"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
It was the Leeds Caribbean carnival the same weekend. As far as I'm aware, it was a peaceful event where everyone had a good time.
I don’t know why Notting Hill has got so bleak. But it has. Clearly drugs gangs go there to settle scores and bystanders get in the way. Horrible
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
It was the Leeds Caribbean carnival the same weekend. As far as I'm aware, it was a peaceful event where everyone had a good time.
I don’t know why Notting Hill has got so bleak. But it has. Clearly drugs gangs go there to settle scores and bystanders get in the way. Horrible
No.
The gangs go there for a day off. To take a break.
This works as well as Montagues and Capulettes at the same petrol station.
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
The elections in Germany tomorrow should be "interesting". There's a chance that all 3 parties in the national governing coalition could fail to reach the 5% threshold in one or both of the regions.
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
Go through https://vf.politicalbetting.com/ - then on the relevant discussion you can go straight to the last page and read the most recent up to 100 comments in order - or just hit "end" to get to the most recent.
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?
I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
Not on a PC, though; and on this thing anyway I have to scroll through endless More Comments to get to the newest. So unless someone can explain how to reset it in words of fewer than four letters, or point me to the instant access button, I want the newest first please
PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
Go through https://vf.politicalbetting.com/ - then on the relevant discussion you can go straight to the last page and read the most recent up to 100 comments in order - or just hit "end" to get to the most recent.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Well, nobody’s going to believe that. The Met are a violent bunch.
Oh, sorry, you meant the carnival?
The Met are ok. Not as good perhaps as the could and should be, but they have a really tough job, and they do it quite well.
I think the new commissioner is making things better too, although again he could and should be doing better. As a Cambridge mathematician I'd rather expected him to fix it in a week. Kats though, so maybe two weeks.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
It's not "a" carnival, it's always referred to as "carnival" !
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Well, nobody’s going to believe that. The Met are a violent bunch.
Oh, sorry, you meant the carnival?
The Met are ok. Not as good perhaps as the could and should be, but they have a really tough job, and they do it quite well.
I think the new commissioner is making things better too, although again he could and should be doing better. As a Cambridge mathematician I'd rather expected him to fix it in a week. Kats though, so maybe two weeks.
It's a time-honoured sport to bash the Met. And frequently they deserve it.
In the otherwise undistinguished sitcom The Thin Blue Line, Inspector Fowler talks about how a match against Arsenal will be jointly policed in case of trouble by his squad and the Met. He paused and said crossly, 'and a very stupid bunch of ill-mannered louts they are! I anticipate quite appalling behaviour!'
Constable: 'I think that's unfair sir. Most supporters are genuine fans there to watch the match, not cause trouble.'
Fowler: 'I wasn't talking about the fans, I was talking about the Metropolitan Police.'
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Don't worry all the criminals will be arrested, tried and jailed within a few days.
It seems that the authorities can manage to do that when they wish to.
A Labour MP has said he is "shocked" and "profoundly sorry" after it was revealed flats he rents out had black mould and ant infestations.
Jas Athwal, who became the MP for Ilford South in July, said his tenants had been "let down", and pledged that repairs and maintenance work would be completed "swiftly".
He also said he had not previously been aware of the problems by highlighted in a BBC report due to the properties being managed by an agency.
Paul Canal, Conservative leader for Redbridge Council, in north-east London, called for Mr Athwal to resign as a councillor "immediately", describing the conditions of properties owned by Mr Athwal as a "disgrace".
"His role as a councillor is untenable," Mr Canal said.
He said he had called for Redbridge Council to investigate whether Mr Athwal had breached its code of conduct, echoing a similar call made by Andrew Boff, a Conservative member of the London Assembly.
Mr Athwal owns 15 properties, making him the biggest landlord in the House of Commons. The BBC found flats owned by him contained dirty communal areas, lights that did not work and fire alarms hanging loose from the ceiling.
...
The Labour MP also admitted that his flats did not have the correct property licences under a scheme he introduced as the leader of Redbridge Council.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Well, nobody’s going to believe that. The Met are a violent bunch.
Oh, sorry, you meant the carnival?
The Met are ok. Not as good perhaps as the could and should be, but they have a really tough job, and they do it quite well.
I think the new commissioner is making things better too, although again he could and should be doing better. As a Cambridge mathematician I'd rather expected him to fix it in a week. Kats though, so maybe two weeks.
It's a time-honoured sport to bash the Met. And frequently they deserve it.
In the otherwise undistinguished sitcom The Thin Blue Line, Inspector Fowler talks about how a match against Arsenal will be jointly policed in case of trouble by his squad and the Met. He paused and said crossly, 'and a very stupid bunch of ill-mannered louts they are! I anticipate quite appalling behaviour!'
Constable: 'I think that's unfair sir. Most supporters are genuine fans there to watch the match, not cause trouble.'
Fowler: 'I wasn't talking about the fans, I was talking about the Metropolitan Police.'
I'm not entirely sure you can claim random historical license and freedom of the city of London whilst pontificating from some Welsh hill village though! Next thing you know people in London will be claiming sovereignty over your realms! Ah, ...
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
It's not "a" carnival, it's always referred to as "carnival" !
Sooner ot later the philosophy of language and metaphysics rears its ugly head. "Is it possible for 'Notting Hill Carnival' and 'A Carnival at Notting Hill' to have both a different meaning and a different reference? Discuss with reference to Frege's Sinn und Bedeutung"
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
A Labour MP has said he is "shocked" and "profoundly sorry" after it was revealed flats he rents out had black mould and ant infestations.
Jas Athwal, who became the MP for Ilford South in July, said his tenants had been "let down", and pledged that repairs and maintenance work would be completed "swiftly".
He also said he had not previously been aware of the problems by highlighted in a BBC report due to the properties being managed by an agency.
Paul Canal, Conservative leader for Redbridge Council, in north-east London, called for Mr Athwal to resign as a councillor "immediately", describing the conditions of properties owned by Mr Athwal as a "disgrace".
"His role as a councillor is untenable," Mr Canal said.
He said he had called for Redbridge Council to investigate whether Mr Athwal had breached its code of conduct, echoing a similar call made by Andrew Boff, a Conservative member of the London Assembly.
Mr Athwal owns 15 properties, making him the biggest landlord in the House of Commons. The BBC found flats owned by him contained dirty communal areas, lights that did not work and fire alarms hanging loose from the ceiling.
...
The Labour MP also admitted that his flats did not have the correct property licences under a scheme he introduced as the leader of Redbridge Council.
I mean, it’s not perfect but it’s fairly straightforward and does what most people want it to.
If you struggle with comments in comment order, just scroll to the foot of the page, surely?
Yeah that isn't the issue for me. Both on my PC and phone I have to reload the comments after so many so if there are 1000 comments it takes me umpteen reloads and ages to get to the latest comment. I would rather not move and have to learn new stuff, but it now takes me ages just to see the new comments each time, unless we limit each thread to 100 comments.
Oh and on the last thread @rsc1000 autocorrect or bad typing changed the word 'near' to 'need'. So a request asking you whether you were near a solution came out a bit like a command from me demanding you implement one tout de suite - Sorry.
I think the only item I find tricky on Vanilla is to navigate to read the entire post, whicch requires 3 or 4 clicks.
So I tend to read the politicalbetting.com home link and then click on the individual deep link form the 1st comment (which is on the comment timestamp) to drop me straight into Vanilla.
I like that Vanilla drops me back in at the point I left if I am spelunking through the comments.
Yvette Cooper is aiming for a half-way house betweeen "the Notting Hill Carnival" and the pretentious "Carnival", favoured by Sadiq Khan, by dropping the article but keeping the location:
A Labour MP has said he is "shocked" and "profoundly sorry" after it was revealed flats he rents out had black mould and ant infestations.
Jas Athwal, who became the MP for Ilford South in July, said his tenants had been "let down", and pledged that repairs and maintenance work would be completed "swiftly".
He also said he had not previously been aware of the problems by highlighted in a BBC report due to the properties being managed by an agency.
Paul Canal, Conservative leader for Redbridge Council, in north-east London, called for Mr Athwal to resign as a councillor "immediately", describing the conditions of properties owned by Mr Athwal as a "disgrace".
"His role as a councillor is untenable," Mr Canal said.
He said he had called for Redbridge Council to investigate whether Mr Athwal had breached its code of conduct, echoing a similar call made by Andrew Boff, a Conservative member of the London Assembly.
Mr Athwal owns 15 properties, making him the biggest landlord in the House of Commons. The BBC found flats owned by him contained dirty communal areas, lights that did not work and fire alarms hanging loose from the ceiling.
...
The Labour MP also admitted that his flats did not have the correct property licences under a scheme he introduced as the leader of Redbridge Council.
The Labour MP has served his purpose which was to replace lefty Sam Tarry MP who was kicked out by Keir Starmer for having an opinion and being besties with Angela Rayner.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Here are the stats for previous years.
Stabbings by year:
2017 12 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2018 7 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2019 18 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2022 7 stabbings including one fatal stabbing 2023 10 stabbings no fatal stabbings
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Here are the stats for previous years.
Stabbings by year:
2017 12 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2018 7 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2019 18 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2022 7 stabbings including one fatal stabbing 2023 10 stabbings no fatal stabbings
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Only last year, Sadiq Khan was still calling it "the Notting Hill Carnival". Is the new pretentious naming part of a deliberate strategy to defend against calls to cancel it?
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
Here are the stats for previous years.
Stabbings by year:
2017 12 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2018 7 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2019 18 stabbings no fatal stabbings 2022 7 stabbings including one fatal stabbing 2023 10 stabbings no fatal stabbings
It's really quite concerning. I don't think I'll be able to celebrate Christmas anymore as I just found out that sometimes crimes occur on Christmas Day.
With reference to resurrections of bands that were once a big deal in some bygone era of yesteryear, when can we expect the Milli Vanilli comeback tour . . . with improved AI-generated fake vocals?
IMHO, trying to recapture one's lost (and clearly misspent) youth by buying over-priced, over-hyped concert tickets, is likely to be a effective as trying to squeeze oneself into the jeans you wore 30 years ago.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
I think that's really harsh.
I've known plenty of mature and intelligent fourteen year olds.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Who better to comment on demeaning the office of MP than the person who served her constituents by eating kangaroo bollocks in the jungle
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Who better to comment on demeaning the office of MP than the person who served her constituents by eating kangaroo bollocks in the jungle
I get politicians love to seize an opportunity to undermine an opponent, and I even get that sometimes they rely on the public being forgetful of things they may have said or done in the past when they do so, but quite often it seems as though they genuinely have no recollection of their own previous words or actions which would reveal a hypocritical statement.
With reference to resurrections of bands that were once a big deal in some bygone era of yesteryear, when can we expect the Milli Vanilli comeback tour . . . with improved AI-generated fake vocals?
IMHO, trying to recapture one's lost (and clearly misspent) youth by buying over-priced, over-hyped concert tickets, is likely to be a effective as trying to squeeze oneself into the jeans you wore 30 years ago.
It's the performers who are struggling to fit into 30 year old jeans. They are their own tribute bands.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Joke (of course) but since you ask, the UK wins as its current position, upheld by the SC, who got it wrong, is that it's OK to say 'Bangladesh can have her so we needn't even though she is a UK subject' and this position is shameful and pitiful, and makes us look like lawless barbarians with contempt for our obligations.
It's really quite concerning. I don't think I'll be able to celebrate Christmas anymore as I just found out that sometimes crimes occur on Christmas Day.
Tempted to say I wouldn't be seen dead at the Notting Hill Carnival, but that would be tasteless.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Joke (of course) but since you ask, the UK wins as its current position, upheld by the SC, who got it wrong, is that it's OK to say 'Bangladesh can have her so we needn't even though she is a UK subject' and this position is shameful and pitiful, and makes us look like lawless barbarians with contempt for our obligations.
I'm fine with people making the moral argument, so long as they do not conflate with that of the legal arguments (the law can be an ass after all), which several of the lawyers up to this point were doing, clearly to poor effect. Whether there should be the power to do what was done is a far more interesting question than whether the power exists and whether it was lawfully applied in this case (the answer to which is apparently yes).
But I doubt the government will be eager to start restricting its powers in this area, regardless of any future stance on this case.
A Labour MP has said he is "shocked" and "profoundly sorry" after it was revealed flats he rents out had black mould and ant infestations.
Jas Athwal, who became the MP for Ilford South in July, said his tenants had been "let down", and pledged that repairs and maintenance work would be completed "swiftly".
He also said he had not previously been aware of the problems by highlighted in a BBC report due to the properties being managed by an agency.
Paul Canal, Conservative leader for Redbridge Council, in north-east London, called for Mr Athwal to resign as a councillor "immediately", describing the conditions of properties owned by Mr Athwal as a "disgrace".
"His role as a councillor is untenable," Mr Canal said.
He said he had called for Redbridge Council to investigate whether Mr Athwal had breached its code of conduct, echoing a similar call made by Andrew Boff, a Conservative member of the London Assembly.
Mr Athwal owns 15 properties, making him the biggest landlord in the House of Commons. The BBC found flats owned by him contained dirty communal areas, lights that did not work and fire alarms hanging loose from the ceiling.
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The Labour MP also admitted that his flats did not have the correct property licences under a scheme he introduced as the leader of Redbridge Council.
The Labour MP has served his purpose which was to replace lefty Sam Tarry MP who was kicked out by Keir Starmer for having an opinion and being besties with Angela Rayner.
Wasn't he also a hardcore Corbynite? Can't have helped his case for selection in the new era (as I understand it there was a lot of bad blood about him winning out over Athwal in the first place).
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
Thankfully that decision is not in their gift.
Apparently, actual witness to her crimes aren’t good witnesses. Because they might be a bit biased against ISIS….
And charging her with War Crimes would be naughty or something.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
Thankfully that decision is not in their gift.
Apparently, actual witness to her crimes aren’t good witnesses. Because they might be a bit biased against ISIS….
And charging her with War Crimes would be naughty or something.
Is it really true they want to bring her back and NOT put her on trial?
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
Plenty of Tories have done a lot of reflection, they're just not reflections that align with your views.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
Thankfully that decision is not in their gift.
Apparently, actual witness to her crimes aren’t good witnesses. Because they might be a bit biased against ISIS….
And charging her with War Crimes would be naughty or something.
Is it really true they want to bring her back and NOT put her on trial?
That’s absolutely stupefying
Yup.
See the crop of 50s & 60s French lawyers who made a specialty of defending Vichy officials.
And before someone say “cab rank” the same lawyers refused to represent Jews and Resistance members in bringing charges against Vichy officials.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Well, she does. I imagine a prison cell at Downview would be paradise compared to a refugee camp in Syria/Turkey/Lebannon/Iraq.
The people working to return her to the U.K. are quite clear that they will fight any attempt to try her.
Thankfully that decision is not in their gift.
Apparently, actual witness to her crimes aren’t good witnesses. Because they might be a bit biased against ISIS….
And charging her with War Crimes would be naughty or something.
Tbf, the job of a lawyer is to try and get their client off, or failing that, to mitigate the sentence as much as possible, within the bounds of the law (which is where Womble Bond Dickinson and Rudy Giuliani have gone more than a little bit wrong recently).
That doesn't mean they will succeed.
I remember Rose West's lawyer trying to argue the case against his client was weak and circumstantial in the aftermath of Fred West's suicide. Neither the judge nor the jury agreed with him, and she's still sitting in prison.
On a piece of good news wrt rentals - the 10 year Fire Angel CO alarm I ordered whilst commenting last night just arrived from Amazon.
£21.00 delivered. £1.75 per annum to protect a family in case the newly installed replacement boiler has a problem. The basic stuff is cheap, and not difficult.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
Plenty of Tories have done a lot of reflection, they're just not reflections that align with your views.
For Nad I think she's just mad that she is Nadine Dorries XMP, rather than Nadine Dorries XMP, Baroness of Bedfordshire.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
(Cynical comments below, but I was quite impressed - he came across as grounded and reflective about his future.)
Quite an unusual guy, Steve Baker. Talks well, clearly has integrity, yet there's a sense of something awry there. I can imagine him doing lots of good deeds and then every so often making a truly enormous error of judgment.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
(Cynical comments below, but I was quite impressed - he came across as grounded and reflective about his future.)
Quite an unusual guy, Steve Baker. Talks well, clearly has integrity, yet there's a sense of something awry there. I can imagine him doing lots of good deeds and then every so often making a truly enormous error of judgment.
Someone I might enjoy having an argument with over a pub lunch. I think he could develop very interestingly if exposed to different environments that challenge his assumptions.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
They have already run out of money, but the Tories had too. The bond markets really are in the long told bank manager position whereby they've lent so much that it's their problem. Even in the 1980s there were suggestions that the US should default on its debt simply as the most economically sound path. Now, it's sort of nuts that the US isn't just defaulting. The UK is in a much weaker position, but I'd not be at all surprised if defaulting made some sense.
Unfortunately, what all nations need to do is print some money, use it to pay off much of their bond debt, and hide under the bedsheets for a while.
(You very definitely don't want to pay off all debt though, as an efficient bond market in your debt is a really good thing)
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
Plenty of Tories have done a lot of reflection, they're just not reflections that align with your views.
For Nad I think she's just mad that she is Nadine Dorries XMP, rather than Nadine Dorries XMP, Baroness of Bedfordshire.
Given what it takes (or more accurately doesn’t take) to be ennobled these days, I don't blame her. But I wasn't really defending Dorries or her attack on Rayner, I was just mentioning that a lot of reflection is happening on the Tories' defeat, especially (as one might expect) from the right, which is understandably furious. I suspect that the only 'reflection' that would pass muster to Stuart would be that which ends in a damascene conversion to the cause of centrism and a sincere promise never to stray into naughty right-wingery again.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
At least a 10% chance. The numbers aren't rosy. Same if by some miracle the Cons had got back. In fact Truss had a go at accelerating things. That was pretty close.
Unearthed video: JD Vance attacks women “who can't have kids” because they “passed the biological period when it was possible” as “miserable” people who “have no real value system” and struggle to find “meaning” https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1829920065417785673
"A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."
This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?
Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
And they wonder why people talk about two tier policing - there were more murders at Notting Hill (3 and counting?) than in all the EDL thuggery after Southport (zero). Despite the one with the murders apparently being "largely peaceful" and the other branded as outrageous violence, for which people who were little more than drunken bystanders are getting sent down.
On a piece of good news wrt rentals - the 10 year Fire Angel CO alarm I ordered whilst commenting last night just arrived from Amazon.
£21.00 delivered. £1.75 per annum to protect a family in case the newly installed replacement boiler has a problem. The basic stuff is cheap, and not difficult.
I feel like I am divorcing my own country. It’s quite odd
Much of the rot was there, happening under a series of hapless conservative governments playing games thinking the important decisions were been made by them in Westminster.
But it’s eerily like falling out of love and realising a relationship is over. You go from overly praising to overly criticising. I remember in that divorce movie from decades ago “the wars of the roses” the female character says to her soon-to-be-ex-husband “I now dislike you so much the way you eat makes me want to kill you”
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
You and Shamima Begum need to do a sort of swap. You get a Syrian passport and she gets her old UK one back. Everyone a winner.
Why does anyone win if Shamima Begum returns to the UK?
Joke (of course) but since you ask, the UK wins as its current position, upheld by the SC, who got it wrong, is that it's OK to say 'Bangladesh can have her so we needn't even though she is a UK subject' and this position is shameful and pitiful, and makes us look like lawless barbarians with contempt for our obligations.
I'm fine with people making the moral argument, so long as they do not conflate with that of the legal arguments (the law can be an ass after all), which several of the lawyers up to this point were doing, clearly to poor effect. Whether there should be the power to do what was done is a far more interesting question than whether the power exists and whether it was lawfully applied in this case (the answer to which is apparently yes).
But I doubt the government will be eager to start restricting its powers in this area, regardless of any future stance on this case.
One of the tests for this government is this case. If it is populist and without scruple and mercy it will continue this farce. If it is a grown up government of a civilized nation it will rethink and rescind. None of this should be taken as sympathy for the abominations of ISIS supporters or their fellow travellers.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
They have already run out of money, but the Tories had too. The bond markets really are in the long told bank manager position whereby they've lent so much that it's their problem. Even in the 1980s there were suggestions that the US should default on its debt simply as the most economically sound path. Now, it's sort of nuts that the US isn't just defaulting. The UK is in a much weaker position, but I'd not be at all surprised if defaulting made some sense.
Unfortunately, what all nations need to do is print some money, use it to pay off much of their bond debt, and hide under the bedsheets for a while.
(You very definitely don't want to pay off all debt though, as an efficient bond market in your debt is a really good thing)
Yes it's not all one way. Govts need bond markets and bond markets need Govt bonds. They'd be sat there fiddling their fingers otherwise.
It's really quite concerning. I don't think I'll be able to celebrate Christmas anymore as I just found out that sometimes crimes occur on Christmas Day.
Tempted to say I wouldn't be seen dead at the Notting Hill Carnival, but that would be tasteless.
I have been a few times. It's great fun and with massive crowds always a bit of trouble after dark. Great music, food and vibes, just need to be a bit watchful, like in any heaving crowd in an edgy major city.
On a piece of good news wrt rentals - the 10 year Fire Angel CO alarm I ordered whilst commenting last night just arrived from Amazon.
£21.00 delivered. £1.75 per annum to protect a family in case the newly installed replacement boiler has a problem. The basic stuff is cheap, and not difficult.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
It has been theorised that Larry Fink of Black Rock (an entity that owns shares in every single FTSE 100 campany) decided to hammer UK bonds till the Truss Government fell. I have no evidence for that, and it may or may not be true, but nevertheless, the idea of 'the markets' as impartial measuring automatons that flick to 'bad egg' when they see a damaging fiscal event is extremely gauche. Markets consist of powerful institutions and people with political aims, not just a shoal of small investors.
That's why I have a hunch you'll find the bond markets a lot, lot kinder to Reeves' overspending than they were to Truss' tax cuts. Even if the projected net result of the former is worse than the projected net result of the former.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
At least a 10% chance. The numbers aren't rosy. Same if by some miracle the Cons had got back. In fact Truss had a go at accelerating things. That was pretty close.
At some point the policy of reducing debt as a % of GDP in the fifth year from 'now' ('now' going forward 12 months every year, ie, never, I am not making this up) by continuing to borrow an additional £100bn+ per annum and of course not paying any of it back will come home to roost. (USA might take longer, but it must happen one day).
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
It has been theorised that Larry Fink of Black Rock (an entity that owns shares in every single FTSE 100 campany) decided to hammer UK bonds till the Truss Government fell. I have no evidence for that, and it may or may not be true, but nevertheless, the idea of 'the markets' as impartial measuring automatons that flick to 'bad egg' when they see a damaging fiscal event is extremely gauche. Markets consist of powerful institutions and people with political aims, not just a shoal of small investors.
That's why I have a hunch you'll find the bond markets a lot, lot kinder to Reeves' overspending than they were to Truss' tax cuts. Even if the projected net result of the former is worse than the projected net result of the former.
TRUSS was clearly wronged.
Can she return?
There are many who think she has unfinished business.
Speaking of which, Mad Nad's been trending on TwiX.
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future. https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
Does that absolute fucking hunt not remember she supported Johnson after all his criminal parties in lockdown?
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
That's the point.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
(Cynical comments below, but I was quite impressed - he came across as grounded and reflective about his future.)
Quite an unusual guy, Steve Baker. Talks well, clearly has integrity, yet there's a sense of something awry there. I can imagine him doing lots of good deeds and then every so often making a truly enormous error of judgment.
Someone I might enjoy having an argument with over a pub lunch. I think he could develop very interestingly if exposed to different environments that challenge his assumptions.
He is the only Tory MP (now ex of course) I have listened to who understood what were the leadership qualities the new Tory leader would need. This is an almost unconsidered matter but is crucial.
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
Er, you're straying into politics, I think?
I believe there is a non-trivial chance this Labour government will run out of money and face a bond-market crisis
At least a 10% chance. The numbers aren't rosy. Same if by some miracle the Cons had got back. In fact Truss had a go at accelerating things. That was pretty close.
At some point the policy of reducing debt as a % of GDP in the fifth year from 'now' ('now' going forward 12 months every year, ie, never, I am not making this up) by continuing to borrow an additional £100bn+ per annum and of course not paying any of it back will come home to roost. (USA might take longer, but it must happen one day).
Yes I'm a little bit Trad on this matter of national debt. I'd like to see it coming down. I believe in tax and spend not borrow and spend.
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PS: but thanks everyone for trying their best, within the constraints of the software. Much appreciated.
The gangs go there for a day off. To take a break.
This works as well as Montagues and Capulettes at the same petrol station.
https://youtu.be/SEzskNtFnIY?si=RF58UgQPqY2qkqBC
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/12422/a-new-era-for-pb-politicalbetting-com/p2
200 as against Dravid's 210.
I think the new commissioner is making things better too, although again he could and should be doing better. As a Cambridge mathematician I'd rather expected him to fix it in a week. Kats though, so maybe two weeks.
In the otherwise undistinguished sitcom The Thin Blue Line, Inspector Fowler talks about how a match against Arsenal will be jointly policed in case of trouble by his squad and the Met. He paused and said crossly, 'and a very stupid bunch of ill-mannered louts they are! I anticipate quite appalling behaviour!'
Constable: 'I think that's unfair sir. Most supporters are genuine fans there to watch the match, not cause trouble.'
Fowler: 'I wasn't talking about the fans, I was talking about the Metropolitan Police.'
It seems that the authorities can manage to do that when they wish to.
A Labour MP has said he is "shocked" and "profoundly sorry" after it was revealed flats he rents out had black mould and ant infestations.
Jas Athwal, who became the MP for Ilford South in July, said his tenants had been "let down", and pledged that repairs and maintenance work would be completed "swiftly".
He also said he had not previously been aware of the problems by highlighted in a BBC report due to the properties being managed by an agency.
Paul Canal, Conservative leader for Redbridge Council, in north-east London, called for Mr Athwal to resign as a councillor "immediately", describing the conditions of properties owned by Mr Athwal as a "disgrace".
"His role as a councillor is untenable," Mr Canal said.
He said he had called for Redbridge Council to investigate whether Mr Athwal had breached its code of conduct, echoing a similar call made by Andrew Boff, a Conservative member of the London Assembly.
Mr Athwal owns 15 properties, making him the biggest landlord in the House of Commons. The BBC found flats owned by him contained dirty communal areas, lights that did not work and fire alarms hanging loose from the ceiling.
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The Labour MP also admitted that his flats did not have the correct property licences under a scheme he introduced as the leader of Redbridge Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qgd4q49gvo
The way Britain eats makes me want to kill Britain. This is an overreaction. Me and the UK have had a kind of trial separation and I’m generally happier away from the marital home so it’s likely time to make it permanent
So I tend to read the politicalbetting.com home link and then click on the individual deep link form the 1st comment (which is on the comment timestamp) to drop me straight into Vanilla.
I like that Vanilla drops me back in at the point I left if I am spelunking through the comments.
https://x.com/yvettecoopermp/status/1829913511155077595
Stabbings by year:
2017 12 stabbings no fatal stabbings
2018 7 stabbings no fatal stabbings
2019 18 stabbings no fatal stabbings
2022 7 stabbings including one fatal stabbing
2023 10 stabbings no fatal stabbings
https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2023/november-2023/notting-hill-carnival-data/
Might be more fun
How ill-judged of Angela Rayner..utterly adolescent of her – to have thought it was a good idea to party like it's 1999..she's the deputy prime minister..after Labour's announcements..many fear for the future.
https://x.com/NadineDorries/status/1829797767754952892
Other TwiXers keep mentioning IACGMOOH 2012 for some reason, along with Nad's year-long Commons silence after the peerage that never was.
https://x.com/MayorofLondon/status/1682013815519555584
Ouch. Vindictive, accurate and deeply funny. "Clipboard warrior".
What a piece of shit she is. Utterly without redeeming features. A stupider version of Donald Trump Jr.
Off weap is Offensive Weapon. Not sure on P&B - pointed and bladed perhaps? Or possession & something?
Quite a number of violent crimes
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Total: 308
Assault Police 57
Robbery 2
Criminal Damage 2
Drink drug drive 4
Theft Person 3
Public order 24
Off weap P&B 71
Theft Going Equipped 3
Drugs 59
Sexual Offences 20
GBH 9
ABH Common Assault 9
Psychoactive drugs 2
Other 43
IMHO, trying to recapture one's lost (and clearly misspent) youth by buying over-priced, over-hyped concert tickets, is likely to be a effective as trying to squeeze oneself into the jeans you wore 30 years ago.
Boris (aaah) was criticised for parties, so anyone else who has fun ever again is a raging hypocrite and Boris should be returned to his rightful place in Downing Street.
Basically, every fourteen year old who has ever complained to an adult about why they aren't telling X off.
Apart from Rishi, Jeremy and Kwasi, have any prominent Conservatives done any reflection at all on why the did so badly?
I've known plenty of mature and intelligent fourteen year olds.
https://bsky.app/profile/parodypm.bsky.social/post/3l2zh3ahcm42r
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrBV1JOd0Y
(Cynical comments below, but I was quite impressed - he came across as grounded and reflective about his future.)
*stares at horizon, thoughtfully*
But I doubt the government will be eager to start restricting its powers in this area, regardless of any future stance on this case.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13794959/Record-numbers-migrants-living-Britain-jobless.html
Pointless pointless waste of money and the government seems unable to stop spending this and the bills are going up - likewise our taxes
I really don’t mind paying a lot of tax to support hardworking Brits who get sick or those who’ve fallen on tough times. That’s fair
But this???? What sane person agrees to spend their tax on this?
And charging her with War Crimes would be naughty or something.
That’s absolutely stupefying
See the crop of 50s & 60s French lawyers who made a specialty of defending Vichy officials.
And before someone say “cab rank” the same lawyers refused to represent Jews and Resistance members in bringing charges against Vichy officials.
That doesn't mean they will succeed.
I remember Rose West's lawyer trying to argue the case against his client was weak and circumstantial in the aftermath of Fred West's suicide. Neither the judge nor the jury agreed with him, and she's still sitting in prison.
£21.00 delivered. £1.75 per annum to protect a family in case the newly installed replacement boiler has a problem. The basic stuff is cheap, and not difficult.
https://x.com/notcapnamerica/status/1829642670056370304
I don’t know who he is but why did he look like he was about to cry?
Unfortunately, what all nations need to do is print some money, use it to pay off much of their bond debt, and hide under the bedsheets for a while.
(You very definitely don't want to pay off all debt though, as an efficient bond market in your debt is a really good thing)
Unearthed video: JD Vance attacks women “who can't have kids” because they “passed the biological period when it was possible” as “miserable” people who “have no real value system” and struggle to find “meaning”
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1829920065417785673
https://www.redpoints.com/blog/amazon-commingled-inventory-management/
Much as Iove Amazon, that's one thing I'd buy in person. Also laptop chargers and other power leads.
That's why I have a hunch you'll find the bond markets a lot, lot kinder to Reeves' overspending than they were to Truss' tax cuts. Even if the projected net result of the former is worse than the projected net result of the former.
Can she return?
There are many who think she has unfinished business.
Interesting.