As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
I was struck by this bit: "He won’t be drawn further, including on whether he suffered side effects — though when I ask later I’m told his usage was for six weeks in autumn 2023."
So it doesn't say when exactly last autumn, but it's fair to assume that getting into better shape was a deliberate step on the path to making a leadership bid. As, of course, was his resignation in December.
Demonstrates that he's been serious about preparing the ground - but then we knew that already, so it's unlikely to move sentiment that much.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
My partner went down to see it last year and absolutely loved it, I somewhat regret not going with her. I would have like to have seen the earlier cast with Jessie Buckley, she performs brilliantly of the soundtrack (and I find her alluring).
For a start he was on license (ie recalled to prison if commits a further offence) from I think a 20 year sentence for drug crime (cocaine smuggling) dating from 2009.
Then he had a leading role in starting the physical police - demonstrator confrontation.
Both will have been taken into account - I really think we want all sentencing remarks to be published for this set of trials.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
As someone who has spent years investigating right-wing extremism, I keep being asked who organised the chaos, as if there is one simple answer.
But the recent disorder is more complex and has laid bare the anarchy of modern right-wing extremism, as well as the extent of its reach.
The truth is that no one organisation owned or organised the riots: they were bigger than that.
This lack of cohesion makes the situation more unpredictable and dangerous. For the authorities, there are so many potential rioters and potential targets, and a lack of obvious national organisations to disrupt.
By contrast, counter-demonstrations by anti-racism campaigners have been far more cohesive and organised.
I can't help that there is a bit of talking your own book here. You make a living by "investigating" the dark, mysterious world of right wing bigots. Turns out there is no master conspiracy after all but small numbers of right wing bigots and various hangers on up for a rumble who would find the organising of sex in a brothel somewhat problematic. So now their "chaotic nature" makes them even more unpredictable and dangerous. Just keep the paycheques coming.
I think that's backwards analysis TBH.
I think we start with "is this accurate" (personally my view is that it is quite accurate), and the established reliability or otherwise of the writer on the subject, and go from there with questions.
"This problem maybe doesn't exist because the writer wants to make money" strikes me as facile - admitted that's perhaps a caricature of your view.
I am not saying it doesn't exist. I am saying that it is not in the interest of the writer to understate it. There are undoubtedly some alienated yobs and racists who will seize any chance to cause trouble because no one listens to them at all when they don't. I think we should try to address at least parts of their concerns. But we should also keep a sense of proportion.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
That's a bit of a model, perhaps, for how the process works in life, insidiously. Start off polished and friendly and tuneful, then before you know it the tune has gradually changed ... aka grooming. It's a similar process to how cults recruit - a key is to have the subject move away from other influences very gradually, and then reject them.
One way to influence / recruit youth was called Project Schoolyard back in the day (say last time the far right was surging). One tactic was to hand out CDs of white power music at the school gate.
From the Scottish Herald piece I linked last week:
IN Scotland, I uncovered that Steve Cartwright had helped bring the concept – first originated in America – called Project Schoolyard to Britain. This saw neo-Nazis handing out white power CDs to children at school gates. This was an important and frightening development. Kids were being groomed. I began filming anything I could related to this, and eventually had enough material to air the documentary Nazi Hate Rock. It got me a Bafta nomination. Let me make clear just how vile white power music is: there’s a song like “Jack-Hammered N****r P***y”, or “Freezer-full of N****r heads”. https://archive.ph/Wh36D#selection-2113.3-2121.141
Personally, my concern is how fuzzy it is at the edges, plus how far overlaps go.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
That's a bit of a model, perhaps, for how the process works in life. Start off polished and friendly and tuneful, then before you know it the tune has changed ... aka grooming.
One way to influence / recruit youth for the was called Project Schoolyard. One tactic was to hand out CDs of white power music at the school gate.
From the Scottish Herald piece I linked last week: IN Scotland, I uncovered that Steve Cartwright had helped bring the concept – first originated in America – called Project Schoolyard to Britain. This saw neo-Nazis handing out white power CDs to children at school gates. This was an important and frightening development. Kids were being groomed. I began filming anything I could related to this, and eventually had enough material to air the documentary Nazi Hate Rock. It got me a Bafta nomination. Let me make clear just how vile white power music is: there’s a song like “Jack-Hammered N****r P***y”, or “Freezer-full of N****r heads”. https://archive.ph/Wh36D#selection-2113.3-2121.141
I haven't watched Cabaret - I'll have to do so.
"Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is a very interesting segment. I always found that quite shocking.
also brilliantly parodied by Spitting Image ahead of the 87 General Election.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
That's a bit of a model, perhaps, for how the process works in life. Start off polished and friendly and tuneful, then before you know it the tune has changed ... aka grooming.
One way to influence / recruit youth for the was called Project Schoolyard. One tactic was to hand out CDs of white power music at the school gate.
From the Scottish Herald piece I linked last week: IN Scotland, I uncovered that Steve Cartwright had helped bring the concept – first originated in America – called Project Schoolyard to Britain. This saw neo-Nazis handing out white power CDs to children at school gates. This was an important and frightening development. Kids were being groomed. I began filming anything I could related to this, and eventually had enough material to air the documentary Nazi Hate Rock. It got me a Bafta nomination. Let me make clear just how vile white power music is: there’s a song like “Jack-Hammered N****r P***y”, or “Freezer-full of N****r heads”. https://archive.ph/Wh36D#selection-2113.3-2121.141
I haven't watched Cabaret - I'll have to do so.
"Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is a very interesting segment. I always found that quite shocking.
also brilliantly parodied by Spitting Image ahead of the 87 General Election.
Its website says the number of snails per crate is kept to a minimum to avoid "cannibalism, group sex and snail orgies".
I cannot help but wonder about what the distinction is between group sex and orgies.
1 in 3 people fantasise about group sex whereas 3 in 1 is group sex.
On the (risky) assumption you are being serious…
Group sex is a singular event with multiple parties
An orgy is multiple co-located events with one of more participants in each
You seem to know a lot about this.
The problem with orgies is that you’re not sure who to thank afterwards.
Especially snails, which are hermaphroditic and impregnate each other at the same time. No girl meets boy in pulmonate playland.
Edit: oh yes, and stab each other with a special dart which they leave behind in the wound.
Sounds like a typical Grindr date.
Oh really? I wouldn't know, the things one learns on PB.
I wrote about my experiences of using Grindr earlier on this year in a thread header.
As a regular user of the Grindr app of many years I didn’t think anything could shock me when it came to that app but the behaviour of William Wragg, the Tory MP for Hazel Grove, has managed to leave me shocked and speechless.
As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
The other one is to mess around with internal reorganisations, renaming departments and shifting responsibilities and people. How many names has the Border Force or whatever had in recent years?
Moving the pieces around the chessboard is just as unlikely to work as making everything more complicated, but it enables people at the top to say "we're on top of this, look how busy we've been". And journalists and other commentators will always confuse activity with achievement because it provides them with a story in the short term, which is what they want.
UUP leadership update: candidates have until 30 August to collect the required nominations (35 signatures from 9 constituency associations)
Robbie Butler MLA, the current deputy leader, has ruled himself out. There's talk of 3 possible candidates, including two previous leaders: Mike Nesbitt MLA, current NI Minister of Health and leader 2012-7; Robin Swann MP and leader 2017-9; and John Stewart MLA, Chief Whip.
Nesbitt's most likely to win it out of that lot, but he's fishing in the same pool of (generally liberal) voters as Beattie was and will face exactly the same problems with the party's officers who would rather see (the socially conservative) Butler as leader.
As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
The other one is to mess around with internal reorganisations, renaming departments and shifting responsibilities and people. How many names has the Border Force or whatever had in recent years?
Moving the pieces around the chessboard is just as unlikely to work as making everything more complicated, but it enables people at the top to say "we're on top of this, look how busy we've been". And journalists and other commentators will always confuse activity with achievement because it provides them with a story in the short term, which is what they want.
It just adds to the.... process.
EDIT: The correct name is the Border Farce. Bit like Twatter.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
That's a bit of a model, perhaps, for how the process works in life. Start off polished and friendly and tuneful, then before you know it the tune has changed ... aka grooming.
One way to influence / recruit youth for the was called Project Schoolyard. One tactic was to hand out CDs of white power music at the school gate.
From the Scottish Herald piece I linked last week: IN Scotland, I uncovered that Steve Cartwright had helped bring the concept – first originated in America – called Project Schoolyard to Britain. This saw neo-Nazis handing out white power CDs to children at school gates. This was an important and frightening development. Kids were being groomed. I began filming anything I could related to this, and eventually had enough material to air the documentary Nazi Hate Rock. It got me a Bafta nomination. Let me make clear just how vile white power music is: there’s a song like “Jack-Hammered N****r P***y”, or “Freezer-full of N****r heads”. https://archive.ph/Wh36D#selection-2113.3-2121.141
I haven't watched Cabaret - I'll have to do so.
"Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is a very interesting segment. I always found that quite shocking.
also brilliantly parodied by Spitting Image ahead of the 87 General Election.
Linked above
Interesting thread on Reddit about how Tomorrow Belongs to Me was appropriated by neo-Nazis as *their* song as far back as the 1970s.
As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
I imagine and hope there's much more to the story than meets the eye, as chanting is not last I checked a crime.
Most of these stories have had more than meets the eye to them.
He admitted to violent disorder and was out on licence from a 20-year sentence for cocaine smuggling.
So, yeah, the headline is completely irresponsible. "67 year old convicted cocaine smuggler jailed after participating in recent riots" would be a lot more accurate, and wouldn't create the impression of a draconian crackdown.
Perhaps those Russian trolls have moved on to writing the BBC headlines as well as flooding X/Twitter?
As part of my "research" (reading and listening to YouTube lectures) on the Blob, may I recommend Prof Abby Innes (Associate Prof, European Institute at LSE) and her book "Late Soviet Britain: Why Materialist Utopias Fail".
The TLDR is that in order to maintain control, the departmental structures that end up being created, whether fully publically owned as in a command economy or contracted out as in a market economy, end up so complex and unwieldy as to perpetually fail, and that both Thatcherites and Stalinists have to take refuge in the same denial of reality and retreat into fantasy to cope with that failure.
Ah, the old Joseph Tainter theory about the Collapse of Complex Societies.
That's one of those theories that lead to smart people losing vast amount of money.
Seems to me the opposite is true. Complex societies are the best and most robust ones to live in.
There is an element of truth that when allowed, organisations react to problems by creating more process. Despite the provable fact that no amount of rigid process will solve all problems.
Having to pay £7 billion in debt interest payments because of all the borrowing racked up by the previous Conservativr Government probably didn't help.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
"I am going to give the last word to Timothy Snyder:
Trump is in the classic dictatorial position: He needs to die in bed holding all executive power to stay out of prison. This means that he will do whatever he can to gain power, and once in power will do all that he can to never let it go. This is a basic incentive structure which underlies everything else. It is entirely inconsistent with democracy."
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
See also my current PB pic.
And Dorothy Parker's one line review: "Me no Leica".
Having to pay £7 billion in debt interest payments because of all the borrowing racked up by the previous Conservativr Government probably didn't help.
Was debt interest higher than expected? The report suggested it was down to higher departmental expenditure instead.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
I don't think this is xenophobic bullshit. Deportations collapsed under the Tories, a mix of underfunding and a deliberate policy of not processing claims. The sensible thing to do is to process claims, some of whom warrant deportation. Remove the people who should be removed as quickly as possible is a sensible approach.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
If you voted Lab you did vote for xenophobic bullshit, they were using it throughout the campaign
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Indeed - Isherwood wrote "Mr Norris Changes Trains" and "Goodbye to Berlin" on which the various films and plays are based. They are outstanding sources for the rise of Hitler and the demi-monde which was Berlin in the 20s and 30s.
He helped push another demonstrator into a police officer which "precipitated a physical confrontation involving the police [and] demonstrators", the prosecutor said.
Some PB posters like to promote the click-bait notion that wallflower "patriots" are being hard done by.
I am no fan of Plod, but when b@stards are lobbing breeze blocks at them, the aforementioned b@stards should go straight to jail without passing Go!
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
I don't think this is xenophobic bullshit. Deportations collapsed under the Tories, a mix of underfunding and a deliberate policy of not processing claims. The sensible thing to do is to process claims, some of whom warrant deportation. Remove the people who should be removed as quickly as possible is a sensible approach.
With a caveat over the Windrush scandal, it's hard to find deporting illegals a bad thing to do. Indeed it's exactly what border security requires.
There's a whiff of corruption around Kennedy, isn't there, both personal and political.
I think youll find that goes back several generations and nobody on the Dem side was that worried.
It is bizarre to me that my parents generation of Democrats venerates the Kennedys. He was a very poor president, a poor human being but being good looking can apparently overcome everything.
Cuban Missile Crisis he did well, Bay of Pigs less so. He also cut taxes and grew the economy and began to move towards more civil rights for African Americans though LBJ did most of the work and created Medicare and Medicaid. JFK also avoided full on involvement in the Vietnam War which clouded LBJ's legacy and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 of course campaigned to end the war in Vietnam and for a negotiated settlement
He gave LBJ a bit of a hospital pass on Vietnam though.
But that's my point about his learning from mistakes in office - and the truncated potential.
A detailed reading of the history very strongly suggests that he'd started to be deeply sceptical about the justification for US policy in Vietnam (and the majority hawkish view of his administration) and it's at least reasonably likely (probable in my view) that he'd have cut US losses, and pulled out, rather than escalating as LBJ did.
Another of the great disappointments of history is that I don't think we'll ever get Robert Caro's full take on that.
No, not looking good for more LBJ from Caro. My dad (91) chases his publisher on it every few months. The reply is always nice but not especially informative.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Indeed - Isherwood wrote "Mr Norris Changes Trains" and "Goodbye to Berlin" on which the various films and plays are based. They are outstanding sources for the rise of Hitler and the demi-monde which was Berlin in the 20s and 30s.
I saw a production at the Old Vic, Bristol, years ago. In the interval, some people were complaining that the actress playing Sally "wasn't as good as Liza Minelli", forgetting that Minelli could have had umpteen takes to achieve her incredible performance.
Some people think Minelli's performance is too good for the part. Sally is performing in a third-rate club and is riddled with doubts as to whether she is good enough for that. Minelli gives a world class performance.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Hopefully we are going back to those heady days when the rule of law meant something. The money wasted on decisions, appeals, further appeals and judicial reviews only to do.....nothing is simply unforgivable. And years later, when they have started families here, we get to do it all again dealing with their article 8 rights acquired because the first order was never actually enforced.
We end up with hundreds of thousands living in a shadowland where they can't get a proper job, decent housing, proper health care, education for their kids, where they are left vulnerable to exploitation because of their status and utterly alienated from a society they wanted to be a part of. Its immoral, its wicked and it creates so many problems for our society.
We need widescale amnesties to deal with the ridiculous backlog and then, yes, when people are found not to be eligible to be here, we need to act and ensure that they go back home. Promptly.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Indeed - Isherwood wrote "Mr Norris Changes Trains" and "Goodbye to Berlin" on which the various films and plays are based. They are outstanding sources for the rise of Hitler and the demi-monde which was Berlin in the 20s and 30s.
I saw a production at the Old Vic, Bristol, years ago. In the interval, some people were complaining that the actress playing Sally "wasn't as good as Liza Minelli", forgetting that Minelli could have had umpteen takes to achieve her incredible performance.
Some people think Minelli's performance is too good for the part. Sally is performing in a third-rate club and is riddled with doubts as to whether she is good enough for that. Minelli gives a world class performance.
There was a very good revival at Curve in Leicester recently.
Very pertinent in these days of gender and culture wars.
The beer garden scene is possibly the creepiest scene in musical history.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Hopefully we are going back to those heady days when the rule of law meant something. The money wasted on decisions, appeals, further appeals and judicial reviews only to do.....nothing is simply unforgivable. And years later, when they have started families here, we get to do it all again dealing with their article 8 rights acquired because the first order was never actually enforced.
We end up with hundreds of thousands living in a shadowland where they can't get a proper job, decent housing, proper health care, education for their kids, where they are left vulnerable to exploitation because of their status and utterly alienated from a society they wanted to be a part of. Its immoral, its wicked and it creates so many problems for our society.
We need widescale amnesties to deal with the ridiculous backlog and then, yes, when people are found not to be eligible to be here, we need to act and ensure that they go back home. Promptly.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
It seems like bad politics because it won't win any support from the Farage gang, and will annoy left-of-centre voters.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
My partner went down to see it last year and absolutely loved it, I somewhat regret not going with her. I would have like to have seen the earlier cast with Jessie Buckley, she performs brilliantly of the soundtrack (and I find her alluring).
I saw it when it opened in London. A wonderful show with real impact. There’s a moment in the show when the swastika is first revealed, when I swear everyone in the theatre took a sharp breath and felt real shock: even those of us who’ve seen many versions over the years. That plus the handling of “if you could see her through my eyes” are genius.
There's a whiff of corruption around Kennedy, isn't there, both personal and political.
I think youll find that goes back several generations and nobody on the Dem side was that worried.
It is bizarre to me that my parents generation of Democrats venerates the Kennedys. He was a very poor president, a poor human being but being good looking can apparently overcome everything.
Cuban Missile Crisis he did well, Bay of Pigs less so. He also cut taxes and grew the economy and began to move towards more civil rights for African Americans though LBJ did most of the work and created Medicare and Medicaid. JFK also avoided full on involvement in the Vietnam War which clouded LBJ's legacy and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 of course campaigned to end the war in Vietnam and for a negotiated settlement
He gave LBJ a bit of a hospital pass on Vietnam though.
But that's my point about his learning from mistakes in office - and the truncated potential.
A detailed reading of the history very strongly suggests that he'd started to be deeply sceptical about the justification for US policy in Vietnam (and the majority hawkish view of his administration) and it's at least reasonably likely (probable in my view) that he'd have cut US losses, and pulled out, rather than escalating as LBJ did.
Another of the great disappointments of history is that I don't think we'll ever get Robert Caro's full take on that.
No, not looking good for more LBJ from Caro. My dad (91) chases his publisher on it every few months. The reply is always nice but not especially informative.
We've yet to have a truly comprehensive, dispassionate history of Vietnam. There are many great accounts, but the best of them are by those who were too involved to give more than a partial view. And the sources so copious that it would be the work of a lifetime, for another Caro.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
It seems like bad politics because it won't win any support from the Farage gang, and will annoy left-of-centre voters.
Mabe it is simply the right thing to do, and I think opinions in migrant communities about illegals is not very different to ethnic Britons.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Indeed - Isherwood wrote "Mr Norris Changes Trains" and "Goodbye to Berlin" on which the various films and plays are based. They are outstanding sources for the rise of Hitler and the demi-monde which was Berlin in the 20s and 30s.
I saw a production at the Old Vic, Bristol, years ago. In the interval, some people were complaining that the actress playing Sally "wasn't as good as Liza Minelli", forgetting that Minelli could have had umpteen takes to achieve her incredible performance.
Some people think Minelli's performance is too good for the part. Sally is performing in a third-rate club and is riddled with doubts as to whether she is good enough for that. Minelli gives a world class performance.
There was a very good revival at Curve in Leicester recently.
Very pertinent in these days of gender and culture wars.
The beer garden scene is possibly the creepiest scene in musical history.
Saw a production in New York of Fidler on the Roof in Yiddish, directed by Joel Grey (EmCee in Cabaret) about 5 years ago. He very nearly stole the movie from Minelli. It's good to know he was still working hard in his late eighties.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
I don't think this is xenophobic bullshit. Deportations collapsed under the Tories, a mix of underfunding and a deliberate policy of not processing claims. The sensible thing to do is to process claims, some of whom warrant deportation. Remove the people who should be removed as quickly as possible is a sensible approach.
I agree with that. She just needs to watch her language.
"We will process asylum claimants much quicker. This will save money on housing them. It will enable genuine asylum seekers to start work, pay taxes and help the economy. And those who fail the test will be deported."
None of this I'll lock 'em up stuff. I wonder if that is a genuine quote.
There's a whiff of corruption around Kennedy, isn't there, both personal and political.
I think youll find that goes back several generations and nobody on the Dem side was that worried.
It is bizarre to me that my parents generation of Democrats venerates the Kennedys. He was a very poor president, a poor human being but being good looking can apparently overcome everything.
Cuban Missile Crisis he did well, Bay of Pigs less so. He also cut taxes and grew the economy and began to move towards more civil rights for African Americans though LBJ did most of the work and created Medicare and Medicaid. JFK also avoided full on involvement in the Vietnam War which clouded LBJ's legacy and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 of course campaigned to end the war in Vietnam and for a negotiated settlement
He gave LBJ a bit of a hospital pass on Vietnam though.
But that's my point about his learning from mistakes in office - and the truncated potential.
A detailed reading of the history very strongly suggests that he'd started to be deeply sceptical about the justification for US policy in Vietnam (and the majority hawkish view of his administration) and it's at least reasonably likely (probable in my view) that he'd have cut US losses, and pulled out, rather than escalating as LBJ did.
Another of the great disappointments of history is that I don't think we'll ever get Robert Caro's full take on that.
No, not looking good for more LBJ from Caro. My dad (91) chases his publisher on it every few months. The reply is always nice but not especially informative.
We've yet to have a truly comprehensive, dispassionate history of Vietnam. There are many great accounts, but the best of them are by those who were too involved to give more than a partial view. And the sources so copious that it would be the work of a lifetime, for another Caro.
Really you want the contemporaneous Vietnamese documents, and I suspect that’s something for 100 years from now if they kept them at all.
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Hopefully we are going back to those heady days when the rule of law meant something. The money wasted on decisions, appeals, further appeals and judicial reviews only to do.....nothing is simply unforgivable. And years later, when they have started families here, we get to do it all again dealing with their article 8 rights acquired because the first order was never actually enforced.
We end up with hundreds of thousands living in a shadowland where they can't get a proper job, decent housing, proper health care, education for their kids, where they are left vulnerable to exploitation because of their status and utterly alienated from a society they wanted to be a part of. Its immoral, its wicked and it creates so many problems for our society.
We need widescale amnesties to deal with the ridiculous backlog and then, yes, when people are found not to be eligible to be here, we need to act and ensure that they go back home. Promptly.
We don't need wide scale amenities.
Implement my plan for smashing the black economy.
Sure, GDP will have a bit of a lurch.
Interesting typo but I get what you mean even if I disagree. Every case is taking far too long to resolve. We need a clean start. Anyone who has been in this country for 10 years should get indefinite leave to remain. We have had our chance and then some.
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
The same words could have been spoken by Tommy Robinson.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
My partner went down to see it last year and absolutely loved it, I somewhat regret not going with her. I would have like to have seen the earlier cast with Jessie Buckley, she performs brilliantly of the soundtrack (and I find her alluring).
I saw it when it opened in London. A wonderful show with real impact. There’s a moment in the show when the swastika is first revealed, when I swear everyone in the theatre took a sharp breath and felt real shock: even those of us who’ve seen many versions over the years. That plus the handling of “if you could see her through my eyes” are genius.
Was that with Anna Maxwell Martin ? Would have loved to see that.
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
The same words could have been spoken by Tommy Robinson.
Tommy Robinson would deport everyone who immigrated in the last century. It's an absurd comparison.
Last night I saw Cabaret, about the Kit Kat Club at the tail end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis.
I saw it with my wife, 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter. My daughter was utterly distraught at the end. And I must admit it was not entirely at all age appropriate. However, it was incredibly powerful, in two regards: Firstly, the willingness of ordinary people to shrug their shouders and says "it'll be OK, governments come and go", when bad bad things are coming; and secondly, how easy it is for ordinary people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they are desperate for money.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants a powerful, but somewhat distressing, evening out.
Is the 1970s film or have they done a re-make?
Stage show based on the same Kander & Ebb musical that the film was based.
The musical was based on an earlier play, that in turn was based on Christopher Isherwood's semi-autobiographical stories. (These were also the inspiration for The Buggles song "I am a Camera".)
Indeed - Isherwood wrote "Mr Norris Changes Trains" and "Goodbye to Berlin" on which the various films and plays are based. They are outstanding sources for the rise of Hitler and the demi-monde which was Berlin in the 20s and 30s.
I saw a production at the Old Vic, Bristol, years ago. In the interval, some people were complaining that the actress playing Sally "wasn't as good as Liza Minelli", forgetting that Minelli could have had umpteen takes to achieve her incredible performance.
Some people think Minelli's performance is too good for the part. Sally is performing in a third-rate club and is riddled with doubts as to whether she is good enough for that. Minelli gives a world class performance.
She's great in the film but if course it's Hollywood does 'litrachur'.
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
The same words could have been spoken by Tommy Robinson.
If this is the quality of analysis on here now, perhaps Leon was correct and we are all too thick for him.
There's a whiff of corruption around Kennedy, isn't there, both personal and political.
I think youll find that goes back several generations and nobody on the Dem side was that worried.
It is bizarre to me that my parents generation of Democrats venerates the Kennedys. He was a very poor president, a poor human being but being good looking can apparently overcome everything.
Cuban Missile Crisis he did well, Bay of Pigs less so. He also cut taxes and grew the economy and began to move towards more civil rights for African Americans though LBJ did most of the work and created Medicare and Medicaid. JFK also avoided full on involvement in the Vietnam War which clouded LBJ's legacy and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 of course campaigned to end the war in Vietnam and for a negotiated settlement
He gave LBJ a bit of a hospital pass on Vietnam though.
But that's my point about his learning from mistakes in office - and the truncated potential.
A detailed reading of the history very strongly suggests that he'd started to be deeply sceptical about the justification for US policy in Vietnam (and the majority hawkish view of his administration) and it's at least reasonably likely (probable in my view) that he'd have cut US losses, and pulled out, rather than escalating as LBJ did.
Another of the great disappointments of history is that I don't think we'll ever get Robert Caro's full take on that.
No, not looking good for more LBJ from Caro. My dad (91) chases his publisher on it every few months. The reply is always nice but not especially informative.
We've yet to have a truly comprehensive, dispassionate history of Vietnam. There are many great accounts, but the best of them are by those who were too involved to give more than a partial view. And the sources so copious that it would be the work of a lifetime, for another Caro.
Really you want the contemporaneous Vietnamese documents, and I suspect that’s something for 100 years from now if they kept them at all.
Oh, they're around. Some of them at least (though a lot will have been destroyed) and a huge number already available.
A decade ago, for example, Nick Turse wrote Kill Anything that Moves, which sourced contemporary military cables regarding a number of US massacres, and a de facto policy of targeting civilians.
It's very difficult to hide or destroy documentation for a conflict as huge, and central ti the governments of a decade, as was Vietnam - the leak of the Pentagon Papers showed that half a century back.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
You want people with no legal right to be in the UK to just be able to stay here? You should have voted Green.
Funny how people's attitudes to deporting would be immigrants have changed.
Has something changed in politics in the last couple of months?
PM looks a bit taller than I last remember. Also, he seems to have been at the cake.
I think nearly everyone thinks that those who don't have a valid asylum claim should be deported. It was weird how the Tories seemed to think that not doing that somehow made their position better. It should be a no brainer.
Oh great, are we going to go back to the days of "Go Home" vans?
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
You want people with no legal right to be in the UK to just be able to stay here? You should have voted Green.
He should have voted LD, the Greens are too Nimby for him nationally
Funny how people's attitudes to deporting would be immigrants have changed.
Has something changed in politics in the last couple of months?
PM looks a bit taller than I last remember. Also, he seems to have been at the cake.
I think nearly everyone thinks that those who don't have a valid asylum claim should be deported. It was weird how the Tories seemed to think that not doing that somehow made their position better. It should be a no brainer.
David Lammy has challenged the government over the Home Office’s decision to resume deportation flights to Jamaica, asking it to demonstrate that “black lives matter”.
I imagine and hope there's much more to the story than meets the eye, as chanting is not last I checked a crime.
Most of these stories have had more than meets the eye to them.
He admitted to violent disorder and was out on licence from a 20-year sentence for cocaine smuggling.
So, yeah, the headline is completely irresponsible. "67 year old convicted cocaine smuggler jailed after participating in recent riots" would be a lot more accurate, and wouldn't create the impression of a draconian crackdown.
Perhaps those Russian trolls have moved on to writing the BBC headlines as well as flooding X/Twitter?
The actual headline says 'Protester Jailed Over Violent Disorder' - at least it does for me:
I imagine and hope there's much more to the story than meets the eye, as chanting is not last I checked a crime.
Most of these stories have had more than meets the eye to them.
He admitted to violent disorder and was out on licence from a 20-year sentence for cocaine smuggling.
So, yeah, the headline is completely irresponsible. "67 year old convicted cocaine smuggler jailed after participating in recent riots" would be a lot more accurate, and wouldn't create the impression of a draconian crackdown.
Perhaps those Russian trolls have moved on to writing the BBC headlines as well as flooding X/Twitter?
The actual headline says 'Protester Jailed Over Violent Disorder' - at least it does for me:
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
The same words could have been spoken by Tommy Robinson.
No, Tommy Robinson is opposed to all immigration, not just the illegal kind.
Yes you did. Starmer specially promised to deport people to Bangladesh.
He provided an example of a country to which it is possible to deport those who have failed with asylum applications but to which deportations were not happening.
The same words could have been spoken by Tommy Robinson.
No, Tommy Robinson is opposed to all immigration, not just the illegal kind.
iSKS when he was pretending to be left wing: We will close Yarls Wood
Keir Starmer now: We will increase immigration detention spaces.
What's the rationale for allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the UK without consequence?
They're not illegal until they've been processed, once processed if they're denied asylum then their return has to be agreed. Being detained at Yarls Wood is reportedly not a pleasant experience.
iSKS when he was pretending to be left wing: We will close Yarls Wood
Keir Starmer now: We will increase immigration detention spaces.
What's the rationale for allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the UK without consequence?
They're not illegal until they've been processed, once processed if they're denied asylum then their return has to be agreed. Being detained at Yarls Wood is reportedly not a pleasant experience.
That's asylum seekers. I'm talking about illegal immigrants.
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I was searching for clips to contrast this, but someone got there first.
A tale of two roll calls: RNC vs. DNC
https://x.com/Morning_Joe/status/1826198620724474332
I was struck by this bit: "He won’t be drawn further, including on whether he suffered side effects — though when I ask later I’m told his usage was for six weeks in autumn 2023."
So it doesn't say when exactly last autumn, but it's fair to assume that getting into better shape was a deliberate step on the path to making a leadership bid. As, of course, was his resignation in December.
Demonstrates that he's been serious about preparing the ground - but then we knew that already, so it's unlikely to move sentiment that much.
There always is far more to it. Usually violent altercations.
"It was nice of you to come"
One way to influence / recruit youth was called Project Schoolyard back in the day (say last time the far right was surging). One tactic was to hand out CDs of white power music at the school gate.
From the Scottish Herald piece I linked last week:
IN Scotland, I uncovered that Steve Cartwright had helped bring the concept – first originated in America – called Project Schoolyard to Britain. This saw neo-Nazis handing out white power CDs to children at school gates.
This was an important and frightening development. Kids were being groomed. I began filming anything I could related to this, and eventually had enough material to air the documentary Nazi Hate Rock. It got me a Bafta nomination.
Let me make clear just how vile white power music is: there’s a song like “Jack-Hammered N****r P***y”, or “Freezer-full of N****r heads”.
https://archive.ph/Wh36D#selection-2113.3-2121.141
Personally, my concern is how fuzzy it is at the edges, plus how far overlaps go.
I haven't watched Cabaret - I'll have to do so.
also brilliantly parodied by Spitting Image ahead of the 87 General Election.
'Give it ten minutres, I'm getting on a bit.'
As a regular user of the Grindr app of many years I didn’t think anything could shock me when it came to that app but the behaviour of William Wragg, the Tory MP for Hazel Grove, has managed to leave me shocked and speechless.
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/04/05/jesus-mary-joseph-and-the-wee-donkey/
The other one is to mess around with internal reorganisations, renaming departments and shifting responsibilities and people. How many names has the Border Force or whatever had in recent years?
Moving the pieces around the chessboard is just as unlikely to work as making everything more complicated, but it enables people at the top to say "we're on top of this, look how busy we've been". And journalists and other commentators will always confuse activity with achievement because it provides them with a story in the short term, which is what they want.
Cheesehead hats are often worn by Green Bay Packer fans, for similar reasons. (Do the obvious search to see examples.)
https://x.com/SkyCricket/status/1826226763971576146
It's fair to say that a large chunk of the party is livid about the situation, and there are moves afoot to either replace or perhaps somehow reign in the officers: https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2024-08-20/uup-anger-as-members-bid-for-emergency-meeting-over-beattie-ousting
If that happens, you might even see Beattie putting his name forward again - but he might well be too thoroughly sick of the whole thing.
EDIT: The correct name is the Border Farce. Bit like Twatter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/123wvmv/how_and_when_did_tomorrow_belongs_to_me_a_fake/
No, Jenkins, not Magna Carta. Poor old Magna has suffered quite enough.
Nick KnightIan Ward showed that footage to Nasser Hussain who still hasn’t gotten over it in 26 years.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/08/21/ftse-100-markets-latest-news-government-borrowing-reeves/
Home Secretary vows to increase removals to levels not seen since Theresa May’s government"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/08/21/yvette-cooper-labour-lock-up-more-migrants/
I did not vote for this xenophobic bullshit.
I lent my vote to Labour and thought Labour might quickly lose it due to economics, I didn't think they'd lose it for fading into being some sort of Reform Tribute Act.
Trump is in the classic dictatorial position: He needs to die in bed holding all executive power to stay out of prison. This means that he will do whatever he can to gain power, and once in power will do all that he can to never let it go. This is a basic incentive structure which underlies everything else. It is entirely inconsistent with democracy."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/opinion/trump-second-term-2025.html
And Dorothy Parker's one line review:
"Me no Leica".
SKS Fans own your xenophobic bullshit
published the legal advice on arms sales to Israel he demanded his predecessor David Cameron publish just months ago?
I am no fan of Plod, but when b@stards are lobbing breeze blocks at them, the aforementioned b@stards should go straight to jail without passing Go!
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1826140094408843753
Some people think Minelli's performance is too good for the part. Sally is performing in a third-rate club and is riddled with doubts as to whether she is good enough for that. Minelli gives a world class performance.
We end up with hundreds of thousands living in a shadowland where they can't get a proper job, decent housing, proper health care, education for their kids, where they are left vulnerable to exploitation because of their status and utterly alienated from a society they wanted to be a part of. Its immoral, its wicked and it creates so many problems for our society.
We need widescale amnesties to deal with the ridiculous backlog and then, yes, when people are found not to be eligible to be here, we need to act and ensure that they go back home. Promptly.
Very pertinent in these days of gender and culture wars.
The beer garden scene is possibly the creepiest scene in musical history.
Implement my plan for smashing the black economy.
Sure, GDP will have a bit of a lurch.
There are many great accounts, but the best of them are by those who were too involved to give more than a partial view. And the sources so copious that it would be the work of a lifetime, for another Caro.
The obvious question for the Tories is to ask why they did not.
"We will process asylum claimants much quicker. This will save money on housing them. It will enable genuine asylum seekers to start work, pay taxes and help the economy. And those who fail the test will be deported."
None of this I'll lock 'em up stuff. I wonder if that is a genuine quote.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05je6yz0q1o
Interesting, the media initially reported this as Russian disinformation site.
Has something changed in politics in the last couple of months?
PM looks a bit taller than I last remember. Also, he seems to have been at the cake.
Would have loved to see that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws2ZuiNCFOg
(Not brilliant quality)
Some of them at least (though a lot will have been destroyed) and a huge number already available.
A decade ago, for example, Nick Turse wrote Kill Anything that Moves, which sourced contemporary military cables regarding a number of US massacres, and a de facto policy of targeting civilians.
It's very difficult to hide or destroy documentation for a conflict as huge, and central ti the governments of a decade, as was Vietnam - the leak of the Pentagon Papers showed that half a century back.
And the Presidential Records Act preserves and makes available a vast trove of documents.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Records_Act
Stirling Council approved the development, but the Scottish Government will now make the final decision'
https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1826227486138802533
FULL SPEECH: Joe Biden’s full speech at the DNC 20 Aug 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehmgSOPVBZw
David Lammy has challenged the government over the Home Office’s decision to resume deportation flights to Jamaica, asking it to demonstrate that “black lives matter”.
Keir Starmer now: We will increase immigration detention spaces.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gq8rn4y0jo
Being detained at Yarls Wood is reportedly not a pleasant experience.