's quite a hard, value-laden question to answer (not to say it shouldn't be asked, though).
Re-reading your comment on planning
A friend had an old property that he didn’t need. He got the planning permission to turn it into 2 units and then gave it to a local charity for social housing.
The planning people made the charity redo all the expert reports - at a cost of thousands and a delay of months - because the LibDems on the council insisted that because they were addressed to my friend they were no longer valid and it wasn’t possible to assign the reports to the charity.
Is there a name for this council that actually allows councillors to get that close to the details?
It was in Hampshire
There is more to this story. Normally Councillors do not get involved in planning issues. A Councillor would have to "call it in". It seems unlikely in the extreme that a Councillor of any party would call in a planning issue to delay things and increase costs to a charity. It just doesn't ring true.
Yeah, something doesn't add up.
1 - Planning permission is given to a development/site, not to a developer. It is why developers can sell on sites with planning permission between each other routinely. There's no grounds, as far as I can see from the information given, for anything to be done.
2 - Councillors can only affect planning decisions by calling them into a Planning Committee and ruling via Planning Committee. This would be a minor development to start with so would require a call-in to make Planning Committee. We can only call things in if there are material considerations involved. A change of developer is not a material consideration.
3 - If it does get to Planning Committee, officers are very diligent about ensuring that the legal aspects are fully followed. There's often a misapprehension that Planning Committees can make whatever decision they like on applications, whilst in reality they are very constrained by the NPPF, Local Plan, and other legal precedent. Sure, they can make a frivolous decision, but then they are wide open to not only being overturned on appeal, but having costs awarded against them. From the description given, this would not only be a hopelessly frivolous rejection, but it would be so blatantly liable for being overturned on appeal, I'd expect a decent chance for planning officers to outright resign, and any lawyer remotely involved with property law should very strongly advise the applicant to appeal, because there would be basically a zero chance of the applicant losing the appeal and the Local Authority would definitely have costs awarded against it. And the Head of Planning would be hugely embarrassed and there would be strong pressure to have the Chair of the Planning Committee resign.
Which all seems quite excessive for a single small development, really.
But if all this were widely known there'd be no candidates for public office. What's the point, if you can't use your power to stop people doing stuff you don't like?
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
If I'm paying, they can have a trip to Ikea and a poster of Tennis Girl.
I'm sure Andrew would appreciate it more than the Gainsboroughs.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Nah, because farmed.
Now you see why HYUFD is so sensitive to the issue of IHT on agricultural land.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not and never have been a core Labour voter.
If I were to be polled now I'd say "don't know".
We need a psephological category for people who voted like you in 2024. How about "Starmer's Strivers"?
There seem to be quite a disparate group of us on PB.com who voted Labour for the first time, or at least the first time in a long time, at the GE. The only thing that seems to unite us is the belief that the Tory government had completely jumped the shark, and the country couldn't move on until they were ejected from office. So perhaps something like,
Starmer's Standards Stormtroopers
It's particularly striking given that Labour's poll share at the GE was surprisingly low, that there were so many of us lending our vote to them last time.
I thought you voted Green?
I've almost always previously voted Green, but I voted Labour in GE 2024 because I decided that only nuking the Tories by the largest possible margin was acceptable.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
No all true classical LIBERALS like you prefer things being in the private sector.
True TORIES like me believe in Crown and established church at the pinnacle of the state.
Most true socialists are neither Liberal nor Tory, being republicans who want to abolish the monarchy and disestablish the C of E and socialists who want to nationalise most of the economy and tax higher earners and the rich until the pips squeek
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
I wouldn't entirely rule out an implosion but provided this is the only leadership change of the parliament I'm comfortable in predicting they won't go backwards (which I might not have been had they elected Patel or Jenrick).
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
I think Badenoch will survive, she is the only Conservative leader this century to have won most votes from Tory MPs and Tory members other than Cameron and Johnson.
Given how awful and unpopular this Labour government already is she will also find it much easier to capitalise on that and gain poll leads than Hague did in 1997. I think she will at least keep 2024 Tories and hope Reform eats further into working class Labour votes without getting too close to her. However Jenrick would have been better to appeal to Reform voters, Tugendhat to LD voters and Cleverly to Labour voters so I don't expect to see a surge in Tory support in polls this month
Jenrick is perfectly at liberty to join Reform as are those who seem to think he is the bees knees
The one thing is certain the polls would not have improved if Jenrick had won with his far right agenda
Forget Reform and concentrate on giving Kemi your full backing and watch how she takes on labour, that is where the next election is won or lost
Don’t the Tories need to defeat Reform first to challenge Labour, much as Labour needed to defeat the SDP.
First past the post is cruel. ..
QTWAIN.
The Tories need to defeat Labour and the Lib Dems.
Labour losing its extremists to the Greens, Hamas Independents etc helped them win a landslide majority.
I’m not so sure. You’re obviously fishing in the same pool. I’m not sure the Lib Dena are a rich seam, they’ll be perfectly positioned next time to keep the buggers out.
Every ex Tory like myself who voted Labour or Lib Dem this year* is worth 2 ex Tory to Reform votes if won back.
* Personally I voted Lib Dem in the Council elections and Labour in the GE.
So you were one of the 33% at the GE, now down to 28% of core Labour voters given the Tories are now 1% ahead in the latest poll
I'm not really sure why you think making snide comments like this to someone whose vote your party needs is at all helpful to your cause?
HYUFD has long made it clear that as a Conservative liberal he actively doesn't want my vote.
He'd rather the Tories lose as a purely conservative party to 19th century Tory ideals than win by appealing to right wing liberals as the party has striven to do throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.
I know right wing liberals, you are no right wing liberal. A right wing liberal I could just about understand voting LD or for Blair in the noughties, no right wing liberal would have voted for Labour in July and Starmer and Reeves and their statist, high tax near socialist budget last week
I didn't vote for, and opposed, the tax rising budget last week.
Just as I opposed the tax rising budgets in the last few years by the Conservatives.
Unfortunately with your party preventing enough homes from being built, a policy you personally vehemently champion, Starmer's party was the least worst option this year.
You are just as anti business and high tax as Starmer. Until you stop supporting planning restrictions, the triple lock, blowing money on things like the winter fuel allowance etc there is no difference between them and you in being high tax.
It was of course Jenrick most vehemently pushing new homes.
The fact you want to throw our core vote pensioners on the scrap heap by scrapping the winter fuel allowance confirms we are much better off at the moment without you.
The fact you want to pamper your "core vote" with taxpayers money for no good reason other than they vote for you confirms you're not fit for office.
The fact you want pensioners on £13 k a year to die of pneumonia this year confirms we don't need nor want your vote
Don't be pathetic.
I don't want anyone on 13k a year, pensioner or baby or anyone else, to die from pneumonia.
The most vulnerable to pneumonia are not the elderly, it's those under 1 year old. Yet they're not entitled to the WFA. Odd that isn't it?
Even the minimum wage is higher than £13k a year now
The equivalent Universal Credit allowance for someone with no kids and no housing costs is £4,720 per annum. You don't get it at all if you have savings over £16,000, and anything over £6,000 is tapered away.
There is still a very strong 'have savings? you're going to be f**ked.' meme in the groups I interact with. "have savings? no unemployment benefit for you!", "have savings? no housing benefit for you!" kinda thing.
I sometimes wonder how much that plays into our overall low savings culture.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
Not to worry, HYUFD isn't a real Tory.
How would I know? Both of you claim to be.
Much more important, in the great scheme of things, the earliest known tadpole has been discovered:
And no monkeys will ever write Shakespeare's works. Which seems obscurely relevant to PB, if only I hadn't had a belt of one of my late father's Scottish Malt Whisky Society one-offs (very good one, claimed to be white chocolate raisin flavour etc. etc. and one of only 250 bottles) and then some Cotes du Rhone with the bangers, beans, broccoli and mash, and the brie and bread.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
Lot of a talk Reform needing to be dealt with by the Tories, but in Scotland it seems to be SLAB they are giving a headache. Sarwar needs to squeeze them and SCON voters in the central belt by the time the next Holyrood election comes round.
At the moment it looks like the quickest route for the Tories back to some power at national level in any home nation is in Scotland. On that poll both SLab and the SNP couldn't get legislation through in Holyrood without Tory or Reform support
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
The Tories need to enter the next election as the clear challengers, which means defeating Reform first.
In what world do the Tories not enter the next election as clear challengers?
I fear that in your hurry to give the Tories what you think of as bad advice you have strayed into an absurdity.
Reform want to surpass the Tories. In 2024 they were only a few percentage points behind. It would take much if Badenoch tanks. And even if she doesn’t with only 120 seats in FPTP it is folly to ignored Reform.
23.7 vs 14.3 is "only a few percentage points"?
And can you remind me of the current makeup of Reform's target seats?
So complacent. The SDP had zero % of the vote in 79 and nearly came second in 83. The Tories are more vulnerable than they have ever been. They lost Horsham and Chichester last time. Yet that is ignored. Weird.
You could try responding to the points you're quoting rather than deflecting. You might find it fun.
Eh? The gap is less than 10%, which is mind blowing. The Reform seats are irrelevant, it’s the seats they denied the Tories (and might continue to deny the Tories) that matter. I would say that the Tories only won 120 seats might bother them strategically.
Was.
At the Tories' lowest ebb.
Sometimes parties lose seats or make no progress in the first election after defeats. 1983, 2015, 2001. Don’t assume that 2024 was the lowest ebb.
The Liberals doubtless thought 1922 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1924.
And they must have thought 1935 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1951.
Indeed. I don’t think some people get how vulnerable they are, moreover some people seem still to be in election mode rather than looking ahead.
No, it’s actually a known phenomena - overly optimistic during first terms in opposition. All parties do it.
Actual General Elections often stand somewhat alone from everything that has gone before it in parliament, polling, locals, etc.
If you look at the history books, Lady Thatchers first term was a wild time for polling and by elections - must have got Labours and alliance parties hopes up at tumes, but ultimately Labour had the General Election deadweight around their necks of the 74-79 term in office and the winter of discontent, as well as ideological splits and manifesto too far away of middle ground. Whilst Lady Thatcher put taxes up early on, to spend war chest before election, much like Reeves doing now.
It’s probably forgotten William Hague Tories had great electoral nights and lot of bounce and optimism too. 99 convincingly won a National election. But when it came to GE, the public had not moved about who should be in government since the last time asked.
More recently, Ed and Ed really thought they would wake up next morning in power after the 5 years they had in polling and elections. It appeared they went backward because of Scotland, but reality was, despite many other indications, no change at all from 2010, much like 2001 no change from 97.
With just 4 or 5 years, what someone was like in power before kicked out, is probably too fresh in the minds.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Labour’s support in Scotland has plunged in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s budget, which voters believe will hit them in their pockets and damage the country, a new poll has found.
Backing for Anas Sarwar’s party has dropped to such an extent that it would be virtually impossible for him to form a Scottish government if the results were replicated at the Holyrood 2026 election.
The poll by Norstat, the first conducted in Scotland since the chancellor unveiled her tax and spending plans, suggested that while voters felt warmly about the budget’s main policies, they felt that they would lose out overall.
The research put support for Labour in Scottish parliamentary constituencies at 23 per cent, a drop of seven points since the last survey in August and the lowest since Nicola Sturgeon quit as first minister last March. Backing for Scottish Labour on the more proportional regional list fell by six points to 22 per cent.
Analysis by Sir John Curtice, the polling expert and professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, found this would leave Labour with 29 MSPs, an increase of seven on its current level.
The SNP has failed to capitalise on Labour’s woes — remaining unchanged on 33 per cent for constituency votes and increasing backing by only one point to 29 per cent on the regional list — but its projected return of 51 MSPs would almost certainly see John Swinney remain first minister despite losing 13 seats compared with the 2021 election.
That poll would give the Scottish Conservatives the balance of power at Holyrood, I suspect they would now keep Swinney in office if the SNP as forecast won most seats in return for ruling out indyref2 for the rest of the parliament
Lot of a talk Reform needing to be dealt with by the Tories, but in Scotland it seems to be SLAB they are giving a headache. Sarwar needs to squeeze them and SCON voters in the central belt by the time the next Holyrood election comes round.
At the moment it looks like the quickest route for the Tories back to some power at national level in any home nation is in Scotland. On that poll both SLab and the SNP couldn't get legislation through in Holyrood without Tory or Reform support
"some power"
Ultimately that depends if anyone else is offering them anything.
Also: the SNP bought them off very cheaply with 1000 police officers - at a time when much greater cuts were being made pro rata by the Tories in England.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
Not to worry, HYUFD isn't a real Tory.
How would I know? Both of you claim to be.
Much more important, in the great scheme of things, the earliest known tadpole has been discovered:
And no monkeys will ever write Shakespeare's works. Which seems obscurely relevant to PB, if only I hadn't had a belt of one of my late father's Scottish Malt Whisky Society one-offs (very good one, claimed to be white chocolate raisin flavour etc. etc. and one of only 250 bottles) and then some Cotes du Rhone with the bangers, beans, broccoli and mash, and the brie and bread.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
Not to worry, HYUFD isn't a real Tory.
I will not be lectured on not being a true Tory by a Whig like you!!!
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why would they?
And if he's doing a job for the UK then I have no qualms with him having a salary for that job, but that's not a reason to allow taxes not to be paid.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Amusing how many Labour supporters on Twitter are saying Starmer is going to be happier with Kemi as leader. Most of them must know this isn't true. A few may genuinely believe it.
That's what remains to be seen.
Badenoch will be aggressive, sure. But aggression has to be deadly accurate to work- like fast bowling.
The question about Kemi B is how far she is capable of being accurate. The risk is that she will bowl super-fast well outside the off-stump, and let Boring Old Starmer score a four every over without really doing much.
Still, after three months where not very much real happened, the game is on again.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why would they?
And if he's doing a job for the UK then I have no qualms with him having a salary for that job, but that's not a reason to allow taxes not to be paid.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
Parliament needs to know if the King is a tax dodger like his mother.
His first act was to agree to follow his mother in paying 75% tax, so no.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
We have already sent our bi lingual RNLI Christmas cards to our family in Canada !!!!!
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
Oh, so civil servants are let off paying IHT, etc. etc.? News to us all.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
We have already sent our bi lingual RNLI Christmas cards to our family in Canada !!!!!
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
Oh, so civil servants are let off paying IHT, etc. etc.? News to us all.
Civil servants get a taxpayer funded salary unlike the King and Prince of Wales and also don't pay IHT on the centuries old government buildings they work in
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
He has enough investments and tax advantages to do it himself
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
How are the JMT doing these days?
They were going to get some of my "pile" when I'm done with it but if I recall they had a few problems recently.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
We haven’t had Remembrance Sunday yet. Let alone Advent Sunday.
My Mrs C has also started preparing for it, though. And we’ve booked our Christmas Dinner.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
Not to worry, HYUFD isn't a real Tory.
I will not be lectured on not being a true Tory by a Whig like you!!!
Well you are, strangely, an authentic early 19th century Tory. But that != a 21st century conservative. The crown and the church are niche interests.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
Parliament needs to know if the King is a tax dodger like his mother.
His first act was to agree to follow his mother in paying 75% tax, so no.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
WHY on earth do you think that Muir & Woodland Trusts are obscenities?
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
Oh, so civil servants are let off paying IHT, etc. etc.? News to us all.
Civil servants get a taxpayer funded salary unlike the King and Prince of Wales and also don't pay IHT on the centuries old government buildings they work in
They don't gewt to change the fiscal laws to suit themselves, either: an example:
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Why
As his duties as Prince of Wales are for the State and his role as heir to the throne and next Head of State and need funding
OK so pay him a salary for doing that job.
Say £50,000 per annum sounds reasonable to me.
If he doesn't want to do that job for that salary, let him resign and find someone else willing to do it.
Not a reason to allow him to dodge £400 million in IHT that should be due.
That you think it is, shows how bad value for money you are.
I still don’t think we have any party anywhere in world, in power during this historic credit crunch after Covid reboot, who have won their election.
Even dominant parties in Japan and Botswana who rarely or never lose, have been defeated.
This was a change year in US politics, if Dems win it (they won’t though) it would all be down to what a totally abysmal unelectable candidate Donald Trump actually was.
The GOP have lost their way and need a reset. If Dems get another 4 years here, with voters knowing they are worse off and seriously feeling it, it’s a bonus, and everything Dems do with the power will be a bonus.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
WHY on earth do you think that Muir & Woodland Trusts are obscenities?
Not in the least: I think they are excellent charities and the Woodland Trust have some plots near us. It's the referential apostrophe, not the obscene parenthetic apostrophe.
Muir is BTW indeed the Scots expat in the States who got Yosemite etc. preserved.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
Nah, sell them off.
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Imagine me asking for the state to buy me a new kitchen or a new decorative scheme. In my family house.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
The Duchies belong to the monarch and Prince privately, they do not belong to the state
So if they're owned privately was IHT paid on it, as any other private inheritance faces?
No as otherwise taxpayers would have to fund the Prince of Wales
Taxpayers do fund the Royal Family. I don't quite know how the duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster escaped being part of the crown estate, but the sovereign surrendered their estates in return for the civil list payments when both the monarch and Parliament accepted that taxation voted on by Parliament would always be needed to fund the state, and the monarch would never be able to fund the navy, etc, from their private income alone - as had generally been assumed to be the case in earlier centuries.
Ultimately there is no sense in which the monarch can ever be considered a private citizen because of the roots of the British state lying in the Royal household. Everything the monarch owns belongs to the state, and consequently everything they spend is by virtue of the largesse of British taxpayers.
BIB - What the fuck? Is our parliament not sovereign ?
he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
If its private land then did William pay inheritance tax on everything he inherited privately beyond the tax free allowance everyone is entitled to?
Why should he? The fact he doesn't means taxpayers don't have to fund him.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
He should because everyone should be treated equally.
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
If he did pay inheritance tax, taxpayers would have to pay for new furniture and paintings in Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle ultimately
No they would not
Yes they would
You don't have to bring up Christmas this early. I know the ****ing shops are full of it, and Mrs C has already ordered her charity* Christmas cards and calendars and diary, but there are standards, dammit.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
How are the JMT doing these days?
They were going to get some of my "pile" when I'm done with it but if I recall they had a few problems recently.
They seem to be settling down. I hope so, anyway.
The WT have more impact down in the south of Scotland byu the nature of things - we often walk through woods they manage.
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he ancient property empires that fund the King and the Prince of Wales have remained a closely guarded secret within the royal family and its small circle of advisers for centuries.
Even parliament has been denied access to the list of landholdings held by the royals.
Today, a joint investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reveals the full details of the property estates owned by Charles and Prince William, and the tax-free business deals they have struck to maintain their wealth. The King is worth £610 million, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.
Here for the first time is every plot of land owned by the King and prince through their private fiefdoms — the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/royal-family/article/how-royals-make-millions-king-charles-prince-william-27lkftd2n
The rest will get cold weather payments
And the remember that Wandsworth is also now Labour.
Which means that my State Pension will be up to double, in real terms, what current pensioners get
Right?
RIGHT?!
Until 1924.
And they must have thought 1935 was their lowest ebb.
Until 1951.
I know we seem to be beating up on HY tonight, but Jenrick woud have repelled more BlueWall Tories than he would have attracted mad-bastard RedWall Reformers.
Perhaps Farage would also like us to leave the UN and NATO ? The obsession with the ECHR is the latest attempt to polarize the country.
Can’t Farage just fxck off to the USA and arselick Trump !
When Southampton took the lead in the 85th minute I pleaded with the desperate atheists' mythical power
I begged for a Southampton win, even if it cost an England win, when England were eight points up
As opposed to £200-300 given even to people who don't need it automatically and without temperature conditions.
Oh, congrats again on your new job. The old one was tearing your guts out.
NI was just an excuse for some to oppose what people had voted for.
Why the hell should Parliament have anything to do with private royal duchy land? Yet more of your republican crap!
Profits of those duchies help ensure no taxpayer funds needed for the Prince of Wales and with the crown estate profits no taxpayer funds for the King beyond security either.
You also ignore the good the Duchies do 'A Duchy of Cornwall spokesman said: “The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate with a commercial imperative which we achieve alongside our commitment to restoring the natural environment and generating positive social impact for our communities.
“Prince William became Duke of Cornwall in September 2022 and since then has committed to an expansive transformation of the duchy. This includes a significant investment to make the estate net zero by the end of 2032, as well as establishing targeted mental health support for our tenants and working with local partners to help tackle homelessness in Cornwall.”'
🚨 New polling with @ObserverUK
Following the budget, the Keir Starmer’s approval rating is up 7 points, to -24% (26% approve, 50% disapprove).
https://bsky.app/profile/opiniumresearch.bsky.social/post/3l7yi2wqven26
I should note though that an Electoral Calculus poll last month had a Badenoch led Tories on 22%, just 1% ahead of Farage's Reform on 21% whereas a Jenrick led Tories was 3% ahead of Reform.
On a more positive note though as Labour was down to 29% against Badenoch the Tories still were up to 151 seats with her as leader helped by working class 2024 Labour voters switching to Reform
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/blogs/ec_hypopoll_20241017.html
See link - scroll down to Nicole Healing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv8y68e25o
1 - Planning permission is given to a development/site, not to a developer. It is why developers can sell on sites with planning permission between each other routinely. There's no grounds, as far as I can see from the information given, for anything to be done.
2 - Councillors can only affect planning decisions by calling them into a Planning Committee and ruling via Planning Committee. This would be a minor development to start with so would require a call-in to make Planning Committee. We can only call things in if there are material considerations involved. A change of developer is not a material consideration.
3 - If it does get to Planning Committee, officers are very diligent about ensuring that the legal aspects are fully followed. There's often a misapprehension that Planning Committees can make whatever decision they like on applications, whilst in reality they are very constrained by the NPPF, Local Plan, and other legal precedent. Sure, they can make a frivolous decision, but then they are wide open to not only being overturned on appeal, but having costs awarded against them. From the description given, this would not only be a hopelessly frivolous rejection, but it would be so blatantly liable for being overturned on appeal, I'd expect a decent chance for planning officers to outright resign, and any lawyer remotely involved with property law should very strongly advise the applicant to appeal, because there would be basically a zero chance of the applicant losing the appeal and the Local Authority would definitely have costs awarded against it. And the Head of Planning would be hugely embarrassed and there would be strong pressure to have the Chair of the Planning Committee resign.
Which all seems quite excessive for a single small development, really.
Farmers also shouldn't on their lands nor should family businesses whatever Labour think
Taxpayers shouldn't fund him either, but he should pay the same taxes as you or me.
https://x.com/Teh_Snowflake/status/1852628435786440709?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1852628435786440709|twgr^c08382f538fa79182aa7e63511543bc98ae680b6|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-weirdly-simulates-sex-act-on-microphone-stand/
SO who(m) are YOU rooting for?
Earth vs The Spider (1958)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04kQo2bSe4
On which, see this: (also a bit shit about Ms De Vil's pad, but hey):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/02/draculas-castle-a-monument-to-1980s-excess-is-about-to-be-cruelly-defanged
"Eyewatering statistic of the month: the British government now spends more on housing, in real terms, than it did in the mid-70s. But now almost all the £30.5bn budget goes on paying benefit, much of it to private landlords, money that is gone forever from public funds. Back then, 95% was spent on building council homes, investments that remained public property. "
Qualifying at the Sao Paulo Grand Prix has been postponed until Sunday as a result of heavy rain.
The session had been due to start at 18:00 UK time (15:00 local) on Saturday.
A decision was finally made at 16:45 local time on Saturday, after a series of delays, that the track was too wet and conditions were not going to improve.
Governing body the FIA said a decision on a new start time would be made “as soon as possible”.
Formula 1 president Stefano Domenicali said: “The conditions are not safe to drive and there is a problem with the light.”
Sunset is at just after 18:00 local time in Sao Paulo.
Domenicali’s interview with F1’s official television channel was interrupted by Lewis Hamilton, who said: “I want to go out. If you give us better wet tyres, we’d be able to go out in this.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cdd0ey1v5j9o
All true Conservatives prefer things in the private sector rather than being paid for by the state.
Socialists like you belong in the Labour Party.
Even worse, imagine Tories thinking it just fine and dandy for me to do that.
I'm sure Andrew would appreciate it more than the Gainsboroughs.
Now you see why HYUFD is so sensitive to the issue of IHT on agricultural land.
After 41 overs they reckon England need 86 runs from 94 balls.
After 42 overs they reckon England need 79 runs from 88 balls.
The final 10 overs of an ODI != 100 balls.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/live/c80x2qvky5kt
True TORIES like me believe in Crown and established church at the pinnacle of the state.
Most true socialists are neither Liberal nor Tory, being republicans who want to abolish the monarchy and disestablish the C of E and socialists who want to nationalise most of the economy and tax higher earners and the rich until the pips squeek
"Why Are Democrats Having Such a Hard Time Beating Donald Trump?"
https://www.nytimes.com
So turns out Kemi Badenoch has impeccable judgment.
I sometimes wonder how much that plays into our overall low savings culture.
Much more important, in the great scheme of things, the earliest known tadpole has been discovered:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/oct/30/oldest-ever-giant-tadpole-fossil
And no monkeys will ever write Shakespeare's works. Which seems obscurely relevant to PB, if only I hadn't had a belt of one of my late father's Scottish Malt Whisky Society one-offs (very good one, claimed to be white chocolate raisin flavour etc. etc. and one of only 250 bottles) and then some Cotes du Rhone with the bangers, beans, broccoli and mash, and the brie and bread.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/nov/01/infinite-monkey-theorem-keyboard-tyepwriter-shakespeare-study
Actual General Elections often stand somewhat alone from everything that has gone before it in parliament, polling, locals, etc.
If you look at the history books, Lady Thatchers first term was a wild time for polling and by elections - must have got Labours and alliance parties hopes up at tumes, but ultimately Labour had the General Election deadweight around their necks of the 74-79 term in office and the winter of discontent, as well as ideological splits and manifesto too far away of middle ground. Whilst Lady Thatcher put taxes up early on, to spend war chest before election, much like Reeves doing now.
It’s probably forgotten William Hague Tories had great electoral nights and lot of bounce and optimism too. 99 convincingly won a National election. But when it came to GE, the public had not moved about who should be in government since the last time asked.
More recently, Ed and Ed really thought they would wake up next morning in power after the 5 years they had in polling and elections. It appeared they went backward because of Scotland, but reality was, despite many other indications, no change at all from 2010, much like 2001 no change from 97.
With just 4 or 5 years, what someone was like in power before kicked out, is probably too fresh in the minds.
Ultimately that depends if anyone else is offering them anything.
Also: the SNP bought them off very cheaply with 1000 police officers - at a time when much greater cuts were being made pro rata by the Tories in England.
No they would not
And if he's doing a job for the UK then I have no qualms with him having a salary for that job, but that's not a reason to allow taxes not to be paid.
*John Muir Trust, Woodland Trust, and anything else I haven't spotted in the incoming mail ...
Badenoch will be aggressive, sure. But aggression has to be deadly accurate to work- like fast bowling.
The question about Kemi B is how far she is capable of being accurate. The risk is that she will bowl super-fast well outside the off-stump, and let Boring Old Starmer score a four every over without really doing much.
Still, after three months where not very much real happened, the game is on again.
Oh no they wouldn't.
They were going to get some of my "pile" when I'm done with it but if I recall they had a few problems recently.
My Mrs C has also started preparing for it, though. And we’ve booked our Christmas Dinner.
Ralston did quick update this morning without giving full numbers - but implies 1,048k total vote (yesterday was 951k).
But NBC now showing 1,086k total vote.
Ralston promised another update this afternoon - NV is 7 hours behind (until tomorrow!) so should be within next few hours.
This will be a really important update - fair chance it'll show Dems starting to narrow the Rep lead.
"That's who we are allowing into our country."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/05/scottish-ministers-refuse-to-confirm-if-king-asked-for-rent-freeze-bill-changes
Say £50,000 per annum sounds reasonable to me.
If he doesn't want to do that job for that salary, let him resign and find someone else willing to do it.
Not a reason to allow him to dodge £400 million in IHT that should be due.
That you think it is, shows how bad value for money you are.
Even dominant parties in Japan and Botswana who rarely or never lose, have been defeated.
This was a change year in US politics, if Dems win it (they won’t though) it would all be down to what a totally abysmal unelectable candidate Donald Trump actually was.
The GOP have lost their way and need a reset. If Dems get another 4 years here, with voters knowing they are worse off and seriously feeling it, it’s a bonus, and everything Dems do with the power will be a bonus.
Muir is BTW indeed the Scots expat in the States who got Yosemite etc. preserved.
Totally deranged.
"There'll be a time in life where the weave won't finish properly at the bottom and then we can talk. But right now it's pure genius."
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1852775199361339446
Ultimately there is no sense in which the monarch can ever be considered a private citizen because of the roots of the British state lying in the Royal household. Everything the monarch owns belongs to the state, and consequently everything they spend is by virtue of the largesse of British taxpayers.
The WT have more impact down in the south of Scotland byu the nature of things - we often walk through woods they manage.
On the PRINT edition, that is.