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  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,442

    It feeds into the Liberal conceit that anyone right wing or socially conservative is stupid and can't think for themselves, so must be being manipulated by a bad actor.

    Its a bit silly and the Ad-hom elements are pathetic and childish.

    Sure I come out with Bollocks sometimes, usually from going from memory not detailed research (this is a web forum not a seminar at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers). However it is possible to criticise the issue not gratitously smear the person.

    I wish they would stick to policy not people. This all feeds into the discussion about people like Carlotta and Cyclefree leaving.
    Has Carlotta said she's not posting anymore? I hope not. I very much liked her style of posting. I think most people did and she was rarely criticised. She was a fairly mainstream Tory so I assumed she just found it less interesting posting when her Party weren't in power
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,807

    So you want some 'here today gone next year' politician to overrule the regulator ?

    The regulator being the expert and doing the job permanently the politician very unlikely to be an expert and having a few hours to look at the info.

    Lets just say it would be a 'brave' decision by the politician.

    And what would be the result - lots of aggravation whatever happens, especially so if the politician is mistaken and with likely no thanks if the politician turns out to be correct.

    Of course there are sometimes 'brave' politicians:

    Liz Truss is likely to give ministers the power to overturn some financial regulators’ decisions if she becomes UK prime minister, a potential move that could set up fresh tensions with the Bank of England.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-10/truss-supports-giving-uk-ministers-power-to-overrule-regulators
    Both brave and correct.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,254
    Sandpit said:

    As controversial as pineapple on pizza, and topical this week - are there any circumstances under which the word ‘medal’ can properly be used as a verb?
    Language has evolved throughout human history. It is inevitable, chill and embrace it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    On topic, it was indeed a perfectly normal day for Trump.
    He's been peddling the same bullshit for decades.

    1993-In congressional testimony, Donald Trump said that Native casino owners didn't deserve special status because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1818777659629093361
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732

    Good morning one and all!
    Off topic I know but I've just had a look at my junk mail and there's a letter there from our local MP Priti Patel. Sorry Dame Priti Patel.
    She reports on, among other things, her objections to the Labour Governments proposal to release prisoners early.
    I thought it was originally proposed by Rishi Sunak's Conservative Government!

    Remember you can fool some of the people (voters) all of the time and most people (voters) some of the time.

    That lie probably works with people who haven't been paying much attention to the news so are not aware of when the idea was first suggested..
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited August 2024

    Best vehicle I’ve ever hard was the Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

    That was basically a sports cars on a 4x4 floor plan.
    They’re good fun. I drove the standard V8 one a few years back, and can’t say I ever thought it really needed another 150bhp though!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,013
    DougSeal said:

    You made the assertion as to percentages. The burden is on you.
    I certainly remember the last time we did a survey of how PBers voted which was some years ago the percentage who voted UKIP was below the UK average, I think Richard Tyndall was their main supporter on here and the percentage of LD supporters above the UK average. Although Tory and Labour supporters were about the same as nationally
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192

    Like racist rioting increases the more the temperature goes above 30C?
    Exactly.

    Proposed - a function that takes the temperature and the time pre/post lager shed. The output is the aggression level on PB.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    eek said:


    Well they don't have the cash to throw at share / bond holders so it's be ruthless or create a very simple of attack lines for the opposition at the next election.

    Also Canadian Teachers don't have votes in the UK...
    As someone whose pension is invested* in Thames Water, I agree we should let them go under.

    *USS also has a big share, although I don't think it's a huge part of the overall fund. They, as other investors, should have been wiser.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,263
    stodge said:

    Second thought of the day - consider it a BOGOF for the first day of the new month.

    I've been interested to read the Police citing disinformation as a cause for some of the disturbances coming off the Southport murders. One example - there was a video showing a couple of groups of young men in Southen fighting at one end of the promenade with machetes and that inevitably went viral and caused all sort of comment.

    Youngsters fighting in Southend is hardly news - it's been going on for at least 60 years if not longer. It might be machetes now rather than switchblades or baseball bats but let's not imagine this is some new horror vested on us. The change is it is filmed in real time, uploaded onto X and within minutes is seen by hundreds if not thousands helped by a nice attention grabbling title like "Big Machete Fight in Southend" or whatever.

    The power of misinformation or disinformation has been exposed this week (if it wasn't known even back in 2011 for example when the disorder then was largely fanned if not orchestrated by a nascent Twitter). You can't put the genie back in the bottle unfortunately but as we know a growing number of people get their "news" from X or other social media how do we respond?

    Those with a functioning brain cell might want to consider the wisdom of commenting on every X posting as soon as it happens or taking half a story and making it the full story (as we've seen with the Manchester Airport business). We're not Reuters or the PA - reading something from X doesn't make it true (a wise man once said the truth is out there, perhaps, but it's becoming a lot harder to find in the jungle of disinformation).

    As an aside, we also know the impact of the combination of hot weather and easily available alcohol on some people. Somebody once spoke about personal responsibility - wither that?

    We are ignoring some obvious solutions

    i) Ban Twitter and its variants (Bluesky, Mastodon, Truth Social, Telegraph), or
    ii) Nationalise them

    "You can't put the genie back in the bottle"...well, yes you can. :)
  • Physics requires exact numbers. It depends on "heavy" versus "light". The damage depends on kinetic energy, which equals one half of the mass times the velocity squared.
    So for a car hitting you at 20 mph, it would need to be 2.25 times (30/20 * 30/20) as heavy as a car hitting you at 30 mph to do the same damage?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Exactly.

    Proposed - a function that takes the temperature and the time pre/post lager shed. The output is the aggression level on PB.
    I'm old enough to remember the 'British Riots' (as the BBC called them, so persistently that the Scots, Welsh and even the Nirish complained about the damage to tourism) which unaccountably happened in a separate part of the UK in 2011. In July/August,. too. Maybe there's something in that function?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    edited August 2024
    MaxPB said:

    No, you'd want good managers to start insourcing those functions over time and building up those divisions again.
    Well, I would. But nearly everyone else in "industry" hates the idea of vertical integration.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Exactly.

    Proposed - a function that takes the temperature and the time pre/post lager shed. The output is the aggression level on PB.
    Lagershed: does depend in which time zone a poster is. Not much rioting on PB when the lagershed is in the Pacific, though. Quite noticeable.
  • Language has evolved throughout human history. It is inevitable, chill and embrace it.
    Any noun can be verbed.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Carnyx said:

    I'm old enough to remember the 'British Riots' (as the BBC called them, so persistently that the Scots, Welsh and even the Nirish complained about the damage to tourism) which unaccountably happened in a separate part of the UK in 2011. In July/August,. too. Maybe there's something in that function?
    Rioting seems correlated with summer, around the world, I think.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    MaxPB said:

    Spooking the bond markets for UK utilities would probably be a net benefit as companies will be forced to outline more detailed investment plans and how they intend to service/redeem the bonds from the increased cashflow generated by the investment. Management won't be able to write paper and pay out dividends any more which would be a good result for the UK economy.
    Are you including the UK government in that ? :smile:

    Because they could be the management in the near future.
  • So for a car hitting you at 20 mph, it would need to be 2.25 times (30/20 * 30/20) as heavy as a car hitting you at 30 mph to do the same damage?
    All else being equal, yes.

    But all else is not equal, vehicles have changed in design dramatically to cause pedestrian casualties to collapse.

    So we ought to be increasing speed limits since the roads are safer, not cut them.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    Sandpit said:

    They’re good fun. I drove the standard V8 one a few years back, and can’t say I ever thought it really needed another 150bhp though!
    There does come a point where a car has simply too much power that cannot be used. It was why I liked the JCW mini so much, enough power to have fun, not too much to scare you when you wanted to be silly...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,619
    Carnyx said:

    Well, NuLab was responsible for the 2003 Scottish legislation, at least in being the major component of the governing coalition, though one would need to do some deep diving to be sure how far the LDs, their partner, drove or hindered the legislation (I suspect the former, if anything). But of course the original legal background was different, even if the landowners tried to argue that that should mean no presumption of legal access at all (ie no rights of way system).
    England, and maybe Wales, have a strange system of "access land" (eg would be a SSSI or viewpoint and non-farmable part of a hill) which can be dedicated but do not require a Right of Way to get there.

    That needs reform, for a start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDWDb-TaMM
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,561
    viewcode said:

    We are ignoring some obvious solutions

    i) Ban Twitter and its variants (Bluesky, Mastodon, Truth Social, Telegraph), or
    ii) Nationalise them

    "You can't put the genie back in the bottle"...well, yes you can. :)
    One way of quelling disturbances is the use of water cannons. Perhaps a heavy thunderstorm would have the same effect!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited August 2024

    Rioting seems correlated with summer, around the world, I think.
    And inversely to rainfall, too, as the 'British Riots' suggest. Though there were other reasons in that case.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    Inarguable.
    It has to be Shapiro.

    A Harris-Walz ticket would be a disaster for proper usage of apostrophes in this country.
    https://x.com/ryanbeckwith/status/1818652832477618672
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited August 2024
    Carnyx said:

    Lagershed: does depend in which time zone a poster is. Not much rioting on PB when the lagershed is in the Pacific, though. Quite noticeable.
    Okay, wait until 6pm UK time and I’ll try my best!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,326

    Rioting seems correlated with summer, around the world, I think.
    The question is do the disaster grifters (Farage, Tate, Robinson etc) have an eye on the thermometer when they churn out their ‘only asking questions’ bullshit.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    One way of quelling disturbances is the use of water cannons. Perhaps a heavy thunderstorm would have the same effect!
    Well, London and the Home Counties look like getting a douche today.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    Carnyx said:

    Lagershed: does depend in which time zone a poster is. Not much rioting on PB when the lagershed is in the Pacific, though. Quite noticeable.
    Function test - send several thousand @SeanTs to Jarvis Island.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    Silver, damn!
  • Sandpit said:

    They’re good fun. I drove the standard V8 one a few years back, and can’t say I ever thought it really needed another 150bhp though!
    The joys of a long distance relationship.

    I lived in North Yorkshire, worked in Leeds, and she lived in Birkenhead.

    She couldn’t drive so every bit of BHP helped.

    Yeah, long distance relationships when one of you doesn’t drive isn’t fun.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,326
    Carnyx said:

    Well, London and the Home Counties look like getting a douche today.
    Is Boris Johnson returning from one of his innumerable holidays?
  • Carnyx said:

    Well, London and the Home Counties look like getting a douche today.
    Based on the news London and the Home Counties look like they've got many douches in recent days.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    MattW said:

    England, and maybe Wales, have a strange system of "access land" (eg would be a SSSI or viewpoint and non-farmable part of a hill) which can be dedicated but do not require a Right of Way to get there.

    That needs reform, for a start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDWDb-TaMM
    There was, it must be said, a time when it looked to some as if NuLab in Scotland was being persuaded by the Tories and the landowners to abolish the presumption of access to land. It still gars me grue* to think of it.

    *makes me shiver
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    I note from Edinburgh Minute (great newsletter that gives you today's local news in a digest form) that Edinburgh bin men are going on strike from August 14th to the 22nd - i.e. right in the middle of the Edinburgh festival...
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732

    The joys of a long distance relationship.

    I lived in North Yorkshire, worked in Leeds, and she lived in Birkenhead.

    She couldn’t drive so every bit of BHP helped.

    Yeah, long distance relationships when one of you doesn’t drive isn’t fun.
    I quite like zero points on my driving licence and with it cheap car insurance.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370
    Nigelb said:

    Like everything else, it's complicated.
    But one explanation for the US figures is that getting hit by a tall SUV is a bit like colliding with a square block dead on - and is much more likely to result in a severe head injury.
    Not going to disagree with that
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    Nigelb said:

    Are you including the UK government in that ? :smile:

    Because they could be the management in the near future.
    QAnd on energy we could have Ed Miliband versus Macquarrie.

    What could possibly go wrong ?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,326
    eek said:

    I note from Edinburgh Minute (great newsletter that gives you today's local news in a digest form) that Edinburgh bin men are going on strike from August 14th to the 22nd - i.e. right in the middle of the Edinburgh festival...

    They did the same in 2022. Almost a Festival tradition..
  • TresTres Posts: 2,819
    Cookie said:

    Yes, but I don't think MisterBedfordshire is a Putinbot? He's been here under various guises for years hasn't he? You can't just say someone who you think is a bit right wing is a Putinbot.

    Bless. I bet you took everything that Moonrabbit account was posting at face value too.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,263

    The joys of a long distance relationship.

    I lived in North Yorkshire, worked in Leeds, and she lived in Birkenhead.

    She couldn’t drive so every bit of BHP helped.

    Yeah, long distance relationships when one of you doesn’t drive isn’t fun.
    Perhaps if there was a set of reliable high-speed train links in the region that would have helped? 😎
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Based on the news London and the Home Counties look like they've got many douches in recent days.
    Didn’t Tommy Robinson leave the country to avoid going to court? There was also a story of some model woman doing exactly the same. How not to endear yourself to the judge.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    eek said:

    I note from Edinburgh Minute (great newsletter that gives you today's local news in a digest form) that Edinburgh bin men are going on strike from August 14th to the 22nd - i.e. right in the middle of the Edinburgh festival...

    22% nailed on.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370

    The impact of rising oil prices on real inflation would be deflationary - a rising oil price would not call for the raising of interest rates, it would call for a fall in interest rates to counteract the risk of recession.

    That's not what happened when the oil price rose following Russian invasion of Ukraine.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    They did the same in 2022. Almost a Festival tradition..
    Is it possible to tell the difference, given how much litter the Festival attendees like to scatter? Not to mention the flyposters, and the prats who hand oujt reams of handbills which just get dumped.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253

    Any noun can be verbed.
    Can verbs be nouned?*

    Or would it be acceptable for anyone doing that to be given the lynch? :wink:

    *Note my verbing of 'noun', although of course that's no more out there than verbing 'verb'. Give me shoot.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    GPs now threatening to go on strike.

    Looks like Reeves will have to discover another big black hole.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,660
    edited August 2024
    eek said:

    I quite like zero points on my driving licence and with it cheap car insurance.

    I think there was a period when I was on nine points for four years.

    One SP whatever would fall off and I’d get a new one.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370
    Selebian said:

    Can verbs be nouned?*

    Or would it be acceptable for anyone doing that to be given the lynch? :wink:

    *Note my verbing of 'noun', although of course that's no more out there than verbing 'verb'. Give me shoot.
    Of course, when someone is described as "a fat f**k", that is an example of the nounisation of a verb.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    Sandpit said:

    Didn’t Tommy Robinson leave the country to avoid going to court? There was also a story of some model woman doing exactly the same. How not to endear yourself to the judge.
    Tommy Robinson didn't need to be in court on Monday - it was optional.

    He does need to be in court in October at which point an arrest warrant would be issued if he doesn't turn up.

    Took a fair bit of digging to find out what was actually going on given how biased the reporting has been.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,326
    edited August 2024
    Carnyx said:

    Is it possible to tell the difference, given how much litter the Festival attendees like to scatter? Not to mention the flyposters, and the prats who hand oujt reams of handbills which just get dumped.
    Possibly, though I guess it’s the poor residents with back courts full of rotting rubbish that will bear the brunt.
    I’m sure the media will be holding SLab-led (with sotto voce support from Unionist parties) Edinburgh Council to account, lots of photos of John Swinney pointing at piles of bulging bin bags and scampering rats. Or perhaps not.
  • viewcode said:

    Perhaps if there was a set of reliable high-speed train links in the region that would have helped? 😎
    Using trains on a Friday afternoon/rush hour is a bit like sex with an ex.

    Fun for the first ten minutes then filled with immense regret thereafter as you question your judgment.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    edited August 2024
    Selebian said:

    Can verbs be nouned?*

    Or would it be acceptable for anyone doing that to be given the lynch? :wink:

    *Note my verbing of 'noun', although of course that's no more out there than verbing 'verb'. Give me shoot.
    All verbs can be nouned.
    But some take new forms in so doing - contrast believe/belief with thought/thought, for example. Or indeed doing/doing...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    eek said:

    Tommy Robinson didn't need to be in court on Monday - it was optional.

    He does need to be in court in October at which point an arrest warrant would be issued if he doesn't turn up.

    Took a fair bit of digging to find out what was actually going on given how biased the reporting has been.
    Ah fair enough, thanks.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,370
    Sandpit said:

    Ha, you’re turning into an old footballer getting one of those in the UK!

    The new G is actually very nice to drive, much more of a car than the terrible-handling-but-cool-looking truck that was the previous model. Very popular in my neck of the woods.

    That said, the GLS is a better vehicle in almost every way.
    It's a shame that it's (a) staggeringly ugly, and (b) usually driven by people I wouldn't want to hang out with.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    Great spot; I hadn't really noticed that before.

    You can always tell when he loses his train of thought because he starts playing his invisible accordion
    https://x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1818779108576575775
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,326
    Selebian said:

    Can verbs be nouned?*

    Or would it be acceptable for anyone doing that to be given the lynch? :wink:

    *Note my verbing of 'noun', although of course that's no more out there than verbing 'verb'. Give me shoot.
    Adjective and verb can be adjectived but not noun afaict.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    eek said:

    Utterly off topic but an interesting insight into the social pressure of decision making

    https://x.com/ehdecker/status/1818784959504797962

    I once asked my daughter why she always ordered pizzas for her friends from Domino's even though other options were available. 'Because if they don't like their Domino's pizza, they blame Domino's. If they don't like their Papa Johns pizza, they blame me for not choosing Domino's.

    A trivial anecdote perhaps, except that, at scale, such 'accountability sinks' explains the outsize popularity of the big four consulting firms, the Horizon scandal, the overweening influence of HR, procurement and finance departments, the appalling decline in customer service and much more besides.

    "No one ever got fired for buying IBM"? :wink:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Proof that the Telegraph is slowly morphing into the Guardian:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/activity-and-adventure/uk-best-wild-swimming-spots/
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,561

    Using trains on a Friday afternoon/rush hour is a bit like sex with an ex.

    Fun for the first ten minutes then filled with immense regret thereafter as you question your judgment.
    Bit like driving North in Essex on the A12 on a Friday night in summer. Road filled with Londoners heading for their Suffolk coastal cottages.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited August 2024
    eek said:

    Utterly off topic but an interesting insight into the social pressure of decision making

    https://x.com/ehdecker/status/1818784959504797962

    I once asked my daughter why she always ordered pizzas for her friends from Domino's even though other options were available. 'Because if they don't like their Domino's pizza, they blame Domino's. If they don't like their Papa Johns pizza, they blame me for not choosing Domino's.

    A trivial anecdote perhaps, except that, at scale, such 'accountability sinks' explains the outsize popularity of the big four consulting firms, the Horizon scandal, the overweening influence of HR, procurement and finance departments, the appalling decline in customer service and much more besides.

    “No-one ever got fired for buying IBM”.

    Edit: damn you @Selebian beat me to it!
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    Nigelb said:

    Great spot; I hadn't really noticed that before.

    You can always tell when he loses his train of thought because he starts playing his invisible accordion
    https://x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1818779108576575775

    I now need one of these videos setting to some appropriate music :lol:
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 938

    UK SUVs are cars. They are not American

    Look at the Nissan Qashqai or the Kia Sportage, they are popular UK SUVs and they have all the safety features of modern cars, including modern, safer bonnets.

    Contrast with the Ford F150 which to the best of my knowledge is not sold in this country.
    Softer but higher bonnets.
    Personal example, a 3 series edged out in front of me when I was on my bike, slammed the brakes on but came to a stop against the bumper having reprofiled his bonnet with the left drop. Completely oblivious to my having hit him and being in front of his car, he set off, thankfully I separated from the bike and ended up on the bonnet, the bike ended up underneath. All witnessed by the off-duty PC in a car behind me luckily.
    Even if it was a Qashqai I'd have gone under the car and been run over.
    Normal car, unharmed, SUV likely serious injuries. Stopping distance irrelevant as the car was initially stationary, all down to driver incompetence only mitigated by my being above rather than level with the bonnet.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,100
    We need to talk about the Olympic shooting...

    Korea sent a Cyborg

    https://x.com/ruemcclammyhand/status/1817722222330757346

    Turkey sent a hitman

    https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1818740223511048552
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,254

    GPs now threatening to go on strike.

    Looks like Reeves will have to discover another big black hole.

    Under the previous approach doctors I know were being offered 3k for a single shift. Paying them a bit more salary and reducing the absurd rates we have to regularly pay for emergency cover is going to to work out fine.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    Nigelb said:

    All verbs can be nouned.
    But some take new forms in so doing - contrast believe/belief with thought/thought, for example. Or indeed doing/doing...
    My favourites in UK English are the ones that switch spelling in a US-kind of way, e.g. licence/license
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    Sandpit said:

    “No-one ever got fired for buying IBM”.

    Edit: damn you @Selebian beat me to it!
    Yep - it's not at all new but the social bit is an anecdote. Twin A orders pizza from Domino even though other places are better locally...
  • eek said:

    Tommy Robinson didn't need to be in court on Monday - it was optional.

    He does need to be in court in October at which point an arrest warrant would be issued if he doesn't turn up.

    Took a fair bit of digging to find out what was actually going on given how biased the reporting has been.
    Shame - I had hoped in addition to fleeing the country he was going to end up claiming asylum somewhere too.

    As an aside - on the riots point I am a great believer in a good bit of rain to stop the plonkers. I was in Bradford during 2001 riots and distinctly remember it ratting it down on the night the riots petered out. It also rained on the Wednesday of the London 2011 riots - I was having a nice pint on Lambs Conduit Street watching the “Hedlu” vans getting ready for a busy night in the big city. But rain stopped play.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    rcs1000 said:

    It's a shame that it's (a) staggeringly ugly, and (b) usually driven by people I wouldn't want to hang out with.
    You mean you don’t hang out with rappers, drug dealers, and footballers?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    Yet another Rachel U Turn

    Not so keen on filling pot holes.

    Maybe the BMA told her they want the money instead
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,302
    Nigelb said:

    Great spot; I hadn't really noticed that before.

    You can always tell when he loses his train of thought because he starts playing his invisible accordion
    https://x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1818779108576575775

    An embarrassing confession. I unfortunately have a mannerism very similar to this. I try very very hard to repress it as it’s not ideal to invite comparisons with DJT.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    edited August 2024

    Under the previous approach doctors I know were being offered 3k for a single shift. Paying them a bit more salary and reducing the absurd rates we have to regularly pay for emergency cover is going to to work out fine.
    LOL what planet are you on. They will pocket the money and still charge massive shift Premiums. There will be no savings.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,263
    edited August 2024
    Selebian said:

    I now need one of these videos setting to some appropriate music :lol:
    Perhaps this will inspire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7icMfsMjAk&t=15s
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,536
    Scott_xP said:

    We need to talk about the Olympic shooting...

    Korea sent a Cyborg

    https://x.com/ruemcclammyhand/status/1817722222330757346

    Turkey sent a hitman

    https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1818740223511048552

    Didn't @Dura_Ace have a scary encounter with a shooter in Turkey?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,517

    An embarrassing confession. I unfortunately have a mannerism very similar to this. I try very very hard to repress it as it’s not ideal to invite comparisons with DJT.
    To be pedantic I think she means a concertina.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,263
    Scott_xP said:

    We need to talk about the Olympic shooting...
    Turkey sent a hitman

    https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1818740223511048552

    "Tell Yusuf that Hasan wants the money by Friday"

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    Great to see Donald Trump being exposed for what he is. It's particularly telling how holding him to account with the truth is "rude".
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,254

    LOL what planet are you on. They will pocket the money and still charge massive shift Premiums. There will be no savings.
    Its all been working so well.....just amazed the previous lot didn't get re-elected.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,536
    edited August 2024
    Also, why are the IOC letting men fight women in the boxing?

    https://x.com/seaningle/status/1818957878033621174

    Sean Ingle
    @seaningle
    The Italian Angela Carini is crying her eyes out in the ring.

    She decides not to continue after being hit hard twice by the Algerian Imane Khelif. Fight lasted 46 seconds. First punched knocked her chin strap off and she was holding her nose.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    eek said:

    Yep - it's not at all new but the social bit is an anecdote. Twin A orders pizza from Domino even though other places are better locally...
    Yeah. Socially the organiser will often go for the option that means no one will have a go at them, rather than the untried (by some in the group) possibly better option. See it all the time. Do it myself, probably (although many years ago I was one of the people running a postgrad curry club and we made a point of trying new places, some were meh, some were great, but everyone was signed up to that idea).
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732

    LOL what planet are you on. They will pocket the money and still charge massive shift Premiums. There will be no savings.
    Um the massive shift premiums come from the locum doctors. Pay a bit more and a lot of those locum doctors will take more permanent work

    There are however a whole set of issues with GPs at the moment including some incentives that have resulted in some trained GPs being unable to find jobs. That really does need to be fixed first..
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    Selebian said:

    My favourites in UK English are the ones that switch spelling in a US-kind of way, e.g. licence/license
    I hate that one.
    It has me looking over my shoulder for @Luckyguy1983 .
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    eek said:

    Um the massive shift premiums come from the locum doctors. Pay a bit more and a lot of those locum doctors will take more permanent work

    There are however a whole set of issues with GPs at the moment including some incentives that have resulted in some trained GPs being unable to find jobs. That really does need to be fixed first..
    No they will still use the locums. Dont be naive, the NHS is a huge sludge of inefficiency.

    Wes Streeting is in hock to these people and if he has any ideas for reform theyre dead in the water. Shame.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    tlg86 said:

    Also, why are the IOC letting men fight women in the boxing?

    https://x.com/seaningle/status/1818957878033621174

    Sean Ingle
    @seaningle
    The Italian Angela Carini is crying her eyes out in the ring.

    She decides not to continue after being hit hard twice by the Algerian Imane Khelif. Fight lasted 46 seconds. First punched knocked her chin strap off and she was holding her nose.

    The most interesting thing about the boxing at this Olympics is that there is no boxing in 2028 unless a boxing organisation that the Olympics can approve gets a critical mass of membership. And watching the fights this week I'm seeing zero reason for it to continue in subsequent Olympics.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,588
    Scott_xP said:

    We need to talk about the Olympic shooting...

    Korea sent a Cyborg

    https://x.com/ruemcclammyhand/status/1817722222330757346

    Turkey sent a hitman

    https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1818740223511048552

    Should have gone to Specsavers ... oh ... he did.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,394
    .

    Shame - I had hoped in addition to fleeing the country he was going to end up claiming asylum somewhere too.

    As an aside - on the riots point I am a great believer in a good bit of rain to stop the plonkers. I was in Bradford during 2001 riots and distinctly remember it ratting it down on the night the riots petered out. It also rained on the Wednesday of the London 2011 riots - I was having a nice pint on Lambs Conduit Street watching the “Hedlu” vans getting ready for a busy night in the big city. But rain stopped play.
    This probably calls for more research on cloud seeding.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,012

    The question is do the disaster grifters (Farage, Tate, Robinson etc) have an eye on the thermometer when they churn out their ‘only asking questions’ bullshit.
    A further question: What is Matt Goodwin's destination, and is it a good place. He is keeping interesting company, his lists are getting longer, and solutions getting further away. He is blissfully unaware that we have just had an election in which the moderate centre came first:

    https://www.mattgoodwin.org/p/what-did-you-expect-britains-protests?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=1mnpci&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,253
    Nigelb said:

    They probably did if their job was to order pizza.
    Well... https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/YLNZM1AR
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689

    To be pedantic I think she means a concertina.
    Just don't say squeeze box.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    eek said:

    Utterly off topic but an interesting insight into the social pressure of decision making

    https://x.com/ehdecker/status/1818784959504797962

    I once asked my daughter why she always ordered pizzas for her friends from Domino's even though other options were available. 'Because if they don't like their Domino's pizza, they blame Domino's. If they don't like their Papa Johns pizza, they blame me for not choosing Domino's.

    A trivial anecdote perhaps, except that, at scale, such 'accountability sinks' explains the outsize popularity of the big four consulting firms, the Horizon scandal, the overweening influence of HR, procurement and finance departments, the appalling decline in customer service and much more besides.

    It's perhaps indicative of the comedy that the most prominent challenger to the orthodoxy of outsourcing everything is often stated to be mental.

    If you do something every fucking day, it's part of your core business.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,561
    eek said:

    The most interesting thing about the boxing at this Olympics is that there is no boxing in 2028 unless a boxing organisation that the Olympics can approve gets a critical mass of membership. And watching the fights this week I'm seeing zero reason for it to continue in subsequent Olympics.
    I've got to say good; I'm not a fan of boxing in general and women's in particular. I still recall the regular bouts in the school gym seventy or so years ago and how one couldn't concentrate in the next lesson.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,192
    edited August 2024
    Re: Olympics & Rowing

    The women's quad and women's four were especially good - both crews displayed enormous drive and tenacity.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Scott_xP said:

    We need to talk about the Olympic shooting...

    Korea sent a Cyborg

    https://x.com/ruemcclammyhand/status/1817722222330757346

    Turkey sent a hitman

    https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1818740223511048552

    That Turkish guy looked properly scary. He could just be walking round Istanbul with a handgun in his jogging bottoms, ready to take out his target at a moment’s notice with the precision of a sniper. How can he look so relaxed at such a high level competition, when everyone else turned up looking more like the Korean ‘Cyborg’ with various shooting aids?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,689
    Sometimes the simple headlines are the best ones.

    White Man Tells Black Journalists His Black Opponent Is Not Black
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/trump-nabj-racist-harris-interview/
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,222
    edited August 2024
    Turkish shooter beat both opponents individually, he was the best shooter in the final even though he won silver.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,785
    eek said:

    Um the massive shift premiums come from the locum doctors. Pay a bit more and a lot of those locum doctors will take more permanent work

    There are however a whole set of issues with GPs at the moment including some incentives that have resulted in some trained GPs being unable to find jobs. That really does need to be fixed first..
    News for you: most locum doctors are locum doctors because they like the flexibility. Not many GPs are out of work, and if they are they aren't trying very hard. Please don't fall for the BMA propaganda. The UK medical profession is the most entitled and featherbedded profession in the world
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,746

    I've got to say good; I'm not a fan of boxing in general and women's in particular. I still recall the regular bouts in the school gym seventy or so years ago and how one couldn't concentrate in the next lesson.
    I don’t think I could have concentrated as a teenager after watching women’s boxing in my school gym either. Remarkably liberal your alma mater, particularly for the 50s.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,588
    Selebian said:

    My favourites in UK English are the ones that switch spelling in a US-kind of way, e.g. licence/license
    My favo(u)rite US verb-noun is Burgle>Burglar>Burglarize, presumably leading to Burglarizer sooner or later.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817

    GPs now threatening to go on strike.

    Looks like Reeves will have to discover another big black hole.

    Giving out a 22% pay increase was never going to go unnoticed by the rest of the public sector. Expect a lot of strikes over the next year and 10%+ pay settlements becoming the norm. The private sector is going to be hollowed out over the next 5 years until our economy looks like France.
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