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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,517

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  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,139
    Pulpstar said:

    kamski said:

    I wonder what Musk's agenda is?

    "1/ It's insane that @Elonmusk replied to @europeinvasionn's tweet about UK riots. The account EuropeInvasionn, as I have stated many times now, is an influence operation. It's a hijacked X account that exclusively deals in anti-migrant & anti-Muslim great replacement disinfo"

    https://x.com/marcowenjones/status/1820521394134016197

    "Musk also replies to the likes of @visegrad24 and @radiogenoa - similar accounts spreading racist bigotry."

    The guy is wrong about visegrad24. That is one of the most reliable well informed accounts in terms of coverage of Ukraine / Russia war and the people behind it are known figures. The main guy is a British / Polish guy, not some anonymous bot account.
    Visegrad24 is well-dodgy, and is known to spread disinformation.
    The examples cited in the criticism of them / their disinformation seem kinda of laughable, some story about Leonardo DiCaprio donating money that turned out to be untrue. They are certainly biased, but on Ukraine / Russia, I have never seen anything that turned out to be untrue and often way ahead of the game reporting on what has been going on, they certainly not posting in what we are talking about these dodgy twitter accounts posting fake names of people who have stabbed kids in Southport style.
    I've noticed that it can be quite an odd channel at times, as if there are at least two people running it at times (which is fine), but they don't talk to each other.

    The following tweet of theirs is an interesting one, because it *may* be true, but is also kinda not the point as the rioters were not pro-Palestinians. And look at the responses...
    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820566268006801899

    Or this one:
    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820510381040681377

    Concentrating on the people the rioters are complaining about, rather than the rioters themselves, is odd.
    I am struggling to see what is wrong with the first one. Part of that group ran up to Sky News reporter and were banging on about Free Palestine.

    The account is certainly biased, but that's not the same as spreader of fake news. To be honest, I don't look at it that much now Ukraine / Russia has dropped off the radar.
    Because if you are trying to show what is going on in a riot, you might actually want to show rioters.

    I'm no fan of the pro-Palestine mob, but their direct relevance to what's happened in the last few days is zero. Yet to anyone looking at visegrad's channel would think that the riots were fuelled by immigrants and fans of immigrants. There are no pictures of rioting Brits, just of, oddly enough, ethnic minorities.

    As another example, this one:
    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820464940777713717
    There's plenty of reporting of rioting white people. Why pray did Sky News delete from its website the incidents in Birmingham ?
    My wife this morning: "what riots?"

    Plenty of people don't follow the news and, outside of parts of very major cities, you'd never know it's happening.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,757
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    Nigelb said:

    Musk has a history of tweeting shit about unrest in Europe.
    https://x.com/VolodyaTretyak/status/1820535760132690051

    Engineering genius; political imbecile.

    Not even an 'engineering genius' IMO. A genius self-publicist only.
    No, he has a genius for getting stuff done.

    You don't create both Tesla and SpaceX without some extraordinary skills. Otherwise such things would be more common.

    The self-publicity thing was a great help with Tesla's zero marketing spend, it's true.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,462
    Nigelb said:

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    Nigelb said:

    Musk has a history of tweeting shit about unrest in Europe.
    https://x.com/VolodyaTretyak/status/1820535760132690051

    Engineering genius; political imbecile.

    Not even an 'engineering genius' IMO. A genius self-publicist only.
    No, he has a genius for getting stuff done.

    You don't create both Tesla and SpaceX without some extraordinary skills. Otherwise such things would be more common.

    The self-publicity thing was a great help with Tesla's zero marketing spend, it's true.
    Agree... in part.

    Many people have set up private rocket companies, before and after. Ditto EV companies.

    Both SpaceX and Tesla almost went bust in 2007/8. but in both cases were helped out massively by the US government. Musk was very, very lucky with his timing. If it had not been for that, then both Tesla and SpaceX would have been footnotes in history.

    One of the many things that annoys me about Musk is that he does not acknowledge the debt he owes to others, including people vital but kinda coincidental to the story like Jerry Pournelle.

    The sad thing is that, with a few minor character alterations, Musk could be a genuine inspiration for everyone, despite everything I have just said. But like Johnson, his character flaws dominate.
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