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A New Era For PB! – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,047
edited August 31 in General
A New Era For PB! – politicalbetting.com

In the next 30 minutes or so, Politicalbetting is going to transition from Vanilla Forums for comments Commento.io.

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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,228
    First.

    And, in a way, last.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,057
    Forward to our glorious new future!
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,544
    So like electing Starmer, except Commento doesn't have five years before it has to be popular?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    I see you shiver in......anticipation.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517
    Whilst waiting for Ticketmaster I realised we are going to have to rightly cancel Neil Gaiman.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    Root seems to determined to prove he can score a century at the same rate as Gus Atkinson.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 2,944
    rcs1000 said:

    First.

    And, in a way, last.

    Do we have to do anything or will the change be transparent?

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,228
    AnneJGP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    First.

    And, in a way, last.

    Do we have to do anything or will the change be transparent?

    The change has been delayed, due to it being harder than I thought it would be.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    You could just get ChatGPT to generate the site directly and cut out the need for PBers?
    Is that an admission? :smile:
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,084
    rcs1000 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    First.

    And, in a way, last.

    Do we have to do anything or will the change be transparent?

    The change has been delayed, due to it being harder than I thought it would be.
    Where's the peer-reviewed upgrade plan? When does the Change Approval Board meet?

    To quote me: Never do anything for the first time!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Chat GPT is shite, who knew?
    There’s one who claims otherwise, but he may be Leon about it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517

    rcs1000 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    First.

    And, in a way, last.

    Do we have to do anything or will the change be transparent?

    The change has been delayed, due to it being harder than I thought it would be.
    Where's the peer-reviewed upgrade plan? When does the Change Approval Board meet?

    To quote me: Never do anything for the first time!
    We met on WhatsApp earlier.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,069

    Disgraceful

    There is no sign of reports being done on the effects on the environment, equality etc from the impact of the change. No planning enquiry. No sign of a proper tender document,

    No scoping exercise; where was the statutory consultation; what about safeguarding implications, H and S, changes to risk register, child protection and animal welfare issues; are these all overlooked here too?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,462
    edited August 31
    Good luck. Let's hope it goes well, as I don't like this current thread ordering.

    Oh, and thanks. How long have we been on Vanilla for? Twelve years?

    Edit: and then I read the thread... :(
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517

    Good luck. Let's hope it goes well, as I don't like this current thread ordering.

    Oh, and thanks. How long have we been on Vanilla for? Twelve years?

    Eleven and a half years.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,574
    Goodbye vanilla!
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,550
    The backwards display is a nuisance but this is politicalbetting.com which is all about predicting the future so it should be possible for everybody to think about what will be said next and post their comments in reverse order.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,462

    Good luck. Let's hope it goes well, as I don't like this current thread ordering.

    Oh, and thanks. How long have we been on Vanilla for? Twelve years?

    Eleven and a half years.
    Thanks. So my guess wasn't too bad then.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,574
    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Welcome back, vanilla!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    RobD said:

    Goodbye vanilla!

    Too soon. It gave you a raspberry and carried on without a ripple.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,440
    Are our post counts going to be reset ?
  • ....and my witty comment disappears into the ether....
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327

    The backwards display is a nuisance but this is politicalbetting.com which is all about predicting the future so it should be possible for everybody to think about what will be said next and post their comments in reverse order.

    Or should I have flagged that? Damn.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517
    Atkinson has been caught at third man after attempting a reverse pull.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627

    Atkinson has been caught at third man after attempting a reverse pull.

    I think the WAGs need to have a talk with them about this pulling habit.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    edited August 31

    Atkinson has been caught at third man after attempting a reverse pull.

    Presumably England will declare if and when Root gets his second hundred of the game. But this is really pointless. 450 runs ahead already.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    If Root makes a hundred here, he’ll surpass Graham Gooch for most runs at Lord’s.

    He won’t, but it’s still an impressive record.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,358
    edited August 31
    The previous system was Disqus IIRC, before Vanilla.

    The problem with Disqus was the way it enclosed comments. Difficult to open and read without getting confused.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    Tail of a diplodocus…
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,516
    rcs1000 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    First.

    And, in a way, last.

    Do we have to do anything or will the change be transparent?

    The change has been delayed, due to it being harder than I thought it would be.
    Sympathies.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    ydoethur said:

    If Root makes a hundred here, he’ll surpass Graham Gooch for most runs at Lord’s.

    He won’t, but it’s still an impressive record.

    He's in danger of running out of partners here. Which would be a shame.
  • ydoethur said:

    Am I the only person who actually likes Vanilla?

    I mean, it’s not perfect but it’s fairly straightforward and does what most people want it to.

    If you struggle with comments in comment order, just scroll to the foot of the page, surely?

    The back end, vf.politicalbetting.com works pretty well for me. Comments have always been ordered old-to-new, so I guess I've got used to it and it doesn't bother me much. It's a bit frustrating that it obscures the header, though.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,019

    Atkinson has been caught at third man after attempting a reverse pull.

    Sometimes you've just got to go with it
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,358
    One good thing about having the comments backwards is it encourages to read more of the comments as you scroll down.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,571
    So not a new era for PB...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,462
    ydoethur said:

    Am I the only person who actually likes Vanilla?

    I mean, it’s not perfect but it’s fairly straightforward and does what most people want it to.

    If you struggle with comments in comment order, just scroll to the foot of the page, surely?

    Then you have to click 'More comments', scroll to the bottom, click 'More comments' etc, etc. At least through the Vanilla interface they're paged, which makes things a little quicker. Although latest-first is God's way of ordering. LIFO is God; FIFO is satan. ;)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,139
    I just prompted ChatGPT: please write me a histrionic comment about Aliens and AI in the style of Sean Thomas to post on politicalbetting.com discussion site
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,139
    Hmm. I'd say it's GCSE Grade-C level rather than anything better:

    Oh, the irony! Here we stand at the precipice of history, distracted by petty politics while the true power brokers—AI and aliens—conspire in the shadows! Wake up, people! The AI overlords aren’t just managing your emails; they’re scheming to rewrite the very fabric of society! And as if that weren’t enough, our so-called leaders are too busy bickering over poll numbers to notice that we might be on the verge of first contact. Or, perhaps, they already have noticed and are keeping it hush-hush! I wouldn’t be surprised if half the cabinet were extraterrestrial hybrids at this point!

    We are living in a sci-fi thriller, and most of you are still reading it like a sitcom! When the history books are written—assuming the AI let us write them—future generations will wonder how we allowed ourselves to be so distracted. But I guess that’s what happens when the real decisions are made in smoke-filled rooms on the dark side of the moon! So, go ahead, keep betting on the next election while the rest of us are betting on which species will be running the show in a decade.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,358
    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,470
    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,516
    ydoethur said:

    Am I the only person who actually likes Vanilla?

    I mean, it’s not perfect but it’s fairly straightforward and does what most people want it to.

    If you struggle with comments in comment order, just scroll to the foot of the page, surely?

    Yeah that isn't the issue for me. Both on my PC and phone I have to reload the comments after so many so if there are 1000 comments it takes me umpteen reloads and ages to get to the latest comment. I would rather not move and have to learn new stuff, but it now takes me ages just to see the new comments each time, unless we limit each thread to 100 comments.

    Oh and on the last thread @rsc1000 autocorrect or bad typing changed the word 'near' to 'need'. So a request asking you whether you were near a solution came out a bit like a command from me demanding you implement one tout de suite - Sorry.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,228

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    Looking at it now.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,516
    edited August 31

    Hmm. I'd say it's GCSE Grade-C level rather than anything better:

    Oh, the irony! Here we stand at the precipice of history, distracted by petty politics while the true power brokers—AI and aliens—conspire in the shadows! Wake up, people! The AI overlords aren’t just managing your emails; they’re scheming to rewrite the very fabric of society! And as if that weren’t enough, our so-called leaders are too busy bickering over poll numbers to notice that we might be on the verge of first contact. Or, perhaps, they already have noticed and are keeping it hush-hush! I wouldn’t be surprised if half the cabinet were extraterrestrial hybrids at this point!

    We are living in a sci-fi thriller, and most of you are still reading it like a sitcom! When the history books are written—assuming the AI let us write them—future generations will wonder how we allowed ourselves to be so distracted. But I guess that’s what happens when the real decisions are made in smoke-filled rooms on the dark side of the moon! So, go ahead, keep betting on the next election while the rest of us are betting on which species will be running the show in a decade.

    I don't know whether you really did use ChatGP or whether you did that yourself @Casino_Royale, whichever it is brilliant and definitely not Grade C.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,384
    Pulpstar said:

    Are our post counts going to be reset ?

    If the move does actually take effect, I might delete my Vanilla account and all my posts.
    I am considering standing for election to council, to win, in 2027 and I wouldn't want any embarrassing posts to come to light. Though making opposing parties' interns spend hours trawling through my wibble here also appeals.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,228

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    It doesn't support "flat" comments. I.e. replies are all nested and you lose the flowing conversations we have on here.

    On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to ignore tedious commentators.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    It doesn't support "flat" comments. I.e. replies are all nested and you lose the flowing conversations we have on here.

    On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to ignore tedious commentators.
    Ooh, don't like the sound of that....
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,258
    Andy_JS said:

    One good thing about having the comments backwards is it encourages to read more of the comments as you scroll down.

    Yep. It forces you to read the room before opening your mouth. This makes it less likely you'll say things that embarrass yourself or others.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,139
    kjh said:

    Hmm. I'd say it's GCSE Grade-C level rather than anything better:

    Oh, the irony! Here we stand at the precipice of history, distracted by petty politics while the true power brokers—AI and aliens—conspire in the shadows! Wake up, people! The AI overlords aren’t just managing your emails; they’re scheming to rewrite the very fabric of society! And as if that weren’t enough, our so-called leaders are too busy bickering over poll numbers to notice that we might be on the verge of first contact. Or, perhaps, they already have noticed and are keeping it hush-hush! I wouldn’t be surprised if half the cabinet were extraterrestrial hybrids at this point!

    We are living in a sci-fi thriller, and most of you are still reading it like a sitcom! When the history books are written—assuming the AI let us write them—future generations will wonder how we allowed ourselves to be so distracted. But I guess that’s what happens when the real decisions are made in smoke-filled rooms on the dark side of the moon! So, go ahead, keep betting on the next election while the rest of us are betting on which species will be running the show in a decade.

    I don't know whether you really did use ChatGP or whether you did that yourself @Casino_Royale, whichever it is brilliant and definitely not Grade C.
    ChatGPT, I'm afraid! But, thank you.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,533
    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    It's a fair bet that whatever chatgpt said was a load of bollocks.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,533
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    One good thing about having the comments backwards is it encourages to read more of the comments as you scroll down.

    Yep. It forces you to read the room before opening your mouth. This makes it less likely you'll say things that embarrass yourself or others.
    I'll have you know I can embarrass myself despite extensive preparation.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517
    edited August 31
    Lads from Dore at the 🐐
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627

    Lads from Dore at the 🐐

    I’ve still got it…
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,446
    kjh said:

    ydoethur said:

    Am I the only person who actually likes Vanilla?

    I mean, it’s not perfect but it’s fairly straightforward and does what most people want it to.

    If you struggle with comments in comment order, just scroll to the foot of the page, surely?

    Yeah that isn't the issue for me. Both on my PC and phone I have to reload the comments after so many so if there are 1000 comments it takes me umpteen reloads and ages to get to the latest comment. I would rather not move and have to learn new stuff, but it now takes me ages just to see the new comments each time, unless we limit each thread to 100 comments.

    Oh and on the last thread @rsc1000 autocorrect or bad typing changed the word 'near' to 'need'. So a request asking you whether you were near a solution came out a bit like a command from me demanding you implement one tout de suite - Sorry.
    Try
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/12422/a-new-era-for-pb-politicalbetting-com#latest
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,327
    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Are our post counts going to be reset ?

    If the move does actually take effect, I might delete my Vanilla account and all my posts.
    I am considering standing for election to council, to win, in 2027 and I wouldn't want any embarrassing posts to come to light. Though making opposing parties' interns spend hours trawling through my wibble here also appeals.
    Oooh, I like your strategy, especially if you're not actually standing for election. Clever way to waste your potential opponents time/resources.

    Although, in fairness, surely this is a job for AI?

    "Summarise the most embarrassing posts by No_Offence_Alan on politicalbetting.com that I can weaponise against him, during the election campaign"

    It's all a bit shitty, really, isn't it?

    Anyway, in seriousness, go for it. Stand for election, @No_Offence_Alan

    I'm not saying I'd vote for you, but your historic posts on this site wouldn't sway me, if you were standing in my area.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    edited August 31
    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    At the fall of the next wicket it’s tea so there’s no point declaring;

    Their batting lineup could do with knowing there are runs in the bank;

    An inexperienced bowling attack could do with knowing that too;

    It makes Sri Lanka hot and bothered and makes recovery for the final test that bit harder;

    There are still two days left and England don’t want to lose ticket money from tomorrow at least.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517
    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,019
    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)
    Graham Gooch and Michael Vaughan (most centuries at Lord’s)

    With the same shot…

    He was hitting the balls faster than a cannonball
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815

    More importantly.

    I has tickets to Oasis at Wembley Stadium next July.

    The whole process was utter Brexit though.

    About a two hour wait to buy the tickets then 90 mins between the money showing up on my credit card and getting the confirmation email.

    I signed up for a giggle. I am 305000th in a queue for a 75000 seat stadium. Science is powerless to explain this.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517
    edited August 31
    mercator said:

    More importantly.

    I has tickets to Oasis at Wembley Stadium next July.

    The whole process was utter Brexit though.

    About a two hour wait to buy the tickets then 90 mins between the money showing up on my credit card and getting the confirmation email.

    I signed up for a giggle. I am 305000th in a queue for a 75000 seat stadium. Science is powerless to explain this.
    There are four gigs at Wembley, and Wembley is a circa 90,000 seat stadium, so you might get a ticket.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,279

    Pulpstar said:

    Are our post counts going to be reset ?

    If the move does actually take effect, I might delete my Vanilla account and all my posts.
    I am considering standing for election to council, to win, in 2027 and I wouldn't want any embarrassing posts to come to light. Though making opposing parties' interns spend hours trawling through my wibble here also appeals.
    This is not in keeping with your name! You'll have to come back as Mild_Offence_Alan or Substantial_Offence_Alan should you fail to be elected...
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,019

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    edited August 31
    CatMan said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
    Indeed, but it’s a sign of your natural enthusiasm. You clearly have a bubbly personality.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,470
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    It doesn't support "flat" comments. I.e. replies are all nested and you lose the flowing conversations we have on here.

    On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to ignore tedious commentators.
    No doubt you've already seen this but just in case:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software

    It lists whether the s/w supports flat comments or not.

  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,091
    edited August 31
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    It doesn't support "flat" comments. I.e. replies are all nested and you lose the flowing conversations we have on here.

    On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to ignore tedious commentators.
    Huh? All the Discourse forums I've used have been linear sequence of replies, like the Vanilla ones. You can quote another user's post, but the behaviour is exactly like the Vanilla one -- your reply goes at the bottom of the topic, with the quoted text quoted.

    (Contrast Usenet, where the conversational structure within a thread is genuinely tree shaped.)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,470
    pm215 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    That didn't work

    Well, that didn't last long.

    Despite what ChatGPT said, Commento did not seem to support non-threaded comments.

    So we're back with Vanilla for now.
    Did you look at https://www.discourse.org/. ??
    It doesn't support "flat" comments. I.e. replies are all nested and you lose the flowing conversations we have on here.

    On the other hand, it makes it a lot easier to ignore tedious commentators.
    Huh? All the Discourse forums I've used have been linear sequence of replies, like the Vanilla ones. You can quote another user's post, but the behaviour is exactly like the Vanilla one -- your reply goes at the bottom of the topic, with the quoted text quoted.

    (Contrast Usenet, where the conversational structure within a thread is genuinely tree shaped.)
    The wiki entry I posted a few minutes ago says that Discourse is flat and not threaded.

    Of course the wiki might be out of date.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,470
    It's Labor Day weekend kids!

    Traditionally the date when US voters finally switch on properly to the election campaign.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,544
    CatMan said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
    I'm sure you can cava niche for your line of punning.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    edited August 31

    CatMan said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
    I'm sure you can cava niche for your line of punning.
    Was that an attempt at a magnum opus?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,650
    A glorious new era! We tried it. Was pants. Went back.

    Like Liz Truss.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815
    ydoethur said:

    CatMan said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
    I'm sure you can cava niche for your line of punning.
    Was that an attempt at a magnum opus?
    If you want a punning contest with money on the table, pet, I'll ante up.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 48,420

    A glorious new era! We tried it. Was pants. Went back.

    Like Liz Truss.

    The lettuce is unwilted…
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    mercator said:

    ydoethur said:

    CatMan said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    What a cast to go past:

    Graham Gooch (most runs at Lord’s)
    Alistair Cook (most centuries for England)

    With the same shot…

    Utterly brilliant from Root but I really cannot work out why England are still batting.
    Rumour is that the MCC will make a loss on this test match if it doesn't go deep into the fourth day.

    I wonder if somebody has had a word.
    Given all the Champagne they sell I'd have thought they were making supernova amounts of money

    (OK that's terrible)
    I'm sure you can cava niche for your line of punning.
    Was that an attempt at a magnum opus?
    If you want a punning contest with money on the table, pet, I'll ante up.
    If I say 'right back at you' is that a pro's echo?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 53,240
    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
    You don't need a carnival for endless police sexual assaults. They're quite capable of doing that at any time.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,866
    This oldest first malarkey is a PITA. Read through the thread and then have to scroll all the way back to the top in order to make a comment.

    The work around is to reply to the last comment in the thread, even if you intend to say something totally unrelated.

    Off topic, I can report that Dr Sunil is not the only PBer to have taken a battery powered train to Headbolt Lane.

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,866
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
    It was the Leeds Caribbean carnival the same weekend. As far as I'm aware, it was a peaceful event where everyone had a good time.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,358

    Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?

    It's easier to get to the latest comments on there because you can choose the page number.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,601

    Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?

    I've only just moved over to it cos it's easier to access the most recent comments following the Vanilla change and I'm ok with it 👍
  • LeonLeon Posts: 53,240

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
    It was the Leeds Caribbean carnival the same weekend. As far as I'm aware, it was a peaceful event where everyone had a good time.
    I don’t know why Notting Hill has got so bleak. But it has. Clearly drugs gangs go there to settle scores and bystanders get in the way. Horrible
  • LeonLeon Posts: 53,240
    Andy_JS said:

    Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?

    It's easier to get to the latest comments on there because you can choose the page number.
    Also with vanilla you can add photos really easily. I don’t understand why anyone would use the other portal
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,574

    Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?

    I use it too. Much easier to read in chronological order.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,574
    RobD said:

    Am I the only deviant who prefers the oldest first vf.politicalbetting.com format?

    I use it too. Much easier to read in chronological order.
    However I do feel guilty about denying ad revenue. We need a donate button.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627
    I wonder if TSE has stopped laughing at that qualifying grid yet?
  • Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
    Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,627

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "A 32-year-old mother and a man who were attacked in separate incidents over the Notting Hill Carnival weekend have died, police said. Cher Maximen, who had been at the carnival last Sunday with her three-year-old daughter, died in hospital on Saturday morning, Met Police Commander Charmain Brenyah confirmed."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70jd57rx8jo

    This is bleak and surely unsustainable. Can you really have a “carnival” where there are multiple murders and other stabbings? And endless police injuried and sexual assaults?

    Its turned into something thoroughly grim. Move it to somewhere it can be better policed. Hyde park
    Met Police: "it was largely peaceful"
    Well, nobody’s going to believe that. The Met are a violent bunch.

    Oh, sorry, you meant the carnival?
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