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Betfair punters remember this is a close race – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,212
edited August 26 in General
imageBetfair punters remember this is a close race – politicalbetting.com

I have to admit this has happened sooner than I expected, I thought the Harris lead on Betfair would widen this week due to the convention then narrow in September.

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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,114
    First, like Kamala (I hope)
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,704
    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    There is just one person can turn this round and reverse the cross combover taking the lead.

    It is time.

    For the one.

    The only.

    The greatest.

    KLOBUCHAR.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,114
    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    In America nothing succeeds like excess.
  • partypoliticalorphanpartypoliticalorphan Posts: 366
    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934
    Superb Convention speech by Michelle Obama. She would have been a great President, but having lived 8 years in the White House with all that entails, you can understand why she has no interest.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Anyway, in important news:

    England go into the first test with a decidedly makeshift XI including a stand-in captain, non-specialist opener and a county no. 8 at no.7.

    It is of course true that Lawrence will probably score as many runs as the distinctly patchy Crawley. But that side has the tail of a diplodocus so it will need *more* runs from the top 6 than usual.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,704
    edited August 21
    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?

    Beyond the obvious headline policies such as reproductive freedom I am not sure. BTW Grabbing ownership of “freedom “ and tying it to that Bejonce riff was a genius bit of campaigning.

    My hunch is that after Project 2025 there will be less emphasis on theological policy
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,943
    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    If we want fast cricket we have T20. The Hundred was always a stupid idea.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 620
    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Not a chance, it's a wat for the rest venues and ECB high ups to cash in. Graves' "rescue" of Yorkshire is tied to him getting ownership of the headingley franchise.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934
    Foxy said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    In America nothing succeeds like excess.
    Especially when you are selling egg pudding.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,422
    Scottish government failing on Post Office scandal: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clylnely25eo
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Why ?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,972
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    Every sporting organisation knows that you never clash dates with the Olympics.

    But this is the ECB, so it’s probably to be expected.

    LOL at the last line, they’re looking for new investors? Who’s going to invest in that crap shoot that no-one watches?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,972
    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,882
    edited August 21
    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    edited August 21
    Sandpit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    Every sporting organisation knows that you never clash dates with the Olympics.

    But this is the ECB, so it’s probably to be expected.

    LOL at the last line, they’re looking for new investors? Who’s going to invest in that crap shoot that no-one watches?
    They're trying to flog it to the IPL franchises, in essence.

    Although it is worth remembering the fact it is up for sale at all shows it has failed. The initial idea, because Tom Harrison and Vikram Banerjee (bless them) have about three brain cells between them, was that it would be owned by the ECB and make lots and lots of luvverly cash for them.

    They apparently hadn't noticed that of T20 leagues around the world, only the IPL makes a serious profit. The Big Bash League roughly breaks even (having lost a lot of money in the first ten years) and the rest make a loss.

    Edit - this is an interesting article on the subject.

    https://beingoutsidecricket.com/2024/02/20/is-the-hundred-a-success/
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,767
    edited August 21
    edit: rubbish removed
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,437
    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    "The Dems love their abortions so much..."

    As opposed to control-freak anti-woke men who want women to be baby-breeding machines? Even in cases such as rape or incest?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,767
    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    Greater control for the ECB over the county game.

    Which, ironically, they are giving up by selling a large stake in the franchises for a knock-down price while giving the rest to the counties.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    edited August 21
    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    "The Dems love their abortions so much..."

    As opposed to control-freak anti-woke men who want women to be baby-breeding machines? Even in cases such as rape or incest?
    Hmmm.

    There are some allegations flying around on Twitter today, which I will not repeat for fear of being force fed pineapple pizza while reading 67 AV threads, that may not be to Mr Trump's advantage on this subject.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    MarqueeMark said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
    They are just Stilton at windmills...
    I Cantal you're into cheesy puns.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 22,355
    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    ydoethur said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    "The Dems love their abortions so much..."

    As opposed to control-freak anti-woke men who want women to be baby-breeding machines? Even in cases such as rape or incest?
    Hmmm.

    There are some allegations flying around on Twitter today, which I will not repeat for fear of being force fed pineapple pizza while reading 67 AV threads, that may not be to Mr Trump's advantage on this subject.
    Trump could have personally performed backstreet abortions and the MAGA crowd would find a reason to excuse it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Benpointer said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
    They are just Stilton at windmills...
    I Cantal you're into cheesy puns.
    Oh lor, we're off on cheese puns.

    For everyone's sake let's keep it Brie-f.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,422
    Free speech under threat in the US as Trump proposes to make criticism of pro-Trump judges illegal: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-proposes-ban-on-criticizing-pro-trump-judges.html
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379
    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,515
    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    I could watch T20 at Chester le Street but not the Hundred. Down with the Hundred.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,437
    ydoethur said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    "The Dems love their abortions so much..."

    As opposed to control-freak anti-woke men who want women to be baby-breeding machines? Even in cases such as rape or incest?
    Hmmm.

    There are some allegations flying around on Twitter today, which I will not repeat for fear of being force fed pineapple pizza while reading 67 AV threads, that may not be to Mr Trump's advantage on this subject.
    I don't know what the allegations are, but say a Republican politician had, or forced a woman to have, an abortion. Does that play badly against them? In some cases, yes. In most, no; because they're a bunch of ****ing hypocrites who pretend to be 'religious' in order to appeal to the terminally thick religious zealots.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,608
    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    a
    ydoethur said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    "The Dems love their abortions so much..."

    As opposed to control-freak anti-woke men who want women to be baby-breeding machines? Even in cases such as rape or incest?
    Hmmm.

    There are some allegations flying around on Twitter today, which I will not repeat for fear of being force fed pineapple pizza while reading 67 AV threads, that may not be to Mr Trump's advantage on this subject.
    Back when American politics was relatively sane, there were “set your watches moments” - the result would be inevitable.

    - Politician starts railing about immigration. SYWM - turns out most of the domestic staff at his/her mansion are illegals. Extra points for having an affair with one of them.

    - Politician starts on gun control. SYWM - turns out that the pol owns an arsenal. Extra points for having a special license for some or all, in states that do have restrictions. Top points for pols who employ private armed guards. Living on a gated estate which comes with armed guards only gets you *some* points.

    - Politician starts in on family values. SYWM - points for affair, affair with illegal immigrant domestic staff, points for abortion, points for dumping wife….

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    edited August 21
    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Who was the poster who suggested getting rid of the cricket altogether and just charging people to come and drink beer in a nice grassy open space?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    bondegezou said:

    Free speech under threat in the US as Trump proposes to make criticism of pro-Trump judges illegal: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-proposes-ban-on-criticizing-pro-trump-judges.html

    Hang on, I recall be told that questioning the probity or judgement of Judges was The End Of Democracy.

    Or have I got the cue cards muddled up? Again….
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632
    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Yes that could really appeal to the under 5s - thus securing cricket's future.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    .
    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    Yes, you've had it wrong.

    It comes from the Latin pace which means peace.

    Preposition: pace
    With due respect to (someone or their opinion), used to express polite disagreement or contradiction.
    "narrative history, pace some theorists, is by no means dead"
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,972
    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Someone’s been watching too much of that UFC face-slapping “competition”.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 726
    ydoethur said:

    Benpointer said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
    They are just Stilton at windmills...
    I Cantal you're into cheesy puns.
    Oh lor, we're off on cheese puns.

    For everyone's sake let's keep it Brie-f.
    Me too. I camembert it for too much longer.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I'm afraid Benpointer is right. Though if you want to flag it up that you don't agree with someone you can use 'contra': thus I agree with BP contra Viewcode. It does have a more, erm, robust feel, though.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,882
    Stereodog said:

    ydoethur said:

    Benpointer said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
    They are just Stilton at windmills...
    I Cantal you're into cheesy puns.
    Oh lor, we're off on cheese puns.

    For everyone's sake let's keep it Brie-f.
    Me too. I camembert it for too much longer.
    I'm laughing like a cow at this punformance.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    kinabalu said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Yes that could really appeal to the under 5s - thus securing cricket's future.
    Better to introduce sumo wrestling instead. Same kind of exceptionalist islander tradition, same special white raiment, same arcane rules, same weird rituals (salt! tea!), and it lasts about 1/200 the time. So put a dohyō on the square and you have more space and more time for beer.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Carnyx said:

    kinabalu said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Yes that could really appeal to the under 5s - thus securing cricket's future.
    Better to introduce sumo wrestling instead. Same kind of exceptionalist islander tradition, same special white raiment, same arcane rules, same weird rituals (salt! tea!), and it lasts about 1/200 the time. So put a dohyō on the square and you have more space and more time for beer.
    You just throwing that out there?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379
    Carnyx said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I'm afraid Benpointer is right. Though if you want to flag it up that you don't agree with someone you can use 'contra': thus I agree with BP contra Viewcode. It does have a more, erm, robust feel, though.
    Fuck. This is embarrassing. ☹️
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632
    There's no corresponding move towards Trump in the key state markets. Not that I can see anyway and I'm all over them.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    MattW said:

    Stereodog said:

    ydoethur said:

    Benpointer said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    I know it's alien to British political culture.
    This is how it works.

    9yo: What is that?
    Me: What?
    9yo: THAT!
    Me: The convention?
    9yo: No.
    Wife: Cheese hats.
    9yo: WHY DO THEY GET CHEESE HATS??
    ME: Do you want a cheese hat?
    9yo: OF COURSE I WANT ONE!
    https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1826062597696926157
    How do Yanks get Cheese Hats when they don't have cheese?

    is this a request for foreign aid?
    They are just Stilton at windmills...
    I Cantal you're into cheesy puns.
    Oh lor, we're off on cheese puns.

    For everyone's sake let's keep it Brie-f.
    Me too. I camembert it for too much longer.
    I'm laughing like a cow at this punformance.
    Whey hey.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,882
    edited August 21
    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    No compromise there.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,471
    As a lover of proper cricket, I find the T20 competitions pretty boring.
    But nowhere near as boring as the abysmal Hundred.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    If it's any consolation I was left in genuine doubt, given the latter's judicial style. I've never forgotten reading about his approach to sugar smuggling.

    http://dreddalert.blogspot.com/2014/11/judge-dredd-sweet-taste-of-justice.html
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 888
    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    That would be a huge overreach from the European Central Bank. It's just not cricket!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,012
    ydoethur said:

    Anyway, in important news:

    England go into the first test with a decidedly makeshift XI including a stand-in captain, non-specialist opener and a county no. 8 at no.7.

    It is of course true that Lawrence will probably score as many runs as the distinctly patchy Crawley. But that side has the tail of a diplodocus so it will need *more* runs from the top 6 than usual.

    If Root plays like Root instead of the biff, bang wallop version as a result that will be a good thing.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    If it's any consolation I was left in genuine doubt, given the latter's judicial style. I've never forgotten reading about his approach to sugar smuggling.

    http://dreddalert.blogspot.com/2014/11/judge-dredd-sweet-taste-of-justice.html
    His approach to parking offences and DUI would meet with approval with some here -

    https://youtu.be/jOSsrcKHujM?si=UzJWueYObmIJRB3d
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,442
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Who was the poster who suggested getting rid of the cricket altogether and just charging people to come and drink beer in a nice grassy open space?
    Whilst the BBC are desperate for grassy open space action to fill the schedules, I'm not sure that even they are that desperate.

    (Wasn't the need for something that looked a bit like cricket, but was knock-off brand enough that it would be cheap enough for terrestrial TV part of the brief in the first place?)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    Unpopular said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    That would be a huge overreach from the European Central Bank. It's just not cricket!
    What if…

    The European Central Bank takes over responsibility for England & Wales cricket.

    The England & Wales Cricket Board takes over financial control in Europe.

    The current arrangement isn’t working. Time to spice it up…..
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815
    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
    Per is legalese not academese: An Englishman's home is his castle: Scratchy vs Itchy 1948 Court of Appeal per Denning LJ. In academese I think you just cite the paper if you agree with it. Nice things are nicer than nasty ones (Popper 1956).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    It remains a close race though Harris will have been boosted by the speeches by Barack and Michelle Obama at the DNC last night for her which will likely boost black turnout for her, crucial in swing states like North Carolina and Georgia and cities like Detroit and Philadelphia with big African American populations too in the swing states of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    As of this morning, RCP has Harris leading Trump by 1.5% in the popular vote average but Trump ahead by 287 to 251 for Harris in the EC, though Trump leads in PA and Arizona by just 0.2% on average.

    By the weekend I suspect Harris will be narrowly ahead in the EC too after her likely post convention poll bounce and to have increased her lead in national polls

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-westhttps://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    edited August 21
    mercator said:

    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
    Per is legalese not academese: An Englishman's home is his castle: Scratchy vs Itchy 1948 Court of Appeal per Denning LJ. In academese I think you just cite the paper if you agree with it. Nice things are nicer than nasty ones (Popper 1956).
    I think it actually originated in the Georgian navy. Captains had to write a report after every action. You would name any prizes you took in the margin, and the convention (to save time) was to write 'as per margin' in the main body of the report.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,882
    I think this is a good article on the BBC In Depth about how the far right in the UK has changed:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74lwnxxxzjo

    As someone who has spent years investigating right-wing extremism, I keep being asked who organised the chaos, as if there is one simple answer.

    But the recent disorder is more complex and has laid bare the anarchy of modern right-wing extremism, as well as the extent of its reach.

    The truth is that no one organisation owned or organised the riots: they were bigger than that.

    This lack of cohesion makes the situation more unpredictable and dangerous. For the authorities, there are so many potential rioters and potential targets, and a lack of obvious national organisations to disrupt.

    By contrast, counter-demonstrations by anti-racism campaigners have been far more cohesive and organised.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815
    ydoethur said:

    mercator said:

    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
    Per is legalese not academese: An Englishman's home is his castle: Scratchy vs Itchy 1948 Court of Appeal per Denning LJ. In academese I think you just cite the paper if you agree with it. Nice things are nicer than nasty ones (Popper 1956).
    I think it actually originated in the Georgian navy. Captains had to write a report after every action. You would name any prizes you took in the margin, and the convention (to save time) was to write 'as per margin' in the main body of the report.
    I know a pompous chap who signs letters Yours etc. The joke being this is just a convention when printing a letter in a book, to save space, and the original letter will have ended I beg to remain sir your most humble and obedient servant
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,352
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    dumpitcitisimme
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,012
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    Ditto Dundee (see what I did there?)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,405
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    For those that don't know Sheffield too well, Dore is one of the roughest parts. Joe Root has often spoke of how cricket was his escape from the area.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 815
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    And dressage was the only way out of the ghetto.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    No compromise there.
    Feels like a Monday. Can’t tell if the date is 1850 or what…
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,012
    HYUFD said:

    It remains a close race though Harris will have been boosted by the speeches by Barack and Michelle Obama at the DNC last night for her which will likely boost black turnout for her, crucial in swing states like North Carolina and Georgia and cities like Detroit and Philadelphia with big African American populations too in the swing states of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    As of this morning, RCP has Harris leading Trump by 1.5% in the popular vote average but Trump ahead by 287 to 251 for Harris in the EC, though Trump leads in PA and Arizona by just 0.2% on average.

    By the weekend I suspect Harris will be narrowly ahead in the EC too after her likely post convention poll bounce and to have increased her lead in national polls

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-westhttps://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

    As I have pointed out before RCP are not playing this straight. They have ignored a series of polls showing leads of 1-4 for Harris in Pennsylvania and claim Trump is in the lead there. He isn't and, according to 538, for example, he hasn't been for about 3 weeks. That switches the result to 270 Harris, 268 Trump. Very, very close but Harris has the edge.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    No compromise there.
    Feels like a Monday. Can’t tell if the date is 1850 or what…
    Roger that.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,405
    This might be pushing Trump in a bit ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/robert-f-kennedy-mulls-quitting-election-to-join-forces-with-trump/ar-AA1p8kzK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2048ff591994866be619557f074c0e9&ei=29

    Robert F Kennedy Jr is considering dropping out of the presidential race and teaming up with Donald Trump to stop Kamala Harris from winning the election, his running mate has said.

    Nicole Shanahan, the independent candidate’s vice presidential running mate, said the pair are considering abandoning their bid for the White House in order to help Trump beat the Democrats.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    mercator said:

    ydoethur said:

    mercator said:

    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
    Per is legalese not academese: An Englishman's home is his castle: Scratchy vs Itchy 1948 Court of Appeal per Denning LJ. In academese I think you just cite the paper if you agree with it. Nice things are nicer than nasty ones (Popper 1956).
    I think it actually originated in the Georgian navy. Captains had to write a report after every action. You would name any prizes you took in the margin, and the convention (to save time) was to write 'as per margin' in the main body of the report.
    I know a pompous chap who signs letters Yours etc. The joke being this is just a convention when printing a letter in a book, to save space, and the original letter will have ended I beg to remain sir your most humble and obedient servant
    Which led to IKB replying “If you were my obedient servant, I would begin with a little flogging…”
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    No compromise there.
    Feels like a Monday. Can’t tell if the date is 1850 or what…
    Roger that.
    The other Sherman, eh?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Carnyx said:

    Malmesbury said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Sandpit said:

    partypoliticalorphan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Dems potentially in danger of over egging the pudding this week.

    Have they announced any policies yet or is it still simply a positive word salad on loop?
    No tax on tips, and the child tax credit - both of which were stolen from Trump. Apart from that it’s still the positive word salad, and abortions. The Dems love their abortions so much they even have a mobile abortion clinic on site.
    Good for the Dems!

    If it weren't for the Big State GOP trying to tell women what to do with their bodies then mobile clinics wouldn't be required.

    How about women get access to do what they need to do via their doctor or pharmacist and everyone else not involved minds their own business? Is that too much to ask for?
    Not just that, but having kicked an abortion back to the states, the various attempts to ban abortion “in other states”. By demanding all kinds of invasive data, trying to prosecute people performing abortions in other states, trying to prosecute companies/medical providers in one state for providing facilities in another state…

    States Rights? There is something familiar about the style of this - I Dredd to think what it is….

    Er, do you mean Dred, or the chap with the big motorbike?
    Great Scott! I seem to have made a typo…
    No compromise there.
    Feels like a Monday. Can’t tell if the date is 1850 or what…
    Roger that.
    The other Sherman, eh?
    I was thinking of Roger B Taney, actually.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Malmesbury said:

    mercator said:

    ydoethur said:

    mercator said:

    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I think you use per for that without the extras, meaning "in accordance with".

    Nobody's contradicted you because none of them know.

    Wiki has a whole article about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_does_"per"_mean?
    Per is legalese not academese: An Englishman's home is his castle: Scratchy vs Itchy 1948 Court of Appeal per Denning LJ. In academese I think you just cite the paper if you agree with it. Nice things are nicer than nasty ones (Popper 1956).
    I think it actually originated in the Georgian navy. Captains had to write a report after every action. You would name any prizes you took in the margin, and the convention (to save time) was to write 'as per margin' in the main body of the report.
    I know a pompous chap who signs letters Yours etc. The joke being this is just a convention when printing a letter in a book, to save space, and the original letter will have ended I beg to remain sir your most humble and obedient servant
    Which led to IKB replying “If you were my obedient servant, I would begin with a little flogging…”
    To another Scott, of course, John Scott Russell.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    For those that don't know Sheffield too well, Dore is one of the roughest parts. Joe Root has often spoke of how cricket was his escape from the area.
    It opened Dores for him?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    Pulpstar said:

    This might be pushing Trump in a bit ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/robert-f-kennedy-mulls-quitting-election-to-join-forces-with-trump/ar-AA1p8kzK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2048ff591994866be619557f074c0e9&ei=29

    Robert F Kennedy Jr is considering dropping out of the presidential race and teaming up with Donald Trump to stop Kamala Harris from winning the election, his running mate has said.

    Nicole Shanahan, the independent candidate’s vice presidential running mate, said the pair are considering abandoning their bid for the White House in order to help Trump beat the Democrats.

    RFK Jr is drawing about equally from both candidates so I doubt it makes much difference either way
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,141
    The political spamming on TwitterX seems to have migrated from the 'For You' column to 'Following'; this ad pops up every time I've logged in today. Pretty sure this is free speech in the sense that Tulsi hasn't had to pay for a platform for her TRUTH gibberish.

    Tulsi Gabbard 🌺
    @TulsiGabbard
    Free speech is under attack in America. Our government has proven they will stop at nothing to try to censor and control what we can say, read and hear. Watch to learn the TRUTH about how they’re doing this and what we must do to stop them and defend #FreeSpeech. #TulsiXTruth

    https://x.com/Live/status/1825928658810450358
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,143
    DavidL said:

    MattW said:

    I think this is a good article on the BBC In Depth about how the far right in the UK has changed:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74lwnxxxzjo

    As someone who has spent years investigating right-wing extremism, I keep being asked who organised the chaos, as if there is one simple answer.

    But the recent disorder is more complex and has laid bare the anarchy of modern right-wing extremism, as well as the extent of its reach.

    The truth is that no one organisation owned or organised the riots: they were bigger than that.

    This lack of cohesion makes the situation more unpredictable and dangerous. For the authorities, there are so many potential rioters and potential targets, and a lack of obvious national organisations to disrupt.

    By contrast, counter-demonstrations by anti-racism campaigners have been far more cohesive and organised.

    I can't help that there is a bit of talking your own book here. You make a living by "investigating" the dark, mysterious world of right wing bigots. Turns out there is no master conspiracy after all but small numbers of right wing bigots and various hangers on up for a rumble who would find the organising of sex in a brothel somewhat problematic. So now their "chaotic nature" makes them even more unpredictable and dangerous. Just keep the paycheques coming.
    The difference is social media. Without it it would be small numbers of isolated bigots as it has been for the last thirty years, with it and they can get to significant numbers quickly on events. I am glad that opponents are tracking that and considering how best to respond. I doubt it pays particularly well.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,012
    Pulpstar said:

    This might be pushing Trump in a bit ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/robert-f-kennedy-mulls-quitting-election-to-join-forces-with-trump/ar-AA1p8kzK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2048ff591994866be619557f074c0e9&ei=29

    Robert F Kennedy Jr is considering dropping out of the presidential race and teaming up with Donald Trump to stop Kamala Harris from winning the election, his running mate has said.

    Nicole Shanahan, the independent candidate’s vice presidential running mate, said the pair are considering abandoning their bid for the White House in order to help Trump beat the Democrats.

    The cunning plan of having a lunatic with the name of a Democratic hero splitting the vote for Biden, then Harris, has worked so well that they are finding that he is taking more votes from Trump than Harris. Who would have thought that an anti vaccine nut might appeal to some of Trump's crowd?

    His funder, other than his running mate, is also Trump's biggest backer. They can pull the plug whenever they want.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    edited August 21
    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I'm afraid Benpointer is right. Though if you want to flag it up that you don't agree with someone you can use 'contra': thus I agree with BP contra Viewcode. It does have a more, erm, robust feel, though.
    Fuck. This is embarrassing. ☹️
    So long as you didn’t quote any Catullus 16, now that would be embarrassing and a potentially a career ender.

    I have alluded to Catullus 16 in a few work reports but never quoted it verbatim.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,143
    HYUFD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    This might be pushing Trump in a bit ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/robert-f-kennedy-mulls-quitting-election-to-join-forces-with-trump/ar-AA1p8kzK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2048ff591994866be619557f074c0e9&ei=29

    Robert F Kennedy Jr is considering dropping out of the presidential race and teaming up with Donald Trump to stop Kamala Harris from winning the election, his running mate has said.

    Nicole Shanahan, the independent candidate’s vice presidential running mate, said the pair are considering abandoning their bid for the White House in order to help Trump beat the Democrats.

    RFK Jr is drawing about equally from both candidates so I doubt it makes much difference either way
    He lost his Democrat but Biden is too old support a few weeks ago but still had the MAGA but Trump not quite wacko enough brigade on side.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    Growing up on the mean streets of Sheffield, knowing Latin was essential for surviving.
    He got into one little fight and his mum got scared and said "Tu migras cum amita et avunculo in Bel-Air"
    In West Sheffield natus et educatus...
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,676
    kinabalu said:

    There's no corresponding move towards Trump in the key state markets. Not that I can see anyway and I'm all over them.

    I wonder if someone in the MAGA team is manipulating the market to deceive the orange man into thinking he's winning in order to quieten him down. It wouldn't cost much. Or am I wish-casting?

    Seriously, I don't understand the market movement. There seems to be no news event or poll data to justify it.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,141
    noneoftheabove said:

    DavidL said:

    MattW said:

    I think this is a good article on the BBC In Depth about how the far right in the UK has changed:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74lwnxxxzjo

    As someone who has spent years investigating right-wing extremism, I keep being asked who organised the chaos, as if there is one simple answer.

    But the recent disorder is more complex and has laid bare the anarchy of modern right-wing extremism, as well as the extent of its reach.

    The truth is that no one organisation owned or organised the riots: they were bigger than that.

    This lack of cohesion makes the situation more unpredictable and dangerous. For the authorities, there are so many potential rioters and potential targets, and a lack of obvious national organisations to disrupt.

    By contrast, counter-demonstrations by anti-racism campaigners have been far more cohesive and organised.

    I can't help that there is a bit of talking your own book here. You make a living by "investigating" the dark, mysterious world of right wing bigots. Turns out there is no master conspiracy after all but small numbers of right wing bigots and various hangers on up for a rumble who would find the organising of sex in a brothel somewhat problematic. So now their "chaotic nature" makes them even more unpredictable and dangerous. Just keep the paycheques coming.
    The difference is social media. Without it it would be small numbers of isolated bigots as it has been for the last thirty years, with it and they can get to significant numbers quickly on events. I am glad that opponents are tracking that and considering how best to respond. I doubt it pays particularly well.
    Yep, in the US the chaotic rightwing bigots seemed to have organised themselves enough to take over a major party and attempt a violent coup, sorry, mass sightseeing, at the seat of government. When America sneezes etc.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    viewcode said:

    Carnyx said:

    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    I'm afraid Benpointer is right. Though if you want to flag it up that you don't agree with someone you can use 'contra': thus I agree with BP contra Viewcode. It does have a more, erm, robust feel, though.
    Fuck. This is embarrassing. ☹️
    Not really.
    We all have words we've used for decades, assuming we know what they mean, only to discover...

    (I just can't think of one, right at the moment - but that's probably my poor memory.)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    Barnesian said:

    kinabalu said:

    There's no corresponding move towards Trump in the key state markets. Not that I can see anyway and I'm all over them.

    I wonder if someone in the MAGA team is manipulating the market to deceive the orange man into thinking he's winning in order to quieten him down. It wouldn't cost much. Or am I wish-casting?

    Seriously, I don't understand the market movement. There seems to be no news event or poll data to justify it.
    A seasoned punter thinks it is those punters who backed Harris at silly odds trading out.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    viewcode said:

    Benpointer said:

    geoffw said:

    Nigelb said:

    geoffw said:

    The graph in the header contradicts its concluding phrase, "the momentum, pace Betfair, is with Harris."

    Why ?
    see edit of that post
    pace = latin term usually meaning 'despite' or 'notwithstanding'. Thus the sentence means "the momentum, notwithstanding Betfair, is with Harris."

    (Why a working class lad like TSE can't stick to English is beyond me.)
    I might be embarrassed here. I've used it for over a decade to mean "as per the arguments of" as per academic citation, and nobody's contradicted me. I shall check to make sure I've got it right.
    To be more accurate, 'pace' is the ablative singular form of the Latin noun pax - ie by, with, or from peace.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,173
    HYUFD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    This might be pushing Trump in a bit ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/robert-f-kennedy-mulls-quitting-election-to-join-forces-with-trump/ar-AA1p8kzK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2048ff591994866be619557f074c0e9&ei=29

    Robert F Kennedy Jr is considering dropping out of the presidential race and teaming up with Donald Trump to stop Kamala Harris from winning the election, his running mate has said.

    Nicole Shanahan, the independent candidate’s vice presidential running mate, said the pair are considering abandoning their bid for the White House in order to help Trump beat the Democrats.

    RFK Jr is drawing about equally from both candidates so I doubt it makes much difference either way
    It moved the Betfair odds.
    So I loaded up a bit more on Harris, as I agree with you.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,972
    edited August 21
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    ydoethur said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hundred viewing figures down by more than a quarter as tournament stagnates

    Competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed for the decline in audience numbers

    Television viewing figures for the Hundred dropped by more than a quarter this summer at a time when the England and Wales Cricket Board is hoping to attract investors to buy into the competition.

    Figures seen by Telegraph Sport show that average television audiences across both Hundred competitions took a big hit as the sport struggled for viewership up against the Olympics. The women’s competition dropped by 41 per cent on Sky and the men’s tournament 28 per cent compared to 2023.

    On the BBC, the men’s Hundred was down 25 per cent but the women’s competition stayed roughly the same, with a reduction of only two per cent.

    The figures were improved by a successful last week with audiences for the men’s final on Sunday up by 36 per cent on the BBC with a peak audience of 1.3 million on last year, compared to 869,000 in 2023. Sky figures were slightly better than last year for the final, up by six per cent for the men. The women’s final average audience was however down 10 per cent on Sky and 20 per cent on the BBC. The peak audience figure for the women’s final on both channels was also down.

    The competition’s clash with the Olympics is mainly blamed by insiders for the fall but there is also an indication it is stagnating in only its fourth year and needs new investors to inject fresh ideas to give it a lift.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2024/08/20/hundred-viewing-figures-bbc-sky-sports-olympics-tv-ecb/

    It doesn't need new investors. It needs scrapping.
    Quite aside from its banal offering I don't see anything the Hundred offers that T20 didn't do so already.
    In this TikTok, smartphone, short attention span world, I always felt the Hundred was just not differentiated enough from Twenty20.

    It's time for the ECB to take a truly bold step, and make a competition that is really differentiated.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of PB, I present you with:

    The One

    Just a single ball of cricket. One batsman, one bowler. Maybe even skip the fielders. Whichever batsman hits the ball the furthest wins.

    Let's do it, guys.
    Someone’s been watching too much of that UFC face-slapping “competition”.
    For a slightly more serious answer, how’s about a series of “Cricket Festival” competitions, along the lines of the international Rugby 7s tournament.

    Get all the players at the same place for two or thre days over a weekend. A series of short, perhaps only two overs per side, seven-a-side games in a league format, leading to knockout rounds QF, SF and final. Have mens, womens, boys, and girls competitions all on at the same time, perhaps make use of a second field if available. Make it family-friendly, lots of sideshows and get-the-kids-involved stuff, and a ‘family stand’ in the ground with no alcohol. But to the rest of the crowd, it’s basically a party with some cricket going on in the background, the cans of beer sold by the case slowly disappearing as fast as the sunburn appears, and the day finishes with a live band so everyone doesn’t leave at once.

    You could do four or five locations over the course of a few weeks in the summer, fitting around other events.
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